Riots after Death of Man in Minneapolis Police Custody

[Spendulus]

...I actually suspect the intention of tearing down historical statues is going to lead to eventually (not long from now) rewriting history.

The attempt to do this is happening now, for example with the 1619 Project.

These are the same people that were pushing Hillary Clinton, that were pushing for Russia Collusion, for impeachment of Trump, and all the other lies and deceits that we've been putting up with.

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[KingScorpio]

So Asians (a race) are not systematically discriminated against in college admissions?

Yes, they are and so are White people.  Education plays a major roll in systemic racism.  Black and Hispanic young adults go to college at a much lower rate than Whites and Asians, accepting more Black and Hispanic students has a long term affect on systemic racism.  Someone with a college education is less likely to live in poverty, commit crime, etc.  And the same goes for their children, grandchildren etc.

You asked me a direct question and I answered it.  Will you answer mine please?

Why do you think there's such a disparity between black and white people with regards to poverty, health and crime?

Anyone that thinks life is fair or can be made fair is a fucking idiot. Now let's start figuring out how to fix the systematic racism against asians at places like Harvard and Yale. Want a hint? It's not by rioting and violence.

life is not fair, and it is not even supposed to be fair.
if you think that egalitarianism is gods goal you are wrong, its not even good and it wont even last.

good and evil are idiotic comparisions.

[Gyfts]

This twitter thread is gold if you take a look at the exchange: https://twitter.com/jk3rd_/status/1274575912202317824

One of the former police officers involved in George Floyd's death was grocery shopping after he was released on bail until he got confronted by some deranged white lady who confronted him and started berating the guy while he just stood there. The former officer, J Alexander Kueng, told the lady he was buying necessaries as he holds Oreo cookies and milk in his hands lmfao.

The guy in the video conducted himself pretty well, good on him. He was a rookie on the job and his charges won't hold up. Apparently people are mad that people they don't like made bail because apparently certain rights and civil liberties can only apply to some, and not all.

[TwitchySeal]

There is a major difference between tearing down a statue of someone who is currently imposing tyranny (or was just forcibly stopped from continuing doing so) upon a group of people, and a statute of a historical figure. The former is a sign that the tyrant's reign has stopped, and the former is destroying history. I actually suspect the intention of tearing down historical statues is going to lead to eventually (not long from now) rewriting history.

There's no major difference between tyranny and slavery, both are cruel and oppressive.

Most of the confederate monuments were erected after the civil war and the end of slavery - evidence that although slavery was technically over, white supremacy was still the norm.  Idolizing White Supremacists encourages White Supremacy.  America has been slowly but surely moving away from the idea of White Supremacy and removing all the monuments of people who fought to keep the idea alive is evidence of that.  History is being written, not rewritten.

This twitter thread is gold if you take a look at the exchange: https://twitter.com/jk3rd_/status/1274575912202317824

One of the former police officers involved in George Floyd's death was grocery shopping after he was released on bail until he got confronted by some deranged white lady who confronted him and started berating the guy while he just stood there. The former officer, J Alexander Kueng, told the lady he was buying necessaries as he holds Oreo cookies and milk in his hands lmfao.

The guy in the video conducted himself pretty well, good on him. He was a rookie on the job and his charges won't hold up. Apparently people are mad that people they don't like made bail because apparently certain rights and civil liberties can only apply to some, and not all.

I def feel for that guy.  I think he was a cop for all of two weeks - obviously he was in no position to tell the guy training him how to do his job.  The way he responded makes me think he had the potential to be a decent cop.  That lady recording is an absolute cunt.

[Spendulus]

There is a major difference between tearing down a statue of someone who is currently imposing tyranny (or was just forcibly stopped from continuing doing so) upon a group of people, and a statute of a historical figure. The former is a sign that the tyrant's reign has stopped, and the former is destroying history. I actually suspect the intention of tearing down historical statues is going to lead to eventually (not long from now) rewriting history.

There's no major difference between tyranny and slavery, both are cruel and oppressive.

