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qortal.org
Qortal Blockchain Project (wiki link)
Discord ‘QORT Project Official’ chat: Discord Chat

Decentralized Internet Infrastructure of the Future + New Coin Distribution Model/Method + Distributed secure Voting System + secure worldwide economic system + from scratch project



Downloads


** New version - 1.5.1 - massive sync improvements and more, new consensus kicks in Sunday May 9th!


Qortal Core
Qortal Core Downloads


Qortal Core Version 1.5.1 - with LTC trading live! (4.7.2021)

Windows Qortal Core Installer
Linux/Mac/Universal Qortal Core Zip

Qortal Core releases Github

links updated. May 7th 2021

If you don't know for sure you're getting the newest, check https://qortal.org - or check https://github.com/qortal



Qortal UI
Qortal UI Downloads


Qortal UI version 1.4.1 with LTC trading live! 1.4.1 bugfix for LTC sending (1.7.2021)

Windows UI Installer
Linux UI Installer
Mac UI Installer

Qortal UI releases Github

Check post below for alternate method of installing on linux, with our UI's custom .deb repository!



After 6+ years of development, the infrastructure of the decentralized Internet of the future is prepared to launch Phase 1 on June 29th 2020!
Active development started in 2016 with the takeover of QORA project. Since then, the QORA codebase has been completely re-written, leaving none of the original QORA code. A completely new platform is born, capable of re-building the Internet entirely, on a entirely unhackable network. Built by the people, for the people!



A Truly 100% Decentralized Concept Unlike Anything Seen Before

Not a single aspect of Qortal’s core as well as core plugins are centralized or require any centralized components. Every person on the network runs a core node and UI application on their individual systems, and accesses the network and services via their own computer.


Qortal’s First ‘Core Application’ is Completed: ‘Q-Chat'

Blockchain-based, Real-Time, encrypted chat platform! Q-Chat is Qortal’s first demonstration of its application hosting aspect. It does not utilize servers for any reason as it utilizes a specialized tx type in Qortal, to send instant messages. Both GROUP and PM messages are possible.



On-Chain Groups System

The Qortal blockchain allows the creation of ON-CHAIN GROUPS WITH ADMINS. These groups can be either public or private, and can be used for multiple purposes. They can be utilized to create 1) a group that is representative of a country for mitigation of illegal content in that country, 2) for those who need to or want to follow ‘the rules’, or 3) for things as simple as public communication groups. There is no limit to the use of the on-chain groups of Qortal. When a group is created, by default a chat in Q-Chat is created for that group. So you can immediately have communication with your group on the chain!


QORT Coin

QORT is the name of the Coin that is the ‘main coin’ of the system. QORT will be utilized to power a variety of plugins (applications) on The Qortal Network, and can also be utilized for trading value, etc. The value of the QORT coin is derived from the power of The Qortal Network, and will be reflected in the Trade Portal, and its markets.


Minting System with Leveling


The method of ‘powering the chain’ in Qortal, is called ‘minting’. Minting is essentially the way you ‘prove yourself as a full node and online’ so that you can be rewarded for helping the Qortal Network grow to obtain further strength and reach. Minting is the first leveling-enabled account type of The Qortal Network. Accounts will gain level on the chain, and be able to utilize that level for the voting system, and anything else in the future that the levels are given extra value to. For now, as you level up by minting, you gain a larger portion of the block rewards as seen below:


Levels 1+2 = share 5%
Levels 3+4 = share 10%
Levels 5+6 = share 15%
Levels 7+8 = share 20%
Levels 9+10 = share 25%


Founders
 are the people whom without the platform would not have been completed. There are a total of only 13 founders who share 5% plus the leftover % from any of the other level tiers that do not have users.

Original QORA holders
share 20% split between them which is based on the amount of QORA held and burned on QORA chain.



Name Registration System

On The Qortal Network, a user may choose to ‘register a name’. What this consists of, is tying a username to the user’s account. So that instead of using a long string of digits, someone may instead use their registered name to send coin, messages, etc. The name registration system will also be used in the future, for DOMAIN NAMES on The Qortal Network. Essentially it will be able to replace the centralized DNS system that the internet uses now.


Group Transactions

In a similar fashion to the method by which the auto-update transactions are carried out on The Qortal Network, other transactions may take place as well. A group can decide upon group creation, how many blocks until their transaction may be approved, and how long an unapproved transaction will sit on the chain unapproved before disappearing. They can also choose how many admins need to approve the transaction, in percentage. For example, in order for an auto-update transaction to be approved, 20% of the developer group on the chain, must approve the transaction within 1 day of the initial transaction being put up. If that doesn’t take place, then the transaction doesn’t ever go out, and the update doesn’t take place.



Asset Issuance

The ability to ‘issue assets’ is a portion of the system as well. A user may decide to create an asset for any given purpose, and issue it henceforth on The Qortal Network. Assets can be used for any number of purposes, including but not limited to re-building the Stock and FOREX trading networks...Securely.



Asset Trading

Inside The Qortal Network, once Assets have been issued, they will also be able to be traded, upon the completion of the Asset Trades Plugin. This plugin will be completed a short time after launch. With the Asset Trades Plugin, users may directly trade their assets within the Qortal Ecosystem, for QORT coins, and then to any other asset.


Inbuilt liquidity

QORT can be traded for other assets such as Litecoin - Now LIVE on the Trade Portal!



Completely Decentralized Cross-Chain Trade Portal

The Trade Portal of Qortal, (and what has given Qortal its name) is a ‘market’ where users may trade DIRECTLY from one blockchain to another. LTC is now live on the Trade Portal - trade DIRECT from LTC to QORT with NO THIRD PARTY utilizing cross-chain trades with CIYAM ATs.
Below is an image that explains the trade process in the Trade Portal.




Native LTC Support & Other Decentralized Coins

BTC/LTC/QORT now supported in WALLET, LTC is supported in Trade Portal.


Gen 1 Hardware Device Specifically Designed for Qortal

QORTector network security and node device completed - Gen 2 device complete now as well, for raspberry pi 4.


Blockchain Hosted Websites, Communication & Other Applications

This will come in Phase 3 of the overall launch (a few months after Genesis).


Community-Based Voting & Level System To Measure Influence

Voting system is planned for implementation in a future auto-update (a month or so after Genesis).


For The People, By The People With Endless Possibilities!




Background

The codebase for Qortal initially started as the QORA coin codebase. QORA had launched in 2014 and was completely custom written. Since the current team takeover of QORA in 2016, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REWRITTEN  along with the addition of many new features or previous features done in a different fashion.

So why is Qortal not QORA?


Unfortunately, there were a number of factors with QORA which made it less rewarding to pursue development opposed to the new Qortal. Factors such as a  slightly messy codebase that made development very difficult in comparison to what we have now and a convoluted amount of coins which devalued the project’s true worth (not to mention an unethical event where centralized exchanges lost QORA holder’s coins and a massive amount of coins remain ‘unavailable’). After considering the flawed aspects of QORA as well as Bitcoin today in comparison to the original white paper, Qortal has and will continue to be carefully designed to provide the world with a 100% decentralized blockchain concept that improves the way we make use of the Internet and blockchain technology!

In 2016, the Qortal team took over QORA development with plans to re-release QORA as QORA2. Qortal was originally conceived to be solely a 100% decentralized trade portal (utilizing ACCT ATs by http://ciyam.org/at ). However, as time went on, the decision was made to merge the two projects into a single, completely re-written codebase to be called Qortal with ‘QORT’ as the ticker for Qortal’s coin.


Qortal is a custom-written and decentralized (fully P2P in all aspects) platform with a core that is capable of a great multitude of functionality.

On top of that, a completely custom web-based user interface (UI) platform that is focused on ease-of-use and simplistic presentation will allow users to easily understand and make use of the complex core with little effort. It will be one of the only completely written-from-scratch projects in the blockchain space. This means it is not a clone of any other platform! There were certain aspects of QORA that were kept, however, nearly everything in the system is completely new. For the portions of QORA that were kept, they were improved upon however deemed necessary to enhance the functionality desired.[/size]


The First Of Many Great Ideas


Those who are in support of the concept of decentralization will certainly be interested in Qortal. The platform is meant to never contain any aspect of centralization! This includes never needing a centralized platform to provide essential services like trading and to be capable of more than any other P2P system that has come before it.

The platform will have a completely decentralized trade portal that allows completely p2p trades in a fashion unlike any done before. The trades actually take place DIRECTLY FROM ONE BLOCKCHAIN TO ANOTHER. There is no need for any centralized control, or even temporary ownership of user coins. The Trade Portal will allow AUTOMATED creation of SmartContract Controlled Trades, execution of trades in a similar fashion to a centralized exchange, with NO centralized aspect whatsoever. The Trade Portal IS NOW LIVE WITH LTC SUPPORT!


This platform may well begin the process of rebuilding the internet without any centralized control!


The implementation of a fair voting system that is based on contribution by users to the network and its usability by others seems to be the fairest way to ensure anyone can get involved without sacrificing the security and stability a truly decentralized project like this will demand. Especially when it comes to addressing illicit attempts on the network which need to be sanctioned or removed all together. There will be a ‘level’ system on certain account types which will allow the weight of votes to be based on the amount of input the user gives toward the overall system’s functionality and usability. No longer will votes be weighted and based on the amount of coin a user has. We don’t want any person or entity to have the opportunity to manipulate their way into this new design and potentially sabotage the good intent/stability of its conception!

In other words, with the creation of the custom leveling/influence system, comes the ability to build a truly decentralized community-run economic system within the network. The ability to create ‘committees’ of users focused on any aspect of the system that may require some sort of oversight, such as the concept of ‘illicit activity’ is also well within the scope of the platform’s functionality.


Qortal has REMOVED ALL RELIANCE UPON MONEY in terms of a user's 'influence' on the network. Never again will 'money=power'. Within The Qortal Network, users are only as influential as they decide to be, and input the effort necessary to become.

Qortal aims to be the new completely decentralized internet infrastructure, for the future world.


Qortal Hardware


The QORTector device is 100% open-source both in terms of hardware and software. We have 2 Generations of the Qortector available for orange pi prime and raspberry pi 4 -

Genesis Starts on Monday June 29th


Phase 1 – The Launch & Network Growth Phase

Phase 1 Launch Base Features

(items with * are not for sure yet)
  • QORT Coin (main coin of the platform)
  • Shared Minter Rewards (reward-share transactions)
  • QORTector Device (Gen 1) (http://wiki.qortal.org/doku.php?id=qortector_device_overview)
  • Minting & Rewards for Securing Blockchain
  • Minter Creation via ‘Sponsorship’
  • Leveling for Minters
  • Voting System Based on Level
  • QORA Asset / Transition at 250 QORA to 1 QORT Ratio (250:1)
  • Custom Web Based UI Platform
  • Simple Account Creation
  • Secure Access Through Local or Hosted Nodes
  • *Asset System for Asset/Token Creation*
  • *Asset Exchange for Trade of Assets to Qortal*(Trade Portal is QORT trade to other coins, assets are on-chain on Qortal blockchain and hence natively tradeable.)
  • *Built-in Block Explorer*
  • *Code Repo on Qortal Itself*
  • *Qortal Site Hosted on Qortal Prior to Public Hosting Options*


Project Launch Phases Overview


(All Phases after Phase 1 will be pushed in an auto-update to the system)

Phase 1(in progress and now on to phase 2)Genesis Network Launch, Minter Accounts with Leveling, Voting System, Basic Network Functionality, and Trading with LTC.
Phase 2 (current phase)  LTC/QORT market LIVE - Voting system for Taking votes and suggestions on next coins to list - in progress.
Phase 3pushed in an auto-update – Data Storage, Data Nodes, Data SuperNodes, Rewards for each based on fees paid by users of the storage, and Web Hosting for client side languages.
Phase 4pushed in a future auto-update – Blogs, Social Media, Communication with Rewards and Levels for content creators.


