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[Tytanowy Janusz]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

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[akhjob]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

I dont know its the market leader in Poker but https://swcpoker.eu/ is good. As far as provably fair mechanism, I haven't seen any online site implementing it on Poker. You can find provably fair Blackjack and other card games in some popular sites like Stake and FJ but I haven't seen anyone having a provably fair Poker  

Edit: Looks like we have one but not many users though - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145957.0 (https://fair.poker/).

Yes, sadly its ghost town. No body is playing its only active when owners give away 50 buy ins in their Telegram

[Bttzed03]

Sportsbet and SWC seems to be the most popular here. They've sponsored tournaments exclusive for bitcointalk members in the past too. I cannot vouch for their provably fair mechanism though but maybe the members who participated in the tournaments can.

Try asking @efialtis also if there's a plan to host another one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217547.0

[Tipstar]

SWC poker is the market leader in online native crypto poker. They have a large number of players that keeps playing and a lot of table are open at any moment. There are a number of choices on games and amounts that suits your playing style. Sportsbet provides traditional fancy poker games for crypto players. They have a wide range of different games but they lacks the choices of amounts restrictions and choices.

[rhomelmabini]

Try this ongoing tourney with Bitcointalk players: #3 Bitcointalk Poker Series (0.05 BTC & BIG BTC Ticket sponsored by SwC Poker). I vouch for SwC in crypto poker, they have an active poker players, you may enjoy daily cash games with promotions and as well as tourneys. The most picked one is No Limit Holden Poker.

[iv4n]

Try this ongoing tourney with Bitcointalk players: #3 Bitcointalk Poker Series (0.05 BTC & BIG BTC Ticket sponsored by SwC Poker). I vouch for SwC in crypto poker, they have an active poker players, you may enjoy daily cash games with promotions and as well as tourneys. The most picked one is No Limit Holden Poker.

Well many of us can vouch for SwC, and many of us will recommend our bitcointalk poker series!
The most picked one is no limit, but I tried all others there. You can't find many active players on other types of poker, chinese, stud, omaha, pineapple, shortdeck. I tried all of them and for me they are interesting, I had some fun. I like their mixed games, where you play couple hand of one type, than other type and like that, they have that kind of free buy in tournament.
See you at the tables people!

[bitcoinst]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

Hi. Are you interested in poker rooms with a game for cryptocurrency or fiat? If you are interested in fiat, then according to the site pokerscout I can say that the leading ones at the moment are:

• Poker Stars

Classics of the genre. The largest and most famous poker room in the world. A large number of players at any level, nice bonuses, big tournaments.
As far as I know for regular players, the conditions are constantly getting worse, not the best rakeback, although it is present.

• GGPoker

A network consisting of several poker rooms.
Great online, many different games. Rakeback, bonuses and ongoing promotions. Launched in 2017, the network has already become large by international standards.
It is noteworthy that along with a weak field here they offer a good rake back, if you are going to play regularly.

• IDNPoker

(the site uses an insecure http protocol)
Asian network also consisting of several rooms that has overtaken such large rooms as 888poker, Winamax, PartyPoker и iPoker.
However, pro-players say that there are many bots and team players, albeit a very weak field.

[dre1982]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

Hi. Are you interested in poker rooms with a game for cryptocurrency or fiat? If you are interested in fiat, then according to the site pokerscout I can say that the leading ones at the moment are:

• Poker Stars

Classics of the genre. The largest and most famous poker room in the world. A large number of players at any level, nice bonuses.
As far as I know for regular players, the conditions are constantly getting worse, not the best rakeback, although it is present.

• GGPoker

A network consisting of several poker rooms.
Great online, many different games. Rakeback, bonuses and ongoing promotions. Launched in 2017, the network has already become large by international standards.
It is noteworthy that along with a weak field here they offer a good rake back, if you are going to play regularly.

• IDNPoker

(the site uses an insecure http protocol)
Asian network also consisting of several rooms that has overtaken such large rooms as 888poker, Winamax, PartyPoker и iPoker.
However, pro-players say that there are many bots and team players, albeit a very weak field.[/list]

Which conditions on Pokerstars are getting worse? Personally I don't haven't notice this. But maybe thats because I am not playing constantly there so don't have a lot of benefit in the leveling reward system.

[bitcoinst]

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Which conditions on Pokerstars are getting worse? Personally I don't haven't notice this. But maybe thats because I am not playing constantly there so don't have a lot of benefit in the leveling reward system.

