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July 02, 2020, 11:31:11 AM
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Well, it did not actually originate in the Philippines and I knew that from the thread that @mu_enrico said. It is forbidden right now but there is what we call "tupada" in our place and that is just a small meeting of people wanting to fight their roosters and bet to themselves. It is illegal so people are actually hiding so they can do some betting.

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July 02, 2020, 12:31:13 PM
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Well, it did not actually originate in the Philippines and I knew that from the thread that @mu_enrico said. It is forbidden right now but there is what we call "tupada" in our place and that is just a small meeting of people wanting to fight their roosters and bet to themselves. It is illegal so people are actually hiding so they can do some betting.

tupada is where the gambling happen ? or its only a term for meeting on when and where the gambling takes place   and by the way are you from what country  and why cock betting is illegal .

  its sad that they make it illegal when many people are interested on it . why can they just make an agreement and make it legal but only the operators will pay regular fee in return the government will provide some place for them to make it more accesible .
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July 02, 2020, 01:48:57 PM
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Western countries like to bet in horses. I guess cock fighting is only popular in Asian countries like Thailand and Indonesia.
Because EU countries forbid's fighting against animals you will actually be imprisoned in betting those types of gambling in these countries due to their moral code. It's actually ironic while they murder those innocent chickens.

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July 02, 2020, 01:56:11 PM
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Well, it did not actually originate in the Philippines and I knew that from the thread that @mu_enrico said. It is forbidden right now but there is what we call "tupada" in our place and that is just a small meeting of people wanting to fight their roosters and bet to themselves. It is illegal so people are actually hiding so they can do some betting.

tupada is where the gambling happen ? or its only a term for meeting on when and where the gambling takes place   and by the way are you from what country  and why cock betting is illegal .

  its sad that they make it illegal when many people are interested on it . why can they just make an agreement and make it legal but only the operators will pay regular fee in return the government will provide some place for them to make it more accesible .

According to https://tagalog.pinoydictionary.com/word/tupada/

Tupada is illegal cockfighting, and that is in the Philippines. Maybe in other countries, the name will also be different, but that is the same. Maybe it's using involving money for a gamble, so the government decides to forbidden. If cockfighting is not used money, maybe the government will allow, but so far, people still use money in cockfighting.

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July 02, 2020, 02:08:30 PM
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I believe we already discussed this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184923.0 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131130.0
You may read there that in Phillipina, it's called "sabong," and in Indonesia, it's called "sabung."
I believe cockfighting is everywhere Grin

It is a nice comparison. It just shows that Indonesia is few kilometers below of Philippines only. Many Filipinos love cockfighting specially those who are old. In fact, it is more popular as gambling than poker or physical casino in my country. The addiction of cockfighting gamblers can`t be reached in my country, to the point that it became as meme, parody and other fun stuff because most of the Fathers here are cockfighting gamblers.

If this could be included in gambling site, like sports betting. Many of my countrymen will probably go to the site and bet for their cock. 

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July 02, 2020, 02:10:15 PM
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Western countries like to bet in horses. I guess cock fighting is only popular in Asian countries like Thailand and Indonesia.
Because EU countries forbid's fighting against animals you will actually be imprisoned in betting those types of gambling in these countries due to their moral code. It's actually ironic while they murder those innocent chickens.
Lol those chickens are Breed to fight and for those event and they are not maltreated .
Just like you eating chicken,meaning we must not murder chicken to have foods on our table?

and this cockfight has been on the scene from our ancestral and as a sort of fun.
Well, it did not actually originate in the Philippines and I knew that from the thread that @mu_enrico said. It is forbidden right now but there is what we call "tupada" in our place and that is just a small meeting of people wanting to fight their roosters and bet to themselves. It is illegal so people are actually hiding so they can do some betting.
Sorry it is not forbidden,But because there are social distancing thats why we are now waiting for the government advise when to start fighting again.

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July 02, 2020, 02:27:08 PM
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I don't think Cockfight exists only in the Philippines, but in almost all countries. Why Cockfight Gambling isn't so popular,
because many countries consider Cockfight illegal, many animal lover organizations oppose fights between animals. Cockfight
also known as blood sport. Because I'm also uncomfortable seeing animals fight with each other until they get injured, even
the chicken died. I have never been interested in gambling that makes animals hurt.