Features Planned and Status TLDR


Planned Update development status (complete / in progress / not started yet / completion & update estimate)

Trade PortalLTC active! - NOW LIVE

QrowdFund Decentralized Crowdfunding with LTC supportBack End and SmartContract Complete with automation of creation – Front End built in QORA; needs transferring to the new hosting method in QORTPlanned for after Phase 2 implementation. A previous QORA application and SmartContract system that allows for decentralized automated CrowdFunding. With added support for BTC/LTC thanks to native BTC/LTC support in Qortal.

Committees and FundsComplete . Allow users to create funds with shared contribution from Minters or creation of committees (groups) for various use cases within the system, clubs and so on.

Data Storage / Data Nodes and Data SuperNodes with Rewards Planned for Phase 3. Most of the back end work is complete. Rules and some UI work needed.

Decentralized Code Repo (on Qortal itself) Planned for Phase 3. ]Hosting the code repo on the platform itself for no reliance upon centralized services for code updates.

Public Decentralized GitHub Repo for Other Projects Planned around Phase 3. Hopefully the first ‘hosted app’ on the platform. Allowing others to utilize Qortal’s decentralized network for their GitHub repos.

Web HostingPlanned for after Phase 4. Allowing users to host websites on the decentralized network of Qortal. Utilizing the Data Nodes to store the data. Client Side languages supported first followed by support for Server Side; along with rewards for dedication of both space and computer power.

Blogs/Social Media with Rewards Planned for Phase 4. Allowing users to post blog posts and be rewarded for the content. Other users can vote on the content and increase the content creator’s level to receive larger rewards and higher influence. This also needs more thought for the details of the system as far as where rewards will come from/counterparts. Modification of block rewards may be necessary during this phase.

Application Hosting Planned for after Phase 4. (for non-core apps) Core apps are already supported, and first app 'Q-Chat' is live and will run on mainnet on June 29th This will be the support for applications hosted on Qortal; will require details regarding how every aspect will function as well as how server side hosting and sharing of CPU power/Data required will take place within the system.



QORA Transition


Since the current team took over the QORA development, it was decided that allowing QORA to ‘transition’ into QORT was appropriate. Users who held QORA will be able to ‘transition’ onto the Qortal chain and into the QORT coin; QORA will not be usable in Qortal. Burning QORA by sending the coin to the QORA genesis account enables users to obtain Qortal via the QORA Transition.

20% of every block’s reward, regardless of who minted it or whether the QORA Transition User is a minter or not, will be distributed to the QORA Transition Users. The amount of each 20% payment a user will receive is based upon the amount of QORA they burned (giving them a ‘weight’ as the 20% is split among the total amount of QORA Transition Users). The QORA asset on Qortal is given to the Transition Users to denote the total amount of coin they burned. At the point that the ratio of 250 QORA to 1 QORT (250:1) is reached, the transition is then complete and that user is no longer rewarded from that 20% of the block reward for every future block.

USERS WHO DO NOT BURN THEIR QORA PRIOR TO THE QORTAL PHASE 1 LAUNCH AND START OF THE BLOCKCHAIN WILL NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SO IN THE FUTURE! The information must be in the genesis block in order to be executed in a totally decentralized fashion. Therefore, the burn must take place prior to the launch.

QORT coin (Main coin)


Initial Block Reward is 5 QORT. Block reward occurs on an average of 60 seconds. This number will decrease every 6 months until reaching 2 QORT where it will stay unless voted to modify.
Reward Schedule and Reduction

Code:
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  { "height": 1, "reward": 5.00 },
        { "height": 259201, "reward": 4.75 },
        { "height": 518401, "reward": 4.50 },
        { "height": 777601, "reward": 4.25 },
        { "height": 1036801, "reward": 4.00 },
        { "height": 1296001, "reward": 3.75 },
        { "height": 1555201, "reward": 3.50 },
        { "height": 1814401, "reward": 3.25 },
        { "height": 2073601, "reward": 3.00 },
        { "height": 2332801, "reward": 2.75 },
        { "height": 2592001, "reward": 2.50 },
        { "height": 2851201, "reward": 2.25 },
        { "height": 3110401, "reward": 2.00 }[/size]


No Total Coin Cap on QORT, every ‘6 months’ there is a decrease in block reward from its start at 5 coins, by .25, until 2 coins is the reward. That is, unless a vote is made with the suggestion of an increase, which is also possible by submission of a proposal in the system and subsequent vote. The potential for an increase of up to 1 coin per block is possible via vote, however, this type of vote can only take place one time per ‘year’ (in blocks).


For More Information

To learn more about the Qortal Project, please check out the wiki page at: wiki.qortal.org as well as join us on Discord ‘QORT Project Official’ chat: JOIN THE QORTAL OFFICIAL DISCORD SERVER



community user https://github.com/CjMapope/QortSigs has created us a bunch of forum bbcode signatures open source free to use. Thank you!



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NEW linux UI repo for automatic updates and installation via apt

To install Qortal UI on Linux:

1. add the archive key:

Code:
   curl -sS https://lotw.qortal.org/lotw_pub.gpg | sudo apt-key add -

2. add the repository to your sources.list:

Code:
   echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://lotw.qortal.org/debian stable main"  | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qortal.list

3. update the package cache

Code:
   sudo apt-get update

install UI by doing:

Code:
  sudo apt-get install qortal-ui


**NOTE**
  If you installed the .deb from the Qortal UI release git, you dont have to do the above as it is already done automatically.


 You'll automatically receive update just like your normal linux packages and you'll also update by doing:

Code:
   sudo apt-get update



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 #3

GENESIS IS LIVE(as of 10AM Pacific time, June 29th 2020)




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[3rd maybe necessary reserved]



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Happy Genesis EVERYONE !!!
Can't wait for this great project to launch !!!
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  { "height": 1, "reward": 5.00 },
        { "height": 259201, "reward": 4.75 },
        { "height": 518401, "reward": 4.50 },
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Then the price of the coin will grow steadily by 10% per year.
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  { "height": 1, "reward": 5.00 },
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        { "height": 2851201, "reward": 2.25 },
        { "height": 3110401, "reward": 2.00 }[/size



Then the price of the coin will grow steadily by 10% per year.

The point of the coin, is to continually have new coins being made, we feel that a service token should always have new coins coming into the system, in order to reward the minters more, and keep the fairness of the system over time. Also, people have a tendency to lose BTC, etc... and if you have a set cap, what happens when too many people lose access to wallets?

We plan for Qortal to be running a LONG time, so we cannot have lost wallets become a cause for concern.



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Awesome. Nostalgia, good old days with QORA.
I regret that I sold all my QORA a long time ago. Better it was necessary to save them to get QORTAL, when it was possible.
When is the first Exchange planned?

Does QORA still have active nodes?
I would double-check all the old wallets, suddenly there is something left Cheesy


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June 28, 2020, 11:14:06 PM
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Awesome. Nostalgia, good old days with QORA.
I regret that I sold all my QORA a long time ago. Better it was necessary to save them to get QORTAL, when it was possible.
When is the first Exchange planned?

Does QORA still have active nodes?
I would double-check all the old wallets, suddenly there is something left Cheesy

QORA still has active nodes, but you can't burn anymore. Too late now.


As far as 'an exchange'... did you skip that part of the post? Qortal DOESN'T NEED AN EXCHANGE. The Trade Portal, completely decentralized, with BTC support, will be pushed in an auto-update, very soon after Genesis (Genesis is tomorrrow).



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June 29, 2020, 12:01:50 AM
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Awesome. Nostalgia, good old days with QORA.
I regret that I sold all my QORA a long time ago. Better it was necessary to save them to get QORTAL, when it was possible.
When is the first Exchange planned?

Does QORA still have active nodes?
I would double-check all the old wallets, suddenly there is something left Cheesy

QORA still has active nodes, but you can't burn anymore. Too late now.


As far as 'an exchange'... did you skip that part of the post? Qortal DOESN'T NEED AN EXCHANGE. The Trade Portal, completely decentralized, with BTC support, will be pushed in an auto-update, very soon after Genesis (Genesis is tomorrrow).
Really missed this post, just scrolled it. Time to sleep.
Well, that's great!


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Congratulations, this is an exciting time!
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Genesis launch is almost here.  Cool
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After 6+ years of development, the infrastructure of the decentralized Internet of the future is prepared to launch Phase 1 on June 29th 2020!

Congratz! Smiley
Excited to see what you came up with.
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Join the Qortal Discord fellas, ask questions. This is possible the best project to get involved with out of all the crap I been filter through here on bct.

https://discord.gg/zht6AmJ
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June 29, 2020, 04:13:48 PM
Last edit: July 09, 2020, 01:25:31 PM by mprep
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GENESIS set to take place in around 50 minutes (10AM Pacific time)





GENESIS set to take place in around 50 minutes (10AM Pacific time)



Code:
Broadcasting signed GROUP_APPROVAL transaction...
API response:
true

Genesis auto-update transaction approved



Everyone will be on block 1 until 10 more minutes passes and 10:00 AM Pacific hits



Block 2 is expected within next 60 seconds

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Launched and it is succesful!

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There is an issue with new 1.0.9 UI exe for windows, we are addressing it now.



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nice job,just mining.
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nice job,just mining.

glad you got it setup.


Will post new download to UI when new version is complete, should be a few min






Hello my love.

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"Connection to the Qortal Core was lost, is your Core running ?"



Get this error. I think Core is running. Do I need to add some nodes for connection?

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if anyone needs it, I have setup a hosted UI server @ http://node10.qortal.org:12388 for anyone who is having issues with current windows UI...

you can use this, with locally installed core, and everything will still take place local only - for anyone who is having issues with Windows UI installer while we are in process of updating to new version. You can  use this link above to access the UI.



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ok, now I have "blockheight 1 "  ... so its syncing I guess ... I just wait then?

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ok, now I have "blockheight 1 "  ... so its syncing I guess ... I just wait then?

If you see block 1, you just need to sync. yes.



ok, now I have "blockheight 1 "  ... so its syncing I guess ... I just wait then?

If you see block 1, you just need to sync. yes.


you can attempt to access the UI at - http://node10.qortal.org:12388 to get into your account. This is all still local only. Must have local core running in order for it to work.

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everything fine ... curius to see how it goes on  Smiley

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sorry I do not want to be overly negative so forgive me-

But I am reading down that olympic-wallper size OP and I am not able to even find the info if this is PoS, PoW, or poop or whatever,
and neither can I find an emission schedule further than 5 to 2 coins block reward-

in 2020 and after a gazillion projects good and bad, shouldn't it be sort of standard to present the most pertinent info in a way comprehensible for someone who knows the crypto world?

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sorry I do not want to be overly negative so forgive me-

But I am reading down that olympic-wallper size OP and I am not able to even find the info if this is PoS, PoW, or poop or whatever,
and neither can I find an emission schedule further than 5 to 2 coins block reward-

in 2020 and after a gazillion projects good and bad, shouldn't it be sort of standard to present the most pertinent info in a way comprehensible for someone who knows the crypto world?



Maybe the problem is... You've seen too many 'shitcoin' launches.

If you READ, you might be able to figure out the answers you seek... as they are ALL There.


This project is NOT PoW, it is NOT PoS, it is NOT like anything else you've seen before.