Several times there was an increase in rake in a variety of disciplines, such as MTT, CIS, hands-up tables Zum and so on. The player has repeatedly tried to "boycott" innovations, but as a rule it is even.
But once they succeeded, in December 2015 the poker stars refused to raise the rake, but they raised it after a few months.
As far as I know, there were certain changes in the necessary conditions to obtain the highest status, which guaranteed a high rake.
How it is now, I can’t say for sure.

[dre1982]

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Which conditions on Pokerstars are getting worse? Personally I don't haven't notice this. But maybe thats because I am not playing constantly there so don't have a lot of benefit in the leveling reward system.

Several times there was an increase in rake in a variety of disciplines, such as MTT, CIS, hands-up tables Zum and so on. The player has repeatedly tried to "boycott" innovations, but as a rule it is even.
But once they succeeded, in December 2015 the poker stars refused to raise the rake, but they raised it after a few months.
As far as I know, there were certain changes in the necessary conditions to obtain the highest status, which guaranteed a high rake.
How it is now, I can’t say for sure.

Ok last years I haven't been playing that much anymore. Last time I playing daily there is 10+ year ago.

I noticed they also list a lit of pro players. They had s few players per country, now just a few left.

[sabotag3x]

Which conditions on Pokerstars are getting worse? Personally I don't haven't notice this. But maybe thats because I am not playing constantly there so don't have a lot of benefit in the leveling reward system.

Several times there was an increase in rake in a variety of disciplines, such as MTT, CIS, hands-up tables Zum and so on. The player has repeatedly tried to "boycott" innovations, but as a rule it is even.
But once they succeeded, in December 2015 the poker stars refused to raise the rake, but they raised it after a few months.
As far as I know, there were certain changes in the necessary conditions to obtain the highest status, which guaranteed a high rake.
How it is now, I can’t say for sure.

IMO the major problem with playing at PokerStars is the players level, not the rakes.. As PS is the #1 room, you will find solid players even in microstakes STT.. and things get harder as you go up..

Even, and especially, if you play just for fun, it should be better to play on other sites..

[johhnyUA]

I dont know its the market leader in Poker but https://swcpoker.eu/ is good. As far as provably fair mechanism, I haven't seen any online site implementing it on Poker. You can find provably fair Blackjack and other card games in some popular sites like Stake and FJ but I haven't seen anyone having a provably fair Poker  

If you will try cash games on https://swcpoker.eu/ there is a fairness check before the game start: all get one card from distribution and shows it to all table. This is proof of randomness of game RNG.

This is what i didn't see on some other platforms, such as sportsbet 

[xxjumperxx]

This was an interesting read as I have been playing on Pokerstars.
I am definately not a pro and am just a casual player but I have played on smaller sites before and it always seemed that the players on smaller sites were worse.
I have played Micro Stakes and even on those tables there are some serious grinders on there... its hard for me to make money there.

[ReiMomo]

Vast of majority members choice here is SWC poker and if you will check in the gambling section there are few members there conducting tournament on that gambling platform and I guess that is enough proof of which poker room you will choose to play.

You can check the provable fairness on the site itself and this are often in most online gambling casinos, that is supposedly given before you will sit in the virtual table and you can easily verify the give client seed and the hashes which is transparently seen and verified during the game. I guess this SWC poker is good for you.

Check this out! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258134.0

[Quidat]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

When searching up for crypto based one then https://swcpoker.eu would be the first in the list and others suggested the same above but there were other poker sites that do exist but sadly they
dont accept crypto into their payment options. You can check them somehow in https://poker.com if you are interested and dont mind on what kind of payment they do had.
Its a matter of preference though!

[swogerino]

I dont know its the market leader in Poker but https://swcpoker.eu/ is good. As far as provably fair mechanism, I haven't seen any online site implementing it on Poker. You can find provably fair Blackjack and other card games in some popular sites like Stake and FJ but I haven't seen anyone having a provably fair Poker  

If you will try cash games on https://swcpoker.eu/ there is a fairness check before the game start: all get one card from distribution and shows it to all table. This is proof of randomness of game RNG.

This is what i didn't see on some other platforms, such as sportsbet 

I think that when a site shows its good faith and proves its fairness it is a good thing.However showing one card from each player so anyone can see it on the table makes the game somewhar boring and predictable and I don’t think showing a card from each player is a good idea.They can come up with some sort of hashing seed or something similar which anyone can check before and after cards are shared.

