[Updated] Rising tensions and effect on global trade

[Febo]

A trade war between China and India would only mean an even greater weakening of China, as India will have to turn to imports from some other countries. I don't think you need to be too intelligent to see the bigger picture of the problem, and here the economic-political war is obviously at work in what seems to be its initial stage.

Trade war always weaken both sides. India and China will both be strongest economies of this century. Sp for sure there will always be tension between these two countries. Both can still even if totally stop trading with other side.

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[Philipping]

Big war to ban tiktok apps? Applications, not companies, have been banned, is a common occurrence in stats. Without it, there would have been no benefit to vpn.
Indians will continue to use those sites so if you want to fight a service you need to make an alternative to it and make it attractive as investors can benefit from it and develop it.
some Indians had given the app a negative score with less than 3.6. that is big war happen in google play store

[suzanne5223]

A situation like is expected to happen sooner or later because in the year 2019 before the pandemic issue, India was seen as one of the fastest growing major economy in the world and it was predicted to overtake of the U.K and Germany.
Meanwhile,their last year economy growth left some suspicion and China in the other are know for their centralization habit. I believe this is what led to the data misuse by the Chinese.
 As we're all aware that the two countries goals as a member of  World trade organization it better the political interventions make a positive correction rather add salt to the wound due to what are at stake.

Just because the situation like you've described and tendency of some countries to grow and develope fast in economic way and thus overcome some other superior countries some say that this pandemic wasn't accidental and that the purpose was to create new world order and slow sone countries down, like India and China.
I.don't believe in conspiracy theories but on the other hand when we look in what world we live in nothing seems to be impossible.

Youre right but people will have different assumption about the reason behind the rising in tensions which was presumed to be a strategy to shift world order as you said.
 What i heard when China maintain their economy then, is that China are behind it all in other to be leader which the reason why their economy was not affected but i dont see conspiracy as something important now.

[Stedsm]

I'm from India and I know the level of tensions going on between both the countries but you also can't deny the fact that taking the advantage of Coronavirus pandemic where everyone is busy thinking how to save their lives from it, China is just trying to invade some parts (specific areas) of Ladakh and trying to get in through our boundaries, breaking their agreements. I don't believe we played a political move here by boycotting the import of Chinese products as who knows, they'll just start sending Coronavirus through their products in order to increase the pandemic ratio in India knowing that it's 2nd largest in terms of population?

[jademaxsuy]

Trade war always weaken both sides. India and China will both be strongest economies of this century. Sp for sure there will always be tension between these two countries. Both can still even if totally stop trading with other side.

China had been playing a big role in trading. It seems that China and other communist country had plan something. As we all know that China when it comes to trading Russia had never made an issue. I guess both countries had plan something huge?

China had been also into trade war between U.S both countries had been into like a competition on which country is really strong. Then they came to realize that trade must be back for it is a big help for the economic growth.

Now, that pandemic had already made countries exhausted while china are into giving debt to countries where they can take advantage meaning that China had maybe plan in ruling over the country with high debt. I hope that it will not come to a time that China will claim our country just like what it did to spratley Island west Philippine Sea. Grrrr.

[adamistraybar]

yep usa and china too, there butting heads and with all this crazyness its pretty simple. It will pass sooner or later it might take  a year but stuff will stabilize. But also during this time lots of oppritunes to earn some money

[carlisle1]

yep usa and china too, there butting heads and with all this crazyness its pretty simple. It will pass sooner or later it might take  a year but stuff will stabilize. But also during this time lots of oppritunes to earn some money

Mind to make those statement clear because it seems that you are the only one who can understand what you are saying.
i try reading couple of time but nothing that i found.

Big war to ban tiktok apps? Applications, not companies, have been banned, is a common occurrence in stats.

USA claims that tiktok is a hack app?and preventing their people to use this application?
Damn stupidity,what about their APPLE product?how sure we are that there has no hack on it?
all they want is to favor them but if other country do they will surely cry.

Without it, there would have been no benefit to vpn.
Indians will continue to use those sites so if you want to fight a service you need to make an alternative to it and make it attractive as investors can benefit from it and develop it.
some Indians had given the app a negative score with less than 3.6. that is big war happen in google play store

anyway it is about the brainwashing done b the government .

[Yogee]

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 In the end, it all comes down to who is spying on whom - or rather, use Facebook and Twitter so that only our local security agencies can spy on you.