This project is FROM SCRATCH. Completely NEW. Something that most people don't have the time, effort, balls of steel, etc... for... especially to wait over 4+years of active development IN SILENCE, to present a FULLY WORKING PRODUCT..



Apologies if the 'olympic-wallpaper' (as if that's actually a thing) size OP is 'too many words' for your brain to comprehend... I will spell it out for you...



1.  We are UNIQUE - we are unlike anything else that exists.

2. We are NOT PoW, PoS, or any of the other PoWhatever's you've seen before (refer to #1)

3. The platform is meant to be INFRASTRUCTURE for the internet of the future, that will be built on The Qortal Network, as opposed to the sloppy mess of TCP connections that is the internet we have today.

4. Qortal is ONE OF A KIND. You will not see anything like this anywhere else, and have not seen anything like it prior.

5. If you're looking to MINE, you're in the wrong place, as you can clearly see on our 'wallpaper' - we mention MULTIPLE TIMES - that we are not MINING, in Qortal, you MINT.

6. If you would LIKE TO BE A MINTER ON THE QORTAL NETWORK, that is fully free and able to take place, simply get into the Discord, or Q-Chat, and request that a level5+ minter, or a founder, sponsor you, then you simply run a FULL NODE, and you MINT.


I guess if you want a 'PoWhatever', we can call it 'Proof Of Online/LegitNode' (so I guess, it would be 'PoOLN') or maybe, we could call it 'Proof of Legitimacy' or 'Proof Of Intent', regardless of what we name it... all you have to DO... is BE A FULL NODE, BE ONLINE, BE SPONSORED, PROVE YOURSELF A SUPPORTING NODE OF THE NETWORK FOR 5 DAYS. Then, you become LEVEL 1 MINTER.

As you proceed to increase in proving yourself online every block, you obtain 'BlocksMinted' count increase. As this BlocksMinted increases, so does your level. The more you are ONLINE, LEGIT FULL NODE. The more you EARN, the LARGER PERCENT OF THE BLOCK REWARD YOU SHARE, the MORE INFLUENCE YOU HAVE on The Qortal Network.

If you're one of those, who is looking to 'throw money at something' and hope to become influential that way, you will find that means VERY LITTLE in Qortal.

However, if you seek to ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE, AND BE A SUPPORTING NODE OF THE NETWORK, and wish to be A MINTER, I can help you with that, and sponsor you to get you on your way.


Any other questions? Oh, the reward scheme... right...

Well, since you clearly need things spelled out specifically for you, here goes...


In Qortal, there is NO COIN CAP. The chain STARTS AT BLOCK 1 WITH 0 COINS. The MINTERS of the network (full nodes, online, sync'd, with minting keys assigned) are REWARDED EVERY BLOCK. Based on MINTER LEVEL, their rewards are larger or smaller.

i.e. If you're a level 1 minter, you will share 5% of the block reward, EVERY BLOCK, with EVERY OTHER LEVEL 1 OR 2 MINTER ON THE NETWORK.

As you increase in level, so does your reward, as you have continued to prove yourself a supporting active node, and thus, you are more trusted, and earn more. Once you reach LEVEL 3... You will share then 10% of EVERY BLOCK'S REWARD, with all other level 3 and 4 minters.


You see? There is no way I can give you whether we are PoW or PoS, since we are NEITHER. If you READ, you will see that. IF you refuse to read, you may interject with comments like this, and prepare for my responses. Wink

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     ⊙ decentralized infrastructure
    ..leveling and voting.
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If you READ, you might be able to figure out the answers you seek... as they are ALL There.


Apologies if the 'olympic-wallpaper' (as if that's actually a thing) size OP is 'too many words' for your brain to comprehend... I will spell it out for you...

Well, since you clearly need things spelled out specifically for you, here goes...

You see? There is no way I can give you whether we are PoW or PoS, since we are NEITHER. If you READ, you will see that. IF you refuse to read, you may interject with comments like this, and prepare for my responses. Wink

<3

Here is some expose:

I am not even questioning the technical validity of the project- it seems interesting to me, and I have seen a lot over the last 7 years I have been in the crypto space (incl. the original QORA and its decline) - how could I, I haven't looked unde rthe hood, but on first impression it looks like worth watching.

Neither am I in principal not willing to get into the technical nitty gritty of things.

My point is the style of presentation which is not done in a very comprehensible manner even for those skilled in the art (and don't reduce it to PoW vs PoS)

And, on inquiry, your response, which displays a scathing l33t-Geek arrogance of tech dudes so much in love with their own competence on their high horse that they expect everybdoy else to simply .. get it, or else be deemed of inferiour mental capacities..

Again, nothing about tech, but of presentation and style of community building, many a good tech has failed for not good community culture.

Still early, so you might want to reconsider your attitudes  Wink

Oh, come to think of it: I started looking for a whitepaper in the OP, and the longer I scrolled the more I felt being swamped with not very well structured minutiae and detail, so I did indeed not read the whole OP from first to last line, as you correctly assumed, because I was looking for a WP and a few concise points describing the whole thing.
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If you READ, you might be able to figure out the answers you seek... as they are ALL There.


Apologies if the 'olympic-wallpaper' (as if that's actually a thing) size OP is 'too many words' for your brain to comprehend... I will spell it out for you...

Well, since you clearly need things spelled out specifically for you, here goes...

You see? There is no way I can give you whether we are PoW or PoS, since we are NEITHER. If you READ, you will see that. IF you refuse to read, you may interject with comments like this, and prepare for my responses. Wink

<3

Here is some expose:

I am not even questioning the technical validity of the project- it seems interesting to me, and I have seen a lot over the last 7 years I have been in the crypto space (incl. the original QORA and its decline) - how could I, I haven't looked unde rthe hood, but on first impression it looks like worth watching.

Neither am I in principal not willing to get into the technical nitty gritty of things.

My point is the style of presentation which is not done in a very comprehensible manner even for those skilled in the art (and don't reduce it to PoW vs PoS)

And, on inquiry, your response, which displays a scathing l33t-Geek arrogance of tech dudes so much in love with their own competence on their high horse that they expect everybdoy else to simply .. get it, or else be deemed of inferiour mental capacities..

Again, nothing about tech, but of presentation and style of community building, many a good tech has failed for not good community culture.

Still early, so you might want to reconsider your attitudes  Wink

Oh, come to think of it: I started looking for a whitepaper in the OP, and the longer I scrolled the more I felt being swamped with not very well structured minutiae and detail, so I did indeed not read the whole OP from first to last line, as you correctly assumed, because I was looking for a WP and a few concise points describing the whole thing.



Crowetic has been working on this project for +4 years, paying the devs out of his own pocket afaik too, I think it's fair to say he's balls deep on this project - financially, time commitment, emotionally - the genesis was literally today, it's a really promising project, one of the best I've followed since I started with crypto in 2013. If he sounded a bit prickly about your feedback on the announcement, try and cut him some slack, this is a BIG moment in his life, a significant achievement to get this far and launch a genuinely innovative new platform, I think he will take any help he can get with marketing & communication in the future, Qortal is very community focused, core principles of decentralization, the stuff that excited most of us that got into crypto in 2012-14.
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Crowetic has been working on this project for +4 years, paying the devs out of his own pocket afaik too, I think it's fair to say he's balls deep on this project - financially, time commitment, emotionally - the genesis was literally today, it's a really promising project, one of the best I've followed since I started with crypto in 2013. If he sounded a bit prickly about your feedback on the announcement, try and cut him some slack, this is a BIG moment in his life, a significant achievement to get this far and launch a genuinely innovative new platform, I think he will take any help he can get with marketing & communication in the future, Qortal is very community focused, core principles of decentralization, the stuff that excited most of us that got into crypto in 2012-14.

yes I agree to all what you mention, so I'll be quiet. I understand the sensitivity, what I wrote was meant to be constructive criticism.

Good Luck with the project, maybe I'll get to run a node also!
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Crowetic has been working on this project for +4 years, paying the devs out of his own pocket afaik too, I think it's fair to say he's balls deep on this project - financially, time commitment, emotionally - the genesis was literally today, it's a really promising project, one of the best I've followed since I started with crypto in 2013. If he sounded a bit prickly about your feedback on the announcement, try and cut him some slack, this is a BIG moment in his life, a significant achievement to get this far and launch a genuinely innovative new platform, I think he will take any help he can get with marketing & communication in the future, Qortal is very community focused, core principles of decentralization, the stuff that excited most of us that got into crypto in 2012-14.

yes I agree to all what you mention, so I'll be quiet. I understand the sensitivity, what I wrote was meant to be constructive criticism.

Good Luck with the project, maybe I'll get to run a node also!

Yes, consider running a node, unlike PoS & PoW it doesn't require anything more than a commitment to run the software, no need to buy expensive mining hardware or a stack of coins to stake, you just get sponsored to start as a Minter (by someone over level 5), then everyone in a particular level shares a set % of the block reward, which increases as you move up through the levels, from continuing to run your node and passing uptime milestones. It's very fair, and the platform feature set is impressive!
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Cool project!
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Last edit: July 09, 2020, 01:26:26 PM by mprep
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If you READ, you might be able to figure out the answers you seek... as they are ALL There.


Apologies if the 'olympic-wallpaper' (as if that's actually a thing) size OP is 'too many words' for your brain to comprehend... I will spell it out for you...

Well, since you clearly need things spelled out specifically for you, here goes...

You see? There is no way I can give you whether we are PoW or PoS, since we are NEITHER. If you READ, you will see that. IF you refuse to read, you may interject with comments like this, and prepare for my responses. Wink

<3

Here is some expose:

I am not even questioning the technical validity of the project- it seems interesting to me, and I have seen a lot over the last 7 years I have been in the crypto space (incl. the original QORA and its decline) - how could I, I haven't looked unde rthe hood, but on first impression it looks like worth watching.

Neither am I in principal not willing to get into the technical nitty gritty of things.

My point is the style of presentation which is not done in a very comprehensible manner even for those skilled in the art (and don't reduce it to PoW vs PoS)

And, on inquiry, your response, which displays a scathing l33t-Geek arrogance of tech dudes so much in love with their own competence on their high horse that they expect everybdoy else to simply .. get it, or else be deemed of inferiour mental capacities..

Again, nothing about tech, but of presentation and style of community building, many a good tech has failed for not good community culture.

Still early, so you might want to reconsider your attitudes  Wink

Oh, come to think of it: I started looking for a whitepaper in the OP, and the longer I scrolled the more I felt being swamped with not very well structured minutiae and detail, so I did indeed not read the whole OP from first to last line, as you correctly assumed, because I was looking for a WP and a few concise points describing the whole thing.



Crowetic has been working on this project for +4 years, paying the devs out of his own pocket afaik too, I think it's fair to say he's balls deep on this project - financially, time commitment, emotionally - the genesis was literally today, it's a really promising project, one of the best I've followed since I started with crypto in 2013. If he sounded a bit prickly about your feedback on the announcement, try and cut him some slack, this is a BIG moment in his life, a significant achievement to get this far and launch a genuinely innovative new platform, I think he will take any help he can get with marketing & communication in the future, Qortal is very community focused, core principles of decentralization, the stuff that excited most of us that got into crypto in 2012-14.

Thank you for the support. Yes, I have been funding privately as well as leading the development, etc.


I come off as I come off, I mean nothing by it. I simply state facts. The facts are, your answers are in the post. (@original replying guy)

Yes, of course there is a LOT of info... this is a MASSIVE project. Even getting to the point I could actually relay the information without confusing everyone was difficult. We will improve as time goes on.


I don't care much for flashy nonsense, I care for facts.



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Oh yea, and... there is a new UI version released and OP is updated, enjoy!