[Google+]

I dont know its the market leader in Poker but https://swcpoker.eu/ is good. As far as provably fair mechanism, I haven't seen any online site implementing it on Poker. You can find provably fair Blackjack and other card games in some popular sites like Stake and FJ but I haven't seen anyone having a provably fair Poker  

If you will try cash games on https://swcpoker.eu/ there is a fairness check before the game start: all get one card from distribution and shows it to all table. This is proof of randomness of game RNG.

This is what i didn't see on some other platforms, such as sportsbet 

I think that when a site shows its good faith and proves its fairness it is a good thing.However showing one card from each player so anyone can see it on the table makes the game somewhar boring and predictable and I don’t think showing a card from each player is a good idea.They can come up with some sort of hashing seed or something similar which anyone can check before and after cards are shared.

well I totally agree with what you say even though this gambling place is trying to provide something new but at least it must stick to the protocol that gambling cannot be like that, however all cards must at least be hidden so that no cheating might occur.

[imstillthebest]

I dont know its the market leader in Poker but https://swcpoker.eu/ is good. As far as provably fair mechanism, I haven't seen any online site implementing it on Poker. You can find provably fair Blackjack and other card games in some popular sites like Stake and FJ but I haven't seen anyone having a provably fair Poker  

If you will try cash games on https://swcpoker.eu/ there is a fairness check before the game start: all get one card from distribution and shows it to all table. This is proof of randomness of game RNG.

This is what i didn't see on some other platforms, such as sportsbet 

I think that when a site shows its good faith and proves its fairness it is a good thing.However showing one card from each player so anyone can see it on the table makes the game somewhar boring and predictable and I don’t think showing a card from each player is a good idea.They can come up with some sort of hashing seed or something similar which anyone can check before and after cards are shared.

well I totally agree with what you say even though this gambling place is trying to provide something new but at least it must stick to the protocol that gambling cannot be like that, however all cards must at least be hidden so that no cheating might occur.

why not ? every site can do what they want  .the essence of gambling is still there , its just they introduce something new    . its cool imo because ive been bored of the old style of poker games and im now looking for poker with new variation  .  this site is perfect for me  . hidden cards are more harder and cheating can occur on it but if one card is already shown , that makes the game look easier for me to win because i think i can easily predict what card will show next  .

[Tytanowy Janusz]

Thanks to all of you. I'll try SWC Poker.

After hearing from you that almost none of Poker providers apply provably fair mechanism i was firstly disappointed. Then i realize that provably fair mechanism is kinda useless in player vs player type of game (which poker is). Having proof that cards are 100% randomly shuffled is not giving us proof that site owner is not scamming by simply becoming one of players and knowing every other cards. That's enough to know when to bet, when to pass and win every tournament. Have you heard about anyone ever addressing this issue in online poker?

[bitcoinst]

Which conditions on Pokerstars are getting worse? Personally I don't haven't notice this. But maybe thats because I am not playing constantly there so don't have a lot of benefit in the leveling reward system.

Several times there was an increase in rake in a variety of disciplines, such as MTT, CIS, hands-up tables Zum and so on. The player has repeatedly tried to "boycott" innovations, but as a rule it is even.
But once they succeeded, in December 2015 the poker stars refused to raise the rake, but they raised it after a few months.
As far as I know, there were certain changes in the necessary conditions to obtain the highest status, which guaranteed a high rake.
How it is now, I can’t say for sure.

IMO the major problem with playing at PokerStars is the players level, not the rakes.. As PS is the #1 room, you will find solid players even in microstakes STT.. and things get harder as you go up..

Even, and especially, if you play just for fun, it should be better to play on other sites..

Due to the worsening conditions for regular players, Poker Stars has systematically improved the conditions for recreational players, which are becoming less and less every year.
And as you noticed, more or less strong players can be found at virtually any limit. 90% of the rake is done by regular players. But without recreational players, regular players would have left the room long ago.
Therefore, the policy of PokerStars can be understood, and judging by the fact that they are still in the top online, they are probably right.

[kryptqnick]

Sportsbet and SWC seems to be the most popular here. They've sponsored tournaments exclusive for bitcointalk members in the past too. I cannot vouch for their provably fair mechanism though but maybe the members who participated in the tournaments can.

