Scammer/Impersonator hip3r/bizoxi/elmanchez

[bob123]

Yes, accpeting that, i'm doing business with @hip3r last week, he is buying Neteller/Skrill and selll USDT,QIWI,WMZ,Payooner, everything is clear.
His bitcointalk name is @hip3r

This seems a bit weird to me.
How were you able to do business with hip3r (bitcointalk account) with the telegramid @hip3r last week when he just registered less than 3 days ago ?

I think there's some confusion here.  I believe that elmanchez is saying he's traded with @hip3r, not the OP.

No confusion here. That's exactly what i wanted to be sure of because the story seems fishy.

So it is confirmed that @hookgo is your telegram username elmanchez ?

He just confirmed it:

@elmanchez, did you contact the OP on Telegram, and are you Telegram user @hookgo?

Right!
~snip~

[elmanchez]

Yes, accpeting that, i'm doing business with @hip3r last week, he is buying Neteller/Skrill and selll USDT,QIWI,WMZ,Payooner, everything is clear.
His bitcointalk name is @hip3r

This seems a bit weird to me.
How were you able to do business with hip3r (bitcointalk account) with the telegramid @hip3r last week when he just registered less than 3 days ago ?

I think there's some confusion here.  I believe that elmanchez is saying he's traded with @hip3r, not the OP.

No confusion here. That's exactly what i wanted to be sure of because the story seems fishy.

So it is confirmed that @hookgo is your telegram username elmanchez ?

He just confirmed it:

@elmanchez, did you contact the OP on Telegram, and are you Telegram user @hookgo?

Right!
~snip~

I called him from the other forum bitalk.org , and say to him he can do his bussines also in this forum

[Boombl4]

I will never refuse to provide any screenshots dont try to talk behalf me.
The interesting part is that your previous posts and google says ur telegram was same as your username, and you contacting everyone from unknown telegram not
Insert FlashInsert ImageInsert HyperlinkInsert EmailInsert FTP Link|Insert TableInsert Table RowInsert Table Column|SuperscriptSubscriptTeletype|Insert CodeInsert Quote|Insert Listnoted anywhere so we can verify you.
Also asking for your bro to be escrow? Cmon man You and your friends just failed to scamm me. Ofc you will claim you had previous deals with your scamming newbie profile to cover your ass from being caught.
Also, where is your bro yo post here? Do you guys often do shady deals with different telegrams? And since when talking on telegram for deals is illegal ?
99.99% on the forums contact people thru telegram for faster respond and communication on the hardware and  exchange secti9n. If that were really you why you are lying others and trying to put your bros to help you out?
Is that how green trust members operates now? They making accounts with friends, exchange reps and then using them as escrow? Nice nice...

Just to show that he is lying: https://prnt.sc/t7jn7p

[bob123]

@elmanchez

If you met him on another forum and he indeed is honest, why don't you then just finish the trade (assuming OP still wants to do that of course)?
Just use an reputable escrow (doesn't have to be DireWolfM14, if OP doesn't want to).

If OP is still willing to do it, you could easily show your good will and clear up all misunderstandings.


Shouldn't all parties be happy with that?

[Boombl4]

@elmanchez

If you met him on another forum and he indeed is honest, why don't you then just finish the trade (assuming OP still wants to do that of course)?
Just use an reputable escrow (doesn't have to be DireWolfM14, if OP doesn't want to).

If OP is still willing to do it, you could easily show your good will and clear up all misunderstandings.


Shouldn't all parties be happy with that?