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ORTAL
    ..Web and Application hosting.
     ⊙ decentralized infrastructure
    ..leveling and voting.
| https://qortal.org - Infrastructure for the future World
            Founder/current dev team lead
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We really did it. Hats off to all the developers involved in this project. We are live, now. Cool

I still remember when Polo delisted QORA, and then, the story of QORT began. A long time with lots of decisions, changes, ideas and a growing community of supporters to the project of all kinds. Awesome, I still can't really believe that I'm now minting actual blocks. It's a special moment. The QORT developers did an amazing job, so far.

I've set everything up, got my minting accounts from my old QORA accounts. The wallet looks nice and clean. What I really like is the API with the Swagger API Docs. This is lit, and it inspires programmers to build on QORT. Thumbs up! Can't wait for the trading feature to get released. Smiley

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July 01, 2020, 01:42:52 PM
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Auto-Update of core was completed. Network enhancements should give everyone more connections.



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July 01, 2020, 04:19:38 PM
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Just started minting! Excited to be a part of this project  Grin

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This is really a great project because is not based on greed and will bring
pure decentralization and soveregnity to people.

It will actually patch the flaws that were discovered in bitcoin and other pow and pos coins
and that is that you need big financial resources to participate in mining or staking
and are biased to centralization of power in long run.

This is only at the beginning and everyone can participate just by running the software on their computer.
A software that will take just few % of your CPU power and does not require
special equipment (hardware).

Congratulations to the developers and the whole team behind this to bringing this to life.

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July 02, 2020, 01:48:09 AM
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This is really a great project because is not based on greed and will bring
pure decentralization and soveregnity to people.

It will actually patch the flaws that were discovered in bitcoin and other pow and pos coins
and that is that you need big financial resources to participate in mining or staking
and are biased to centralization of power in long run.

This is only at the beginning and everyone can participate just by running the software on their computer.
A software that will take just few % of your CPU power and does not require
special equipment (hardware).

Congratulations to the developers and the whole team behind this to bringing this to life.


Your words humble and honor myself as surely they do to the team as well! Thank you. Smiley

Just allow us to 'work out a few kinks' in some things, and VERY SOON we will see something TRULY REMARKABLE. Let us GATHER AS ONE TO CREATE OUR OWN NEW WORLD. Let the RULES of the WORLD be HONEST and FAIR a TRANSPARENT SYSTEM that CAN NOT BEND TO MANIPULATION in any fashion.

Something HONESTLY ABLE TO BE CONTROLLED BY INDIVIDUAL (and SOVEREIGN/unhackable) INPUT.



I am EXTREMELY excited to continue to have the honor to present such a magnificent specimen as The Qortal Network to the world, and have had an extreme honor in the years it took for us to complete the planning and execution of the project's development. STAY TUNED!



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July 02, 2020, 10:51:22 AM
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please list stable coin to trade portal
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please list stable coin to trade portal

Listing a token would not be in the interests of Qort from what I understand.

Those stable coins are not true cryptocurrency "coins", they are tokens turned into place holders for some pre-determined fiat value.

Bitcoin will be listed from what I read.
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Last edit: July 09, 2020, 01:26:55 PM by mprep
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please list stable coin to trade portal

All in good time my son.



please list stable coin to trade portal

Listing a token would not be in the interests of Qort from what I understand.

Those stable coins are not true cryptocurrency "coins", they are tokens turned into place holders for some pre-determined fiat value.

Bitcoin will be listed from what I read.

The listing of coins/tokens will take place based on vote in the future. At first, bitcoin will be listed, then Litecoin and ETH.

We will then work out implementation of the voting system, for future coins to be voted in as the system was designed.


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July 02, 2020, 08:27:06 PM
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please list stable coin to trade portal

Listing a token would not be in the interests of Qort from what I understand.

Those stable coins are not true cryptocurrency "coins", they are tokens turned into place holders for some pre-determined fiat value.

Bitcoin will be listed from what I read.

The listing of coins/tokens will take place based on vote in the future. At first, bitcoin will be listed, then Litecoin and ETH.

We will then work out implementation of the voting system, for future coins to be voted in as the system was designed.


Ok so I understood wrong. It is tokens and coins.
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Ok so I understood wrong. It is tokens and coins.
Generally, everything is possible. But at the beginning, it makes total sense to add those cryptocurrencies which have big demand and liquidity. Also, it's a lot easier to list Bitcoin clones when you already have Bitcoin implemented than listing something completely new.

Generally, I like the idea of having the decision making process based on votes. As a suggestion, maybe it makes sense to combine funding with the implementation of voting based features and listings? Because that way, implementations with high demand can be easily determined AND developers receive compensation for developing features. Keeps the incentive high for everyone. Smiley

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July 03, 2020, 02:57:05 PM
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Ok so I understood wrong. It is tokens and coins.
Generally, everything is possible. But at the beginning, it makes total sense to add those cryptocurrencies which have big demand and liquidity. Also, it's a lot easier to list Bitcoin clones when you already have Bitcoin implemented than listing something completely new.

Generally, I like the idea of having the decision making process based on votes. As a suggestion, maybe it makes sense to combine funding with the implementation of voting based features and listings? Because that way, implementations with high demand can be easily determined AND developers receive compensation for developing features. Keeps the incentive high for everyone. Smiley


I don't know about charging for it, I don't think that will be within my overall vision, but we'll take a vote on that as well


We have pushed a small auto-update with mostly some overall networking fixes and other little things, network should begin updating shortly.



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I don't know about charging for it, I don't think that will be within my overall vision, but we'll take a vote on that as well
Just an idea, as I – as a developer myself – know that developers need some more than fresh air and sunshine to survive. Wink
But if it's possible to integrate features without this, great. Was just tossing around ideas. Smiley

I didn't really have the word "charging" in mind, more like donations, which could even inspire other developers to code for Qortal, giving incentive to grow the ecosystem with external applications. Kind of like a marketplace for things people want. With the difference that it's not coins which are traded, but services.


We have pushed a small auto-update with mostly some overall networking fixes and other little things, network should begin updating shortly.
I saw it! Like an hour ago, the qortal core's splash screen suddenly popped up on my desktop, again. Guess that was the update mechanism in action!

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Ok so I understood wrong. It is tokens and coins.
Generally, everything is possible. But at the beginning, it makes total sense to add those cryptocurrencies which have big demand and liquidity. Also, it's a lot easier to list Bitcoin clones when you already have Bitcoin implemented than listing something completely new.

Generally, I like the idea of having the decision making process based on votes. As a suggestion, maybe it makes sense to combine funding with the implementation of voting based features and listings? Because that way, implementations with high demand can be easily determined AND developers receive compensation for developing features. Keeps the incentive high for everyone. Smiley


I don't know about charging for it, I don't think that will be within my overall vision, but we'll take a vote on that as well


We have pushed a small auto-update with mostly some overall networking fixes and other little things, network should begin updating shortly.

How mine this?
quide for create minting account???
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Checkout qortal.org – there's a wiki with lots of knowledge.

To answer in short, you don't mine. In Qortal, we have a minting process similar to PoS, but you don't need coins at stake, you need a sponsor who sponsors you in order to convert your account into a minting account (which happens 7200 blocks later, so close to five days, I think).

Then, your level 0 account becomes level 1 and your account becomes part of the pool of level 1 and level 2 accounts, which share 5% of the block rewards (5 QORT each block).

The levels are (100% are 5 QORT, each block):

level 1 and 2: 5%
level 3 and 4: 10%
level 5 and 6: 15%
level 7 and 8: 20%
level 9 and 10: 25%

Hope that helps. Smiley

Edit: getting a minting account sponsored right now should be pretty hard, as there were only few level 5 accounts on the network after start. So you'll have to wait a few days until the slots are free again, after 7200 blocks have passed for the current sponsors.

Join the Discord, there's a room for everybody who wants sponsoring. Smiley

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Checkout qortal.org – there's a wiki with lots of knowledge.

To answer in short, you don't mine. In Qortal, we have a minting process similar to PoS, but you don't need coins at stake, you need a sponsor who sponsors you in order to convert your account into a minting account (which happens 7200 blocks later, so close to five days, I think).

Then, your level 0 account becomes level 1 and your account becomes part of the pool of level 1 and level 2 accounts, which share 5% of the block rewards (5 QORT each block).

The levels are (100% are 5 QORT, each block):

level 1 and 2: 5%
level 3 and 4: 10%
level 5 and 6: 15%
level 7 and 8: 20%
level 9 and 10: 25%

Hope that helps. Smiley

Edit: getting a minting account sponsored right now should be pretty hard, as there were only few level 5 accounts on the network after start. So you'll have to wait a few days until the slots are free again, after 7200 blocks have passed for the current sponsors.

Join the Discord, there's a room for everybody who wants sponsoring. Smiley

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vote ETH,BCH,LTC,ADA,EOS,XTZ,LINK,XLM,DASH,ZEC,MKR,XMR
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Suggestion: In the future, add a "dark mode" for the UI.  Cool
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Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help? 

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Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help?  

in settings.json

{
  "apiWhitelist": [
    "0.0.0.0/0",
    "::/0"
  ],
  "uiPort": 12390,
  "apiPort": 12391,
  "listenPort": 12392,
  "autoUpdateEnabled": true,   
  "apiDocumentationEnabled": true,
  "apiRestricted": false
}
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please list stable coin to trade portal

Listing a token would not be in the interests of Qort from what I understand.

Those stable coins are not true cryptocurrency "coins", they are tokens turned into place holders for some pre-determined fiat value.

Bitcoin will be listed from what I read.

This is retarded. Qort will list any junk u submit to them. They elucidated that listing cuckold coins will made simpler than ever before. It is a common misconception that tacky coins should be weeded out, for the sake of keeping corporate etiquette in which Qort has no interest. These guys are very open and will do whatever u command them to do.
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Qortal should not add shit coins to trade portal! Do not like to be like other scam exchanges. Only add top 5 coins if you must.



please list stable coin to trade portal

Listing a token would not be in the interests of Qort from what I understand.

Those stable coins are not true cryptocurrency "coins", they are tokens turned into place holders for some pre-determined fiat value.

Bitcoin will be listed from what I read.

This is retarded. Qort will list any junk u submit to them. They elucidated that listing cuckold coins will made simpler than ever before. It is a common misconception that tacky coins should be weeded out, for the sake of keeping corporate etiquette in which Qort has no interest. These guys are very open and will do whatever u command them to do.

I somehow want to agree to you. Crowetic looks like he will do anything you want. He keeps the top developers hidden and only come front and talk only. Who is in charge of everything in truth ? Only catbraf and dmax do the developing and now damx is not on Discord server why? Crowetic talk only and go back.

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I somehow want to agree to you. Crowetic looks like he will do anything you want. He keeps the top developers hidden and only come front and talk only. Who is in charge of everything in truth ? Only catbraf and dmax do the developing and now damx is not on Discord server why? Crowetic talk only and go back.

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Just new here so i have newbie question. How this network protects from 51% attack? It's not POW, POS.  How this "‘prove yourself as a full node and online’" looks in real life?

