Spotted this guy selling his Hero account!

[bob123]

The case is quite complicated to me. To be honest I strongly believe this account has placed for sell as per provided all evidence on the post/reply. But since telegram become heaven for scammers and its possible to edit image so red tag shouldn't leave right now IMO.

If we could get any information from a moderator whether the mail address is the correct address of the account, it actually would be enough evidence.
But i doubt that any moderator will step in and give out this information "just because" of the sale of an account.

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[Texac]

please tell me.  I can’t sell my account? is it really forbidden?

[The Cryptovator]

please tell me.  I can’t sell my account? is it really forbidden?

It's not against forum rules but most of community members don't like account sales. It would led to scam & spam in future after sold. As I talked with you it's true you are selling your account.  For reference I will post all chat history here.

If we could get any information from a moderator whether the mail address is the correct address of the account, it actually would be enough evidence.
But i doubt that any moderator will step in and give out this information "just because" of the sale of an account.

Not necessary, he have admitted to me via telegram and forum message as well.

I can assure this account has placed for sell.

Here is telegram chat history. His username is @Texac1985

@Texac1985

Archived.

Here is chat history.

Since he admitted I think I don't need to upload images. Here is our forum message.

Hello. It's me.

I will deal only via bitcointalk message. Let me know fixed price for this account you are going to sell and how we will make deal. Use escrow or you will send first?

By the way this account have stake address?

Do you have escrow available?  I can sell you directly.  I will give the login and password, and then you change as you want.

Here he have admitted, quoted for reference.

I just need money and was not going to cheat.  I am ready to do it through escrow, but I do not know how to do it.

Archived thread for future reference

[Texac]

I just need money and was not going to cheat.  I am ready to do it through escrow, but I do not know how to do it.

[LoyceV]

I just need money and was not going to cheat.  I am ready to do it through escrow, but I do not know how to do it.

You may not scam/spam, but the new owner will look like someone who's been here for 6 years. Selling accounts is totally okay with the forum rules, but it's frowned upon:

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Leaving negative feedback for account sales is also okay with the forum rules.

[cheezcarls]

please tell me.  I can’t sell my account? is it really forbidden?

It's not against forum rules but most of community members don't like account sales. It would led to scam & spam in future after sold. As I talked with you it's true you are selling your account.  For reference I will post all chat history here.

If we could get any information from a moderator whether the mail address is the correct address of the account, it actually would be enough evidence.
But i doubt that any moderator will step in and give out this information "just because" of the sale of an account.

Not necessary, he have admitted to me via telegram and forum message as well.

I can assure this account has placed for sell.

Here is telegram chat history. His username is @Texac1985

@Texac1985

Archived.

Here is chat history.

Since he admitted I think I don't need to upload images. Here is our forum message.

Hello. It's me.

I will deal only via bitcointalk message. Let me know fixed price for this account you are going to sell and how we will make deal. Use escrow or you will send first?

By the way this account have stake address?

Do you have escrow available?  I can sell you directly.  I will give the login and password, and then you change as you want.

Here he have admitted, quoted for reference.

I just need money and was not going to cheat.  I am ready to do it through escrow, but I do not know how to do it.

Archived thread for future reference

Since @Texac finally admitted, that's a solid proof now that I'm right about him in selling his BTT account. Like you said, most of the community members (including myself) doesn't like account sales even if it's allowed but discouraged. I rest my case then.

[The Cryptovator]

Leaving negative feedback for account sales is also okay with the forum rules.

Actually I had left negative feedback when he have admitted about account sales. But I surprised even a Hero member didn't noticed about his neutral feedback which have left by other DT members and he had agreed to send me account details upfront. I am pretty sure he wasn't aware about trust system and he really don't know account sales are dislike by community. If he knew before then he shouldn't sent me PM from his account.

What I believe seller badly need money and that was the reason he was looking for sale account. Personally I believe he isn't account farmer at all since I talked with him telegram. Even simply he is asking questions on this thread. Account farmers will never admit like this about account sale. He realized his mistake and he promised me that he will not attempt anymore to sell account. So I reconsider his negative feedback turn into neutral. But obviously it will turn negative again if I found change password and email in future.

It's just a second chance for him.