Most of the confederate monuments were erected after the civil war and the end of slavery - evidence that although slavery was technically over, white supremacy was still the norm.  Idolizing White Supremacists encourages White Supremacy.  America has been slowly but surely moving away from the idea of White Supremacy and removing all the monuments of people who fought to keep the idea alive is evidence of that.  History is being written, not rewritten.

Destruction of publicly owned monuments is a felony, and those who did these actions are criminals.

I'm sure you'd agree we should prosecute, convict, and jail them, for 10-20 years. I'd be good with letting a couple off who admitted and provided proof of their chain of command. Kind of doubt it would lead to American Patriots.

[TECSHARE]

There's no major difference between tyranny and slavery, both are cruel and oppressive.

Most of the confederate monuments were erected after the civil war and the end of slavery - evidence that although slavery was technically over, white supremacy was still the norm.  Idolizing White Supremacists encourages White Supremacy.  America has been slowly but surely moving away from the idea of White Supremacy and removing all the monuments of people who fought to keep the idea alive is evidence of that.  History is being written, not rewritten.

All of this is some great inflation of events to puff up your own egos, and a desperate attempt to give your meaningless lives purpose by trying to convince yourselves the LAARPing you are doing is real. You are tools, and history knows you as "useful idiots".

These monuments were there to remember history, not to idolize it. Those that do not learn history are doomed to repeat it, and that is the point. Before history can be repeated, you must first erase it so that people can forget, so the old playbooks can be dug up and used again.

You aren't fighting for equality, freedom, or justice. You are fighting for slavery, racism, squalor, and pain. Unfortunately by the time you figure that out it will be far too late. Even more unfortunate, you are going to impose this upon other people who had nothing to do with your delusions.

[TwitchySeal]

These monuments were there to remember history, not to idolize it. Those that do not learn history are doomed to repeat it, and that is the point. Before history can be repeated, you must first erase it so that people can forget, so the old playbooks can be dug up and used again.

You're confusing statues with books.

[TECSHARE]

These monuments were there to remember history, not to idolize it. Those that do not learn history are doomed to repeat it, and that is the point. Before history can be repeated, you must first erase it so that people can forget, so the old playbooks can be dug up and used again.

You're confusing statues with books.

I am not confusing anything. They already have the books covered, along with the modern equivalent the internet. In addition to erasing history, this is also about creating fear and intimidation among the general population. It is a message, "See what we can do? Resist us and we are coming for you next." This is terrorist activity.

[coins4commies]

  It's really getting funny how hypocritical the left is... point the finger... point the finger, and everyone looks over there. They pay no attention to what you are doing, just what you point at.
   Implicit racism, institutional racism, systemic racism, this racism, that racism..... they come out with a new type of racism whenever they run out of the last one.

  They keep talking in a circle, but always hit on one point....... poverty.   Now, in the Democrats eyes (yes, this is all political now), the poverty is caused by racism. (Look over there). Whatever type of racism they attribute it to is always disproved, so they'll create a new type of racism next election cycle.  But the poverty is actually caused by Liberal Democrat policies, in Democrat controlled cities, in Democrat controlled states.
    They'll show you propaganda films of black kids being unable to succeed because they couldn't go to a good rich school 2 blocks away because of imaginary lines. But when they'll leave out the part of school funding, and increased funding to poorer schools had ZERO effect. It's proven that throwing money at poverty doesnt work, it just creates dependency, and that's what the Democrats want.
    We see higher crime rates among the poor in every race. The black community fears racism, and when you can control someone's fear, you control them.  Just like their Democratic President LBJ said, they'll keep them voting Democrat for 200 years. The poor communities are being kept poor intentionally. The Democrats give the poor free money, free housing, free food. The poor have literally zero incentive to work, better their lives, or leave their free accommodations. And thats how the Democrats want it.
   And what' the next best voter base they can manipulate?  The young and naive. Shove propaganda down the throats of the young naive kids with feelings via Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and you can make someone born less than two decades ago think they are guilty for something that happened two centuries ago.

  Some of us have been on this earth long enough to see this happen EVERY election cycle. Theres a routine. Theres a pattern.