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Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help?  

in settings.json

{
  "apiWhitelist": [
    "0.0.0.0/0",
    "::/0"
  ],
  "uiPort": 12390,
  "apiPort": 12391,
  "listenPort": 12392,
  "autoUpdateEnabled": true,    
  "apiDocumentationEnabled": true,
  "apiRestricted": false
}

Thanks, I added it to the file. It is normal that the settings file is shipped empty  Huh

However, it does not work. Nor of the three ports are found after starting the wallet. Following is the content of log.txt.1 file:

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2020-07-04 20:07:09 INFO  Controller:270 - Starting up...
2020-07-04 20:07:12 INFO  Settings:181 - Using settings file: settings.json
2020-07-04 20:07:13 INFO  BlockChain:214 - Using default, resources-based blockchain config
2020-07-04 20:07:13 INFO  Controller:185 - Build timestamp: 20200505151835
2020-07-04 20:07:13 INFO  Controller:192 - Build version: qortal-1.0.8-bd0bc79
2020-07-04 20:07:13 INFO  Controller:291 - Starting NTP
2020-07-04 20:07:13 INFO  Controller:298 - Starting repository
2020-07-04 20:07:14 INFO  Controller:315 - Validating blockchain
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  Controller:324 - Our chain height at start-up: 1
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  Controller:332 - Starting controller
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  Controller:335 - Starting networking on port 12392
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  SysTray:59 - Launching system tray icon
2020-07-04 20:07:15 WARN  Translator:59 - Can't locate 'de' translation resource bundle for SysTray
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  Controller:355 - Starting block minter
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  Controller:365 - Starting auto-update
2020-07-04 20:07:15 INFO  Controller:369 - Starting API on port 12391
2020-07-04 20:07:16 INFO  Controller:422 - No NTP offset yet
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Suggestion: In the future, add a "dark mode" for the UI.  Cool

we will surely add a dark mode.



Qortal should not add shit coins to trade portal! Do not like to be like other scam exchanges. Only add top 5 coins if you must.

Right, we will not be listing shit coins.


BTC, LTC, and ETH are the only planned listings prior to the voting system being added.


(even though I believe ETH to be a shitcoin personally, that's beside the point. We will list them until people realize how much better Qortal is and move the good projects from ETH to Qortal.)




I somehow want to agree to you. Crowetic looks like he will do anything you want. He keeps the top developers hidden and only come front and talk only. Who is in charge of everything in truth ? Only catbraf and dmax do the developing and now damx is not on Discord server why? Crowetic talk only and go back.


Is this supposed to mean something to me? Try again.


By the way... the whole point of the project is for there NOT to be someone 'in charge'. So maybe adjust your flawed thinking, and come check the project again.


MRPD is mad because my devs couldn't be bought, he attempted to steal dmax from me and failed, when dmax told him to get bent. So now he comes in and feels entitled to having developers of our team's caliber without putting in any real effort. Too bad in order to find the best people, you have to not be a greedy fool only out for yourself. Maybe think about that next time MRPD.







Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help? 


Do you have Discord? If so get in contact with me and I'll help you get through it.

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I somehow want to agree to you. Crowetic looks like he will do anything you want. He keeps the top developers hidden and only come front and talk only. Who is in charge of everything in truth ? Only catbraf and dmax do the developing and now damx is not on Discord server why? Crowetic talk only and go back.


Is this supposed to mean something to me? Try again.


By the way... the whole point of the project is for there NOT to be someone 'in charge'. So maybe adjust your flawed thinking, and come check the project again.


MRPD is mad because my devs couldn't be bought, he attempted to steal dmax from me and failed, when dmax told him to get bent. So now he comes in and feels entitled to having developers of our team's caliber without putting in any real effort. Too bad in order to find the best people, you have to not be a greedy fool only out for yourself. Maybe think about that next time MRPD.





In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.
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Levels 3+4 = share 10%
Levels 5+6 = share 15%
Levels 7+8 = share 20%
Levels 9+10 = share 25%
How to make sure the voting system and result won't be compromised? There are 10 levels and 5 categories of share, 5% in minimum for levels 1 & 2 to 25% in maximum for levels 9 and 10. It means that last category (levels 9 & 10) has 5 times higher in received shares than the first category (level 1 & 2). People will try to move up to the higher and the highest categories ASAP.

It potentially causes many types of fraudulent voting activities on chain. I would prefer to learn more about the voting system and protective system to prevent any sort of compromises.

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Just new here so i have newbie question. How this network protects from 51% attack? It's not POW, POS.  How this "‘prove yourself as a full node and online’" looks in real life?

All Minters sign blocks that is proof they are online. There is no way to tell who is signing vs who is making a block until the block and TX is accepted by all nodes. From what I saw there are Zero Confirmations too so it is fully unhackable. I saw on discord that they consider the 1 block a confirmation. Most coins must lock coins for multiple confirmations so this would mean Zero Confirms the way those Crypto operate. Seeing that Qortal is different it may not even adhere to Normal standards and I hope to learn more.

So if you send a TX it is going to be written to the next block. Unless it is a Free Chat TX that never gets Confirmed and drops after 24 Hours. Great way to implement something and not bloat the Chain!
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Understood, thanks but I still don't know what if someone will start xxxx nodes? What is the mechanism that protects against privatizing network by obtaining the majority of nodes?

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Understood, thanks but I still don't know what if someone will start xxxx nodes? What is the mechanism that protects against privatizing network by obtaining the majority of nodes?

All nodes need to be sponsored before minting
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Last edit: July 05, 2020, 11:46:11 AM by allyouracid
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This is retarded. Qort will list any junk u submit to them. They elucidated that listing cuckold coins will made simpler than ever before. It is a common misconception that tacky coins should be weeded out, for the sake of keeping corporate etiquette in which Qort has no interest. These guys are very open and will do whatever u command them to do.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, tbh.

I somehow want to agree to you. Crowetic looks like he will do anything you want. He keeps the top developers hidden and only come front and talk only. Who is in charge of everything in truth ? Only catbraf and dmax do the developing and now damx is not on Discord server why? Crowetic talk only and go back.
MRPD is mad because my devs couldn't be bought, he attempted to steal dmax from me and failed, when dmax told him to get bent. So now he comes in and feels entitled to having developers of our team's caliber without putting in any real effort. Too bad in order to find the best people, you have to not be a greedy fool only out for yourself. Maybe think about that next time MRPD.
Edit: I also think you guys should keep this kind of talk out of the thread, maybe use the dm feature or the ignore button. We've barely launched and I can't imagine any universe where this is helpful in any way. Let's keep things clean and civil.
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Levels 1+2 = share 5%
Levels 3+4 = share 10%
Levels 5+6 = share 15%
Levels 7+8 = share 20%
Levels 9+10 = share 25%
How to make sure the voting system and result won't be compromised? There are 10 levels and 5 categories of share, 5% in minimum for levels 1 & 2 to 25% in maximum for levels 9 and 10. It means that last category (levels 9 & 10) has 5 times higher in received shares than the first category (level 1 & 2). People will try to move up to the higher and the highest categories ASAP.

It potentially causes many types of fraudulent voting activities on chain. I would prefer to learn more about the voting system and protective system to prevent any sort of compromises.
Also worth mentioning: it's going to take a very long time until anyone will even be able to reach the higher levels. I'm not sure about how long it takes for level 5 to reach 6 (maybe someone from the core developers can help out here... a table with that info would be nice!), and until that happens, the block reward will have declined quite a bit, and – hopefully – many others are running nodes, so the rewards are spread between many parties.

There are a few points which I can't pinpoint how they will play out. Much of the consensus in QORT is new, and I'm not sure if Cryptoland had projects with a similar approach. Things like "nothing at stake" come to mind, but talking to the developers, they've had plenty of arguments why it shouldn't be a problem, long term. Maybe one of them can drop a few words here. Smiley

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Also worth mentioning: it's going to take a very long time until anyone will even be able to reach the higher levels. I'm not sure about how long it takes for level 5 to reach 6 (maybe someone from the core developers can help out here... a table with that info would be nice!), and until that happens, the block reward will have declined quite a bit, and – hopefully – many others are running nodes, so the rewards are spread between many parties.
 

I just looked that up and have the link handy:

http://wiki.qortal.org/doku.php?id=qort_model_-_leveling_system

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In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.

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I just looked that up and have the link handy:

http://wiki.qortal.org/doku.php?id=qort_model_-_leveling_system

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Thanks! I've checked the code also (file: blockchain.json), and there (last line) it says:
Code:
 "rewardsByHeight": [
    { "height": 1, "reward": 5.00 },
    { "height": 259201, "reward": 4.75 },
    { "height": 518401, "reward": 4.50 },
    { "height": 777601, "reward": 4.25 },
    { "height": 1036801, "reward": 4.00 },
    { "height": 1296001, "reward": 3.75 },
    { "height": 1555201, "reward": 3.50 },
    { "height": 1814401, "reward": 3.25 },
    { "height": 2073601, "reward": 3.00 },
    { "height": 2332801, "reward": 2.75 },
    { "height": 2592001, "reward": 2.50 },
    { "height": 2851201, "reward": 2.25 },
    { "height": 3110401, "reward": 2.00 }
  ],
  "sharesByLevel": [
    { "levels": [ 1, 2 ], "share": 0.05 },
    { "levels": [ 3, 4 ], "share": 0.10 },
    { "levels": [ 5, 6 ], "share": 0.15 },
    { "levels": [ 7, 8 ], "share": 0.20 },
    { "levels": [ 9, 10 ], "share": 0.25 }
  ],
  "qoraHoldersShare": 0.20,
  "qoraPerQortReward": 250,
  "blocksNeededByLevel": [ 7200, 64800, 129600, 172800, 244000, 345600, 518400, 691200, 864000, 1036800 ],
How I understood it, it takes 7200 blocks after getting sponsored reaches you level 1, 7200+64800 level 2 etc... but the documentation says level 1 to 2 is 129600 blocks. I might have gotten something wrong, but I'm not sure. Smiley

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In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.


Don't get me wrong, I love arguing with people who will always lose the argument, but it's out of pure narcissism and I shouldn't do it... plus people tell me I shouldn't do it in public anyway, so yea. I'm going to be 'professional.' and not reply to the idiots anymore. OKAY EVERYONE? Okay. Weee, fun.



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In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.


Don't get me wrong, I love arguing with people who will always lose the argument, but it's out of pure narcissism and I shouldn't do it... plus people tell me I shouldn't do it in public anyway, so yea. I'm going to be 'professional.' and not reply to the idiots anymore. OKAY EVERYONE? Okay. Weee, fun.

You only a famous burstcoin scammer and not professional hippie man.It is not hiden from public https://www.reddit.com/r/burstcoin/comments/6cbz5r/exclusive_burstcoin_community_news_crowetic_got/ Who lose the argument to a scammer now hippie man.
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I am an original Qora ICO investor with a level 5 Qortal minting account, I am not associated with the development team behind Qortal in any way, what I write is my own opinion.

So far I have not sponsored anyone, and as it stands today, I don't think I will be for quite a while. This might sound harsh, but it is the truth, so far I haven't seen anyone here or on discord who deserves a Minting account that doesn't already have one, but I will continue observing, and if/when I see quality candidates I will gladly help them get established.

A Qortal Minting account is like an Asic miner, it earns money, but a minting account runs on regular hardware, doesn't burn much electricity, and will never become obsolete, so in every respect, a minting account is superior to a PoW miner, and the block reward is perpetual, so it will continue to generate income for as long as this project exists.

A Qortal minting account is as close to a crypto Willie Wonka "Golden Ticket" as I've seen, and IMO a Minting account is a very valuable "asset", not something that should be given away to a random person who posts their public key on discord, not unless they deserve it.

The more Minting accounts there are the lower the individual rewards for each Minter will be, so the game theory here is pretty obvious; a level 5 Minter should sponsor people that contribute to the ongoing development & growth of the project. This isn't NEM in 2014 where in order to bootstrap a community from nothing all that was required was posting "Interested" in a BTT thread, Qortal already has enough committed people to run nodes now!