In other words, it is normal for us to spy on the whole world - but we will not allow anyone to spy on us Well, good luck with that idea, but as you treat others, they will they treat you.

Spidy agrees


Sooner or later, both countries will have to reach yet another agreement. That's if India doesn't want to be a battleground for China and USA proxy war or trade war. As of now, the USA is one of the few countries who can really stand their ground against China but the US can't afford to lose much of their resources.

[avikz]

This appears to be a political move from one or both parties, the two possible scenarios are;
• The Chinese government is attempting to use the popularity of companies within its region to get public data
• The Indian government is trying to hurt Chinese based companies as it has one of the largest consumer base for their products.
The Indian government would likely encourage its citizens to use local products, this however could affect the nation if this does not meet the required standards.

Both countries are members of the World Trade organization, with the goal of maintaining a peaceful and efficient trade between nations.
How do you think political interventions would limit the growth of companies and affect global trade?

This step of India has already started affecting trades with China.  I sincerely believe, it is good for India in long run. There will be initial hiccups for some manufacturing companies until they find a new supplier from India, but once a new supplier of raw materials are found, it can continue with their productions without any imports from China. It's indeed a great step taken by the government so decrease dependency on China products.

Can you name one neighbor of China who doesn't have any border issue with them. Modi used right word about China - Expansionist!

The "Vocal for Local" movement has just started and it will go a long way! If it's affecting global trade, no harm! China is a big threat to the world and they need to sidelined for good!

[abhiseshakana]

Trade war always weaken both sides. India and China will both be strongest economies of this century. Sp for sure there will always be tension between these two countries. Both can still even if totally stop trading with other side.

Comparing India and China is like comparing two runners in different trajectories, or comparing two planets in different orbits. Geographically India and China are large with large populations and both are countries with large economic growth. So even though the start is the same but China has shot several times faster.

For example, although in India early childhood education is already based on technology, but China is faster and more flexible in absorbing technology. China has already started weapons making technology, while India is quite happy by becoming the second largest importer of weapons in the world. China moves quickly to master the strategic elements of the 4.0 industrial revolution (raw materials, technology, methods, and systems), India has only begun China's initial steps in the 90s. India is more reformist by opening pathways for foreign investment while China is more aggressive with colonialization 5.0 through the OBOR program.

India dares to maneuver against China, only as an American proxy for closing China's access (containment policy) to the South China sea area. Complete the role of Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines on the other side. Will O Brien's containment policy be as successful as Keenan's success in compartmentalizing and splitting the Soviet Union.

[CarnagexD]

So I guess these things happening between China and India is real, it's not about the problem that they are fronting, it's about India telling China that they can fight them.

They are both huge countries and have the largest population among other countries, so maybe their conflict can cause a huge impact globally.

Especially that China is very rich when it comes to its economy and in terms of war, China is much more powerful compared to India. But India is not that easy to compete with in terms of the trade.

Hoping that conflicts should not be the priority of this countries during this pandemic because this tensions between them will make its citizen struggle more. They should focus on enhancing their economy so that it will not affect the global trade but help their authorities to handle this much effectively.

[Peanutswar]

So I guess these things happening between China and India is real, it's not about the problem that they are fronting, it's about India telling China that they can fight them.

They are both huge countries and have the largest population among other countries, so maybe their conflict can cause a huge impact globally.

I don't think so that they will continue this kind of war from because they must take a declaration first and this is not the right time they must need to focus on fighting the pandemic outbreak because most of the economic status of the country is on recovering and they must need to help their own community than destroying others.

If this war becomes there are a lot of people may affect because in china they have 1,439,323,776 and in India is 1,387,297,452 people according to google and those are a huge number of people that can possibly die because of this war.

[stompix]

"...According to the World Bank, India imports more goods from China than any other country, buying more than $90 billion worth of products in 2018 including machinery and electronics, chemicals and consumer goods. It exported less than a fifth of that amount to China.

I really want to see where that data comes from since the US imports almost 500 billion worth of products from China in 2018.

This is the real data from 2018:

Okay , let's face this, the trade industry kind of in a turmoil between the two nations , but at the same time it is supposedly a good thing :

•Bulbonic Plague is reported in China
•New Pandemic potential Swine flu virus was reported last week

Bubonic Plague cases have been reported for decades and not only in China, actually quite ironic the last serious outbreak happened in India!
The "new" virus is also not new, it was discovered 4 years ago and it hasn't caused anything special till now

[Latviand]

Did you hear about the conflict between US and China, this issue about India is not new to us.

