GT3000
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June 11, 2014, 11:42:04 PM |
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You're setting the dangerous precedent of slandering/libeling someone without verifiable proof. I'm all for transparency and bringing scammers to justice but you're not helping if what you're posting can not be proved. Ryan is probably a scammer and this exchange is a ponzi scheme or worse but this until you can prove what you're saying, stop posting. It's unhelpful at best and counterproductive at worst.
So let's see the dox otherwise quit it.
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MrWDunne
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June 11, 2014, 11:44:30 PM |
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You're setting the dangerous precedent of slandering/libeling someone without verifiable proof. I'm all for transparency and bringing scammers to justice but you're not helping if what you're posting can not be proved. Ryan is probably a scammer and this exchange is a ponzi scheme or worse but this until you can prove what you're saying, stop posting. It's unhelpful at best and counterproductive at worst.
So let's see the dox otherwise quit it.
He gave case numbers. Can't you look that up yourself?
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RiverBoatBTC
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June 11, 2014, 11:45:34 PM |
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Do you want all 23 case numbers ROFL slander is only that if it is untrue and unfounded... I can prove everything I say and I record every call I make. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2yn4cgm.jpg&t=665&c=fSZXM1H8bNUAdA)
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GT3000
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June 11, 2014, 11:47:55 PM |
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Perfect. I have zero problems with this. If you've got the screenshots, post 'em.
All of them. There's no such thing as too much evidence, there is too little.
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RiverBoatBTC
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June 11, 2014, 11:49:28 PM |
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Perfect. I have zero problems with this. If you've got the screenshots, post 'em.
All of them. There's no such thing as too much evidence, there is too little.
I only release the information as requested by the people who pay for it. I am working on a recovery of assets with this one so I do not care.
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GT3000
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June 11, 2014, 11:53:34 PM |
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Perfect. I have zero problems with this. If you've got the screenshots, post 'em.
All of them. There's no such thing as too much evidence, there is too little.
I only release the information as requested by the people who pay for it. I am working on a recovery of assets with this one so I do not care. Then you need to stop sniffing around threads and let people come to you. First, it makes you look like a damn ambulance chaser. Second, it creates discord within the thread. Unless you're a shareholder you don't need to participate in this thread. Especially if you're here to advertise your services. Have some tact.
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RiverBoatBTC
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June 11, 2014, 11:55:09 PM |
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Um I was contacted....
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MrWDunne
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June 11, 2014, 11:55:50 PM |
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Perfect. I have zero problems with this. If you've got the screenshots, post 'em.
All of them. There's no such thing as too much evidence, there is too little.
I only release the information as requested by the people who pay for it. I am working on a recovery of assets with this one so I do not care. Then you need to stop sniffing around threads and let people come to you. First, it makes you look like a damn ambulance chaser. Second, it creates discord within the thread. Unless you're a shareholder you don't need to participate in this thread. Especially if you're here to advertise your services. Have some tact. Damn RiverBoatBTC. Giving you scammers details. You, RiverBoat, are a scumbag.
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June 12, 2014, 12:01:56 AM |
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I know Despicable me ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.guim.co.uk%2Fsys-images%2FGuardian%2FPix%2Fpictures%2F2013%2F8%2F6%2F1375777803730%2FDespicable-Me-2-010.jpg&t=665&c=7mdweWTTN0AmsA)
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badpeanut
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June 12, 2014, 12:24:14 AM |
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Perfect. I have zero problems with this. If you've got the screenshots, post 'em.
All of them. There's no such thing as too much evidence, there is too little.
