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July 25, 2020, 04:51:27 AM
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so from this what is see is crypto is not really "secure" coin. someone new always going to fall for such scam. Its really not for normal people and business, its the currency for scammers and businesses who do illegal trades and wants to hide transactions from authorities.
Without enough knowledge, not just crypto but even simple UPI payments have been used to scam people. People have been scammed into giving away their PIN and credit card details.

from my view apart from some individul investor, it is mainly used for illegal transactions to hide from laws.
You are talking about the "black money" issue and crime money. The point is that this is just a convenient excuse for the authorities. Bitcoin is particularly targeted because people see Bitcoin as a method to weaken the control of central banks and the government. Bitcoin is an inflation-free, peer-to-peer asset for the people of the world which cannot be confiscated and cannot be exposed without your permission. It can be moved across borders and between people with just a list of words. This does not mean that it is illegal. If you are a law-abiding citizen who pays his taxes, what right does anybody have to know how much wealth you have? What right does your bank, tax authorities, search engines have to monitor your spending patterns? Yet, keeping law-abiding citizens in fear while letting criminals roam free, even help them get elected, is what happens in reality.

Bitcoin targets high level corruption. Bitcoin transactions are traceable and available to the public. Imagine if government expenditure was done using bitcoin. It would be the end of middlemen and under-handed deal with every transaction up for verification on a public database. It is the perfect solution but it takes power away from our politicians and babus. So, they choose the option to demonize it instead. As an individual, if you fail to see it then it is your problem, not bitcoin's. Bitcoin is a technology based on mathematics, computers science and cryptography. It couldn't care less what we feel. The only important thing is that keeping a part of your wealth as bitcoin is your own insurance.
 
is there a real reasons to not trust central bank or they dont trust because everyone says they dont trust? just like news channels play mindgames on election time. again im not supporting anyone, its a genuine question i want to know why everyone dont trust their central bank.
You are right. A lot of those blogs, especially being written by jobless Indians, simply copy verbatim that "i don't trust banks", without even understanding the underlying arguments, some of which i have explained above. Bitcoin gives you the power to be your own bank. A bank keeps your money safe in the form of numbers on their central ledger. Bitcoin is a decentralized method of maintaining that ledger that does not depend on any bank or any governments guarantee. The value of US governments guarantee isn't the same as that of Zimbabwe or Venezuela. When economies collapse, it can happen anywhere. With bitcoin, we have a worldwide system where people are willing to bet money on it and you can exchange it for value in any part of the world, if you can find the right people. It is a system based on people themselves, not on anything else.

When we talk about not trusting banks, its the central banks that follow the policy of printing money to help rich businesses tide over blunders caused by themselves. This system rewards those who exploit it the most. The people who lose are the middle class whose investments lose value as more and more money is pumped into the system.

There is a lot to understand before you can decide whether bitcoin is for you or not.
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July 25, 2020, 06:04:23 AM
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for this attack, the btc is being sent internally from another blockchain wallet right? so whoever doing this attack has the coin in his blockchain wallet. their system must registered how many times he did speed spend attack and blockchain can move the available btc(if not fully) to the person who lost in this, after all its their official wallet not other party wallet.
1. Whether BTC is sent from Blockchain wallet to Blockchain wallet or from a different wallet to blockchain wallet. The balance and the transaction details appear almost instantly as soon as the blockchain.com wallet detects an incoming transaction... This does not necessarily mean you have received the bitcoins yet. You have to check if the transaction has been confirmed. It's a common feature with other exchanges and casinos though I don't like it.

2. They make is so clear that they can not assist as an intermediary in payment disputes. Your wallet, Your transactions, Your funds, Your responsibility.
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Contact the platform, exchange, or party from which you expected to receive funds. Please note that the Blockchain.com support team cannot assist as an intermediary in payment disputes.
https://support.blockchain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000575926-I-was-expecting-to-receive-funds-but-have-not-received-them-yet



The link on blockchain.com shows an Android wallet. If an address was generated on this wallet, how can that address say "This BTC address is unused". If the balance shows up on the "blockchain" wallet for an unconfirmed transaction, that means they should be acting as the escrow or arbitrator for such a transaction. Judging from the fact that the OPs incoming transactions never got confirmed, Blockchain.com effectively "ALLOWS" such a double-spend attack.
Even if the address is generated, if it doesn't receive any confirmed transaction, it still remains unused.
I also don't like how they show the balance even before the transactions gets a single confirmation.
Here is an example of how another Blockchain wallet user got confused because of the same thing and got scammed off BTC worth $2000 - Help with a missing Bitcoin transaction


so from this what is see is crypto is not really "secure" coin. someone new always going to fall for such scam. Its really not for normal people and business, its the currency for scammers and businesses who do illegal trades and wants to hide transactions from authorities. only reason i wanted to try this because it dont have big transaction fee, currency conversion fee like paypal. atleast in paypal we can win charge backs. im just going to sweep this under rug as unexpected monthly loss and going back to traditional secure currency. im actually glad it learned this early at 900$ not at 900k$.  Thank you to everyone who took time to explain things.
I'm sorry from your lost but people take advantage of what is good and makes demon out of it. Crypto offer individuals the possibility of owing, dictate and have full control of what to do with it without anyone holding or performing transaction for you. This is why it is so important to fully understand everything about crypto before start transaction. Just because people dupe you doesn't make crypto a bad thing.
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July 25, 2020, 06:33:39 AM
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~i looked around and read some blogs about crypto, the 1st point everyone says is they dont trust their central bank.
where can central bank run with whole countries wealth?, out of this planet? is there a real reasons to not trust central bank or they dont trust because everyone says they dont trust? just like news channels play mindgames on election time. again im not supporting anyone, its a genuine question i want to know why everyone dont trust their central bank.

It's getting far from losing $900.
Maybe you are just on the wrong blog. Have you thought about that?
Maybe you just didn't read more before making a transaction in cryptocurrencies.

If you preferred fiat then stay that way. You tried to sell your goods in a different way which you are not used to or know nothing about.
You cannot just blame that with your mistakes or lack of knowledge.
Move on, learn from it. There will always be scammers everywhere, in fiat or in cryptocurrencies.

You don't know how many of us have done mistakes too and lose a lot more than that.
The difference is we don't blame the technology.
Sorry for your loss.
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July 25, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
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This happened to me this month as well. I inside my blockchain wallet exchanged the USD TO BTC back, should have had 245 bucks worth of Bitcoin, after some technical mumbo jumbo support tickets back and forth I now find my wallet emptied out of the money. I have no idea why blockchain dot com has taken my money lol. I can use other addresses within BLOCKCHAIN DOT COM but this one that had the 245 is now empty. Can anyone explain that? Why are our funds being siphoned off?


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July 25, 2020, 04:20:34 PM
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Who exactly referred you to make use of the Blockchain wallet? You made a mistake mate, you should have used the main wallet you have been using to receive Bitcoin before now and that’s Exodus (I don’t know for the Unocoin you mentioned). If it’s the guy you did business with that referred you to make use of the Blockchain wallet, then maybe he was planning a double spend attack on you.

Apart from that, I think Blockchain wallet is having some kind of bugs, because earlier this year my friend lost $7,000 he stored in a Blockchain wallet (or maybe it was hacked). Since, then I have been careful with using that wallet. I have stopped making use of blockchain we wallet once they upgraded their services in a way we are unable to have access to our privatekeys.
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