   But do not fret.... there is a cure for racism. And the Democrats have already found it. It's OPEN BORDERS.  They've already done studies on the Latino vs Black birth rates in the US. The black birth relate is dropping, and the Latino birth rate is rising. Open borders can expedite their plan, and once they feel they can manipulate the larger Latino vote, you will see the switch happen. All of a sudden, you'll see the political battle cry switch from black racism to Latino something. Racism will have been cured.

   Have you not noticed already, the change in the narrative from the last election cycle?   4 years ago, it was just RACISM, RACISM.   That didnt work, so now they want to scream it louder, come up with systemic racism, oh, and this time lets throw in some white supremacy to top it off.   Yes, one talking head in this thread actually called Candice Owes a white supremacist.  

On topic..... George Floyd was a career criminal with a much higher probability of dying while committing crime, than a non-criminal.  

Where was racism disproved? Are you saying that slavery and jim crow were not based on race?  I honestly do not understand what you mean.

[PopoJeff]

  ....whatever type of racism they attribute it to is always disproved, so they'll create a new type of racism next election cycle.  

Where was racism disproved? Are you saying that slavery and jim crow were not based on race?  I honestly do not understand what you mean.

Reading comprehension junior.    You missed about 98% of logical reasoning in my post, and got confused on the other 2%.
   I understand you probably haven't been alive long enough to observe the changes, so I'll spell it out for you again.
   The liberals keep changing the definition of racism, defining it, and theorizing different types of racism. They are manufacturing new types of racism to appeal to your feeling, and it's based on weak "facts" and shaky theories.
   There's a new Democrat talking point every 4 years and the naive do nothing but parrot the buzz words.
The new one for this election cycle to make the rounds is "systemic" racism. And when you watch the propaganda films and facts they use to substantiate their systemic racism, they leave out conflicting facts that easily question the theory as being solid.


   Want to see how bad you are being manipulated?

Go to google, and type in "Is ______ racist"

Fill in the blank with whatever comes to mind. Anything. And look at the results.
A few things that google told me were racist:  masturbation, air, water, dogs, knitting, hair, anal sex, cars....



But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

[TwitchySeal]

But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

Seems like he had a drug problem from 1996-2007.  Got like 3 years for a 4 separate possession of <1g of cocaine charges, a few petty thefts that got him a few weeks, and then in 2007 armed robbery got him 5 years.

He got out in 2011 and had been holding down a steady job for a while until he was laid off in early spring.  My guess is he relapsed.

Did you read the charging documents?  Because it doesn't seem like you did. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12949-TT/ThaoComplaint06032020.pdf

[PopoJeff]

But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

Seems like he had a drug problem from 1996-2007.  Got like 3 years for a 4 separate possession of <1g of cocaine charges, a few petty thefts that got him a few weeks, and then in 2007 armed robbery got him 5 years.

He got out in 2011 and had been holding down a steady job for a while until he was laid off in early spring.  My guess is he relapsed.

Did you read the charging documents?  Because it doesn't seem like you did. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12949-TT/ThaoComplaint06032020.pdf

What does that Affidavit have to do with my comment? 

[TwitchySeal]

But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

Seems like he had a drug problem from 1996-2007.  Got like 3 years for a 4 separate possession of <1g of cocaine charges, a few petty thefts that got him a few weeks, and then in 2007 armed robbery got him 5 years.

He got out in 2011 and had been holding down a steady job for a while until he was laid off in early spring.  My guess is he relapsed.

Did you read the charging documents?  Because it doesn't seem like you did. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12949-TT/ThaoComplaint06032020.pdf

What does that Affidavit have to do with my comment? 

It describes the police interaction...

[Spendulus]

But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

Seems like he had a drug problem from 1996-2007.  Got like 3 years for a 4 separate possession of <1g of cocaine charges, a few petty thefts that got him a few weeks, and then in 2007 armed robbery got him 5 years.

He got out in 2011 and had been holding down a steady job for a while until he was laid off in early spring.  My guess is he relapsed.

