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July 14, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
Last edit: July 14, 2020, 12:43:45 PM by BIT-BENDER
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In a brief and hopefully interesting summary I would want to correct wrong view -newbies-. Whatever you think, good qualities in you, can be shadowed with or by what your thoughts are,

What is an Erroneous view?
It can be mistaken,wrong, bad, not inline contemplations or believe , newbies can fall into -can I say a mountain of erroneous views-


            Erroneous view
+The forum is not for -newbies/low rank-
+ Newbie makes a post, newbie get tackled for it
+ Newbies can't learn or learning is not something for newbies
+ Newbies can't get merit,
+ No chance in hell can newbie rank up
+ Newbies are forever/permanent spammers
        Correcting the Erroneous view
+E.V 1. Come on newbies give your self a break and stop using a shovel to dig your grave, may I tell you the required merit to move out of a newbie level is one, let me sound that again, IT TAKES ONLY ONE MERIT. How many merit giveaway are newbies the point Target? All.

+E.V 2. I know many newbie first post that get/attract good consciousness, and if the post can have 15-20% clarity and organisation can get merit. Newbie if I where you I will post - if you don't want to grow then be scared or attack/criticism-

+EV3. As newbie you may/may not suckle in the knowledge or learn super quick. As you continue, and disposing away Erroneous views you are bound to learn.

+EV4. Holy smokes, as a newbie this view are the metals that builds your cage and you start getting stagnant. And to break out it has to be cleared. As I said on the EV1 Merit giveaway is for newbies and -low rank- cash in on it. Also some people even merit source send merit to newbies that if it was another rank that made that post it won't get merit.

+EV5. Correct from EV1-EV4 get some activities and that's that, it can't be any harder.

+EV6.
To cut a long story short, the forum was rather an exploratory/experimental terrain for me. As such, I mimicked a few of the forum clichés, being pointless bounties and airdrops amongst them. I did a few, and soon got pretty board with them ...
If this doesn't clear EV6 then there is a big problem or this is not the forum for you.

Newbies clear all Erroneous view this once mentioned and any lodged in your minds.

PS. EV is Erroneous view

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           Erroneous view
+The forum is not for -newbies/low rank-
+ Newbie makes a post, newbie get tackled for it
+ Newbies can't learn or learning is not something for newbies
+ Newbies can't get merit,
+ No chance in hell can newbie rank up
+ Newbies are forever/permanent spammers
Sorry mate, but who exactly adopt those strange views? The newbie level is a basic level for any new comer either he is a good poster or just an unknown guest.

- If someone comes here just to ask for a specific subject, then he won't matter about his rank even if he repeats the visit several times.
- If someone comes here and want to stay to build a profile, then he should know that upgrading in ranks requires more than just rising in post/activity counts.
- If someone comes here, willing to build a good forum user profile, and have those Erroneous, then he is surely either an arrogant person or an ignorant who just want to attack others to cover his ignorance and lack of knowledge.
We have all started as newbies here. If someone ignore this fact, then he is surely living in his own delusion world.

To be honest, i don't see a valid reason to create this topic. Maybe you are seeking for some additional merits (which completely legit) But your topic seems to be good as a reply to someone who post those bad thoughts rather than posting them as an informative subject, which is not. Sorry to say this, but this is how i see things .
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July 14, 2020, 02:17:09 PM
Last edit: July 14, 2020, 03:08:12 PM by Charles-Tim
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To be honest, i don't see a valid reason to create this topic. Maybe you are seeking for some additional merits (which completely legit) But your topic seems to be good as a reply to someone who post those bad thoughts rather than posting them as an informative subject, which is not. Sorry to say this, but this is how i see things .
The erroneous view is about how newbies are getting things wrongly, thinking the forum is not friendly with newbies, but they are getting it wrong, that is what the topic is all about. It is just like a student blaming a kind lecturer that he failed him while the lecturer blaming the student he wrote nonsense. 

Newbies have to get the forum right, make authentic and quality posts but they are not ready, some even will want to argue with high ranked members which is wrong. The psychological progression of newbies is the cause of their failure and if they do not sit right and understand how the forum works they will remain newbie forever.

So, in my own view, this is not about merit, this post is an advice to newbies, many of them are here for bitcoin but to get bitcoin through a sinature is never easy,

Normally, there are few members that got merits and rank up, it is because they are not only here for bitcoin, the purpose of the forum is to make authentic solution to peoples problem about questions related to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies and also to learn. We can choose any of the two, but some members are not getting things rightly, most new members want to rank up because they want to earn but not able because they are not fit into been called high ranked member, this topic could correct them but some will always remain spammers and low quality posters.

           Erroneous view
+The forum is not for -newbies/low rank-
+ Newbie makes a post, newbie get tackled for it
+ Newbies can't learn or learning is not something for newbies
+ Newbies can't get merit,
+ No chance in hell can newbie rank up
+ Newbies are forever/permanent spammers
You are just right, these are erroneous views from many newbies, newbies and low ranked members should think right and think that there are some newbies like them before but are making authentic posts and getting merits and ranking up. If they make quality posts too, they will get merits and rank up.