Users of the Qortal platform don't need to run a Minter anymore than users of Bitcoin or Ethereum need to run miners; if you want to use the BTC or ETH networks you buy coins, and that's what will happen with Qortal, people who want to use the platform will buy coins on the market.

Every person I sponsor will eventually shrink the number of coins I Mint per block over the life of my Minter, guys getting sponsored today will eventually level up with me, and they'll reduce the number of coins I can Mint.

Minting is a competitive system. If someone adds something to the Qortal ecosystem, makes the value of the coin increase, then it's worth my while, I get fewer coins from Minting but they're worth more! BUT, if all you do is run a minter and shrink my income, and you don't add more to the ecosystem, what is my incentive to sponsor you?

I know a lot of people might not agree with me, and a lot of level 5 guys will sponsor anyone who asks, at least during this initial phase, and that's fine with me, but for those guys posting their public keys on discord, if you want to jump the queue I suggest "doing something", write a blog, send some tweets, add a Qortal signature etc make yourself standout, while the bar is still relatively low. In the future Minting accounts will be very valuable, given to family & friends only, or people who do A LOT for the ecosystem.

Remember, there was a time when a NEM stake that literally cost the recipient an "interested" thread post was worth +2M USD, I think a Qortal Minter account is MORE valuable than a NEM stake, but if you want one you need to earn it IMO, this isn't 2014, Qortal already has a lot of Minters who've been following this project for years.

Before people jump to attack me I'll tell you what I did to get my level 5 Minter:
- I ran a Qora node for years, even when it was "dead"
- I bought a bag of Qora from 2014-16, total cost +15 BTC, worth ~300k USD had I sold those BTC in dec 2017
- I followed all Qora communications for 6 years

I'm not expecting new guys to have as much skin in the game as I do to get sponsored, but I expect more than just posting your pub key on discord, otherwise, I have plenty of family & friends I can sponsor.

IMO it's no different to how "valuable" things work in most other areas of life, if a friend or family member asks me to give them something valuable I will always think "if there isn't a good reason to say NO, say YES", BUT, if a stranger asks me to give them something valuable it's a "transaction", a trade, or it's begging.




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I am an original Qora ICO investor with a level 5 Qortal minting account, I am not associated with the development team behind Qortal in any way, what I write is my own opinion.

So far I have not sponsored anyone, and as it stands today, I don't think I will be for quite a while. This might sound harsh, but it is the truth, so far I haven't seen anyone here or on discord who deserves a Minting account that doesn't already have one, but I will continue observing, and if/when I see quality candidates I will gladly help them get established.

A Qortal Minting account is like an Asic miner, it earns money, but a minting account runs on regular hardware, doesn't burn much electricity, and will never become obsolete, so in every respect, a minting account is superior to a PoW miner, and the block reward is perpetual, so it will continue to generate income for as long as this project exists.

A Qortal minting account is as close to a crypto Willie Wonka "Golden Ticket" as I've seen, and IMO a Minting account is a very valuable "asset", not something that should be given away to a random person who posts their public key on discord, not unless they deserve it.

The more Minting accounts there are the lower the individual rewards for each Minter will be, so the game theory here is pretty obvious; a level 5 Minter should sponsor people that contribute to the ongoing development & growth of the project. This isn't NEM in 2014 where in order to bootstrap a community from nothing all that was required was posting "Interested" in a BTT thread, Qortal already has enough committed people to run nodes now!

Users of the Qortal platform don't need to run a Minter anymore than users of Bitcoin or Ethereum need to run miners; if you want to use the BTC or ETH networks you buy coins, and that's what will happen with Qortal, people who want to use the platform will buy coins on the market.

Every person I sponsor will eventually shrink the number of coins I Mint per block over the life of my Minter, guys getting sponsored today will eventually level up with me, and they'll reduce the number of coins I can Mint.

Minting is a competitive system. If someone adds something to the Qortal ecosystem, makes the value of the coin increase, then it's worth my while, I get fewer coins from Minting but they're worth more! BUT, if all you do is run a minter and shrink my income, and you don't add more to the ecosystem, what is my incentive to sponsor you?

I know a lot of people might not agree with me, and a lot of level 5 guys will sponsor anyone who asks, at least during this initial phase, and that's fine with me, but for those guys posting their public keys on discord, if you want to jump the queue I suggest "doing something", write a blog, send some tweets, add a Qortal signature etc make yourself standout, while the bar is still relatively low. In the future Minting accounts will be very valuable, given to family & friends only, or people who do A LOT for the ecosystem.

Remember, there was a time when a NEM stake that literally cost the recipient an "interested" thread post was worth +2M USD, I think a Qortal Minter account is MORE valuable than a NEM stake, but if you want one you need to earn it IMO, this isn't 2014, Qortal already has a lot of Minters who've been following this project for years.

Before people jump to attack me I'll tell you what I did to get my level 5 Minter:
- I ran a Qora node for years, even when it was "dead"
- I bought a bag of Qora from 2014-16, total cost +15 BTC, worth ~300k USD had I sold those BTC in dec 2017
- I followed all Qora communications for 6 years

I'm not expecting new guys to have as much skin in the game as I do to get sponsored, but I expect more than just posting your pub key on discord, otherwise, I have plenty of family & friends I can sponsor.

IMO it's no different to how "valuable" things work in most other areas of life, if a friend or family member asks me to give them something valuable I will always think "if there isn't a good reason to say NO, say YES", BUT, if a stranger asks me to give them something valuable it's a "transaction", a trade, or it's begging.





I think it makes a lot of sense for the qortal network to get more people involved.
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I think it makes a lot of sense for the qortal network to get more people involved.

This is a good point, good decentralization at the start of a crypto coin gives it a strong foundation to stand on.

Even if strangers ask, as long as they are enthusiastic, support the network, and willing to go through the learning curve then they should also have a shot at becoming a minter.
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There is a problem with its programming. You after looking at their programing will see it. https://github.com/QORT/qortal/blob/d8c5e557d8305a3ec99bfe4fca0d8418bee062dd/src/main/resources/blockchain.json there it is visible to me. This also is not decentralization prograaming. Crowetic scammer always can block address with online update. Only looking at the commit tells you he is doing it. I am not joking see yourself. I warn everyone before this is the truth but crowetoc attack me directly.  Shocked
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There is a problem with its programming. You after looking at their programing will see it. https://github.com/QORT/qortal/blob/d8c5e557d8305a3ec99bfe4fca0d8418bee062dd/src/main/resources/blockchain.json there it is visible to me. This also is not decentralization prograaming. Crowetic scammer always can block address with online update. Only looking at the commit tells you he is doing it. I am not joking see yourself. I warn everyone before this is the truth but crowetoc attack me directly.  Shocked

Yoo are so smort

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I am an original Qora ICO investor with a level 5 Qortal minting account, I am not associated with the development team behind Qortal in any way, what I write is my own opinion.

So far I have not sponsored anyone, and as it stands today, I don't think I will be for quite a while. This might sound harsh, but it is the truth, so far I haven't seen anyone here or on discord who deserves a Minting account that doesn't already have one, but I will continue observing, and if/when I see quality candidates I will gladly help them get established.

A Qortal Minting account is like an Asic miner, it earns money, but a minting account runs on regular hardware, doesn't burn much electricity, and will never become obsolete, so in every respect, a minting account is superior to a PoW miner, and the block reward is perpetual, so it will continue to generate income for as long as this project exists.

A Qortal minting account is as close to a crypto Willie Wonka "Golden Ticket" as I've seen, and IMO a Minting account is a very valuable "asset", not something that should be given away to a random person who posts their public key on discord, not unless they deserve it.

The more Minting accounts there are the lower the individual rewards for each Minter will be, so the game theory here is pretty obvious; a level 5 Minter should sponsor people that contribute to the ongoing development & growth of the project. This isn't NEM in 2014 where in order to bootstrap a community from nothing all that was required was posting "Interested" in a BTT thread, Qortal already has enough committed people to run nodes now!

Users of the Qortal platform don't need to run a Minter anymore than users of Bitcoin or Ethereum need to run miners; if you want to use the BTC or ETH networks you buy coins, and that's what will happen with Qortal, people who want to use the platform will buy coins on the market.

Every person I sponsor will eventually shrink the number of coins I Mint per block over the life of my Minter, guys getting sponsored today will eventually level up with me, and they'll reduce the number of coins I can Mint.

Minting is a competitive system. If someone adds something to the Qortal ecosystem, makes the value of the coin increase, then it's worth my while, I get fewer coins from Minting but they're worth more! BUT, if all you do is run a minter and shrink my income, and you don't add more to the ecosystem, what is my incentive to sponsor you?

I know a lot of people might not agree with me, and a lot of level 5 guys will sponsor anyone who asks, at least during this initial phase, and that's fine with me, but for those guys posting their public keys on discord, if you want to jump the queue I suggest "doing something", write a blog, send some tweets, add a Qortal signature etc make yourself standout, while the bar is still relatively low. In the future Minting accounts will be very valuable, given to family & friends only, or people who do A LOT for the ecosystem.

Remember, there was a time when a NEM stake that literally cost the recipient an "interested" thread post was worth +2M USD, I think a Qortal Minter account is MORE valuable than a NEM stake, but if you want one you need to earn it IMO, this isn't 2014, Qortal already has a lot of Minters who've been following this project for years.

Before people jump to attack me I'll tell you what I did to get my level 5 Minter:
- I ran a Qora node for years, even when it was "dead"
- I bought a bag of Qora from 2014-16, total cost +15 BTC, worth ~300k USD had I sold those BTC in dec 2017
- I followed all Qora communications for 6 years

I'm not expecting new guys to have as much skin in the game as I do to get sponsored, but I expect more than just posting your pub key on discord, otherwise, I have plenty of family & friends I can sponsor.

IMO it's no different to how "valuable" things work in most other areas of life, if a friend or family member asks me to give them something valuable I will always think "if there isn't a good reason to say NO, say YES", BUT, if a stranger asks me to give them something valuable it's a "transaction", a trade, or it's begging.






Anyway,Qortal is coiming to live.
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So far I am positively surprised by Qortal.
In contrast to many Bitcoin clones it is based on a new platform. And so far it doesn't seem like many Shitcoins where the developer throws the idea into the room and then hopes that some idiots will develop it for him.

Even though in this thread it is mainly crowetic posting stuff in here, you can tell from both the git releases and the discord how many people are currently working on the project.
 
I've been following the project for at least half a year and permanently you can see progress in one way or another.
I've been running a node myself for about a week now, and I find the auto-updating core very handy. You can mint on a raspi 4b by the way. So low power costs and not nearly as much heat as usual mining.
If you have problems, the discord helps you a lot.

If this continues like this, I expect great things in the future.

It seems like the only one posting shit about qortal is some guy that just hates crowetic. Not sure what that's about.
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In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.


Don't get me wrong, I love arguing with people who will always lose the argument, but it's out of pure narcissism and I shouldn't do it... plus people tell me I shouldn't do it in public anyway, so yea. I'm going to be 'professional.' and not reply to the idiots anymore. OKAY EVERYONE? Okay. Weee, fun.

You only a famous burstcoin ex team leader and not professional hippie man.It is not hiden from public https://www.reddit.com/r/burstcoin/comments/6cbz5r/exclusive_burstcoin_community_news_crowetic_got/ Who lose the argument to a scammer now hippie man.


If I weren't professional, why would I be ignoring your dumb shit instead of putting you in your place? This will be my last reply in your general direction. Get down from the high horse there horseman, before you fall off.



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In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.


Don't get me wrong, I love arguing with people who will always lose the argument, but it's out of pure narcissism and I shouldn't do it... plus people tell me I shouldn't do it in public anyway, so yea. I'm going to be 'professional.' and not reply to the idiots anymore. OKAY EVERYONE? Okay. Weee, fun.