[hacker1001101001]

This is like asking other people's if I can sell my own property or not ! Horribly centralized indeed.

It's nice and humanly to see Texac getting a second chance out of this anyways.

[suchmoon]

This is like asking other people's if I can sell my own property or not ! Horribly centralized indeed.

It's nice and humanly to see Texac getting a second chance out of this anyways.

No, it's like asking if a fake ID can be trusted. You obviously want to trust it so go ahead, others don't so they won't. My condolences if that's considered "centralized" in the alternate universe of plagiarising sockpuppeting ICO bumpers.

[LoyceV]

This is like asking other people's if I can sell my own property or not ! Horribly centralized indeed.

No, it's like asking if a fake ID can be trusted.

I don't have much of a problem with account sales itself (and I don't think I've ever tagged someone for it). The main problem is pretending to be someone you're not.
You won't tell your neighbours they can't sell their next door property, but you'd like to know when it happens.

[COVID-19]

This is an open message to Suchmoon in regard to the negative feedback he left me. I suppose I'm on ignore, if someone can quote this post I would be grateful.

Hey Suchmoon.
I am writing here only to defend my position.
Will not bother you anymore.

I saw this thread > Spotted this guy selling his Hero account!
There was no clear evidence that this particular account was for sale, as you stated and notice the 3 neutral tags as well.
I decided to lend a hand in the investigation and sent a message to the seller.
Here it is:

Hey there,
Got a message on TG that you are selling your account, I want to buy it.
Use escrow?

Regards,
COVID-19

After I received a response from the user, I added you to the conversation as " the escrow" so you get the real proof for yourself and tag the account.
I guess the second message I sent you wasn't clear enough and you got confused that I'm actually buying the account, but I was referring to the answer of the seller as the "proof", and enough evidence to be tagged.
My mistake was that I didn't check the thread again, before I sent you the PMs.
One have to be very dumb to use the person who tagged the account for escrow, don't you think?
I could use one of the active ones like Og, MJ, DS_ or Krogo.

I wanted to make things clear to you.
Thank you for taking the time and reading this.

Regards,
COVID-19

[suchmoon]

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Doesn't make any sense. I didn't ask for proof of the attempt to sell the account. And Texac had already admitted it anyway.

What you did was offer Texac to buy the account and told him that I'll escrow it. Which I would never do. That's what the red trust is for.

[The Cryptovator]

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Does it mean that you had been trying to catch account seller red handed? But unfortunately seller already admitted it here. If this was your intention then you should inform suchmoon before communicate with the seller if he is agree or not. Or you should inform some other user who are active on this thread. Since you are unable to prove yourself innocent and you aren't trusted enough that's why you got negative feedback. Main thing you shouldn't involved suchmoon as a escrow.

For your information, Texac admitted here when he cought red handed to me. Although I don't need to prove that I had been trying to catch him and act like a account buyer but I informed via forum PM to @dkbit98 in advance that I am going to talk with Texac about account if he really want to sell it. So you should do same thing. I am against of account sales from beginning because I know how hard a build account and buyers could misuse it in future.

[COVID-19]

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Doesn't make any sense. I didn't ask for proof of the attempt to sell the account. And Texac had already admitted it anyway.

What you did was offer Texac to buy the account and told him that I'll escrow it. Which I would never do. That's what the red trust is for.

Fear enough. Just don't get the wrong impression that I wanted to buy the account.

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Does it mean that you had been trying to catch account seller red handed? But unfortunately seller already admitted it here. If this was your intention then you should inform suchmoon before communicate with the seller if he is agree or not. Or you should inform some other user who are active on this thread. Since you are unable to prove yourself innocent and you aren't trusted enough that's why you got negative feedback. Main thing you shouldn't involved suchmoon as a escrow.

For your information, Texac admitted here when he cought red handed to me. Although I don't need to prove that I had been trying to catch him and act like a account buyer but I informed via forum PM to @dkbit98 in advance that I am going to talk with Texac about account if he really want to sell it. So you should do same thing. I am against of account sales from beginning because I know how hard a build account and buyers could misuse it in future.

That is exactly what I did.I sent the second message only with the information that he would receive his proof.
The feedback is not important because I will not trade here, nor am I interested in signature campaigns. It's just a matter of reputation.