Please, check the screenshot from my very last post

[DireWolfM14]

I will never refuse to provide any screenshots dont try to talk behalf me.
The interesting part is that your previous posts and google says ur telegram was same as your username, and you contacting everyone from unknown telegram not
Insert FlashInsert ImageInsert HyperlinkInsert EmailInsert FTP Link|Insert TableInsert Table RowInsert Table Column|SuperscriptSubscriptTeletype|Insert CodeInsert Quote|Insert Listnoted anywhere so we can verify you.
Also asking for your bro to be escrow? Cmon man You and your friends just failed to scamm me. Ofc you will claim you had previous deals with your scamming newbie profile to cover your ass from being caught.
Also, where is your bro yo post here? Do you guys often do shady deals with different telegrams? And since when talking on telegram for deals is illegal ?
99.99% on the forums contact people thru telegram for faster respond and communication on the hardware and  exchange secti9n. If that were really you why you are lying others and trying to put your bros to help you out?
Is that how green trust members operates now? They making accounts with friends, exchange reps and then using them as escrow? Nice nice...

Just to show that he is lying: https://prnt.sc/t7jn7p

I can only offer my assurance that if I were involved both parties would have been safe, regardless of my relationship with one or the other.

Nevertheless, I understand your suspicion.  There does seem to be something weird going on, but I'm not sure what yet.  For now I'm going to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.  I do, however take exception to your accusation that I'm somehow a party to a scam attempt.  I have not been contacted for an escrow request, and I am in way coordinating with elmanchez to facilitate a scam.

[Boombl4]

More lies from elmanchez? https://prnt.sc/t7kfb5
Seems like this guy is either stacking his victims to scam and call other people with bad names to stick them together and scam quit or something is wrong here.
Someone here is lying and i will find out who tried to scam me

[suchmoon]

I don't know what's going on here, or why I'm being dragged into this, but no one contacted me for escrow.  If elmanchez had contacted me for escrow for a currency exchange, I would have happily obliged.  Yeah, I said I like him, and I still do, so why wouldn't I help him trade safely?

He gets entangled in an extraordinary number of shady deals though. That's either very bad luck or perhaps some actual correlation.

[Boombl4]

Seems like many people are involved in this scam.
From newbies to trusted, legendary members and green trusted.
Just received some "feedback" on my profile that i never have spoken or dealt with.
Friend of elmanchez or Wolf, i can't be sure but abusing the trust system is not something that you should prove your wrong or right...
So far i provide every evidence my eyes catch and check this out: https://prnt.sc/t7ko4v
I never ever spoken with the user who placed some feedback on my profile after i open this scam report: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317618

And this is coming right after the failed scammer i catch "elmanchez" feedback:
https://prnt.sc/t7kogo

elmanchez, if you were not guilty and legit, you would never spam and abuse the trust system with bullshits
There is a lot of proofs on this topic and people will decide.
Now same as your useless feedback, i will do just the same for you, place a feedback but at least mine will be proof based.

Once you were caught here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256818.0
And now you denying all your lies and scam attempts again ?
Dude, how come you trying to scam twice in row... Thanks god not successful.


Even if i end with red trust for no reason, i will expose this scam and i am pretty sure elmanchez is involved with the newbie here and DireWolf have nothing to do.
Seems like elmanchez tried to scam the newbie but he failed because the newbie provided me information that shows he never deal with him.
And elmanchez tried to close my eyes with lies which i expose with the newbie.
Elmanchez also used his DireWolf name to "threaten" me without Wolf's knowledge.
2 Scam attempts so far both failed.
But it is interesting his friends are tagging my account now because of this report which proves i am in the right way...
No one will make actions against me if they are not guilty...
That only proves i am in the right way..

Also interesting fact, why elmanchez using different telegrams to contact each person?
On his last scam report he says his telegram is same as his name here: https://prnt.sc/t7l2dm
But now, he contacting me, the newbie and everyone else with different telegram after saying 3 days ago he is not using telegram anymore....

[bob123]

He gets entangled in an extraordinary number of shady deals though. That's either very bad luck or perhaps some actual correlation.

This thread, together with the other thread is more than just suspicious.

Regarding the linked thread.. i mean come on.. Who receives a message saying "please send a message containing address X to account Y" and does exactly that.
This is either some kind of extremely stupid behavior or some kind of a reinsurance if you get called out (i.e. "i received the message and blindly did what the person i don't know requested").

