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June 27, 2020, 06:52:01 AM
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I think the economy is a management tool in the hands of the government. After all, the government takes all decisions taking into account the current situation on the country's market and regulates this situation by issuing various resolutions. In a crisis and taking into account the economic decline, the government takes forced measures and this can cause inflation and other negative consequences for countries.

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June 27, 2020, 07:09:35 AM
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I think the economy is a management tool in the hands of the government. After all, the government takes all decisions taking into account the current situation on the country's market and regulates this situation by issuing various resolutions. In a crisis and taking into account the economic decline, the government takes forced measures and this can cause inflation and other negative consequences for countries.

Before the governments the economy was the tool of the Kings of every country. Even now many countries still have very wealthy kings, most of the times with limited powers. So in the end the government is just the aggregation of all the people in a country. Without such a pooling of powers by a government, the people would look very bad compared to other countries.

There might some bad consequences from the government, but without it, it would be even worse.
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June 27, 2020, 08:11:11 AM
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I still find it hard to wrap my head over the fact that most economist analyst is aware that continuous printing of money is deterrent to the economy and quality of life in the long-run, but still, the government keeps issuing endless bills. It's not my desire to politicize my views but ideally, economists should run most of the economic policies but it seems the economist is only a remote control tool used by the government to achieve political interest.

It seems the world now runs policies for immediate gains while trashing policies that bring future gains. Maybe I am having a distorted view, but looking at most government policies around the world, even a non-economist can tell that this will be disastrous in the future.
You said it your self, printing money is going to affect the economy badly in the long run. But the government is thinking about the short run. They know that bad affects that is going to take place, but to win peoples support they need show that they are fixing the economy. Thus, they start taking those stupid decisions. So, I guess they use economy as a political tool which they never should. But, yeah they are corrupted af and doesn't care about anything as long as they hold the power.
Don't forget the elections, Trump is probably everything he can to delay the effects of a possible recession during his mandate. If the recession strikes before the election he will probably lose them since his major achievement was about the economy.



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June 27, 2020, 08:12:54 AM
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I think the economy is a management tool in the hands of the government. After all, the government takes all decisions taking into account the current situation on the country's market and regulates this situation by issuing various resolutions. In a crisis and taking into account the economic decline, the government takes forced measures and this can cause inflation and other negative consequences for countries.

Before the governments the economy was the tool of the Kings of every country. Even now many countries still have very wealthy kings, most of the times with limited powers. So in the end the government is just the aggregation of all the people in a country. Without such a pooling of powers by a government, the people would look very bad compared to other countries.

There might some bad consequences from the government, but without it, it would be even worse.

Who controls the money control the country. Kings or presidents, it's the same thing for me, with a different name. Economy is a tool, and it can be used for good or bad, depending on which hands control it, and personally I don't think it's used for good, at least not for the majority of the world population. I think the economy should serve all of us, not just some people like politicians and kings.



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June 27, 2020, 02:31:04 PM
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Some maybe yes, but some maybe not. But as far as I can see, some countries are really taking advantage of this pandemic to properly manipulate its people and control how things go. Politicians are using this pandemic to help people and have a good image so that when the next election comes, people will vote for them.

But that's an old style of a campaign, helping people during crisis is really a cliche thing that most of the politicians are doing.

They are using this pandemic to steal a lot of money. I'm not saying that all of the government officials are doing this but still a lot of them are corrupt. They are not properly allocating the money that they are holding or borrowing from World Bank, or the budget that supposed to be used in a health sector and for the community.
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June 27, 2020, 03:43:14 PM
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i think so, this economic condition just to be political tools

It is just because government are really rooting for a full control of the people, that's why they are taking advantage of this pandemic. I know that it is hard for us to survive this pandemic but the government should help us properly and give reasonable support to sustain our lives during this pandemic, especially those people who are really in need. Politics should not be the focused right now by the government, they should prioritize humanity because if you help people during this pandemic. They will take this opportunity to give thanks to you and earn their trust especially that people are the one who are voting those political positions during elections. As the governments are doing their best to help the economy recover, they should also help the community.

