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July 16, 2021, 05:16:27 AM
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hello everyone
first of all sorry for my english

i have a huge problem
in the night to 14/7 i played Heads Up PLO against a one
with mbtc 0.5/1 ( 10/25$ ) 1.5hours

i was around 3k€ up against him, feeling comfortable, without problems against him,until a 3rd guy joined our table.

first. they do not go to showdown river each other in the next 50-55 minutes , any of these two guys folding lately on river and mucks. when i was folding. like soft play & colluding to keep money each other.

but with me one of these two guys going to showdown without a problem. no one hand going to showdown to 3rd. only against me to 2nd. each other without me not 1. hand.

in my opinion, its pretty obv. that when you play 4card omaha not possible for that. lost money obv.

i told nitrogensports to review the timestamp for these 50minutes after 3.person joined table.

example:
user 2 raises pre flop another guy fold. user 3 the same.
when i was calling/raising. only went to showdown against me. when they play each other they fold flop often/turn/river, no 1.hand was going to showdown.


i told nitrogensports to investigate that, and i want a refund until 3rd was joined for soft play/collusion its against TOS on every Pokersite. do you think that can be happen?

what are my lines?

i was shocked after review the Handhistorys 1day after ...

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July 16, 2021, 12:26:52 PM
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"I wouldnt wonder if they are actually nitro employees."

i thought the same.

"I reported this countless times and these people are still playing to this day"

when u see my HandHistory you will be laughing , in these 55minutes after 3rd was joining you see not one hand they played each other to showdown on the river ( folding asap before them )

against me they do but only one person never two.


for me clear evidence
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July 16, 2021, 04:46:05 PM
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"I wouldnt wonder if they are actually nitro employees."

i thought the same.

"I reported this countless times and these people are still playing to this day"

when u see my HandHistory you will be laughing , in these 55minutes after 3rd was joining you see not one hand they played each other to showdown on the river ( folding asap before them )

against me they do but only one person never two.


for me clear evidence
You should have leave the table if you think that it may look like two players joined forces to beat you to avoid losing more money rather than continuing playing that results in folding your hand even if you have a higher chance of winning versus their own hand. I came across like this on a gambling site but I didn't continue playing as it is very obvious they are only trying to make me lose. It's either they are employees or a group of people doing this kind of playing method.

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July 16, 2021, 05:25:44 PM
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yeah
after the session i reviewed all the hands from beginning 3rd person was joining,
it is very obvious.

no showdown each other in 1 hour in Omaha when i was folding preflop/flop. is very suspecious.
often one of them folds on flop 75% when they play headsup, other 25% turn/river
no "one round" i see showdown and the cards of them.

its under review in poker department from nitrogen, we will see what happend to me.

i have no problem, to told/share video of this to youtube/big poker forums like 2+2 and other, and beware people of playing there at med/high stakes
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July 16, 2021, 05:27:40 PM
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Complacency. Roll Eyes
I'm not sure if they actively seek out colluders on the poker site, but it has been a problem for years.

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July 16, 2021, 05:31:57 PM
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i hope no employee accounts but we didnt know,
otherwise,

i think i have a chance because the Handhistory in whole Time is clear evidence for that.
everybody will agree with that when he would see the HH`s like the Department, its under review.

its against all TOS from Poker Sites, unfair , robbing money, stealing money, collusion.
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July 18, 2021, 08:17:11 AM
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If you had beckond on the management of Nitrogen poker when you noticed the game plan it would have made it more easier to tackle seeking a refund would be a bit difficult. You would have just left with the €3k and that would have saved you the trouble. But you can still file a compaint to nitrogensports you might be lucky enough to get a positive response.
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July 18, 2021, 05:34:18 PM
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"I wouldnt wonder if they are actually nitro employees."

i thought the same.

"I reported this countless times and these people are still playing to this day"

when u see my HandHistory you will be laughing , in these 55minutes after 3rd was joining you see not one hand they played each other to showdown on the river ( folding asap before them )

against me they do but only one person never two.


for me clear evidence
I agree with you this was most likely collusion with those two players and a very obvious one if you ask me, however this means that your chances of getting that money back are very low as if the cheating can be that obvious and nothing has happened yet then there is a high chance they have done this on the past and got away with it.

Also it is possible this was not exactly collusion and this was simply the same player with two accounts, and the fact that he could receive two set of hands instead of just one gives to him an immense advantage over any other player like you that is playing fairly, I hope things are solved on your favor but I think it will be difficult for this to actually happen.

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July 18, 2021, 07:49:36 PM
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I agree with you this was most likely collusion with those two players and a very obvious one if you ask me, however this means that your chances of getting that money back are very low as if the cheating can be that obvious and nothing has happened yet then there is a high chance they have done this on the past and got away with it.

Also it is possible this was not exactly collusion and this was simply the same player with two accounts, and the fact that he could receive two set of hands instead of just one gives to him an immense advantage over any other player like you that is playing fairly, I hope things are solved on your favor but I think it will be difficult for this to actually happen.

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I saw many complaints about this matter... Nitrogen poker, SwC, CoinPoker, Sportsbet... and to be honest, I don't remember seeing that any of these casinos did something about collusion on their sites!

In the way OP explained, I believe it was collusion... simply, two guys waited for him, always one of them call, or both, while they didn't play against each other! I don't know what to say, I don't play poker at Nitrogen for a long time for this reason, and most of the time their tables are empty... I am not sure why Dnlju0 decided to invest this big amount to play poker on this site...