Try asking @efialtis also if there's a plan to host another one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217547.0

There've been poker tournaments on Sportsbet.io, but there's no poker anymore. At least, for now. While poker seems to be quite a popular game in fiat online casinos, somehow it's not a big thing in the crypto community. Not anymore, perhaps, as it has been quite popular a few years ago. So for now it's not that simple to find a reputable website that has good poker and accepts cryptos. But SWC seems legit, so it might be a good option for the op, so this person's made a good choice of giving it a go.

[Bttzed03]

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There've been poker tournaments on Sportsbet.io, but there's no poker anymore.

Thanks for that info.

~ Having proof that cards are 100% randomly shuffled is not giving us proof that site owner is not scamming by simply becoming one of players and knowing every other cards. That's enough to know when to bet, when to pass and win every tournament. Have you heard about anyone ever addressing this issue in online poker?

There may have been cases of site owners posing as one of the players (I'm not really sure) but I can't say if they also know the cards coming out. That's what RNG are for right? If you also doubt the fairness of the RNG, then just compete against players you know like the tournament exclusive for bitcointalk members or just play land-based.

Here's another site btw - PokerShares
They must have heard you 

[akhjob]

Thanks to all of you. I'll try SWC Poker.

After hearing from you that almost none of Poker providers apply provably fair mechanism i was firstly disappointed. Then i realize that provably fair mechanism is kinda useless in player vs player type of game (which poker is). Having proof that cards are 100% randomly shuffled is not giving us proof that site owner is not scamming by simply becoming one of players and knowing every other cards. That's enough to know when to bet, when to pass and win every tournament. Have you heard about anyone ever addressing this issue in online poker?

Never heard of it. But if you are worried that the site owner is scamming by becoming one of the players and knowing every other cards, may be you should play with the community members or a private room of friends.

[MCobian]

To be honest I am not that interested in poker games, but based on the reviews I read. SWC Poker is becoming the market leader
in the poker industry. Because there are so many active players participating in the tournament, then related to provably fair mechanism,
I dare not guarantee. Because I have never been play poker at SWC poker. For alternative poker sites, you can try Poker Stars, based on
the reviews I read, Poker Stars has a tournament very nice. And also many bonuses are distributed, of course many active players from
various ability levels.

[Fredomago]

Thanks to all of you. I'll try SWC Poker.

After hearing from you that almost none of Poker providers apply provably fair mechanism i was firstly disappointed. Then i realize that provably fair mechanism is kinda useless in player vs player type of game (which poker is). Having proof that cards are 100% randomly shuffled is not giving us proof that site owner is not scamming by simply becoming one of players and knowing every other cards. That's enough to know when to bet, when to pass and win every tournament. Have you heard about anyone ever addressing this issue in online poker?

Never heard of it. But if you are worried that the site owner is scamming by becoming one of the players and knowing every other cards, may be you should play with the community members or a private room of friends.

It might be possible but building reputations from this business, I'm skeptical that the house owner will not do that since they are looking for long term engagements with the gamblers  who are patronizing their business, it's not usual to anyone who wanted to grow with the business to act like that, every casino owners wanted to established their names and make sure that the players will keep coming back and continue using their platform, else, playing with offshores casino house will be your best option.

[serjent05]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

You can check this list I found on the internet :

https://professionalrakeback.com/what-online-poker-sites-accept-bitcoin
https://cryptomaniaks.com/best-bitcoin-poker-sites
https://www.vip-grinders.com/cryptocurrency-poker-sites/

Those sites listed in there accept Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

The online gambling site that I always played is in Ignitioncasino and PPPoker because these sites are fair and safe to play, and I don't have any problems or issues in their service. But PPPoker does not accept bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies that it only takes USD and EUR. Unlike Ignitioncasino it accepts Bitcoin and USD.

[Kupid002]

How about blackjack.fun they have a campaign before  here I don't know if the campaign still running.  I tried the games once and I don't have any problem playing in that website the only problem if they have enough players now to play with PvP since many people prepared to play with real players.

[Darker45]

How about blackjack.fun they have a campaign before  here I don't know if the campaign still running.  I tried the games once and I don't have any problem playing in that website the only problem if they have enough players now to play with PvP since many people prepared to play with real players.

From the name itself, the site is offering blackjack and not poker.

I had a quick try on their site before and the only available game there was blackjack. I can neither confirm nor deny if they have already developed their site further and made available poker games. If they didn't, then you still cannot play poker there.

