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July 14, 2020, 03:21:39 PM
Last edit: July 14, 2020, 03:34:47 PM by Daniel91
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FatFork, I think that already enough members shared their opinions here and even campaign manager explained his decision to you.
If you still feel that campaign manager is not fair to you than I suggest you to simple change signature campaign.
It's obvious that this topic fulfilled its purpose and I believe you received desired answers.
You may lock this topic now.

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July 14, 2020, 03:59:59 PM
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I would still like CryptopreneurBrainboss to clarify which sections aren't welcomed (because that's not stated in the campaign terms) and by what criteria he rejected most of my 25 posts even though they weren't just one line comments or spam.

But yes, you’re probably right and I’ll lock the topic if he doesn’t respond in a day or two.

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July 14, 2020, 11:59:30 PM
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I would still like CryptopreneurBrainboss to clarify which sections aren't welcomed (because that's not stated in the campaign terms) and by what criteria he rejected most of my 25 posts even though they weren't just one line comments or spam.

But yes, you’re probably right and I’ll lock the topic if he doesn’t respond in a day or two.


I think this is more of a signature rules question from you. I guess you will get more appropriate answer if you post this on signature campaign thread. Also maybe is there some people who's already talked with manager about accepted sections for paid posts. you can't be sure that Brainboss reading what you saying here.
Anyway, you always can leave the campaign and try to participate in some other. You are so close to new rank, and there is more possibility for you to join in sig. campaign.

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July 15, 2020, 05:00:44 AM
Last edit: July 15, 2020, 10:44:59 AM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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I have already aired my view on this topic before don't get what you want me here for again. Any user who think barely meeting up the minimum post requirements with just one line, generic or absolute spam comments who recieve additional attention from me and will definitely get punished. You're not the first and won't be the last. I have demoted users from Teir A and B on different occasions as those users you point figure weren't even in the top tiers when I took over campaign, also when users make more than 60 post even though some got denied I don't have to update the spreadsheet with that since they already met the maximum posts requirements.

When you post username or participant in some weekly draws (game) on the game and round boards, do you expect me to count that towards your weekly eligible posts count? You had about 3 or more of such comment from the 25 you made, others that got your eligible post reduced were one line comments.

Improve on your post delivery that's all I have to say don't forget before last two week you got your post counted and pay for correctly. Very active users promoting the project in the best way they can and in the best interest of the campaign and forum are waiting patiently to rank up, I can't denied them of that opportunity when it present itself, we're only in search of very active users of the community, if you can't meet up, you're free to use the door.

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July 15, 2020, 07:42:55 AM
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FatFork I would agree with Daniel91 and my suggestion is to move on and look for some other opportunity for signature campaigns.
No need to talk more about this issue or ask for more explanation from manager Brainboss.
You can lock this topic now.

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July 15, 2020, 10:23:13 AM
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I have already aired my view on this topic before don't get what you want me here for again. Any user who think barely meeting up the minimum post requirements with just one line, generic or absolute spam comments who recieve additional attention from me and will definitely get punished. You're not the first and won't be the last. I have demoted users from Teir A and B on different occasions as those users you point figure weren't even in the top tiers when I took over campaign, also when users make more than 60 post even though some got denied I don't have to update the spreadsheet with that since they already met the maximum posts requirements.

So it's all about quantity, not quality? And, in fact, there is no 'quality standard' you were talking about. You basically say that if I make 60 or more (useless) posts a week, I will never get on your radar or get punished? Isn’t that obvious support for forum spamming?

When you post username or participant in some weekly draws (game) on the game and round boards, do you expect me to count that towards your weekly eligible posts count? You had about 3 or more of such comment from the 25 you made, others that got your eligible post reduced were one line comments.

I never counted those three posts in my weekly eligible posts count. You should check your facts before making such allegations.
And, as for your second remark, what’s so bad in one line comments if they’re on topic and not generic or absolute spam?

  • Short replies are not always bad and long ones are not always good. Sometimes all that is required is a simple one word yes or no response, but stretching out an answer just to appear constructive usually has the opposite effect.

Improve on your post delivery that's all I have to say don't forget before last two week you got your post counted and pay for correctly. Very active users promoting the project in the best way they can and in the best interest of the campaign and forum are waiting patiently to rank up, I can't denied them of that opportunity when it present itself, we're only in search of very active users of the community, if you can't meet up, you're free to use the door.

PS: This is my last contribute on this thread.

I may be wrong, but as far as I know you have never demoted anyone before for not meeting the 'quality standard' but only for inactivity for two weeks in a row. It is clear that these members were selected before you took over the campaign but it is your job to actively monitor and warn participants when needed. Have you ever warned any of obvious signature spammers? Instead, you continue to promote and reward them. How is this in the best interest of the BitVest campaign and the forum? I'm sure @lightlord would agree with this too.

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I agree that I can (and should) still work on improving the quality of my posts and I am sure that will be the case as I gain more knowledge and experience on this forum. But, as I mentioned before, if forum spamming is a preferred condition for advancing in the BitVest campaign then I don’t even want to participate in it. Feel free to kick me out whenever you want if you disagree with me and if you prefer the quantity of posts over the fight against spam.

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Last edit: July 15, 2020, 04:41:11 PM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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Don't get on my nerves, if I decide not to count your one line comments, I can be justified. Over your time in the campaign I have pin pointed you as one of the users that merely make the minimum number of required post just to stay in the campaign. I do read your post which obviously had some quality in them which is why you're still a member of this campaign.