I only release the information as requested by the people who pay for it. I am working on a recovery of assets with this one so I do not care. Then you need to stop sniffing around threads and let people come to you. First, it makes you look like a damn ambulance chaser. Second, it creates discord within the thread. Unless you're a shareholder you don't need to participate in this thread. Especially if you're here to advertise your services. Have some tact. Ok, ok, ok, i give up... Tbh i dont have any shares in Coinpal my bad lol. I was sniffing from page 1 and try to make friends in the bitcoin community. Well, it works!!! 39 pages for fun and giggles ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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RiverBoatBTC
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June 12, 2014, 12:33:40 AM |
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Lordy de Lordy http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/Search.aspx?ID=100&NodeID=100%2c101%2c102%2c103%2c200%2c201%2c202%2c203%2c204%2c205%2c206%2c207%2c208%2c209%2c210%2c211%2c212%2c213%2c214%2c215%2c216%2c217%2c300%2c301%2c302%2c303%2c304%2c305%2c306%2c307%2c308%2c309%2c310%2c311%2c312%2c313%2c314%2c315%2c316%2c317%2c318%2c319%2c320%2c321%2c322%2c400%2c401%2c402%2c403%2c404%2c405%2c406%2c407%2c500%2c501%2c502%2c503%2c504%2c505%2c507%2c508%2c600%2c601%2c602%2c603%2c604&NodeDesc=Orange+CountyCase Number Citation Number Defendant Info Filed/Location/Judicial Officer Type/Status Charge(s) 2000-TR-030900-A-E 6872ANF GAY, RYAN T 11/15/2000 Winter Park Martinez, Wilfredo Civil Traffic Infraction Closed T speed posted county road or municipal st 2000-TR-034412-A-E 9376APY GAY, RYAN T 12/09/2000 Winter Park Miller, W Michael Civil Traffic Infraction Closed T fail to obey traffic control device 2000-TR-035224-A-E 8141APY GAY, RYAN T 12/14/2000 Winter Park Officer, 95 Hearing Civil Traffic Infraction Closed T fail to obey traffic control device 2001-CF-016259-A-O GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 12/03/2001 Div 19 Thorpe, Janet C Criminal Felony Closed CR-POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE OFFENSE POSSESS USE ETC DRUG PARAPHERNALIA CR-POSSESSION OF ALCOHOL BY PERSON UNDER 21 2002-CF-009452-A-O GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 07/26/2002 Div 12 Murphy, Mike Criminal Felony Closed CR-POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE 2002-MM-000791-A-E GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 09/27/2002 Winter Park Adams, Martha C Misdemeanor Closed BATTERY BATTERY 2006-TR-010973-A-E 2419EIM GAY, RYAN TYSON 05/31/2006 Winter Park Officer, 95 Hearing Civil Traffic Infraction Closed TR- NO APPROVED EYE PROTECT WHILE ON MOTORCYC 2006-TR-022484-A-E 1062FEW GAY, RYAN TYSON 10/30/2006 Winter Park Officer, 95 Hearing Civil Traffic Infraction Closed TR- CARELESS DRIVING 2006-TR-022485-A-E 1063FEW GAY, RYAN TYSON 10/30/2006 Winter Park Officer, 95 Hearing Civil Traffic Infraction Closed TR-DRIVING WHILE LICENSE SUSP/REV WITHOUT KN 2007-CF-000942-A-O GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 01/19/2007 Div 22 Wooten, Wayne C Criminal Felony Reclosed TRAFFICKING IN DILAUDID OBTAIN/ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN DRUG BY FRAUD OBTAIN/ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN DRUG BY FRAUD CR-POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA 2007-CF-000943-A-O GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 01/19/2007 Div 22 Wooten, Wayne C Criminal Felony Closed TRAFFICKING IN CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE OBTAIN/ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN DRUG BY FRAUD CR-POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA 2007-CF-017234-A-O GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 11/18/2007 Div 22 Wooten, Wayne C Criminal Felony Closed CR-POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE Not Applicable CR-POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE 2007-CT-018422-A-O 5670XAT GAY, RYAN TYSON 11/18/2007 Orlando Martinez, Wilfredo Criminal Traffic Closed CT- RECKLESS DRIVING - ALCOHOL RELATED 2007-TR-211684-A-O 6286SJJ GAY, RYAN TYSON 11/28/2007 Orlando Officer, 98 Hearing Civil Traffic Infraction Closed TR- OPER MOTOR VEH/MOBILE HOME W/EXPIRED TAG 2007-TR-211722-A-O 6287SJJ GAY, RYAN TYSON 11/28/2007 Orlando Officer, 98 Hearing Civil Traffic Infraction Closed TR-DRIVERS LICENSE EXPIRED LESS THAN 4 MONTH 2009-CF-010380-A-O GAY, RYAN TYSON 09/15/1981 07/14/2009 Div 15 Underwood, Christi L Criminal Felony Reclosed CR-POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE CR-POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE CR-POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
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Jacques21
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June 12, 2014, 01:04:27 AM |
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I cant help comming back to this thread, it gets more interesting every week. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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AmericanBit
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June 12, 2014, 03:30:29 AM |
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I spoke to Ryan, and according to him Coinpal will be launched tomorrow or Friday. The first dev he was working with pretty much screwed him, so hes been playing catch up with the other devs. He found the old dev on bitcointalk, so he will release his handle so everyone can see who he was working with. The old dev finally recently got back to him and said he would refund him some bitcoin, but he doesn't have it yet to pay him back. So I don't know whats up with that, but hes trying to get refunded.
However, per Ryan Coinpal will go live by this weekend. So everyone just needs to relax. Also keep in mind, most of you people were buying shares when bitcoin was worth $400. Hes been paying divs with bitcoin at $650. So its not as black and white as everything thinks. This is a very complicated situation where there are a lot of factors.
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SamboNZ
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June 12, 2014, 02:20:34 PM |
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I agree with everything Tricomp posted about how we should approach this; a measured, staged approach will give the best results, not cowboys shooting guns.