[dre1982]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

You can check this list I found on the internet :

https://professionalrakeback.com/what-online-poker-sites-accept-bitcoin
https://cryptomaniaks.com/best-bitcoin-poker-sites
https://www.vip-grinders.com/cryptocurrency-poker-sites/

Those sites listed in there accept Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency.

If I play poker I play on PokerStars and there you can indirectly deposit with cryptocurrency. Just create a Neteller account. You can deposit bitcoin to Neteller and then simple deposit to PokerStars with Neteller. Works like a charm.

[peter0425]

How about blackjack.fun they have a campaign before  here I don't know if the campaign still running.  I tried the games once and I don't have any problem playing in that website the only problem if they have enough players now to play with PvP since many people prepared to play with real players.

OP asking for Poker mate and not Blackjack.

anyway there are some Poker tournament has just ended recently even there are still pandemic.

and yeah I am not a fan of poker online,instead I love this in real casino .

Because I can see the reactions of the people around the table,But I really love
 this playing with my real friends in our community.

[bitcoinst]

If I play poker I play on PokerStars and there you can indirectly deposit with cryptocurrency. Just create a Neteller account. You can deposit bitcoin to Neteller and then simple deposit to PokerStars with Neteller. Works like a charm.

However, this is not entirely convenient. Firstly, as far as I know, Neteller does not work with all countries. Secondly, this is not a direct deposit.
If I am not mistaken, then you will have to withdraw funds only where the deposit came from, the question is whether there will be difficulties with the neteller-bitcoin reverse conversion when withdrawing?
Nevertheless, I agree that it is better than nothing.

[tokeweed]

Hello. Just wanted to try online Poker playing. Who is currently the market leader (most active players, good tournaments) in POKER industry? Is provably fair mechanism common on poker sites?

Hi. Are you interested in poker rooms with a game for cryptocurrency or fiat? If you are interested in fiat, then according to the site pokerscout I can say that the leading ones at the moment are:

• Poker Stars

Classics of the genre. The largest and most famous poker room in the world. A large number of players at any level, nice bonuses, big tournaments.
As far as I know for regular players, the conditions are constantly getting worse, not the best rakeback, although it is present.

• GGPoker

A network consisting of several poker rooms.
Great online, many different games. Rakeback, bonuses and ongoing promotions. Launched in 2017, the network has already become large by international standards.
It is noteworthy that along with a weak field here they offer a good rake back, if you are going to play regularly.

• IDNPoker

(the site uses an insecure http protocol)
Asian network also consisting of several rooms that has overtaken such large rooms as 888poker, Winamax, PartyPoker и iPoker.
However, pro-players say that there are many bots and team players, albeit a very weak field.

I think everbody should just stay away from Stars and stick to the softer sites suggested above.

And no...  There are no 'provably fair' poker sites.  You just have to trust the site and plow on (if you can) everytime you get ridiculously long streaks of bad beats after beats after beats.  Lol.

[sabotag3x]

anyway there are some Poker tournament has just ended recently even there are still pandemic.

and yeah I am not a fan of poker online,instead I love this in real casino .

Because I can see the reactions of the people around the table,But I really love
 this playing with my real friends in our community.

Talking about the pandemic effect in poker.. Did you see the guy who won a WSOP bracelet playing in a parking lot[1]??

Online poker have its advantages too, it's easier to take notes and track opponent styles..



[1] https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/world-of-poker/Vlogger-wins-bracelet-in-a-parking-lot_113990/

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

Thanks to all of you. I'll try SWC Poker.

After hearing from you that almost none of Poker providers apply provably fair mechanism i was firstly disappointed.

Online bitcoin casino pokers has been a ghost town for most of the time AFAIK. This was one of the primary reason for the shutdown of FJ poker room early in 2017. Meanwhile, if you don't really want to depend on the famous SWC poker, you can probably go with famous poker sites like BetOnline. They are indeed accepting bitcoin as payment methods and Bovada is one such famous gambling site with bitcoin integration if you are situated in USA.

Depending on 2 or more gambling sites for games like Poker is good enough.On top of that, Bovada functions exactly like a bitcoin gambling casino where both withdrawals and deposits can be done with bitcoin and BCH. If you aren't from USA, using sites like Bovada could be a little risky with VPN as you could be banned from using their service if you are caught for the VPN act!

[Tytanowy Janusz]

Thanks again to everyone for help. I'm locking this tread since everything is clear now. I'm testing SWC currently and it looks more than enough for me now.