You only a famous burstcoin ex team leader and not professional hippie man.It is not hiden from public https://www.reddit.com/r/burstcoin/comments/6cbz5r/exclusive_burstcoin_community_news_crowetic_got/ Who lose the argument to a scammer now hippie man.


If I weren't professional, why would I be ignoring your dumb shit instead of putting you in your place? This will be my last reply in your general direction. Get down from the high horse there horseman, before you fall off.


ya i dont get what this guy was even trying to prove?

Ok, so Crow got ripped off by a scammer or two, who in this game for as many years as us HASENT? Cheesy    funny how one of those dudes is dead now, Karma is a bitch i guess
Tbh, losing a chunk of coin just makes a person hungry to grind it back (prob one of the reasons why he is working so hard on this)

a thick skin, and a sluffing off of angry noobs comes WITH heading a project in this cesspool that is BCT nowadays, fat chance shaking Crowetic this easy haha...

Keep On Keeping On, thats what us old school bitcoiners do....  Cool

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Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help? 


Do you have Discord? If so get in contact with me and I'll help you get through it.

Thanks, I do not have Discord yet. But I plan to set up an account on weekend.
Since I would say that I have a good technological background, I will certainly not be the only one who will have problems with the setup. Maybe it would be good to create a tutorial.

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Last edit: July 09, 2020, 01:37:31 PM by mprep
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I think it makes a lot of sense for the qortal network to get more people involved.

This is a good point, good decentralization at the start of a crypto coin gives it a strong foundation to stand on.

Even if strangers ask, as long as they are enthusiastic, support the network, and willing to go through the learning curve then they should also have a shot at becoming a minter.


PEOPLE = YES

The WRONG Types of PEOPLE = NO


I think we should all sponsor those who decide they would like to be part of something DIFFERENT, NEW, and CAPABLE of DECIMATING Hypocritical NONSENSE. The option to OWN ONESELF is ONE's OWN OPTION.

GREED has NO PLACE in The Qortal Network. Should someone decide they have too much GREED and not enough goals in contributions towards a BETTER WORLD, they NEED NOT APPLY.

The Qortal Network neither NEEDS nor WANTS assholes. Only GOOD PEOPLE who are willing to HELP ONE ANOTHER, AND CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS BUILDING A BETTER WORLD TOGETHER.




In truth you are the fool man. You want to keep Dev hidden and afraid of loosing development if they get better opportunity. They the slave men to you?  You think first next time hippe man.


Don't get me wrong, I love arguing with people who will always lose the argument, but it's out of pure narcissism and I shouldn't do it... plus people tell me I shouldn't do it in public anyway, so yea. I'm going to be 'professional.' and not reply to the idiots anymore. OKAY EVERYONE? Okay. Weee, fun.

You only a famous burstcoin ex team leader and not professional hippie man.It is not hiden from public https://www.reddit.com/r/burstcoin/comments/6cbz5r/exclusive_burstcoin_community_news_crowetic_got/ Who lose the argument to a scammer now hippie man.


If I weren't professional, why would I be ignoring your dumb shit instead of putting you in your place? This will be my last reply in your general direction. Get down from the high horse there horseman, before you fall off.


ya i dont get what this guy was even trying to prove?

Ok, so Crow got ripped off by a scammer or two, who in this game for as many years as us HASENT? Cheesy    funny how one of those dudes is dead now, Karma is a bitch i guess
Tbh, losing a chunk of coin just makes a person hungry to grind it back (prob one of the reasons why he is working so hard on this)

a thick skin, and a sluffing off of angry noobs comes WITH heading a project in this cesspool that is BCT nowadays, fat chance shaking Crowetic this easy haha...

Keep On Keeping On, thats what us old school bitcoiners do....  Cool

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Hello, I ran nodes of Qora a long time and sent Hundreds of millions Qora coins to the genesis address. How can I get a minting account of Qortal?
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Hello, I ran nodes of Qora a long time and sent Hundreds of millions Qora coins to the genesis address. How can I get a minting account of Qortal?
Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

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ya i dont get what this guy was even trying to prove?

Ok, so Crow got ripped off by a scammer or two, who in this game for as many years as us HASENT? Cheesy    funny how one of those dudes is dead now, Karma is a bitch i guess
Tbh, losing a chunk of coin just makes a person hungry to grind it back (prob one of the reasons why he is working so hard on this)

a thick skin, and a sluffing off of angry noobs comes WITH heading a project in this cesspool that is BCT nowadays, fat chance shaking Crowetic this easy haha...

Keep On Keeping On, thats what us old school bitcoiners do....  Cool

I'm still getting ripped off by scammers, at this point it's just part of life   Grin



YES

Types of PEOPLE  = NO

I think we should all sponsor those who decide they would like to be part of something DIFFERENT, NEW, and CAPABLE of DECIMATING Hypocritical NONSENSE. The option to OWN ONESELF is ONE's OWN OPTION.

GREED has NO PLACE in The Qortal Network. Should someone decide they have too much GREED and not enough goals in contributions towards a BETTER WORLD, they NEED NOT APPLY.

The Qortal Network neither NEEDS nor WANTS assholes. Only GOOD PEOPLE who are willing to HELP ONE ANOTHER, AND CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS BUILDING A BETTER WORLD TOGETHER.

That's actually what I meant, people have to work and prove they really are about supporting the concept behind QORT.
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I wrote an article/tutorial on how to run a qortal node on a VPS. https://medium.com/@RealCryptoLlama/how-to-setup-a-qortal-node-on-a-digitalocean-vps-ab70d3be2484

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July 09, 2020, 06:41:29 PM
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Understood, thanks but I still don't know what if someone will start xxxx nodes? What is the mechanism that protects against privatizing network by obtaining the majority of nodes?

This mechanism is called 'sponsorship' - so I guess, the mechanism, is YOU, bob.



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July 10, 2020, 07:35:41 PM
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Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I did it in Windows and got constant >50% CPU usage by Qortal.exe. What's the catch?

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July 10, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
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I did it in Windows and got constant >50% CPU usage by Qortal.exe. What's the catch?
Can't really tell, sorry. I've heard developers talk about some 20-30% being realistic, which shouldn't be much of an issue if you have a couple of cores.
For me (GNU/Linux with OpenJDK as Java environment), it runs on an average of 5-25%, mostly it jumps between, say, 9 and 22%.

Alternatively, you can install it on a remote server; member Llama has posted a great article on how to do that: https://medium.com/@RealCryptoLlama/how-to-setup-a-qortal-node-on-a-digitalocean-vps-ab70d3be2484
This way, you won't have to deal with Windoze in relation to QORT... might be worth a shot. Smiley

Disclaimer: I don't know much about the remote desktop software used in this post, so can't really say much about it... but it should also be possible to get it to run without GUI

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Hello, I ran nodes of Qora a long time and sent Hundreds of millions Qora coins to the genesis address. How can I get a minting account of Qortal?
Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I paste my seed of Qora and login to Qortal UI, I get "burned Qora amount: 0"
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July 11, 2020, 12:05:47 AM
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Hello, I ran nodes of Qora a long time and sent Hundreds of millions Qora coins to the genesis address. How can I get a minting account of Qortal?
Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I paste my seed of Qora and login to Qortal UI, I get "burned Qora amount: 0"
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Hello, I ran nodes of Qora a long time and sent Hundreds of millions Qora coins to the genesis address. How can I get a minting account of Qortal?
Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I paste my seed of Qora and login to Qortal UI, I get "burned Qora amount: 0"

Make sure you are using the individual seed to that account, not the seed to the group of accounts.
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Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I did it in Windows and got constant >50% CPU usage by Qortal.exe. What's the catch?

Same Here... It's not even like one time thing.
It's constant... This needs to be investigated. I don't like my CPU tonbe burned-off without proper explaination.
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Make sure you are using the individual seed to that account, not the seed to the group of accounts.
Yes, that's likely the problem. Always make sure to export your single QORA keys for that very address. If you burned your QORA (sent them to the genesis block), you should be included and it should work @iamlemon

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Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I did it in Windows and got constant >50% CPU usage by Qortal.exe. What's the catch?

Same Here... It's not even like one time thing.
It's constant... This needs to be investigated. I don't like my CPU tonbe burned-off without proper explaination.
I'm running Core on windows, and usage is under 10%. Its very old laptop (Acer from 2008). When Core is looking for nodes to connect, then it can be higher usage of CPU, but after connecting it should drop. Also, check version of Core you are running, if it is latest one. I can suggest you to join discord channel and describe your problems in details. Be sure that you are running 1.2.2 Core version.
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July 11, 2020, 04:39:18 PM
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I wrote an article/tutorial on how to run a qortal node on a VPS. https://medium.com/@RealCryptoLlama/how-to-setup-a-qortal-node-on-a-digitalocean-vps-ab70d3be2484


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July 11, 2020, 04:42:14 PM
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Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I did it in Windows and got constant >50% CPU usage by Qortal.exe. What's the catch?

Same Here... It's not even like one time thing.
It's constant... This needs to be investigated. I don't like my CPU tonbe burned-off without proper explaination.
I'm running Core on windows, and usage is under 10%. Its very old laptop (Acer from 2008). When Core is looking for nodes to connect, then it can be higher usage of CPU, but after connecting it should drop. Also, check version of Core you are running, if it is latest one. I can suggest you to join discord channel and describe your problems in details. Be sure that you are running 1.2.2 Core version.

In theory, if I have configured the public node network correctly, old versions of The Qortal Core, will update upon reaching the update-approval block (meaning, the block that the dev team ((with 20% agreement betwixt them)) decided to 'approve' the transaction, thus making it a permanent portion of the chain, and setting a block by which updates will take place upon any node synchronizing as far.

Essentially - IF YOU'RE ON AN OLD VERSION, IT WILL AUTO-UPDATE IF MY NETWORK IS SETUP CORRECTLY.



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Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help?  


Do you have Discord? If so get in contact with me and I'll help you get through it.

Thanks, I do not have Discord yet. But I plan to set up an account on weekend.
Since I would say that I have a good technological background, I will certainly not be the only one who will have problems with the setup. Maybe it would be good to create a tutorial.

Finally I got it run myself. I only did run the core software without the Qortal Ui firstly. However, the synchronization is pretty slow and my Qortal balance is still 0, even though I burned a large amount of Qora months ago and I used my corresponding Qora seed to login in to my Qortal wallet. Do I need to do something else in order to show up my minted share balance?

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In theory, if I have configured the public node network correctly, old versions of The Qortal Core, will update upon reaching the update-approval block (meaning, the block that the dev team ((with 20% agreement betwixt them)) decided to 'approve' the transaction, thus making it a permanent portion of the chain, and setting a block by which updates will take place upon any node synchronizing as far.

Essentially - IF YOU'RE ON AN OLD VERSION, IT WILL AUTO-UPDATE IF MY NETWORK IS SETUP CORRECTLY.

Running  qortal-1.2.2 now on 64-bit WIN7 and CPU usage is still over 50% on old i3 laptop. Because I'm not running anything with administrative privileges, real loop show starts when right clicked on qortal taskbar icon and start Synchronize clock. Don't do this at home...

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How to install qortal node on Ubuntu 18.04?
which commands use?
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Having problems to get the Qortal wallet to run. After I downloaded the current provided version in the opening thread I run the .sh file. According to the log file the wallet should run on port 12392 while the API run on port 12391. But when I call 127.0.0.1:12392 the page is not found while calling 127.0.0.1:12391 gives me a page which says I must enable API documentation in settings file. Any help?  


Do you have Discord? If so get in contact with me and I'll help you get through it.

