Automated Merits for 100 Activities /Topics

[SUMBI99]

I was thinking About probability In every possible earning on Bitcoin which lead me to see the other side based on the Bitcoin forum, Many People ask differently on merit way up But I think they forgot. The probability Aspect which I wish to share with you today, I don't think if One with 100 activities or 100 Topics  all of them will be wrong or shit topics and comments definitely  it's not true  maybe someone with proof will prove me wrong

 My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with  100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

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[suchmoon]

I don't think if One with 100 activities or 100 Topics  all of them will be wrong or shit topics and comments

If you start giving merits for merely posting 100 times - yes, there will be many many spammers with 100+ all-shit topics.

This has been discussed many times before and the answer is still no. There will be no "automatic" merits as that's too prone to abuse.

[tranthidung]

Allowing automatic merits based on activities will allow spammers automatically rank up over time. It will only slow down their rank-up progresses. Whenever they reach the ranks they think enough, they will become more actively spam.

100 bounty report ~ 1 merit. Nope, it should never be like that.
Then 1000 bounty report ~ 10 merits ~ Member rank ? Nope.

[Kemarit]

LOL, this topic really shows the the merit system is working. Shit posters still trying to find ways to circumvent the system. Obviously the answer is a big fat NO. And please lock this thread for good.

[Timelord2067]

I like the idea in principle - the shit posters might spew forth with bile and what not, but overall it sounds like a great idea.  Even if it's not merits then a badge or similar for 10, 50, 100 etc topics started.  Things like that - recognition for work achieved.

[ChuckBuck]

NOOOOOOO!!!!!
It is the worst idea I have seen so far on merit   In the past, when the merit system was not available, users needed to post at least 14 posts every 2 weeks to increase the activity score (1 or 2 weeks, I'm not sure), meaning that it would generate a minimum of 14 spam posts per spammer.
We all know how the merit system works and how important merit is. And now you recommend 1 merit for every 100 posts and no matter what they post. Meaning it will create 100 spam posts to earn one merit. And there are thousands of people like that. This forum will be filled by shit again  
Please ignore this idea, it's not good  

[rhomelmabini]

I think it's a bad idea and it will negate the idea of the merit system and people will be lazy waiting for the desired activity needed to get merit. If just solely create a topic for over a 100 or even below that one, that will just create an uproar of spam topics, moreover a redundancy of topics. If ever it will be based on the constructiveness of topics, the moderators will surely get a hefty work to do in order to give whoever has done it.

[DdmrDdmr]

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If someone can’t get merited after opening 100 topics, then what is the point of rewarding them by meriting them? Any automatic reward for x100 whatever, only leads to x100 spam to get that reward (so as to say). The Merit System has it flaws, as subjectivity unavoidably leads to, buy automating rewards on sheer numbers, and not on content, is clearly far worse (even if it a complementary feature, which would play contra natura).

[Shimmiry]

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with  100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

As what most users have said: having an "automated" merits is just a single step to a non-sense idea why merits do exists. Merits was made so that spammers and shitposters would remain on their rank by the time their posts was proven so. You've just joined the forum recently yet we all wished that you read threads first because you just made a cliche and redundant topic.

All you can do is to simply share helpful and useful ideas to a certain post or topic, participate in merit giveaways, or make something other user's would find amusing (such as programs and stuffs).

[hilariousetc]

This utterly defeats the purpose of merit.

the quality of being particularly good or worthy, especially so as to deserve praise or reward.

Merit is for quality not quantity.

I like the idea in principle - the shit posters might spew forth with bile and what not, but overall it sounds like a great idea.  Even if it's not merits then a badge or similar for 10, 50, 100 etc topics started.  Things like that - recognition for work achieved.

Seriously? This is one of the worst suggestions I've heard. We might as well get rid of merit if we adopted this as it would make spam worse exponentially. All users would do is create hundreds of shit threads just to get their automatic merit or badge, which is meaningless.

[Timelord2067]

Seriously? This is one of the worst suggestions I've heard. We might as well get rid of merit if we adopted this as it would make spam worse exponentially. All users would do is create hundreds of shit threads just to get their automatic merit or badge, which i meaningless.

