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September 20, 2021, 09:06:03 PM |
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I don't really know what to say about this Barca game. Just sadness. Ok, Araujo goal saved from complete disaster. But players celebrated this goal like they scored it in Champions League final. But this goal probably means that Koeman won't be sacked for one week more... I know that few upcoming seasons will be difficult for Barca, but this fact don't make watching their games less painful... And referee, wtf he was doing today?
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September 20, 2021, 09:46:46 PM |
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I'm really not sure about the Over 2.5, but I'd expect Barca to win the game too... 0-1 down HT bookies have the Over @1.6, i see value here cos i have no doubts they can turn things around (Granada are just bad), but tbh, the damage is done, Barca are wounded and everyone knows it. Look at Sociedad, Getafe and now Granada, every team arrives at the Camp nou knowing that they no longer need to play defensively to get a good result, there's no fear, only disrespect to one of the juggernauts of europe (during their golden era) It's the draw they'd have to settle for, it's really pathetic what have become of the Barcelona team, not even the slightest of attacking alternatives is available for the team, Imagine substituting Pique and playing him as the centre striker's position, lol right ? at least it paid off, as he was directly involved with build up for the equalizers. I can even imagine playing Real Madrid or Atletico Madrid at this stage... It's going to be a huge humiliation.
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September 21, 2021, 11:23:53 AM |
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~snip
I can even imagine playing Real Madrid or Atletico Madrid at this stage... It's going to be a huge humiliation.
maybe with Real, Atletico is also playing good and bad tonight with Getafe will be interesting, Getafe is probably top candidate for Segunda, and Atletico has two draws in a row, with solid teams, but wins were widely expected and Bilbao is playing Rayo, and @1.9 it is a solid value bet, Bilbao showed good form this season, had already played Barca and Atletico, and still does not have a defeat
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September 21, 2021, 11:59:57 AM |
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I can even imagine playing Real Madrid or Atletico Madrid at this stage... It's going to be a huge humiliation.
heh! didn't expect Barca to shit the bed last night rumours say that Pirlo, Cocu and even Gattuso are among the candidates to be the next manager...man, as a RM fan, i'm having a blast watching the barcelona circus...Andrea Pirlo, ffs!! 😂🤣 tonight with Getafe will be interesting, Getafe is probably top candidate for Segunda, and Atletico has two draws in a row, with solid teams, but wins were widely expected Getafe are gonna lose today and then sack the manager, and it's only week 5 in the league...they'll definitely join granada, espanyol, celta and alaves in the relagation race
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September 21, 2021, 12:22:48 PM |
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I don't really know what to say about this Barca game. Just sadness. Ok, Araujo goal saved from complete disaster. But players celebrated this goal like they scored it in Champions League final. But this goal probably means that Koeman won't be sacked for one week more... I know that few upcoming seasons will be difficult for Barca, but this fact don't make watching their games less painful... And referee, wtf he was doing today?
it is very unfortunate for a great team like barcelona, having to struggle to get one goal, and can only get one point, barcelona seems to have lost the spirit of the champion, in the european league barca was defeated by bayern munich, and in the league barca is now in 7th position standings, maybe the fate of barcelona will be the same as the fate of mariam london.. barcelona used to be feared but now barcelona is helpless..
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September 21, 2021, 12:37:21 PM |
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@Trofo, I am a Real Madrid guy. Been behind them since I was like 10 years old. You can add that as my favorite time in the OP When last season Zidane failed to get a single title Ancelotti returned to the position of his former assistant coach Zidane. The return of Don Carlo is the beginning of a performance increase and a change in Los Blancos' playing style with him. Some players who were not so outstanding with Zidane, have become important players with Ancelotti, I am very sure this year Real Madrid will be able to lift the title again..
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September 21, 2021, 01:50:12 PM |
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So, most people are saying another draw or a slim Atletico win. And that's what I'm going for too... But is anyone actually considering them losing their perfect record today? Not that perfect means anything. Ask Villareal with 4 draws. I can even imagine playing Real Madrid or Atletico Madrid at this stage... It's going to be a huge humiliation.
Honestly feel bad for them, just watching. This isn't even a case of sorry lack of talent, like when Arsenal tried to play their old game without the right personnel. This is as if, there's no more plan, no more philosophy, just "let's go out and try not to suffer too much".
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September 21, 2021, 05:41:35 PM |
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So, most people are saying another draw or a slim Atletico win. And that's what I'm going for too... But is anyone actually considering them losing their perfect record today? Not that perfect means anything. Ask Villareal with 4 draws. I can even imagine playing Real Madrid or Atletico Madrid at this stage... It's going to be a huge humiliation.
Honestly feel bad for them, just watching. This isn't even a case of sorry lack of talent, like when Arsenal tried to play their old game without the right personnel. This is as if, there's no more plan, no more philosophy, just "let's go out and try not to suffer too much". You get my actual point about what Koeman is bringing to the squad, he's literally clueless. It's even understandable when there is a coach trying to implement he's own style or philosophy sometime without the right players or neeed squad, as we've seen with Klopp, Pep and Tuchel, even supposedly tactically outdated Mourinho does have a style he tries to integrate into a team. It's not the same with Koeman and he would make a bad squad worse over the course of the season, if allowed.