Newbies get tackled because they want to contribute but contribute rubbish, I have even contributed rubbish before but I was corrected and I accepted but some newbies will not want to accept what high ranked members are correcting them about.




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July 14, 2020, 11:38:56 PM
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I would say that the actual root cause of all of these "Newbies can't..." views, is the very erroneous view that this forum is a money-making/get rich quick opportunity... Undecided

Users sign up here thinking they will make "Easy $$$"™ by joining up to campaigns and making a few posts/tweets etc... only to find that newbies can't join campaigns... and then they discover they need "merit". Suddenly, they realise that their "Easy $$$"™ quest has turned into an "arduous" ordeal to try and get 1 merit point. Roll Eyes

And then the inevitable "It's impossible for Newbies to get merit/rank up" type thoughts and posts start. Undecided

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July 15, 2020, 01:34:47 AM
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I would say that the actual root cause of all of these "Newbies can't..." views, is the very erroneous view that this forum is a money-making/get rich quick opportunity... Undecided

Users sign up here thinking they will make "Easy $$$"™ by joining up to campaigns and making a few posts/tweets etc... only to find that newbies can't join campaigns... and then they discover they need "merit". Suddenly, they realise that their "Easy $$$"™ quest has turned into an "arduous" ordeal to try and get 1 merit point. Roll Eyes

And then the inevitable "It's impossible for Newbies to get merit/rank up" type thoughts and posts start. Undecided
I agree with you that thinking of this forum as a money making forum is the root of all erroneous view about this forum. Why would a newbie think that earning a merit in this forum is very hard. To be exact, what is the reason in the first place why there is a merit requirement of rank?. I have seen other person start from newbie on 2019 and that person is now higher in rank comparison to mine.

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July 15, 2020, 06:27:53 AM
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I would say that the actual root cause of all of these "Newbies can't..." views, is the very erroneous view that this forum is a money-making/get rich quick opportunity... Undecided

Users sign up here thinking they will make "Easy $$$"™ by joining up to campaigns and making a few posts/tweets etc... only to find that newbies can't join campaigns... and then they discover they need "merit". Suddenly, they realise that their "Easy $$$"™ quest has turned into an "arduous" ordeal to try and get 1 merit point. Roll Eyes

And then the inevitable "It's impossible for Newbies to get merit/rank up" type thoughts and posts start. Undecided
Thanks @HCP this is a gigantic Erroneous contemplations. Reason why many of -newbies/lower rank member. Has their profile smeared by bounty weekly report, spamming. But this Erroneous view will not be a catastrophe /menace if newbies can see there better package when they open up the shelf and stuff this view in there for some time.

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July 15, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
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Truth remains that newbies who have this "Newbies can't" mentality are already defeated in their approach here. It is actually fallacious to reason that way and I don't think anyone would want to haunt any newbie because of their perceived low rank. Remember that every experienced person was once inexperienced, and every adult was once a baby.

I have seen certain newbie accounts that sincerely thrilled me with their inherent expanse of tech knowledge that I wondered if they were truly newbies. I don't hesitate to merit such ones whenever I stumble on their posts. Newbies should try and write well, and stop thinking of signature campaign for the time being.

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It depends on the newbies. If some newbies keep that kind of mindset, I don't think they are even serious in learning and I doubt that they would even last here in the forum. A lot of users here started from being a newbie just like them, but they were able to rank up and stay longer here in the forum because they were eager to learn.

I also don't get why some newbies think something like it's impossible for them to earn merits when in fact, a lot of users are generous in giving merits. You just need to be deserving by giving a quality post.
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July 15, 2020, 01:21:19 PM
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I would say that the actual root cause of all of these "Newbies can't..." views, is the very erroneous view that this forum is a money-making/get rich quick opportunity... Undecided

Users sign up here thinking they will make "Easy $$$"™ by joining up to campaigns and making a few posts/tweets etc... only to find that newbies can't join campaigns... and then they discover they need "merit". Suddenly, they realise that their "Easy $$$"™ quest has turned into an "arduous" ordeal to try and get 1 merit point. Roll Eyes

And then the inevitable "It's impossible for Newbies to get merit/rank up" type thoughts and posts start. Undecided

I guess it has something to do on who and how they are invited in this forum, let me give you an example a friend on facebook posted something about a Cryptocurrency project or ICO  in his Facebook feeds, a friend asks him about the project, then he told the friend that he is participating in a social media bounty campaign and he is going to receive a portion of the token from the project that he can trade in the market and it will cost hundreds or thousands of dollars I have so many friends like this in some of my social media account.
And the friend will sign up here thinking that he can earn  thousands of dollars doing those simple things and then he found out the truth and it's game over for him.

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