Dude - take a chill pill.

Suggestions are meant to be discussed, flashed out and accepted, or found to be unworkable, not ridiculed by those who should know better.

Oh, and no merits for your spelling mistake either. 

[NotATether]

Eh, the merit system is fine as it is. Genuinely helpful newbies who aren't bitcoin experts gravitate towards places like general discussion and beginners and help, and get their merits from there.

On the other hand, people who are seasoned in bitcoin go to boards like development and technical discussion, mining board and technical support where there happens to be less merit circulation because of the fewer readers on that board. But that's mostly compensated by the airdropped merit in 2018 and the reasoning that most such profiles who joined since then have no interest in ranking up.

[bullrun2024bro]

My suggestion is to have at least An Automated Merits for every 100 activities if that not persuasive let's be for every 100 Topics from one individual with  100 Individuals Contribution no matter what they on their comments this is only to acknowledge that Topics attracts more people.

Jesus Christ, no thank you. Why should the forum help to rank up shitposters and bounty spammers? What's next? 50 free Merits for every 10 posts in Meta asking for Merits? 

If you would stop talking about earning Merits and would just focus on delivering informative, high-quality content then you would easily gather some. If you don't know what I am talking about, just take the suggestion TMAN made a few month ago:

You need to go to the yobit forum now, cryptotalk they pay you for every post man. You can just use google translate or spam the keyboard, best forum now, this forum is ded

[amishmanish]

Actually the idea isn't all that bad if the implementation had been possible. It'd probably become an interested ML project. You take the sample of first 100 posts of say 100 of the normal users on the forum who deserve to rank up. You'd need to prepare text analysis based model defining what "Good posting history" looks like. Compare that with the posts of new posters with the requisite activity and then drop them the requisite merit. It would be a lot of work as well as a project worthy of a thesis.

The current system however seems to be working fine. If a newbie posts non-nonsense posts and gets actually involved in the forum, you know, exploring trading options, wallet options, the raffles, collectibles, history etc, sooner or later they emerge out of the woods into the garden of merit heaven. Diversification and making actual connections is the key. P2P works.

[Little Mouse]

Nowadays, rank is something "if you deserve, grab it." but back in the day, it was only posts which would help ypu rank up and later it comes to activity.
If someone gets merit for certain activity, that will bring the same activity.
You need X amount of activity to reach Sr Member.
You need X amount of activity of activity to reach Sr Member.
Why merit should then be existed even?

[LoyceMobile]

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

[Timelord2067]

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

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(it could happen) 

[Bttzed03]

I agree with @tranthidung. Bounty reports shouldn't be rewarded in any way. It shouldn't even form part of forum activity.

If I were you, I'd ignore discussions on merits and bounties. Focus on reading/learning technicalities of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology instead. If you do that, there's a good chance your posting will improve and you will probably have less difficulty earning merits (more merits with just 10 topics than creating 100 for example). Just a suggestion...

[ChuckBuck]

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

Well, sounds good  But 100 topics or 100 posts? 100 topics seems to be a number that I and many others rarely achieve  Not to mention those who open topics regularly about accusations or reputation, regular users seem to never open their own topics. I only create 2 or 3 topics per month for myself  So 100 topics is really something far-fetched, but I support it, if someone don't even get one merit after having 100 threads on this forum, he should not continue here 

[plast555]

How about an automated ban if you create 100 topics without getting a single Merit?

Well, sounds good  But 100 topics or 100 posts? 100 topics seems to be a number that I and many others rarely achieve  Not to mention those who open topics regularly about accusations or reputation, regular users seem to never open their own topics. I only create 2 or 3 topics per month for myself  So 100 topics is really something far-fetched, but I support it, if someone don't even get one merit after having 100 threads on this forum, he should not continue here 

I could understand that many of them not getting merits but automating it will totally oppose the purpose of merit. Why do you need Merit? if everyone has this automated merit how will you differentiate the quality among it? Anyone can easily automate to make spam posts without even his personal attention so it will not be helpful in anyway