I don't believe that Nitrogen will do something about this, but maybe I am wrong... we will see will they react to this! If not, this will be just one more minus for them! Big one!

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July 22, 2021, 09:25:59 PM
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hello everyone
first of all sorry for my english

i have a huge problem
in the night to 14/7 i played Heads Up PLO against a one
with mbtc 0.5/1 ( 10/25$ ) 1.5hours

i was around 3k€ up against him, feeling comfortable, without problems against him,until a 3rd guy joined our table.

first. they do not go to showdown river each other in the next 50-55 minutes , any of these two guys folding lately on river and mucks. when i was folding. like soft play & colluding to keep money each other.

but with me one of these two guys going to showdown without a problem. no one hand going to showdown to 3rd. only against me to 2nd. each other without me not 1. hand.

in my opinion, its pretty obv. that when you play 4card omaha not possible for that. lost money obv.

i told nitrogensports to review the timestamp for these 50minutes after 3.person joined table.

example:
user 2 raises pre flop another guy fold. user 3 the same.
when i was calling/raising. only went to showdown against me. when they play each other they fold flop often/turn/river, no 1.hand was going to showdown.


i told nitrogensports to investigate that, and i want a refund until 3rd was joined for soft play/collusion its against TOS on every Pokersite. do you think that can be happen?

what are my lines?

i was shocked after review the Handhistorys 1day after ...



What have been their IDs or account numbers?
Trust me, Nitro will do shit.
I reported this countless times and these people are still playing to this day.

I wouldnt wonder if they are actually nitro employees.

This site has a reputation for colluding and so on and the staff does nothing for years now.

Even if they ban them, you will never get any of the money back.

Sorry for you!

You was total right!
Nitro Support doing nothing! will not see that is collusion because they know it exactly.
they have nitro employees for sure

Please dont Play Poker there!
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July 22, 2021, 09:30:04 PM
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for 5 days case is to management

last day and today -> support security wrote same as begin " not possible to see any collusion " etc.
answer same question every time to waste time. daily. where is the management to give me respone ?
yesterday i got message i should have another account <- they lie complete / only have 1 account with 2FA Authenication


for me its clear they do not want to see it or know it exactly and give a fuck about it.
management didnt response yet.
i ll quit nitrogen in future and i hope you do it too...

user names of this 2 accounts was: "Brutus" with low Number + "AliceLady"
Headsup was against "Alicelady" i was up 3k €
than this Magicman "Brutus" joined table
after that they played the way that i told you.

about this user i found on reddit this ->
https://www.reddit.com/r/nitrogensports/comments/m9xhdt/nitergen_sports_poker_cheatedrigged/

this guy on reddit thinks the same, maybe both of them are employees or something like that.


so i was not the only one, i think all people should know about it.
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July 22, 2021, 10:24:55 PM
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NitrogenSports have been slammed consistently for sometime now for various issues and I am not surprised to find out about this collusion angle. Thanks for sharing op.

I used to play here sometime back, but they limit way too quickly which is why I shifted other sites which were better in this aspect. They recently launched a new site and are planning to shift their resources towards it in order to replenish their image.

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July 24, 2021, 04:43:36 PM
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user names of this 2 accounts was: "Brutus" with low Number + "AliceLady"
Headsup was against "Alicelady" i was up 3k €
than this Magicman "Brutus" joined table
after that they played the way that i told you.

about this user i found on reddit this ->
https://www.reddit.com/r/nitrogensports/comments/m9xhdt/nitergen_sports_poker_cheatedrigged/

this guy on reddit thinks the same, maybe both of them are employees or something like that.


so i was not the only one, i think all people should know about it.

Thanks for sharing that, it’s really sad to hear the management didn’t take any actions, normally the casino websites are strict with these things. You’re absolutely right, them not going against each other even one single time is a clear sign of collusion, pretty stupid collusion btw, very obvious.

Although, I followed the Reddit link you attached and there was this guy claiming he’s “Brutus” (and proved it) saying that he didn’t participate in collusion and has experienced playing against bots on Nitro as well, that's kinda weird.

Anyway, I think it’s better to stay away from this website now. Too bad, I thought better of Nitrogen Undecided
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July 24, 2021, 05:25:02 PM
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for 5 days case is to management

last day and today -> support security wrote same as begin " not possible to see any collusion " etc.
answer same question every time to waste time. daily. where is the management to give me respone ?
yesterday i got message i should have another account <- they lie complete / only have 1 account with 2FA Authenication


for me its clear they do not want to see it or know it exactly and give a fuck about it.
management didnt response yet.
i ll quit nitrogen in future and i hope you do it too...

user names of this 2 accounts was: "Brutus" with low Number + "AliceLady"
Headsup was against "Alicelady" i was up 3k €
than this Magicman "Brutus" joined table
after that they played the way that i told you.

about this user i found on reddit this ->
https://www.reddit.com/r/nitrogensports/comments/m9xhdt/nitergen_sports_poker_cheatedrigged/

this guy on reddit thinks the same, maybe both of them are employees or something like that.


so i was not the only one, i think all people should know about it.


I was actually the person who made him prove that he is brutus on reddit, haha.
He is a regular since long time.
But he is def running way too good on the site. On swc his terrible play got exploited real quick, only saw him losing there.

Its strange that Brutus normally is one of the most aggro players on nitro but yet he is checking to the other guy.
On the other hand, why would he first play you with a different account and then join with brutus, doesnt make too much sense.
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