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According to my research, it started even during classical times where the Persians brought the cockfighting to the Greeks. There's no recorded final entry on where and when it originated but most experts say it started in Southeast Asia. [1] It has been all about the betting part on the cockfighting but some are entertained by it as well.

I think I have gotten into a great resource material for cockfighting but the link is already dead. All I found is this archived link with that website [2]




[1] - okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=CO012#:~:text=The%20history%20of%20cockfighting%20goes,it%20originated%20in%20Southeast%20Asia.
[2] - https://web.archive.org/web/20050909012957/http://www.personal.psu.edu:80/users/c/d/cda121/History.html

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July 02, 2020, 03:04:57 PM
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I believe we already discussed this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184923.0 and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131130.0
You may read there that in Phillipina, it's called "sabong," and in Indonesia, it's called "sabung."
I believe cockfighting is everywhere Grin


Backyard cockfighting is called tupada in our country, very popular here in our country in fact cockfighting are held in big coliseum. my friend even called cock fighting bettors as honest bettors, because you can make a bet from a person across the arena by sign language only and they never miss payment, if you tried to escape you will be ban from the place.
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July 02, 2020, 03:13:43 PM
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I think it's illegal in most countries that's why it is not that popular in other countries. But in the Philippines, I think it remains legal because it's already popular for decades, and I think it also becomes a part of the tradition. In addition to that is that the government is also earning from it.

I think most Filipinos have at least one person they personally know that is into cockfighting. And the fact that gamblers would still arrange a cockfighting event in the middle of the pandemic even if it's not allowed, it just shows how popular it is in our country that gamblers would risk their lives for it.
The legal ones are those that has permit on the local government but those who just fight elsewhere without proper approval of the mayor or police it considered illegal; backyard cockfighting. There still has who arranged a cockfights in my area but it's too rare to be flocked by people they are mostly arranging on a remote one where authorities will not make them too easy to catch, funny how it was but there's still who are caught on act and even fined for thousands of pesos on it.

There's still a cockfighting fad right now and it goes online and the cockfighters here are really loving it, you may visit https://www.sabinginternational.com. To be able to play or watch the live game you have to have a balance on your account and to be able to bet too. The registration is just easy though even right now I haven't cash in an amount yet maybe when boredom strikes and I have some balance on my GCASH.
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You can't integrate the 'provably fair' point in the cockfighting, so I'm skipping Cheesy

Plus, it's illegal in most places.
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July 02, 2020, 03:26:42 PM
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You can't integrate the 'provably fair' point in the cockfighting, so I'm skipping Cheesy

Plus, it's illegal in most places.

Yes it's illegal but people can play and bet on it just anywhere and the authorities will have a hard time finding them unless they caught them in the act, people rich or poor can play this cockfight, I read that politicians are betting millions, this is a multi-million dollar business in some countries, I think we have a thread about cockfighting online betting although also illegal many are subscribing in those channels.


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July 02, 2020, 03:34:01 PM
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well in all EU countries this is completely illegal as all fight between animals!
That's not entirely accurate. There are also countries in the EU with exceptions, where cock fights are territorially allowed, for example for traditional reasons like in the region around Nord-Pas de Calais. There are similar regulations in Spain and I think even in Great Britain.

why ask to animals to fight and to force them to have injury? It's funny see an animal die? not for me for sure! Smiley
I can't understand it's pretty far away from my standard. I will never bet in anything of this activity.
I see it the same way, would never watch such a fight and certainly not bet on it. The fact that this is still seen in a different way today can be seen for example in Spain, where bullfights are still very popular.

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Today I just wondering if this kind of game is just existed only in the Philippines or in the other country but most of the time is you make a research on it one of the popular gambling of the elders is the cockfight, sometimes the fight can do in any wide places that the fighter chicken can freely move. Most of the time there is derby on it that they can play legally and gather a lot of gamblers just to bet to their favorite fighter.