Did you read the charging documents?  Because it doesn't seem like you did. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12949-TT/ThaoComplaint06032020.pdf

What does that Affidavit have to do with my comment? 

It describes the police interaction...

Why don't you quote that part you believe is relevant?

[PopoJeff]

But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

Seems like he had a drug problem from 1996-2007.  Got like 3 years for a 4 separate possession of <1g of cocaine charges, a few petty thefts that got him a few weeks, and then in 2007 armed robbery got him 5 years.

He got out in 2011 and had been holding down a steady job for a while until he was laid off in early spring.  My guess is he relapsed.

Did you read the charging documents?  Because it doesn't seem like you did. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12949-TT/ThaoComplaint06032020.pdf

What does that Affidavit have to do with my comment?  

It describes the police interaction...

Go on....

Waiting for the point.

But I think your missing mine or are trying to deflect.

Floyd was unlawfully killed while being arrested. I've never contested that.
But if you look at my comment which you quoted, I said Floyd was a criminal.
What are the odds of a criminal being killed by police vs a non-criminal...... and how do you think those odds exponentially increase with the longer you engage in criminal activity?  I think Floyd demonstrated two decades of criminal behavior, maybe 10 arrests.  Wouldn't he be 10x more likely to have a bad police interaction as someone who only got arrested once?

[TwitchySeal]

But to keep this thread on topic... I'd suggest we talk about how big of a criminal Floyd was, and what that did do increase his odds of having a police interaction not go his way.

Seems like he had a drug problem from 1996-2007.  Got like 3 years for a 4 separate possession of <1g of cocaine charges, a few petty thefts that got him a few weeks, and then in 2007 armed robbery got him 5 years.

He got out in 2011 and had been holding down a steady job for a while until he was laid off in early spring.  My guess is he relapsed.

Did you read the charging documents?  Because it doesn't seem like you did. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12949-TT/ThaoComplaint06032020.pdf

What does that Affidavit have to do with my comment?  

It describes the police interaction...

Go on....

Waiting for the point.

My point is I think you should read the criminal complaint I linked.  It doesn't make the picture perfectly clear, but he was described as calm and polite after being handcuffed.  Then when they went to put him in the car he explicitly said he wasn't resisting, he was claustrophobic, and he couldn't breath - then he stiffened up and just went down.  The rest is clear from the video.

But I think your missing mine or are trying to deflect.

Floyd was unlawfully killed while being arrested. I've never contested that.
But if you look at my comment which you quoted, I said Floyd was a criminal.
What are the odds of a criminal being killed by police vs a non-criminal...... and how do you think those odds exponentially increase with the longer you engage in criminal activity?  I think Floyd demonstrated two decades of criminal behavior, maybe 10 arrests.  Wouldn't he be 10x more likely to have a bad police interaction as someone who only got arrested once?

Pretty sure the last crime he was arrested for happened in 2007.  He'd been out of prison for almost 10 years at the time of his death and steadily employed until he was laid off due to the pandemic a couple weeks earlier.  All signs point to him being a recovering drug addict that relapsed after he lost his job.  


From aged 22-33 he had 9 arrests. (1996-2007)

4 of them for possession or intent to deliver less than 1 gram of cocaine - Sentenced to 36 months in total for them

2 for theft of less than $500
1 for trespassing
1 for failure to identify himself to the police - He got 10 days to a few weeks for each of those.

1 for Robbery with a deadly weapon.  He dressed up like a plumber or something and robbed a woman in her home with some other guys in 2007.  Sentenced to 5 years, paroled out in 2011.

[Gyfts]

My point is I think you should read the criminal complaint I linked.  It doesn't make the picture perfectly clear, but he was described as calm and polite after being handcuffed.  Then when they went to put him in the car he explicitly said he wasn't resisting, he was claustrophobic, and he couldn't breath - then he stiffened up and just went down.  The rest is clear from the video.

