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June 19, 2020, 07:27:32 AM
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The title is misleading, the survey might be biased.
Millennials would choose Bitcoin over traditional banks, because they knew how this latest financial technology works than those less techy people in the mid 50's.
Anyway, No matter how many times you'll compare Bitcoin to traditional banking system or USD, it can never replace by Bitcoin ( at least for the next 20 years).
Nevertheless, Bitcoin has still a long way to go If we're looking at a competitive perspective with banks.


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June 19, 2020, 08:14:57 AM
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4852 in over 17 countries? 4852 people can't even be considered as a 0.1% percent of the population in most country. for me, the survey shows really show how popular but bitcoin is but that the younger generations are more open-minded than the older generation and they are not scared to accept and explore new technologies.

OP are you referring to this site. https://thetokenist.io/news? Can you share the link or source that they did qoute the popularity of BTC over banks.
I searched around and found this https://thetokenist.io/bitcoin-survey-2017-vs-2020/

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June 19, 2020, 08:15:20 AM
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Being a big fan of Bitcoin myself, I think we will never reach the point when it will be right to say "Bitcoin is More Popular Than Traditional Banks". If 10% of the world population will be using BTC, that will be a great victory(and I'm sure we'll be there in several years), but it will take more than 20 years from now for Bitcoin to become even more popular.

Also, regarding Bitcoin replacing banks completely, it will hardly happen ever. Banks are being used not only for keeping your money there, but also for taking loans. You can't take a loan from Bitcoin.

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June 19, 2020, 08:28:35 AM
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I'm not surprised by this especially as, with Bitcoin and other digital currency, you have control over your assets. Banks are outdated and digital currency is here to disrupt the industry.
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June 19, 2020, 11:10:19 AM
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According to the cyber media Tokenist, based on the results of their survey not long ago. The survey involved 4,852 respondents from 17 countries. According to the survey the number of people who trust Bitcoin more than large banks, increased by 29 percent in the last three years. The survey also showed differences in the generation's views about Bitcoin and traditional banks. 51 percent of millennials trust Bitcoin more than traditional banks.
I think this is too good to be true. I'm not saying the survey is fake, but I strongly suspect it's not representative of the society. If the worldwide support of Bitcoin were so high, the number of users would be not around 2% of the population but billions of people. It's very easy to manipulate such data or make methodological mistakes due to the lack of knowledge how it's supposed to be done. So what this survey says is that among 5k respondents that happened to be included in the survey, the results were such and such. It's not so much about a number of people but about how these people were chosen. Chances are, these were people that read The Tokenist, and these are not your average people.

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June 19, 2020, 11:21:25 AM
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According to the cyber media Tokenist, based on the results of their survey not long ago. The survey involved 4,852 respondents from 17 countries. According to the survey the number of people who trust Bitcoin more than large banks, increased by 29 percent in the last three years. The survey also showed differences in the generation's views about Bitcoin and traditional banks. 51 percent of millennials trust Bitcoin more than traditional banks.
This is why I don't trust any surveys AT ALL.

They are just asking 4,852 out of so many people around the world and they will just assume that all of the people are just as the same as to the respondents. I don't need to say anything since this SURVEY is just 4852 respondents and I don't think that the subject title is suitable for this since it really isn't Cheesy.

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June 19, 2020, 12:19:48 PM
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We can say that the popularity of bitcoin has increased in last few years.People started to know about bitcoin and they also speak about it.But to say that bitcoin is more popular than bank is not right.Bitcoin has started to grow but banks are the premier financial institution.Firstly comparing bitcoin and banks is not possible as both are different but if we compare bitcoin with other Fiat than also bitcoin is behind.
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June 19, 2020, 12:31:32 PM
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I would like to see some concrete data to support that. Also, is this on global level or limited to some particular country? I guess, at the end, this is just provisional claim.
We have to be honest and admit that acceptance of Bitcoin is still very low and don't mary people in general use Bitcoin. Maybe they don't like banks much but they still need to use fiat money and banking services, that is the fsctact, so let's not full ourselves.