Some of the places too that are playing cockfight are India, China, Persia, and now is there's a game like this in your country?.

You need to have a big heart to watch this game as his game bring a blood bath and i think it should be banned. The result of a game is decided when one cock dies or is badly injured. How cruel is that  Huh
This game is most popular in Philippines, Indonesia and also India but i think these governments should take steps to ban it permanently.

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July 02, 2020, 04:43:23 PM
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Today I just wondering if this kind of game is just existed only in the Philippines or in the other country but most of the time is you make a research on it one of the popular gambling of the elders is the cockfight, sometimes the fight can do in any wide places that the fighter chicken can freely move. Most of the time there is derby on it that they can play legally and gather a lot of gamblers just to bet to their favorite fighter.

Some of the places too that are playing cockfight are India, China, Persia, and now is there's a game like this in your country?.

Cock Fight is popular here in the Philippines for some of the people here but most of the time it doesn't really involve some cryptocurrency or bitcoin. Everything is done in fiat or physical money. But its really great sport for some of the people where they really taking care of their cocks so that it is available to fight its opponent. Some of my relatives are getting 100$ up in just 1 fight, its already involve a big amount of money so if continue to grow maybe the government might accept this kind of gamble since it might be illegal for some places.
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July 02, 2020, 04:46:16 PM
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Well, it did not actually originate in the Philippines and I knew that from the thread that @mu_enrico said. It is forbidden right now but there is what we call "tupada" in our place and that is just a small meeting of people wanting to fight their roosters and bet to themselves. It is illegal so people are actually hiding so they can do some betting.

Animal fighting is now getting more stricter and many countries have banned it. Now with the various NGO and the protection of animals the laws are very strict and also I guess the bull fight in Europe has also being banned in some cities. Now only thing it may happen illegally in some place where people may bet privately.
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Cockfighting is only legal in a few countries throughout the world it seems, and I am surprised to see countries like Spain and France still allow them, but I guess if you can kill bulls for sport in Spain, chickens are not more difficult to allow;)

Any kind of blood sport is wrong I believe. Even though my tradition also saw it happening. No suffering for our entertainment.

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Today I just wondering if this kind of game is just existed only in the Philippines or in the other country but most of the time is you make a research on it one of the popular gambling of the elders is the cockfight, sometimes the fight can do in any wide places that the fighter chicken can freely move. Most of the time there is derby on it that they can play legally and gather a lot of gamblers just to bet to their favorite fighter.


Some of the places too that are playing cockfight are India, China, Persia, and now is there's a game like this in your country?.

You need to have a big heart to watch this game as his game bring a blood bath and i think it should be banned. The result of a game is decided when one cock dies or is badly injured. How cruel is that  Huh
This game is most popular in Philippines, Indonesia and also India but i think these governments should take steps to ban it permanently.
Few years back we have many fights like this mean Cock fighitng Doge fighting and few others but due to this blood bath and many other problems many NGO's start protest against this all so government ban this all now we are not able to have this all otherwise this was one of biggest fun here in our local areas.
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You can't integrate the 'provably fair' point in the cockfighting, so I'm skipping Cheesy

Plus, it's illegal in most places.
I believe that this is somehow luck related game but if you have a rare breed kind of roosters in your lawn then the luck is mostly in favor with you. I know it's illegal in some places mostly in the crowded city but this kind of gambling is very famous to the elders that the betting amount sometimes would exceeded to $1000 or more. I don't think this kind of gambling would happen within the city, it must be somewhere far from it or an underground gambling lair.

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Well, I assumed that you are coming from the country of the Philippines which is cockfighting is a very common and legal game.
This game also has known as a bloody sports game and has been around for how many years even in the ancient people they are doing this as a means of the entertainment game. But I don't like this kind of game, because it is considered animal cruelty which abusing animals. The reason is right, they were born to fight and ready to die, but they belong to animals that should not involve in any violent death.

Indeed, no means for good but they were still considering it. In the meantime, cockfighting in the Philippines was strictly prohibited amid COVID 19 which is to follow the pandemic protocol, mass gathering.









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