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September 21, 2021, 08:36:59 PM |
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Oh Suarez, you lovely, lovely beast. Pulled your team out of the dumps once again, of course Getafe's red card helped but they deserved it anyway, double the possession and attempts. Saved one of my bets so far and got me the 1.5 points from Superbru... just wish I'd stuck with 2-1. Interesting club record too with Llorente the only Spaniard on the team, and the other 10 coming from 9 other different countries! It's only 6 games but Getafe can't be feeling too good 6 games and 0 points... if I were betting, my money's going to martingale on them from next match onwards
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September 21, 2021, 09:32:49 PM |
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It's only 6 games but Getafe can't be feeling too good 6 games and 0 points... if I were betting, my money's going to martingale on them from next match onwards That is very legit strategy. Was I discussing it with you last season? There was two teams from two different leagues, both without win in first 10 or 15 games. I decided to do just that, martingale until they win. They both won first game I played and I started with very small stake since martingale has a tendency of quickly getting out of hand. So successful experiment but not very profitable.
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September 22, 2021, 12:22:51 AM |
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Oh Suarez, you lovely, lovely beast. Pulled your team out of the dumps once again, of course Getafe's red card helped but they deserved it anyway, double the possession and attempts. Saved one of my bets so far and got me the 1.5 points from Superbru... just wish I'd stuck with 2-1. Interesting club record too with Llorente the only Spaniard on the team, and the other 10 coming from 9 other different countries! It's only 6 games but Getafe can't be feeling too good 6 games and 0 points... if I were betting, my money's going to martingale on them from next match onwards It impressive to say the least, Atletico Madrid last two win in all competitions have had to come at the hardest way, Suarez happened to be the hero today. Atletico Madrid themselves are not being at their usual best, especially defensively, they've conceded almost a goal per fixture so far, and they are nowhere close to playing their toughest fixtures. Getafe were fortunate to avoid relegation last season, but we can't assume it's too early to say they'll need more than luck to stay up this season if they're not even getting any points.
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September 22, 2021, 06:39:23 AM |
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So, most people are saying another draw or a slim Atletico win. And that's what I'm going for too...
But is anyone actually considering them losing their perfect record today? Not that perfect means anything. Ask Villareal with 4 draws. ~snip
Getafe actually broke their perfect record last night, they did not scored against Atletico since 2011, in 20 games, they have 16 loses and 4 draws, without scoring any goals and last time when they scored, they won 3:2, so I expected them to finish the job last night, after late first half goal, but Suarez did not thought the same, and scored two late goals to keep good score for Atletico It's only 6 games but Getafe can't be feeling too good 6 games and 0 points... if I were betting, my money's going to martingale on them from next match onwards That is very legit strategy. Was I discussing it with you last season? There was two teams from two different leagues, both without win in first 10 or 15 games. I decided to do just that, martingale until they win. They both won first game I played and I started with very small stake since martingale has a tendency of quickly getting out of hand. So successful experiment but not very profitable. agree, that it is legit, but Getafe is my first pick to get relegated this season, and would skip it for now
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September 22, 2021, 07:43:11 AM |
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That is very legit strategy. Was I discussing it with you last season? There was two teams from two different leagues, both without win in first 10 or 15 games. I decided to do just that, martingale until they win. They both won first game I played and I started with very small stake since martingale has a tendency of quickly getting out of hand. So successful experiment but not very profitable.
I don't recall, but yeah, it hasn't not worked for me and I do have a limit on martingale so even if it doesn't work I won't lose everything. The other streak I like is to bet against a winning streak (aka Man City or PSG to lose) but since I bet on big underdogs anyway, it's hard for me to see a unique opportunity in football but West Ham last season were a good candidate for this. They got on several 3/4 game winning runs, and then the bookies went crazy for them. Non-scoring streaks also trigger me, Mane, Salah, and all have won me good bets but not super profitable as you say. Martingale gets very scary, very fast, and the risk with these negative streaks is that each addition makes it psychologically more difficult, which is why you only back people who haven't lost confidence. Kane not scoring for four games is an example of that -- and Arsenal should give away a penalty at least It impressive to say the least, Atletico Madrid last two win in all competitions have had to come at the hardest way, Suarez happened to be the hero today.
Atletico Madrid themselves are not being at their usual best, especially defensively, they've conceded almost a goal per fixture so far, and they are nowhere close to playing their toughest fixtures.
They have been piling on the chances, though, maybe not last night but their 2 games before that are extremely uncharacteristic. Loading up on corners and shots, showing a willingness to use their fearsome front people. Maybe Simeone's allowing a bit more risk, hence the leak at the back. Getafe actually broke their perfect record last night, they did not scored against Atletico since 2011, in 20 games, they have 16 loses and 4 draws, without scoring any goals
Nice catch! The stuff you don't realise. Speaking of streaks, anyone betting on Everton against Liverpool finally had some joy last season after 23 games and over 10 years. I wonder how many Evertonians broke themselves on martingale...