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June 19, 2020, 01:11:01 PM
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Yes it's true that people are showing their faith in Bitcoins but I think it's not appropriate to say that they are trusting bitcoins over large banks. For now, not many people are familiar with cryptocurrency and they are making their transactions using conventional banking system so bitcoins and banks should not be compared. It is for sure that young generation is more into cryptocurrency but if you talk about senior citizens they would surely prefer banks over bitcoins.
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June 19, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
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According to the cyber media Tokenist, based on the results of their survey not long ago. The survey involved 4,852 respondents from 17 countries. According to the survey the number of people who trust Bitcoin more than large banks, increased by 29 percent in the last three years. The survey also showed differences in the generation's views about Bitcoin and traditional banks. 51 percent of millennials trust Bitcoin more than traditional banks.

I don't see any reality from it although bitcoin is popular on us since we know how it works and others, but the reality there is we cannot actually compare nor come close to the traditional bank since bitcoin still not known by globally the usage of it in real life still limited and you cannot find any legit institution offering a secure place to store your bitcoin with interest so maybe let's just stick on reality, But I'm kinda had a feeling that if good things will continuously come we will see it surpass the traditional banking.

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June 19, 2020, 01:45:12 PM
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You can’t say directly that Bitcoin is more popular than Bank.In modern life we can't even think our life without Bank.But there are countless of people who even don't know or never heard of Bitcoin.

Actually i prefer Bitcoin but because of some reason many people don't trust bitcoin.Because we hear many news about hacking of bitcoin and it always frightens us.And in many country bitcoin is illegal and they thought it is a very bad thing.So at first We should grow more awareness and we should legalize bitcoin in all country.

Then in near future,bitcoin may surpass bank  and it will be more popular than ever.
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June 19, 2020, 03:22:47 PM
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The survey is encouraging to the point that people especially those who deal with Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will be more motivated in their dealings with the said technology. It is not a secret that there are many people are organizing all over the world to make Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies more known and have more investors and more participants. Eventually let us give it 10 years or so before it will take off.

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June 19, 2020, 03:25:42 PM
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According to the cyber media Tokenist, based on the results of their survey not long ago. The survey involved 4,852 respondents from 17 countries. According to the survey the number of people who trust Bitcoin more than large banks, increased by 29 percent in the last three years. The survey also showed differences in the generation's views about Bitcoin and traditional banks. 51 percent of millennials trust Bitcoin more than traditional banks.

Well this simply isn't true, unfortunately. This is a really small sample size first off, secondly most people still trust banks and have no clue what actually goes on inside the banking system.  I wish people would educate themselves more but they simply don't.

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June 19, 2020, 03:41:15 PM
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I am sure that the numbers aren't accurate. The survey would have been conducted on a small scale since large surveys require huge time and effort.
If you do a little research and find out the actual number of people who took this survey then that would be some piece of information.
But even that would be an incomplete information since that would be limited to a certain area.
Bitcoin is operated globally on a large scale and in order to retrieve a near accurate ratio, a combined effort of research and survey would be must.

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June 19, 2020, 04:27:06 PM
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It's a positive statistic for cryptocurrency but I wonder how they picked their respondents to participate in that survey. I also don't think that almost 5,000 participants are already enough to assume that bitcoin is already more popular than traditional banks. Perhaps in a certain group or age of people, but not totally for everyone. It's pretty obvious that the younger generation will appreciate bitcoin and cryptocurrency than the older generation because they are more aware of digital advancements. There's no point in arguing with that since they are more capable of adapting with technology.

But I think it would be better to widen the number of participants if they want to represent 17 countries. Even in academic research that percentage compared to the population of those countries are not enough to make an accurate conclusion.
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June 19, 2020, 04:52:58 PM
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According to the cyber media Tokenist, based on the results of their survey not long ago. The survey involved 4,852 respondents from 17 countries. According to the survey the number of people who trust Bitcoin more than large banks, increased by 29 percent in the last three years. The survey also showed differences in the generation's views about Bitcoin and traditional banks. 51 percent of millennials trust Bitcoin more than traditional banks.

It is always good in addition to naming the source a reference link to the data provided.

Apart from the data provided in the OP, they have nothing to do with the title of the thread, because in practice trust has nothing to do with popularity. Second, the institutions, that is, in this case, the banks are physical entities, there is no accurate comparison here, rather it seems like a play on words.

4852 is a very small sample to indicate an overall trend, there is no reliable correlation of the data in order to obtain statistical results that allow us to establish the level of confidence that a value such as 29% or 51% can represent.

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June 19, 2020, 05:00:31 PM
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I would like to see some concrete data to support that....

It is always good in addition to naming the source a reference link to the data provided.