I mean, alright. Benefit of the doubt.
But together with this here, i tend to believe it indeed was just a reinsurance for himself instead of just stupid behavior.

[Boombl4]

If he wasn't scammer, the newbie will never tell me that he never dealt with him.
Also, he deleted our telegram conversation so i cannot add more screenshots
Thanks to the newbie, i have more information that the newbie and him was never dealt
The more interest fact that elmanchez is meriting him and keep saying he had deal with him.
No matter his behavior and  failed scamm attempts should be taken serious.

[Boombl4]

At least all members from the scamming scheme will be exposed.
So far, i got few negative feedbacks for nothing from people that i never even know they existed before they placed fake negative feedback on my profile.
Right after i open this topic against hip3r and elmanchez  i received negative feedback from those alt accounts of the scammers:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2533861

[Boombl4]

Bump! elmanchez and his friend hip3r should be both tagged.
Enough proofs were provided.

[Lucius]

He gets entangled in an extraordinary number of shady deals though. That's either very bad luck or perhaps some actual correlation.

This thread, together with the other thread is more than just suspicious.

And it seems to me that there is something suspicious here, because too much has happened in a short time and some explanations are not very logical. I got a PM 4 days ago from elmanchez where he ask me for some PP - > BTC trade, although we have no history of trading nor have I publicly stated that I want such a trade.

There is nothing suspicious about this PM, but I think everyone should be even more careful when it comes to any trading - and especially avoid Telegram.

[Boombl4]

He gets entangled in an extraordinary number of shady deals though. That's either very bad luck or perhaps some actual correlation.

This thread, together with the other thread is more than just suspicious.

And it seems to me that there is something suspicious here, because too much has happened in a short time and some explanations are not very logical. I got a PM 4 days ago from elmanchez where he ask me for some PP - > BTC trade, although we have no history of trading nor have I publicly stated that I want such a trade.

There is nothing suspicious about this PM, but I think everyone should be even more careful when it comes to any trading - and especially avoid Telegram.

I believe there is nothing wrong with telegram because 99% of people using it here for fast communication.
The problems are actually different here based on the situation and the provided screenshot proofs.
A newbie claim for exchange, then comes elmanchez who work with him obviously covering his ass with Wolf as escrow.
In other place, elmanchez changed his telegram name week ago claiming he's not using telegram anymore but contacting me from some telegram without verifying, but thanks god in this thread he verified that he's the one contacted me.
In other hand, the newbie said he never dealt with this person as elmanchez claim because i caught their scheme.
It is obvious that elmanchez is trying to cover his ass with newbie account somehow and involving Wolf name as his "bro" to cover escrow services.
The only thing that elmanchez was going to lose if i didn't catch them was the newbie account which no one give a fuck about.
That kind of behavior should be punished and he should be tagged for suspicious activity and two failed scam attempts for the last month.

Not in last place, he's abusing the trust system placing false and fake negative feedback on my profile and also bring his other alts to do the same because i caught them.
If i were wrong and there is nothing like that, he would never do that and also use his alts to abuse the trust system and place fake negative feedbacks.

[orangelemon]

@elmanchez is a scammer
I have wrote in another Scam Accusation Thread against him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256818.msg54665537#msg54665537

@elmanchez's Email has been Changed recently.
I don't know why other Green Trust members still defend or showing trust on him

[Boombl4]

I know scams are not moderated but by ethical view point why no one tagging those scammres ?
Elmanchez and hip3r ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2822222

[Coin_trader]

I know scams are not moderated but by ethical view point why no one tagging those scammres ?
Elmanchez and hip3r ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2822222

I'm kinda interested on what escrow type you are explaining here https://prnt.sc/t7f28w? Is this some kind of a 3rd party app? It seems that you are insisting to used the escrow that you preferred and you even suggest to send BTC/USDT to you first.