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September 22, 2021, 05:35:30 PM |
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It impressive to say the least, Atletico Madrid last two win in all competitions have had to come at the hardest way, Suarez happened to be the hero today.
Atletico Madrid themselves are not being at their usual best, especially defensively, they've conceded almost a goal per fixture so far, and they are nowhere close to playing their toughest fixtures.
They have been piling on the chances, though, maybe not last night but their 2 games before that are extremely uncharacteristic. Loading up on corners and shots, showing a willingness to use their fearsome front people. Maybe Simeone's allowing a bit more risk, hence the leak at the back. That is my take on Atletico this season as well. It seems like Simeone finally decided to try driving without hand break pulled up and let his attacking players play. Maybe they are conceding more goals but their games are much more watchable and results are also good. I really hope they will continue with this new look, it is sort of embarrassing for La Liga Champion to be totally defense oriented. That maybe passes in Italy but I feel Spanish supporters are spoiled with Barca/Real attacking football domination.
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September 22, 2021, 06:26:29 PM |
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three fast goals by Sevilla, one own goal, but great first half and Valencia scored to make it interesting in second half as well maybe they could be back
I expect goals tonight in Madrid, maybe over4.5 or even over5.5, seems as perfect setup, Mallorca is not so defensive and Real could fit into this day full of goals in Spain and Italy
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September 22, 2021, 07:24:16 PM |
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agree, that it is legit, but Getafe is my first pick to get relegated this season, and would skip it for now
Agree about Getafe. For me it's difficult to believe that just 2 seasons ago they were playing in Europa league and even kicked out Ajax. Their squad weren't much better than now and they wrre serious overperforming with their ugly football. It impressive to say the least, Atletico Madrid last two win in all competitions have had to come at the hardest way, Suarez happened to be the hero today.
Atletico Madrid themselves are not being at their usual best, especially defensively, they've conceded almost a goal per fixture so far, and they are nowhere close to playing their toughest fixtures.
Atletico have such big attacking potential with Suarez, Griezmann, Felix and Carasco, but they still struggle to score against underdogs. Seems that under Simeone these things simply can't be different . And yeah, you have good point - conceding goals against teams like Getafe or Espanyol isn't good sign.
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September 22, 2021, 08:58:36 PM |
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I expect goals tonight in Madrid, maybe over4.5 or even over5.5, seems as perfect setup, Mallorca is not so defensive and Real could fit into this day full of goals in Spain and Italy
I hope you did put some money on the line for that ? It's 4 goals already at half time with Madrid leading 3 - 1.. It's been a really entertaining 45 minutes from both ends, despite being down by two goal, Mallorca are posing quite a lot of attacking threat. There surely should be more goals to come in the half. Atletico Madrid themselves are not being at their usual best, especially defensively, they've conceded almost a goal per fixture so far, and they are nowhere close to playing their toughest fixtures.
Atletico have such big attacking potential with Suarez, Griezmann, Felix and Carasco, but they still struggle to score against underdogs. Seems that under Simeone these things simply can't be different . And yeah, you have good point - conceding goals against teams like Getafe or Espanyol isn't good sign. Yeah, I'd agree that they've got much attacking options than they do defensively, hence the need to switch focus to where their strength lies.
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Pretty pleased with the results, even if I didn't get any exacts, Real remember how to trounce opponents, Celta got their first win, Villareal found their scoring boots too, and even Valencia reminded us not to bet on them! Still 10 points off the top but I'm cool! That is my take on Atletico this season as well. It seems like Simeone finally decided to try driving without hand break pulled up and let his attacking players play. Maybe they are conceding more goals but their games are much more watchable and results are also good. I really hope they will continue with this new look, it is sort of embarrassing for La Liga Champion to be totally defense oriented. That maybe passes in Italy but I feel Spanish supporters are spoiled with Barca/Real attacking football domination.
Yeah, I mean, I know he and his team loved their identity, and when they got Suarez it was like an amplification of that. It's great being the underdogs, I know how that feels like, but it's even better to be expected to lose but play like you want to win. I definitely am sure their fans would love them even more playing like this, and yeah, it's the Spanish league -- though now his team isn't Spanish much
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September 23, 2021, 08:06:14 AM |
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Another awful round for me. I feel like I will never get correct score, it is tough to even get close ones this season.
On the other hand, games are super entertaining and full of goals. Too bad I did not have time to watch Real yesterday it was stellar performance from whole team.
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September 23, 2021, 08:12:06 AM |
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I expect goals tonight in Madrid, maybe over4.5 or even over5.5, seems as perfect setup, Mallorca is not so defensive and Real could fit into this day full of goals in Spain and Italy
I hope you did put some money on the line for that ? It's 4 goals already at half time with Madrid leading 3 - 1.. yeah, I did put some money, although when saw ease with which Real scored, should have put more, nevertheless, pretty happy with the outcome yesterday Villarreal also showed solid football, maybe first time this season, and four goals against Elche and yeah, Valencia was down against Sevilla, three fast goals (one own goal) and it was a mission impossible to catch, two loses in a row, fate must be changed on weekend
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