The spreedsheet is visible for everyone to review but here's a break down,
- those which are mentioned here had the following number of posts (in order from round 68 to 78; those marked with "-" are out of the campaign):
        - FatFork: 16, 15, 0, 18, 17, 25, 18, 23, 17, 16, 15
        

Like I said, you're not the first to get demoted neither would you be the last, in fact most users marked inactive since my announcement had been users trying to outsmart the inactivity rules to stay in the campaign like this user (semobo) who was demoted few weeks back to give room to the current tier A members

Maybe this might sound selfish, but I like new rules. Not because it allowed me to rank un on spreadsheet (yeah-yeah, I'm lying Grin), but because they cleaned campaign from less effective members, and open doors to new ones. If just the campaign could return to "weekly payments", it would be perfect.

Stop pointing fingers and work on yourself buddy;


Update: since it became clear this is about being accepted in a signature campaign: my statement above doesn't mean I would accept you in a campaign. There's a long way to go from "not a spammer so I can Merit you" to "wanting to encourage you financially to continue what you're doing".

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July 15, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
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@FatFork, From the arguments above, no one has called you a spammer but as an employee, you have to meet certain standards of your employer whether you like it or not. Some members like Negotiation are just lucky to stay in the campaign for so long or thats what the employer wants. Every employer has their own perspective on how the work should be done. So fighting with your Campaign Manager in public will not help you, this would only make matters worse for you in future. If you think you deserve better quit this campaign, apply for a better one.
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July 15, 2020, 04:05:57 PM
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@FatFork, From the arguments above, no one has called you a spammer but as an employee, you have to meet certain standards of your employer whether you like it or not. Some members like Negotiation are just lucky to stay in the campaign for so long or thats what the employer wants. Every employer has their own perspective on how the work should be done. So fighting with your Campaign Manager in public will not help you, this would only make matters worse for you in future. If you think you deserve better quit this campaign, apply for a better one.

Also by arguing again and again will not help him either. If i was at his place, i would have understand what the managers actually required and try to improve more.  No matter how good anyone is there is always a room for improvement and we should always try to find that little improvement  in ourselves:)

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July 15, 2020, 06:37:20 PM
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Don't get on my nerves, if I decide not to count your one line comments, I can be justified. Over your time in the campaign I have pin pointed you as one of the users that merely make the minimum number of required post just to stay in the campaign. I do read your post which obviously had some quality in them which is why you're still a member of this campaign.

Okay, it wasn't my intention to get on your nerves. I consider you a valued member of this community (especially considering your humanitarian work) and I generally support your work as a campaign manager.
What you’ve noticed from my posting history is not my way to 'keep a place in the campaign’ but, simply, my engagement here that I’m comfortable with. As you can see, my number of posts per week is more or less constant and depends on the number of topics I participate in. If nothing else, this should be an indication that I am not here to make money from sig. campaigns and I don't treat this forum as a job.

Like I said, you're not the first to get demoted neither would you be the last, in fact most users marked inactive since my announcement had been users trying to outsmart the inactivity rules to stay in the campaign like this user (semobo) who was demoted few weeks back to give room to the current tier A members

Alrighty then. As long as the same rules apply to all participants equally, I have nothing against them. I felt hurt because I got the impression that I was the only one sanctioned under the new campaign rules and, to paraphrase your words, I wasn't impressed when I looked at the posts of some other members from the spreadsheet. I hope you'll pay more attention to this and don’t allow some participants to 'outsmart the rules' by making the max number of posts each week just so they don’t get under the radar. Wink

Speaking of quoting random people from the forum, here’s another one I think is appropriate here:

I like that good forum members can make money, especially when said forum members are in poorer countries and this is a major opportunity for them. I very much do not want to destroy the sig-ad/airdrop/bounty "industry". But I am not going to tolerate people posting garbage upon garbage. If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).

I think this was published a few weeks after the merit system was introduced. Moreover, this is a good read for all forum members and especially bounty managers because they have a great responsibility to the whole community:
Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally?


Stop pointing fingers and work on yourself buddy;

One doesn't have to exclude the other.  Wink


Update: since it became clear this is about being accepted in a signature campaign: my statement above doesn't mean I would accept you in a campaign. There's a long way to go from "not a spammer so I can Merit you" to "wanting to encourage you financially to continue what you're doing".

I hear you. Nor would I, if I were a manager, accept myself into a campaign that has a limited number of spots given that there are so many more deserving members here.  Grin
But, let's cross that bridge when we get to it. I still have a long way to go in this community and, hopefully, by then I will be a somewhat more acceptable member.


@UmerIdrees, @lucifer_8 Don't worry guys about me. What bad can happen to anyone for expressing their opinion in public? Oh, wait...
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July 15, 2020, 08:05:53 PM
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@UmerIdrees, @lucifer_8 Don't worry guys about me. What bad can happen to anyone for expressing their opinion in public? Oh, wait...
Shit!  Lips sealed

Expressing an opinion in public is different then insisting on your opinion on others.

I am afraid you can never succeed if you take the path of revolt.

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July 16, 2020, 06:42:12 AM
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This may come as a surprise to the OP, but this thread has done all it needs to achieve and should probably be locked.

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July 16, 2020, 08:08:34 PM
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At least someone here appreciates my one-liners.  Wink


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