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June 27, 2020, 05:04:35 PM
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The continuous printing of money hampering the economy and quality of life in the long run will be true if the country is experiencing normal conditions and not an exceptional situation.
The comprehensive closure and social divergence created an exceptional situation that made some solutions that were bad in the past the best solutions in the present and made the printing of money a sound solution so as not to stagnate and people fail to buy and sell, they are the best solutions and they have no harm because it is an exceptional situation.
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June 27, 2020, 10:22:53 PM
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I would like to convey my own opinion and information about the subject you are talking about a little and the information about the subject you are talking about. First of all, as long as free cash is continuing, long-term economic problems will arise, and most importantly, inflation will increase unexpectedly. Although this is known not only by economists but by many, there is a fact that the world economy is no longer shaped by the economic conditions or the moves of the central banks. Politics has become a very effective weapon for the change of economic conditions today and all economic conditions that can occur with politics can change. That is why it has been very difficult to predict the future of economic conditions. Even the smallest political events affect the markets and the world economy, causing the economic balance to shake.
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June 28, 2020, 03:31:40 AM
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Almost all state leaders use the economy as a political tool to find the sympathy of the people. But not everyone can use
economy as a political tool, but only people who have power can afford it. And many dirty leaders are using the economy
as a political tool won the election. Which in the end after being elected, the leader use of power for corruption. Actually it
is better not to use the economy as a political tool in my opinion, because many are misused by politicians.

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June 28, 2020, 03:44:24 PM
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Economists are part of the government too and they are abreast of the impact of their involvement on the future economy. Let me also tell you that every government have contingency plan but in some cases that there are crisis with no one certain when the crisis will stop and the overall effect on the economy, there is need to take quick actions that might reduce the present effect of the crisis on the economy. You are talking about future plan when no one has better alternative that might solve present economy condition.
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June 28, 2020, 06:13:10 PM
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It's not my desire to politicize my views but ideally, economists should run most of the economic policies but it seems the economist is only a remote control tool used by the government to achieve political interest.

It seems the world now runs policies for immediate gains while trashing policies that bring future gains. Maybe I am having a distorted view, but looking at most government policies around the world, even a non-economist can tell that this will be disastrous in the future.
That’s what it is, you can’t question the government on the decisions they make, they do whatever pleases and don’t care if it’s affecting the people or not. They go in there with promises that they are going to make the country a better place, but when they go in they make it even worse than it used to be. And this is a serious case in the developing countries, and you know why? These countries are already in a bad condition and still struggling to grow, but their governments keeps messing things up.

These are the countries that are going to be facing the consequences more than the countries that are developed. For the people whose government is not planning/working for their betterment, bitcoin must be a savior for them because it will at least help them to save their hard earned money in most secured way and also bitcoin is a proven tool against hyperly inflated fiats.
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June 28, 2020, 06:19:57 PM
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The easiest solution to get rid of this problem is to print more cash.
You need to bring the economy and life back to normal as soon as possible and to compensate all the people who have been affected by the policies of social separation, the easiest solution is to print more cash.
It will lead to many problems in the future, but it is the only solution currently proposed.
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June 30, 2020, 06:51:59 PM
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I still find it hard to wrap my head over the fact that most economist analyst is aware that continuous printing of money is deterrent to the economy and quality of life in the long-run, but still, the government keeps issuing endless bills. It's not my desire to politicize my views but ideally, economists should run most of the economic policies but it seems the economist is only a remote control tool used by the government to achieve political interest.

It seems the world now runs policies for immediate gains while trashing policies that bring future gains. Maybe I am having a distorted view, but looking at most government policies around the world, even a non-economist can tell that this will be disastrous in the future.
You said it your self, printing money is going to affect the economy badly in the long run. But the government is thinking about the short run. They know that bad affects that is going to take place, but to win peoples support they need show that they are fixing the economy. Thus, they start taking those stupid decisions. So, I guess they use economy as a political tool which they never should. But, yeah they are corrupted af and doesn't care about anything as long as they hold the power.
Politicians by nature are extremely shortsighted, they care only about getting elected themselves, getting reelected if possible under the rules of the political system of the country, getting their party elected, getting all the credit when something good happens and not getting any blame if something bad happens, so they do not really care about the long term economic health of the country as long as it does not happens on their watch, that way they can always put blame on another politician and get elected again, it is an incredibly simple way to do things and yet people fall over and over again in the same trick.
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The easiest solution to get rid of this problem is to print more cash.
You need to bring the economy and life back to normal as soon as possible and to compensate all the people who have been affected by the policies of social separation, the easiest solution is to print more cash.
It will lead to many problems in the future, but it is the only solution currently proposed.