China is always included in an issue between countries due to its huge impact economically. We all know that China is one of a huge countries that are really affected by this pandemic and yet, they also handled this pandemic properly. In terms of trades, China really dominating the global trade.

India will surely lose this competition or tension but they want to say that they can compete with everyone that's why they are not that easy to have conflict with. So let's observe the Global economy and as well as the global trades between countries.

[wozzek23]

It's funny how lots of countries are relying on China for almost everything they need. I think it's high time they focus on producing the things they need instead of relying on these people for everything. I do understand it's because the cost is less in China, but they should still try to cut it down, because it's becoming too much.

And as for the Indian government banning Chinese apps, I don't see anything wrong with that. If they believe that those apps are stealing data that they are not meant to, then I don't see anything wrong with them pressing an end button to that. I was saw a video on Twitter about one of the Chinese apps that's doing the same thing.

[Negotiation]

yep usa and china too, there butting heads and with all this crazyness its pretty simple. It will pass sooner or later it might take  a year but stuff will stabilize. But also during this time lots of oppritunes to earn some money

Although US investment in China was largely stable during the trade war, Chinese investment in the United States declined sharply.

US President Donald Trump sees the trade deficit as a scorecard and believes the tariff war with China could reduce the trade deficit in his country.

[Lucius]

It's funny how lots of countries are relying on China for almost everything they need. I think it's high time they focus on producing the things they need instead of relying on these people for everything. I do understand it's because the cost is less in China, but they should still try to cut it down, because it's becoming too much.

Do you really think that big companies would give up huge profits and move their factories to countries where the cost of complete infrastructure is several times higher, not to mention the cost of labor?

Take for example the globally known Apple, mostly known for its Iphone which in each new version costs around $1000. They have numerous factories across China, and perhaps the most famous is the one the workers called the iPhoneCity, which employs 350 000 people working in three shifts 6 days a week. The starting salary is around $400, and with overtime hours you can earn another $200-300 per month.

What’s really interesting is that this factory can produce 500 000 phones a day, so it’s not hard to calculate how much Apple actually makes on modern slavery. iPhoneCity is actually located near the city Zhengzhou in one of the poorest provinces in China. In other words, Apple would never be a $ 1.5 trillion company if it didn't have China and millions of workers working literally for dust.

I was watching a documentary about Foxconn who is run iPhoneCity, and I can say nothing but that this is modern version of slavery that once existed in the USA and the rest of the world. As tragic as it may sound, China needs companies like this to hire all its citizens who really have no choice, they can work or starve - communism has no emotions or cares about exploitation - they sell everything that can be sold, and that includes people.

https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-factory-foxconn-china-photos-tour-2018-5

[Febo]

..., they'll just start sending Coronavirus through their products in order to increase the pandemic ratio in India knowing that it's 2nd largest in terms of population?

Come on man. No one is sending virus to anyone. Everyone is fighting to kill virus. Some countries fight seriously like Vietnam and South Korea and China. Some countries like Brazill and some others dont give that much focus.  Noone is so dumb to deliberately spread virus since it can come back as a boomerang and behead them.  

[plvbob0070]

Both economies will be affected by this conflict if this will grow more. Since both of them are benefiting from each other. Just like what OP mentioned, they have a big population which will have an impact on both economies since China is acting as the producer while India is the consumer.

However, I don't think there's something to worry about banning Chinese apps. I mean, we've been seeing issues recently about the Chinese app (TikTok) is used in spying its users. And why would it be an issue if India decided to ban Chinese apps when in the first place, China bans a lot of foreign apps in their country. And I've also heard that due to the current pandemic, India is promotion local to help their economy, and it's not just about the conflict between the two countries.

[Alert31]

To summarize the situation-No country in the world trusts China anymore.
China has been acting pretty sneaky after the coronavirus pandemic.They simply want to spy everyone.
I don't think that the upcoming trade war between India and China will have any impact over the global trade.
90 billion dollar import is not such a big amount.
India will slowly decrease it's dependence from Chinese import (by using the good old protectionist policies of reducing the import and stimulating domestic production)while China might become more isolated from the rest of the world-both economically and politically.The western countries will soon follow India's example.

China seems to be the culprit ,the perpetrator of everything. I don't think if the tensions will worsen between nations against China if the cure of this Covid 19 virus still have not been discovered. If it will happen ,this will really affect on global trade which can also be a big problem to our economy.