Interesting article that I read examining the incident a bit more closely - https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

TL;DR - Floyd was resisting and refusing to get in the police car probably because he was in an excited delirious state (ExDS), not because he was claustrophobic. There were a range of drugs in his system, including a deadly dose of fentanyl (11 ng/mL with average concentration being 10 ng/mL in an overdose). This explains why Floyd was acting so erratic and also why Derek Chauvin, a 19 year vet of the police department with military training and 4 years of military experience would seemingly do something stupid enough to have Floyd in a neck restraint for so long. Apparently it tends to be department policy to have anyone in a delirious state under full restraint until paramedics arrive on scene until they can inject the patient with loads of ketamine to calm them down.

The article also explores a few instances where people experiencing ExDS tend to die regardless of the restraint they're put in due to drugs and underlying conditions playing a role. The prosecution might try to argue that ExDS isn't a recognized condition by the American Medical Association but being in a delirious tends to have the same sorts of physical signs (agitation, aggression, reduced pain sensitivity, ect.)

[TwitchySeal]

My point is I think you should read the criminal complaint I linked.  It doesn't make the picture perfectly clear, but he was described as calm and polite after being handcuffed.  Then when they went to put him in the car he explicitly said he wasn't resisting, he was claustrophobic, and he couldn't breath - then he stiffened up and just went down.  The rest is clear from the video.

Interesting article that I read examining the incident a bit more closely - https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

TL;DR - Floyd was resisting and refusing to get in the police car probably because he was in an excited delirious state (ExDS), not because he was claustrophobic. There were a range of drugs in his system, including a deadly dose of fentanyl (11 ng/mL with average concentration being 10 ng/mL in an overdose). This explains why Floyd was acting so erratic and also why Derek Chauvin, a 19 year vet of the police department with military training and 4 years of military experience would seemingly do something stupid enough to have Floyd in a neck restraint for so long. Apparently it tends to be department policy to have anyone in a delirious state under full restraint until paramedics arrive on scene until they can inject the patient with loads of ketamine to calm them down.

The article also explores a few instances where people experiencing ExDS tend to die regardless of the restraint they're put in due to drugs and underlying conditions playing a role. The prosecution might try to argue that ExDS isn't a recognized condition by the American Medical Association but being in a delirious tends to have the same sorts of physical signs (agitation, aggression, reduced pain sensitivity, ect.)

Is there any footage out there from when he is removed from the car to when he ends up face down on the ground?  I have only seen the cop struggling to get him out and then the 8 or 9 minutes of him on the ground.

The blog you posted makes no mention of the complaint on cop #2, written on 6/3, it only sites the original complaint against cop #1, written on 5/29.  In the 5/29 complaint, Flloyd is made out as more aggressive and less calm than the 6/3 complaint.

5/29:

Once handcuffed, Mr. Floyd became compliant and walked with Officer Lane to the sidewalk and sat on the
ground at Officer Lane’s direction. In a conversation that lasted just under two minutes, Officer Lang asked
Mr. Floyd for his name and identification. Officer Lane asked Mr. Lloyd if he was “on anything” and
explained that he was arresting Mr. Lloyd for passing counterfeit currency.

6/3

Once hand cuffed, Mr. Floyd walked with Lane to the sidewalk and sat on the ground at Lane’s direction.
When Mr. Floyd sat down he said “thank you man” and was calm.  In a conversation that lasted just under
two minutes, Lane asked Mr. Floyd for his name and identification. Lane asked Mr. Lloyd if he was "on
anything" and noted there was foam at the edges of his mouth.  Lane explained that he was arresting Mr.
Floyd for passing counterfeit currency.

5/29:

While Officer Kueng was speaking with the front seat passenger, Officer Lane ordered Mr. Floyd out of the
car, put his hands on Mr. Floyd, and pulled him out of the car. Officer Lane handcuffed Mr. Floyd. Mr. Floyd
actively resisted being handcuffed.

6/3

While Officer Kueng was speaking with the front seat passenger, Lane ordered Mr. Floyd out of the car, put
his hands on Mr. Floyd, and pulled him out of the car. Lane handcuffed Mr. Floyd.