Thanks, I do not have Discord yet. But I plan to set up an account on weekend.
Since I would say that I have a good technological background, I will certainly not be the only one who will have problems with the setup. Maybe it would be good to create a tutorial.

Finally I got it run myself. I only did run the core software without the Qortal Ui firstly. However, the synchronization is pretty slow and my Qortal balance is still 0, even though I burned a large amount of Qora months ago and I used my corresponding Qora seed to login in to my Qortal wallet. Do I need to do something else in order to show up my minted share balance?
open your qora wallet and open "http://127.0.0.1:9085/addresses/seed/your Qora  address"  to get your Qora seed.
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In theory, if I have configured the public node network correctly, old versions of The Qortal Core, will update upon reaching the update-approval block (meaning, the block that the dev team ((with 20% agreement betwixt them)) decided to 'approve' the transaction, thus making it a permanent portion of the chain, and setting a block by which updates will take place upon any node synchronizing as far.

Essentially - IF YOU'RE ON AN OLD VERSION, IT WILL AUTO-UPDATE IF MY NETWORK IS SETUP CORRECTLY.

Running  qortal-1.2.2 now on 64-bit WIN7 and CPU usage is still over 50% on old i3 laptop. Because I'm not running anything with administrative privileges, real loop show starts when right clicked on qortal taskbar icon and start Synchronize clock. Don't do this at home...

Please someone look into this ....
Facing this issue since Genesis....
I would have understood if CPU usage is increased when finding the node etc
But the issue his... CPU usage is high all the time (Post some time after the node is started) irrespective of how many nodes the core is connected to.
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I said before that scammer only trying to scam people. This is not useful and the discord is now like children place. No leader and no dev left. All left  Grin
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Please someone look into this ....
Facing this issue since Genesis....
I would have understood if CPU usage is increased when finding the node etc
But the issue his... CPU usage is high all the time (Post some time after the node is started) irrespective of how many nodes the core is connected to.

Something like this might help:




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hey! I could use a sponsor to start minting.. anybody?
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I had download the wallet,but the block still keep 1 block,what should I do now?
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In theory, if I have configured the public node network correctly, old versions of The Qortal Core, will update upon reaching the update-approval block (meaning, the block that the dev team ((with 20% agreement betwixt them)) decided to 'approve' the transaction, thus making it a permanent portion of the chain, and setting a block by which updates will take place upon any node synchronizing as far.

Essentially - IF YOU'RE ON AN OLD VERSION, IT WILL AUTO-UPDATE IF MY NETWORK IS SETUP CORRECTLY.

Running  qortal-1.2.2 now on 64-bit WIN7 and CPU usage is still over 50% on old i3 laptop. Because I'm not running anything with administrative privileges, real loop show starts when right clicked on qortal taskbar icon and start Synchronize clock. Don't do this at home...

I think I might setup a few publicly accessible nodes, but they obviously don't allow you to mint...


I think I might setup a service to host private minting VMs for people. That sounds like something that is a good plan...


Also you can purchase a raspberry pi 4, and we can provide you an image for it with our custom Qortal Kernel, that runs AMAZINGLY.

Any ARM device in theory can work, and we plan to build a bunch of custom ARM kernels.



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July 17, 2020, 04:59:48 AM
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I had download the wallet,but the block still keep 1 block,what should I do now?

I have noticed a few things, and I think I will be suggesting a change to the "minBlockchainPeers" in the default settings.json file.

You can also make this change manually and it has helped for me when I had a similar situation.

To make this change in windows

go to RUN, and type
Code:
%appdata%

in the folder it opens, instead of 'roaming', go to 'local'

in
Code:
c:\users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Qortal
you will find
Code:
settings.json
, open the file

Edit settings.json and add the line
Code:
"minBlockchainPeers": 3,
(with the comma if it IS NOT the last line item before the close bracket }, and WITHOUT a comma if it IS THE LAST line item before the }.)

Linux+others

In your 'Qortal' folder, find 'settings.json' and follow above instructions to edit file and add the "minBlockchainPeers": 3




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New QORT block explorer:

https://cryptostats.cc/qort_explorer/index.php

Credit to Oszy (Discord) for creating it.
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July 18, 2020, 07:48:45 AM
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I think I might setup a few publicly accessible nodes, but they obviously don't allow you to mint...


I think I might setup a service to host private minting VMs for people. That sounds like something that is a good plan...


Also you can purchase a raspberry pi 4, and we can provide you an image for it with our custom Qortal Kernel, that runs AMAZINGLY.

Any ARM device in theory can work, and we plan to build a bunch of custom ARM kernels.

I have couple of different Orange PIs, so instructions for building will for sure help spreading nodes much faster than waiting for specific custom kernels.

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I said before that scammer only trying to scam people. This is not useful and the discord is now like children place. No leader and no dev left. All left  Grin
This is abolute nonsense. Also, let me remind you how enthusiastic you were when you were part of that Discord. Now you're trash talking the project. Let's keep it civil, buddy.

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I said before that scammer only trying to scam people. This is not useful and the discord is now like children place. No leader and no dev left. All left  Grin
This is abolute nonsense. Also, let me remind you how enthusiastic you were when you were part of that Discord. Now you're trash talking the project. Let's keep it civil, buddy.

Discord channel has now been abandoned. They were under attacks - multiple barrages from all angles possible, devised, probably by zilliqa team. Coz you know, ZIL zealots would strafe even projects unrelated to theirs, to derail, compromise and possibly procrastinate their development. Im surprised to find that you guys are still independent thinkers, and have not migrated to more fertile and much greener zilliqa paddocks. They pay developers more money, they hire more people, can u imagine, with all that cash they have.
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I said before that scammer only trying to scam people. This is not useful and the discord is now like children place. No leader and no dev left. All left  Grin
This is abolute nonsense. Also, let me remind you how enthusiastic you were when you were part of that Discord. Now you're trash talking the project. Let's keep it civil, buddy.

Discord channel has now been abandoned. They were under attacks - multiple barrages from all angles possible, devised, probably by zilliqa team. Coz you know, ZIL zealots would strafe even projects unrelated to theirs, to derail, compromise and possibly procrastinate their development. Im surprised to find that you guys are still independent thinkers, and have not migrated to more fertile and much greener zilliqa paddocks. They pay developers more money, they hire more people, can u imagine, with all that cash they have.

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Discord channel has now been abandoned. They were under attacks - multiple barrages from all angles possible, devised, probably by zilliqa team. Coz you know, ZIL zealots would strafe even projects unrelated to theirs, to derail, compromise and possibly procrastinate their development. Im surprised to find that you guys are still independent thinkers, and have not migrated to more fertile and much greener zilliqa paddocks. They pay developers more money, they hire more people, can u imagine, with all that cash they have.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

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I said before that scammer only trying to scam people. This is not useful and the discord is now like children place. No leader and no dev left. All left  Grin
This is abolute nonsense. Also, let me remind you how enthusiastic you were when you were part of that Discord. Now you're trash talking the project. Let's keep it civil, buddy.

Discord channel has now been abandoned. They were under attacks - multiple barrages from all angles possible, devised, probably by zilliqa team. Coz you know, ZIL zealots would strafe even projects unrelated to theirs, to derail, compromise and possibly procrastinate their development. Im surprised to find that you guys are still independent thinkers, and have not migrated to more fertile and much greener zilliqa paddocks. They pay developers more money, they hire more people, can u imagine, with all that cash they have.

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July 21, 2020, 04:13:53 PM
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Not sure what is going on with the nonsense lately, but let me address a few things...


The devs are still around. They are family, and not going anywhere.

There was one issue due to some drama, but it was handled in private and the one dev that was gone for a couple days is now back, so again, no issues.


We are working on the Trade Portal, and we're getting through it quite nicely. There were a few things we didn't think about as far as the UI goes, but we're getting through it, and the Trade Portal should be the next thing we push live as far as features go.


I have decided that I am not going to be doing much talking in the Discord anymore... people wishing to get in touch with me can do so in Q-Chat. Send 'new chat' to 'crowetic' and message me there.



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ANNOUNCEMENT - We did a livestream yesterday with John McAfee and the Alfa Vedic group.

Check it out here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_-UNInZ8U - CRYPTO 3.0 FOR DUMMIES WITH JOHN MCAFEE, ALFA VEDIC, AND CROWETIC.


Hopefully this video can bring a little more CLARITY on certain aspects of the project... I think we did a pretty decent job of clarifying some things in a simple fashion so that even crypto newbies could understand. Let us know what you think!



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ANN - NEW UI - EXTREMELY FAST - update now live - https://github.com/Qortal/qortal-ui/releases

+Windows Users Direct Download+

Windows Download -https://github.com/Qortal/qortal-ui/releases/download/v1.1.4/Qortal-UI-Setup-1.1.4.exe

-Linux users can update from apt repo(if they have it setup) with
Code:
apt update
or
download from...

Linux .deb package - Linux .deb package - https://github.com/Qortal/qortal-ui/releases/download/v1.1.4/qortal-ui_1.1.4_amd64.deb

-Mac-

Mac .dmg package - https://github.com/Qortal/qortal-ui/releases/download/v1.1.4/Qortal-UI-1.1.4.dmg


USE THE APP WHENEVER POSSIBLE OVER WEB BASED VERSION FOR BEST (OPTIMAL) PERFORMANCE/OPTIONS.


ENJOY!

P.S. - The NEXT UI update AFTER THIS ONE will include the first version of THE TRADE PORTAL!



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July 26, 2020, 07:46:46 PM
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Hi,

I really like this project. Is there any task or campaign by which I can earn the sponsorship.
I read all about the coin on wiki and understood that without sponsorship I cannot mint the coin.
I don't use discord is there any Telegram channel also ?
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July 27, 2020, 06:42:08 AM
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I had download the wallet,but the block still keep 1 block,what should I do now?

I have noticed a few things, and I think I will be suggesting a change to the "minBlockchainPeers" in the default settings.json file.

You can also make this change manually and it has helped for me when I had a similar situation.

To make this change in windows

go to RUN, and type
Code:
%appdata%

in the folder it opens, instead of 'roaming', go to 'local'

in
Code:
c:\users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Qortal
you will find
Code:
settings.json
, open the file

Edit settings.json and add the line
Code:
"minBlockchainPeers": 3,
(with the comma if it IS NOT the last line item before the close bracket }, and WITHOUT a comma if it IS THE LAST line item before the }.)

Linux+others

In your 'Qortal' folder, find 'settings.json' and follow above instructions to edit file and add the "minBlockchainPeers": 3





According to your tutorial, I have successfully linked the nodes,thanks !
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Install Qortal Core + UI, have your QORA address seed ready, launch the run.sh (GNU/Linux) or run.bat (Windoze) Script to start the core, run the UI, choose "Login", then "QORA Address Seed", enter your seed, done. Smiley

I did it in Windows and got constant >50% CPU usage by Qortal.exe. What's the catch?
I watched mine for several hours, more than 7-9% did not rise.
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Where can I read your Whitepaper?
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I have purchased the mining equipment of qort. Who can authorize the account number!

My email 911089629@qq.com.

Address

QWRpDYNycvqQrL9RmMDraL1hjTRBbghekz

Public key

4V7cGn3dEBxxJYGQ4EaeLMxvScN83mLLZs6uRqyCbHN5
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Anybody selling any? 

iXcoin - Welcome to the F U T U R E!
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Last edit: July 28, 2020, 06:06:22 AM by HmmMAA
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Anybody selling any?  

You can join the discord , look at #otc-qort-or-qora-trading , several trades made so far .

If you aren't already a minter i'd be happy to sponsor you .

 
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