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May 21, 2020, 04:30:58 PM
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hi i want to do a game that people play against each other by btc the question is it call gambling ? Should i have a gambling licese to run this kind of games? Im planning to do 1vs1 games for mbtc.. thanks for the help
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May 21, 2020, 05:14:31 PM
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You need a license to run your business casino not the games,.

What u need for the games is provably fair, went the result comes out was really fair from the game without manipulation from the casino itself and every user who playing on your casino can check the fairness by themself.

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May 21, 2020, 05:27:50 PM
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Reply above of mine was right, you need first a license of your casino gambling to avoid problems in the future.

Maybe you are referring to P2P gambling and I think you must need this previous discussion.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239902.0

You need to specify what game you want to run by your P2P gambling platform.

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May 21, 2020, 05:55:10 PM
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Hmm I'm planning to develop few games such as backgammon let's say player1 put 0.01mbtc and player2 do the same and they play against each other.. You think it's necessary to have gambling license ?
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May 21, 2020, 06:13:45 PM
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hi i want to do a game that people play against each other by btc the question is it call gambling ?
Yes. As long as there is money at stake, that's gambling.

Hmm I'm planning to develop few games such as backgammon let's say player1 put 0.01mbtc and player2 do the same and they play against each other.
That player vs. player game is a good idea and if it's backgammon, I think it's something. But most of the games that I've seen making this kind of pvp games except poker, they don't get much attention.

You think it's necessary to have gambling license ?
You've been answered by ryzaadit about licensure.
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May 21, 2020, 06:46:41 PM
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Hmm I'm planning to develop few games such as backgammon let's say player1 put 0.01mbtc and player2 do the same and they play against each other.. You think it's necessary to have gambling license ?
Yes absolutely, A license also adds integrity to a gambling site and a big plus on the trust you will give to the gamblers. Most of the online casino nowadays has their gambling license and without having, it might have a chance that gamblers might not have interest in playing on your casino.

Btw, P2P games are the ones I'm very interested in. I don't have any idea how backgammon works but I can learn it when your future casino is launched. Of course I will play on a promotion period.
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May 21, 2020, 07:13:57 PM
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That player vs. player game is a good idea and if it's backgammon, I think it's something. But most of the games that I've seen making this kind of pvp games except poker, they don't get much attention.

This is true where most pvp game sites nowadays doesnt really get that much of attention which causes for them to fail. Lots have tried but do end up the same thing but lets see on how backgammon will pull some interest but op shouldnt hope that much.
In talks of licensure then it will vary on countries jurisdiction because we  know that there are known or famous sites now doesnt even have a license but talking about reputation and security then having one would give  positive impressions.

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May 21, 2020, 07:14:07 PM
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hi i want to do a game that people play against each other by btc the question is it call gambling ? Should i have a gambling licese to run this kind of games? Im planning to do 1vs1 games for mbtc.. thanks for the help
Gambling and games are different, so if you are going to develop a game with multiplayer options then it is compared as league or tournament which doesn't need gambling license.
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May 21, 2020, 09:04:40 PM
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If it's a game where people can gamble with each other using a game currency it might not require licenses. Many games have skins and items that people gamble with and it's a kind of hidden gambling.

If you want people to wager cryptocurrency you will have to check your local laws. Many casinos opperate without licenses. It depends on the country where you register.
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Must be p2p. I have played a p2p and its an uphill battle to get some users to play the game. I have tried the binary options which is basically a p2p platform and it looks like there is not much players to see there. Players are just use to seeing they'd bet against the house when there is no one around.


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May 22, 2020, 12:51:33 AM
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Is it possible to expand your OP to include some of the answers provided to explain what you want to do?  If you are playing a game with another person and you have an informal wager on the outcome then that is a wager, but if you provide a gaming platform (ie a series of games) where players place wagers on the outcome (be it dice, roulette, cards etc), then that is a Casino and you would definitely need to seek legal advice on your jurisdiction's registration requirements (regardless of where a Casino was hosted).

Reading through some of the replies concerning registration you could probably get away with being unregistered while you develop the back of house systems and were not accepting bets except in a BETA play mode, but again get legal advice before getting too far down the track.

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May 22, 2020, 01:48:06 AM
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Hmm I'm planning to develop few games such as backgammon let's say player1 put 0.01mbtc and player2 do the same and they play against each other.. You think it's necessary to have gambling license ?
If it's a format like this then you definitely need a gambling casino license. Still there are a lot of questions still to be asked and based on that you can change its format to not need the gambling license. A simple example would be changing it into a tournament type of format where there's a type of registration fee and the top 3 winners would receive a certain amount of that price pool or you can set the price all on your own, simple as that. Another simple format would be kind of like those in the arcades where you exchange reward tickets for prizes. This is considering you'd expand your current list of games and not just backgammon, but anything else than that that involves putting out money is probably in the lines of gambling. Ask for some advice from those that are experienced tbh, or just in Reddit.