5/29

Officers Kueng and Lane stood Mr. Floyd up and attempted to walk Mr. Floyd to their squad car (MPD 320)
at 8:14 p.m. Mr. Floyd stiffened up, fell to the ground, and told the officers he was claustrophobic.

6/3

As the officers tried to put Mr. Floyd in their squad car, Mr. Floyd stiffened up and fell to the ground.  Mr.
Floyd told the officers that he was not resisting but did not want to get in the back seat and was
claustrophobic.

There are a few more, but I'm done reading about this for the night. 

[PrimeNumber7]

My point is I think you should read the criminal complaint I linked.  It doesn't make the picture perfectly clear, but he was described as calm and polite after being handcuffed.  Then when they went to put him in the car he explicitly said he wasn't resisting, he was claustrophobic, and he couldn't breath - then he stiffened up and just went down.  The rest is clear from the video.

Interesting article that I read examining the incident a bit more closely - https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

TL;DR - Floyd was resisting and refusing to get in the police car probably because he was in an excited delirious state (ExDS), not because he was claustrophobic. There were a range of drugs in his system, including a deadly dose of fentanyl (11 ng/mL with average concentration being 10 ng/mL in an overdose). This explains why Floyd was acting so erratic and also why Derek Chauvin, a 19 year vet of the police department with military training and 4 years of military experience would seemingly do something stupid enough to have Floyd in a neck restraint for so long. Apparently it tends to be department policy to have anyone in a delirious state under full restraint until paramedics arrive on scene until they can inject the patient with loads of ketamine to calm them down.

The article also explores a few instances where people experiencing ExDS tend to die regardless of the restraint they're put in due to drugs and underlying conditions playing a role. The prosecution might try to argue that ExDS isn't a recognized condition by the American Medical Association but being in a delirious tends to have the same sorts of physical signs (agitation, aggression, reduced pain sensitivity, ect.)

The medium article you cited is short on citations, however, this is one very good example as to why rash decisions or actions are wrong before all the facts are available. It is also why the mayors and governors allowing the lawlessness to continue should be condemned in the strongest way possible.

I would be willing to bet the officers will be found not guilty because of who is prosecuting the case, Keith Ellison. This is someone who allegedly beat his girlfriend, and there is evidence to support this. I also believe him to be corrupt, and would not be surprised if he threw the case for political benefit.

If Floyd has > the OD dose of multiple drugs when he died, I would have serious doubt as to how much Chauvin's actions contributed to Floyd's death. I also have concerns about overcharging the officers, for political purposes.

[Gyfts]

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Look at the dates of the complaints. These were written by the DA's office after all the civil unrest. They very well could have merit, but keep in mind the charges that were levied against the 3 other officers who didn't place Floyd under neck restraint were completely baseless and were solely done to satisfy the mob/protesters. The charges were done for political reasons and I don't think anyone should be inclined to believe the latter reports have more merit than the previous reports. The fact is, we don't have the body cam footage which would provide a lot more context to the entire situation.

With the case in Atlanta with Rayshard Brooks, full bodycam videos were released immediately after the shooting. I have a feeling the bodycam video isn't being released because it will help out the defense because it will show George Floyd resisting.

I would be willing to bet the officers will be found not guilty because of who is prosecuting the case, Keith Ellison. This is someone who allegedly beat his girlfriend, and there is evidence to support this. I also believe him to be corrupt, and would not be surprised if he threw the case for political benefit.

If Floyd has > the OD dose of multiple drugs when he died, I would have serious doubt as to how much Chauvin's actions contributed to Floyd's death. I also have concerns about overcharging the officers, for political purposes.

Here's the autopsy report - https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/Autopsy_2020-3700_Floyd.pdf

Notable traces of drugs from the toxicology report are Fentanyl 11 ng/mL and Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL. This is more than enough drugs to be in a delirious state.

If Chauvin gets off, I don't think it'll be because of the prosecutor's record. I don't think the defense will invoke Ellison's domestic abuse past with all the other evidence that's available. Regardless if he gets off or not, I thought this was a clear cut case of murder when I watched the video. Now it seems more like poor department policy and potential negligence than anything else.