I understand your point on accusing that he was scam because he called the escrow his "Bro" which even I will be  worry because they might set you up and you have any idea who the escrow is. But I believe Elmanchez said that to explain the "FREE" escrow fee that he offers to you earlier in your conversation.

DirewolfM14 has a loan business here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.0) in the forum and invested money more than the amount you are dealing. So there is no way he will scam you if ever the deal was made inside the forum.


The proof that he attempt to scam you is not that strong. You are just upset because the deal didn't go through in your preferred way of doing escrow and you easily jump into conclusion without checking the escrow he was referring because he called it "Bro".

PS: It will be really helpful if you can provide my request about your preferred escrow service.

[Boombl4]

I know scams are not moderated but by ethical view point why no one tagging those scammres ?
Elmanchez and hip3r ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2822222

I'm kinda interested on what escrow type you are explaining here https://prnt.sc/t7f28w? Is this some kind of a 3rd party app? It seems that you are insisting to used the escrow that you preferred and you even suggest to send BTC/USDT to you first.

I understand your point on accusing that he was scam because he called the escrow his "Bro" which even I will be  worry because they might set you up and you have any idea who the escrow is. But I believe Elmanchez said that to explain the "FREE" escrow fee that he offers to you earlier in your conversation.

DirewolfM14 has a loan business here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.0) in the forum and invested money more than the amount you are dealing. So there is no way he will scam you if ever the deal was made inside the forum.


The proof that he attempt to scam you is not that strong. You are just upset because the deal didn't go through in your preferred way of doing escrow and you easily jump into conclusion without checking the escrow he was referring because he called it "Bro".



PS: It will be really helpful if you can provide my request about your preferred escrow service.

I am not using any 3rd party app for sure, actually, if you check most of my posts, you will see i suggest people to use forum escrows.
And why would i not offer anyone to send me money first if he wants to? Is that crime or something bad? Or i am not allowed to handle trades by my self if the other party have no problem with it?
My point is not only that he wants to use his "bro" which as we can see he is not even close to his "bro" but the way that the guy lied and manipulated.
In first place he invites friend of him to be escrow, and then telling that he have done previous deals with that newbie.
After that, if you see the screenshots the newbie confirm that he never had deals with this person, and Wolf come in this topic saying he only had chat with this guy and they are not "bro's" for sure (from what i get).

DireWolf's name was removed from the topic as you can see because from everything we collected as evidence so far, it can be seen that elmanchez were "cleaning" his hands with Wolf and lying about deals in the past with the newbie.
Dealing in the forum and outside the forum is just the same if you deal with someone honest and not a scammer.
Scam reports are not moderated and even if you get scammed in forum with proofs or outside forum with proofs it is the same.
It is absurd to communicate and try to deal with newbie in the forum because of the restrictions for private messages per day/hour and so.
Everyone around using Telegram and that's not secret or something bad.
We all do need faster communication.
I am not sure why everyone around think that dealing inside the forum via private messages is more safe than dealing with the same person outside forum (telegram,skype,messanger or any chat program).

As you can see, no one cares about failed scam attempts from green trusted member, no matter is it off or on-site.
Those failed attempts are obvious.. Or i should wait him to scam me before i post this ?

[eddie13]

I am not sure why everyone around think that dealing inside the forum via private messages is more safe than dealing with the same person outside forum (telegram,skype,messanger or any chat program).

Becuse here their are records of proof of the conversation that your trading partner cannot delete or tamper with here on Bitcointalk.. On telegram either person can delete all of their messages at any time from both partie's chat screens..
Bitcointalk forum records are very highly trusted, provable, and automatically archived.. Telegram is not..


If you think telegram is just as good of a place to do business then why aren't you taking this to the telegram scam accusations board but instead are bringing it here?

If it didn't happen here often times their isn't much that can be done about it here..
Scammers can get away with a lot more on telegram than here.. That's why it's packed full of scammers and people get scammed there all the time and nothing can be done about it..