Here is the complete survey result for those looking for more details (@OP didn't post anything) Very long page to read by the way
https://thetokenist.io/bitcoin-survey-2017-vs-2020/

Participants are from 17 countries (not any particular) and come from a survey network mainly and their email list. @OP forgot to say the confidence in Bitcoin dropped for some age groups (senior people for example).

(IIRC, this survey network rewards people to take their surveys so people answer the questions the way to make the network happy to be sure to get the money and to not be rejected in the middle of the survey)

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June 19, 2020, 05:14:49 PM
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Those of us in the community wish it were so that Bitcoin has more popularity. However, that isn't so if we must stick to the truth. In Africa (where am from) there are millions of people who haven't even heard of Bitcoin let alone know how it works or what it does. But these millions know what a traditional bank is. My mum is an example of such who aren't in the know, except that she hears me talk about it once in a while. Frankly speaking, there shouldn't be a competition between the bank and Bitcoin for it to succeed. All we need is mass adoption of Bitcoin and not rivalry.

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June 19, 2020, 05:25:04 PM
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But bitcoin ain't a bank.
It is a currency.
The survey made the wrong comparison.
It should be BTC against USD or its own currency and digital currencies.

Bitcoin doesn't give an annual interest like banks. Yes, the price of it is moving now and you could make profits out of it but that means selling your bitcoin with a different currency.

This is correct, but Bitcoin is also enabling people to bypass banks. People were led to believe that banks are a necessary evil, but they are not. Of course, with fiat money, any amount you keep by yourself is losing value, they do this on purpose. In their biased view, the "punishment" is meant to make you invest or spend it by force, and with this they justify their dogma that no money cannot keep its value, our of feat that, the horror, people would save it instead; thus stagnate their model. Which explain their insane fear of deflation.

Enter the Austrian school of economy, which a century ago was telling people they should use gold, not fiat. They warned the dangers while in the roaring 20ies, pretty much predicted the crash of 29... If the money doesn't lose value, people don't need to spend it all. In fact, people only need to spend what actually needs to be spent. This leads to saving it, but not in a bank; but by yourself.

The modern bank, with its legalized Ponzi scheme known as fractional reserve, seems to "magically" keep some of the value of fiat, by offering interest for those fool enough to trust their money to them. In turn, its not like they just lent your money to others, they also introduce at least 9 times the amount of that money (out of thin air) into the system, which is even worse than printing (but close).

To break the scam the banks need to change, but they won't, so the next best is, to not use them. But your fiat is losing value, so either you change it into some asset, or, a money that doesn't lose value over time, like bitcoin. Note that the Austrians meant actual gold, not "gold backed" currency, that's garbage. All pegged coins (so called "stable" coins nowdays) live on a promise easy to break by the small group that controls it when things turn bad. The USD for example where Trump prints as much as he wants like it doesn't matter, and scam coin Tether doing 30% fractional reserve according to their promise (good luck auditing that, and they have already broken that promise at least once).

And then there is the whole privacy invasion issue, and the requisites. Many of you are probably biased, think opening a bank account couldn't be easier, but that's not the case in all countries. There are places where you are forced to provide so many things you might have an easier time getting your elected official to actually deliver on their election promise than a bank letting you give them your hard earned money. You need proof of address, proof of nationality, a good amount of money and often, having accounts in other banks already (which makes opening your first starting account kind of tricky).

You know it is fine to get rid of them, and I'm no millennial, but i hate banks. Cheques were still in wide use until recently, a few years ago before hyperinflation finally moved in. Those things, took days to cash, and were highly prone for scam, you had to ask the bank on telephone to find out if the person had the money wrote in the paper before taking it as a form of payment, and then you had to rush to the bank to cash it out (usually in a way too long line) so that the money was still there...

Yet some people have the nerve to complain of a 1 day confirmation on super secure Bitcoin instant transaction...

The only problem with actual gold, is that being physical, you have to protect it and yourself of thievery, and of course it gets heavy. But Bitcoin is better.

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June 19, 2020, 05:33:34 PM
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Popularity is rarely aligned with usage.

Although most people support the utopian ideals of Bitcoin, far fewer people actually use. Conversely, practically everybody in developed countries uses their bank account, whereas even the unbanked don't use Bitcoin simply because they lack access to the internet, computers or a stable source of power.

I would bet that there are no countries in the world where Bitcoin user numbers exceed central bank users, probably less than 2% of people use Bitcoin, compared to around 80% for banks.

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