Depending on how chronic a country's economic slowdown and the use of printed money. If the economic recession is in a mild stage like China, printing money with a guarantee of layered productive projects. If the economic condition is chronic then the medicine must be added with the Sovereign Wealth Fund and the role of pressing the government as a regulator of the economy in order to be able to drive the national economy fairly.

So before printing money the project must be prepared first. If it prints money and does not increase the production sector, there will be a mismatch that causes inflation. When inflation cannot be controlled the government will lead to depression. Printing money for social assistance and direct cash assistance during a pandemic is a fatal mistake.

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Your words are true, the continuous printing of money impedes the economy and may cause inflation and the collapse of the economy if there is no real value for this money such as gold or commodities or others, but I do not think that the government issuing bills has anything to do with the matter.
usually the central bank of any country is the one that issues These recommendations are implemented by the government, of course when politicians intervene in the economy a lot of problems occur because such serious decisions may be taken for a political reason rather than an economic reason and this will lead to serious consequences for the economy.

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Your words are true, the continuous printing of money impedes the economy and may cause inflation and the collapse of the economy if there is no real value for this money such as gold or commodities or others, but I do not think that the government issuing bills has anything to do with the matter.
usually the central bank of any country is the one that issues These recommendations are implemented by the government, of course when politicians intervene in the economy a lot of problems occur because such serious decisions may be taken for a political reason rather than an economic reason and this will lead to serious consequences for the economy.

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    Now everything is just a political tool in hands of the party that wins election. In my country it's like that, and I believe in
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Due to the weak system of government political leaders have intervened and almost everything is now corrupt The country's economy is being hampered by politics. The intervention of political leaders has led to inflation in the country which is most effective in destroying the economy However, the country's economy will not be hampered if it is run in a decentralized manner without a central system to improve the economy In this case there will be no political interference.

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The large majority of the world's economists share your view on this and they warned governments about the future impact of this "toilet paper" money printing policies. The debt incurred will not even be settled in 2 or 3 generations from now and our children's children will be stuck with the debt we are creating now.  Angry Angry

I think many of these politicians just do this to manipulate their voters into voting for them by creating a "fake" sense of well being and security to hide the real dragon that will feast on the generations to come. (Most of these politicians will be dead by them, so they do not care about this or the legacy that they leave behind.)   Angry Angry

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I still find it hard to wrap my head over the fact that most economist analyst is aware that continuous printing of money is deterrent to the economy and quality of life in the long-run, but still, the government keeps issuing endless bills. It's not my desire to politicize my views but ideally, economists should run most of the economic policies but it seems the economist is only a remote control tool used by the government to achieve political interest.

It seems the world now runs policies for immediate gains while trashing policies that bring future gains. Maybe I am having a distorted view, but looking at most government policies around the world, even a non-economist can tell that this will be disastrous in the future.

Economists give advise,but the politicians are making the decisions.Most of their decisions are only about gaining support in the society and wining the elections.That's why the political system of democracy is stimulating short term decisions(or policies for immediate gains,like you wrote).The people want less taxes and more government spending,so the politicians give the people what they want,in order to be reelected.This means higher budget deficits and money printing by the central banks.The economists know that this is dangerous for the global financial system,but they don't have the power and authority to influence the politicians and change their minds.

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Due to the weak system of government political leaders have intervened and almost everything is now corrupt The country's economy is being hampered by politics. The intervention of political leaders has led to inflation in the country which is most effective in destroying the economy However, the country's economy will not be hampered if it is run in a decentralized manner without a central system to improve the economy In this case there will be no political interference.
If so, things might work well if there's no interventions coming from corrupt officials, but facts remained
as there's none and everything works with this kind of industry.
There are many politicians who still in control and the allocations of the government budgets still being
used by those leaders from their personal gains.
If decentralized will be implemented and it will work independently, then this corrupt ways of system
will be change.



It's still the politicians that controlling and managing the entire process, with this kind of system it will
continue being corrupted in anyhow.

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