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May 22, 2020, 09:44:58 AM
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You mean play against each other "for or with" btc (instead of by btc?)

It's betting (or what we erroneously call gambling), If you mean a game people compete with each other for prices/rewards/profits, especially for rewards staked by the parties involved.
You will probably need a license if it's for profit purposes. I guess there are countries you won't be bothered with license if it's a small business
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That player vs. player game is a good idea and if it's backgammon, I think it's something. But most of the games that I've seen making this kind of pvp games except poker, they don't get much attention.

This is true where most pvp game sites nowadays doesnt really get that much of attention which causes for them to fail. Lots have tried but do end up the same thing but lets see on how backgammon will pull some interest but op shouldnt hope that much.
In talks of licensure then it will vary on countries jurisdiction because we  know that there are known or famous sites now doesnt even have a license but talking about reputation and security then having one would give  positive impressions.
I have seen some casinos that did this but it's not really clicking. The gamblers that we have right now don't look to this kind of setup anymore. I think if it will be chess or any common game that's very common, it can click.

You mean play against each other "for or with" btc (instead of by btc?)
In my understanding, both prepositions were what he meant to say.
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hi i want to do a game that people play against each other by btc the question is it call gambling ? Should i have a gambling licese to run this kind of games? Im planning to do 1vs1 games for mbtc.. thanks for the help

Legitimately, you need to have licensed to operate.

In that way, gamblers will see you as worth putting a risk that might lead them to test our site. That's already one step to success if you handle things properly along the way.

But before anything else, what kind of game are you trying to implement?

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May 23, 2020, 08:25:23 PM
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hi i want to do a game that people play against each other by btc the question is it call gambling ? Should i have a gambling licese to run this kind of games? Im planning to do 1vs1 games for mbtc.. thanks for the help
Hmm I'm planning to develop few games such as backgammon let's say player1 put 0.01mbtc and player2 do the same and they play against each other.. You think it's necessary to have gambling license ?
I think you definitely need a license for what you are planning on doing, however the laws can be very different among countries so your best bet is to find a lawyer and discus what you want to do and listen very closely to the response you get, now if you are only planning on implementing those kind of p2p games then you may not need a lot of capital to launch your platform but if you are planning to include more traditional games like dice, slots, or roulette then you will need a huge amount of capital to form your bankroll and unless you already have that capital then it will be difficult to raise that capital with the economy being in such a bad shape.

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May 24, 2020, 07:57:25 AM
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You mean play against each other "for or with" btc (instead of by btc?)

As of my understanding on OP, he is going to create a game where the BTC will come from both parties. Literally, gambling 1vs1. And not the platform having the pool of BTC to win.


It's betting (or what we erroneously call gambling), If you mean a game people compete with each other for prices/rewards/profits, especially for rewards staked by the parties involved.
You will probably need a license if it's for profit purposes. I guess there are countries you won't be bothered with license if it's a small business

Even if the country doesn't really requires a specific license to run the business, it is better for you to play safe and get the license first before you operate it. Or to be sure, you might hire a lawyer who knows how to run this kind of business. Most of the time, processing of the license usually takes 3-6 months.

In our country Philippines, Online gambling license supports the following according to this article:

Casino, eSports, Poker, Sports Betting, Lotto, Bingo, Horseracing, Bitcoin Casino, Fantasy Sports, Games of Skills.

With bitcoin casino included, I'm pretty sure you might really need a license.
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May 24, 2020, 08:14:07 AM
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Sounds like peer to peer betting platform. Although I am not expert but I believe you should be perfect from your ends when you are going to play with money. At least from your country you should have proper documents to run peer to peer betting site. You should hire a legal advisor from your country where you are going to run platform. So he will advise you what is the required documents. But if you want to run without documets or licence then up to you, and not sure how long will you able to continue. It's like exchange, some exchange have license and proper documents, and some exchange have nothing.

But if you wondering to build decentralized betting platform then licence isn't much important IMO. I am not sure based on what you are going to build peer to peer betting platforms. If you are wondering about centralized peer to peer betting platforms then you have to ensure transparency and likely you should start with minimum documets to avoid government issues.

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May 24, 2020, 09:04:56 AM
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It is called gambling since players are risking their btc to earn more btc. This kind of gambling is called PVP since it's player against player instead of the house. There are other sites like this where their game is PVP and non-PVP games. You need license to create your own gambling platform and also keep the security tight.
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May 24, 2020, 09:06:37 AM
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hi i want to do a game that people play against each other by btc the question is it call gambling ? Should i have a gambling licese to run this kind of games? Im planning to do 1vs1 games for mbtc.. thanks for the help

I am not sure but if this game is relied on luck then it is called gambling and you should have a license.
The most games that are considered gambling have to do with cards, numbers, etc.
If the game is relied on skill then you don't need license.
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