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June 30, 2021, 08:07:56 PM
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Man's version of Satan is an invention of man. When people think that there isn't any real Satan, he gets as close to happiness as his wicked little self can get. Why? Because then they won't really believe in God either. Then they will go to Hell, and Satan (God's enemy) might actually get some semblance of happiness out of this.

I don't believe in God, and I wouldn't worship him/her even if they were proven to exist... but as an outsider I'm curious as to how Satan is perceived by those who do believe. If God is everything, then Satan is an aspect of God, right? Is that what you're alluding to? I mean, if God is 'good', then 'good' doesn't mean anything without 'evil' also existing, so Satan is a necessary aspect and manifestation of God, because if he didn't exist, then God couldn't be conceived of as being 'good'? Or don't you see it like that?

God gives you your choice. Sure, we are all under constraints and restraints. But we have choice in lots of areas. You have the free choice of replying to a post or not, even if you don't have the freedom to jump to the moon. Same with Satan, except that the jobs God made for him in life were far greater than the ones God made for us. That's why Satan has the strength he has.

Satan simply used his free will to make evil choices. If God hadn't made the evil choices available, there would be far less free will. God didn't force any of us to make evil choices. God doesn't do that, because He is Supremely Good.

No, nobody is an aspect of God. God is His Own Self. We are our own selves. The angels are their own selves.

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July 01, 2021, 05:01:54 PM
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Thanks for the explanation, that's helpful. One problem I've always had with religion is that it can feel like a refusal to accept responsibility - if God created everything and is directing everything, then none of your actions (or inactions) are really "yours" at all... you are behaving, for good or evil, exactly as God made you to behave.

God gives you your choice. Sure, we are all under constraints and restraints. But we have choice in lots of areas.

I know you're talking about free will, but is anyone truly free if they have a brain that has been built for them by God? And thought patterns that arise in that brain?

Similarly, if heaven is the reward for living a good life, can your actions really be considered "good", if you know that you'll be rewarded for them? How do we distinguish between a religious person performing a good act because a) they are genuinely being kind and simply want to, or b) they have an expectation of being rewarded for it in the afterlife, and are willing to do anything it takes to get that reward?






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Thanks for the explanation, that's helpful. One problem I've always had with religion is that it can feel like a refusal to accept responsibility - if God created everything and is directing everything, then none of your actions (or inactions) are really "yours" at all... you are behaving, for good or evil, exactly as God made you to behave.

God gives you your choice. Sure, we are all under constraints and restraints. But we have choice in lots of areas.

I know you're talking about free will, but is anyone truly free if they have a brain that has been built for them by God? And thought patterns that arise in that brain?

Similarly, if heaven is the reward for living a good life, can your actions really be considered "good", if you know that you'll be rewarded for them? How do we distinguish between a religious person performing a good act because a) they are genuinely being kind and simply want to, or b) they have an expectation of being rewarded for it in the afterlife, and are willing to do anything it takes to get that reward?


Let's go to math. Mathematics is purely virtual. 1 + 1 = 2, right? Yes, right. But only virtually. Never in what we call real life. Why not? Because you can't find any two things in the whole universe that are exactly the same so that we can add them together thereby making 1 + 1 = 2. It's virtual. It's all in our mind.

Why can we add 1 + 1 = 2 if it's virtual? Simple. We are virtual, aright along with God, because we are His children. The Earth and Universe are our fallopian tube. We aren't even down into the uterus where we can take hold of the wall of the uterus, and attach ourselves to it to get nourishment from Mother Jerusalem in Heaven, through the placenta, through the umbilical cord.

Until you figure some of these things out, there's way more things in life for me to do than to be your unpaid tutor.

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July 02, 2021, 08:34:23 AM
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Well, thanks anyway. I got some wider perspective for some of my questions, even if you weren't able (or didn't want to try to) answer others.
And don't worry... I'm sure we'll be back to our usual position of disagreeing on everything soon enough Smiley






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Well, thanks anyway. I got some wider perspective for some of my questions, even if you weren't able (or didn't want to try to) answer others.
And don't worry... I'm sure we'll be back to our usual position of disagreeing on everything soon enough Smiley

We won't be disagreeing very much. Even God agrees with you for yourself, just like He agrees with me for myself. It doesn't matter. We die, usually along the way to 100 years. God lives forever, and only those who agree with Him get to live forever with Him.

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