To all non-shareholders; While I'm sure all CoinPal shareholders appreciate your concern and offers of support and alternative solutions / deals, I for one would appreciate it if you would allow us, the shareholders, to approach this situation as we see fit.
To all shareholders; Before we take any kind of action, could we please get some kind of consensus? Any action (especially legal action) has the potential to impact all shareholder's invested equity so I think it's only fair that all shareholders get a say in what happens next. Perhaps someone could setup a poll to gauge the will of the group?
While I certainly agree that recent evidence doesn't paint a particularly rosy picture of Ryan G's history, if you actually read through the details of his offenses, you will note that many of them are for minor issues (eg; NO APPROVED EYE PROTECT WHILE ON MOTORCYCLE - LOL), plus for all we know, the 'drug' charges might only be for weed.
In any case, can we please give Ryan G a few more days to potentially launch the site? The last thing I want to see happen is for CoinPal to be taken down a few days before it is due to launch and then we find out that it is legit! As mentioned, he is taking virtually no further money in now, so leaving it a few days isn't really going to hurt.
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June 12, 2014, 02:39:42 PM |
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I had a long google+ convo with his buddy, AmericanBit. I guess he thought I was playing around with him, he pretty much said that because Ryan is paying dividends this can not be a scam. This is not true he could be pulling a ponzi. (anyone know where the dividends are derived from?) Then he asked what Ryan was doing wrong, I pulled the F.S. and the US G.S. that defined unregistered security laws. He told me it would "take deep pockets" to pursue him in any wrong doing. I think he is referencing the fact that Mr. Gays mother is a Lawyer. Mr. Gays offenses are not for weed, they are for Pills and obtaining them by false pretenses aka perscription fraud. He also has one for battery, AmericanBit is a close and personal friend of Ryan from what I can gather they have very close addresses in their history and he seems to know Ryan rather well. This is my personal opinion of the whole situation, you have a spoiled over privileged person. Who has gotten off with a smack on the wrist for everything he has done in his life due to his parents standing. 1 owning a very large business the other being a Lawyer ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) allowing him to pretty much do what he wants through out his life. When I called his place of work yesterday they I chatted the lady up in order to gather information, she said he normally does not come to work untill after 2pm I proceeded to ask when the business closed she said 5pm. The lady also proceeded to tell me they have not seen him in a couple of days. Now from what I put am seeing this is the typical habits of someone who is on hard drugs.. not weed. You are right give him a little time, I have already been contacted by multiple share holders to recover assets. If he has not cleared the air by Monday then I am going to turn some screws.
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June 13, 2014, 01:05:19 AM |
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I had a long google+ convo with his buddy, AmericanBit. I guess he thought I was playing around with him, he pretty much said that because Ryan is paying dividends this can not be a scam. This is not true he could be pulling a ponzi. (anyone know where the dividends are derived from?) Then he asked what Ryan was doing wrong, I pulled the F.S. and the US G.S. that defined unregistered security laws. He told me it would "take deep pockets" to pursue him in any wrong doing. I think he is referencing the fact that Mr. Gays mother is a Lawyer. Mr. Gays offenses are not for weed, they are for Pills and obtaining them by false pretenses aka perscription fraud. He also has one for battery, AmericanBit is a close and personal friend of Ryan from what I can gather they have very close addresses in their history and he seems to know Ryan rather well. This is my personal opinion of the whole situation, you have a spoiled over privileged person. Who has gotten off with a smack on the wrist for everything he has done in his life due to his parents standing. 1 owning a very large business the other being a Lawyer ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) allowing him to pretty much do what he wants through out his life. When I called his place of work yesterday they I chatted the lady up in order to gather information, she said he normally does not come to work untill after 2pm I proceeded to ask when the business closed she said 5pm. The lady also proceeded to tell me they have not seen him in a couple of days. Now from what I put am seeing this is the typical habits of someone who is on hard drugs.. not weed. You are right give him a little time, I have already been contacted by multiple share holders to recover assets. If he has not cleared the air by Monday then I am going to turn some screws. Thanks for your work.
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GT3000
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June 13, 2014, 03:56:02 AM |
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The Exchange is up. I just registered and signed in.
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June 13, 2014, 04:22:24 AM |
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The Exchange is up. I just registered and signed in.
Hows that for a plot twist lol.
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GT3000
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June 13, 2014, 04:25:26 AM |
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Lol, right?
Still doesn't mean we can't be scammed but this goes to show that Ryan G may be telling the truth or at the very least, trying.
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Ghris
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June 13, 2014, 04:36:30 AM |
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Lol, right?
Still doesn't mean we can't be scammed but this goes to show that Ryan G may be telling the truth or at the very least, trying.
Or scared and went legit. Not sure what is up.. time will tell i guess
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