[Boxing]: Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz - Oct 31

[Yaunfitda]

@bisdak40 - that's strange bro, there are a lot of questions after the fight, what is Leo wins, what belt is he going to defend? Will Davis will go up in weight or remain at 130?

I think this fight is some sort of a tune up for Davis bro, to keep him busy while waiting for this pandemic to be over. No offense to Leo's fans here but for him to win this fight is close to impossible. He maybe a volume puncher but that would change once he will be hit by those power punches of Davis and take the confidence off him. After this fight, Davis will vacate the 130 as the money fight for him is as Lightweight division. Ryan Garcia, Loma and even Linarez would be next in line for him.

Yes, that's one possibility, and I think this is a good cherry pick fight for Davis and they know that they can win this. Leo's has a good record a champion, so in paper looks like the fight is even and close. But Davis is one level high as compare to Leo. So if he wins, he will gonna call Loma or Ryan Garcia or Haney, hehehe.

And even if Leo has the height and reach advantage, he can't utilized it against a fast and very technical fighter like Davis, and the camp of Davis knows this, so the bigger guy here is Davis itself. I would like to see Davis fight Haney first, Haney have been calling Davis for sometime now, GERVONTA DAVIS RESPONDS TO DEVIN HANEY, RYAN GARCIA CALLING HIM OUT AND TERENCE CRAWFORD'S WARNING.

[pilosopotasyo]

And even if Leo has the height and reach advantage, he can't utilized it against a fast and very technical fighter like Davis, and the camp of Davis knows this, so the bigger guy here is Davis itself. I would like to see Davis fight Haney first, Haney have been calling Davis for sometime now, GERVONTA DAVIS RESPONDS TO DEVIN HANEY, RYAN GARCIA CALLING HIM OUT AND TERENCE CRAWFORD'S WARNING.

Leo Sta Cruz could be the spoiler if he beats Davis, there are mega fights ready for Davis against Haney and Garcia and the Golden Boy promotions are also cooking the Davis Garcia fight but it will not happen if Sta Cruz beat Davis, so there are so many things at stake for Davis for  this fight.

[bisdak40]

Leo Sta Cruz could be the spoiler if he beats Davis, there are mega fights ready for Davis against Haney and Garcia and the Golden Boy promotions are also cooking the Davis Garcia fight but it will not happen if Sta Cruz beat Davis, so there are so many things at stake for Davis for  this fight.

Leo Sta Cruz could be a spoiler but as i've said on my previous post, that possibility is very slim. Davis is the cash cow here and for sure his promoters are making sure that their fighter would not lose and at the same time they will hype this fight as if this is hard one for Davis to win. Sta. Cruz is not a knock out artist and he rely only on the volume of punches he threw while Davis can knock out him out cold even in round one if given the opportunity.

I usually bet on the underdog but not this one as i think this is a sure win for Davis.

[judeafante]

Leo Sta Cruz could be a spoiler but as i've said on my previous post, that possibility is very slim. Davis is the cash cow here and for sure his promoters are making sure that their fighter would not lose and at the same time they will hype this fight as if this is hard one for Davis to win. Sta. Cruz is not a knock out artist and he rely only on the volume of punches he threw while Davis can knock out him out cold even in round one if given the opportunity.

I usually bet on the underdog but not this one as i think this is a sure win for Davis.

Even if the possibility is slim there is such a thing as an upset, and he is not fighting a patsy he happens to be fighting a multi-title champion, this is boxing both fighters are entering the ring with both fighters training to hit and hurt Davis is a heavy favorite but we can always expect an upset with the kind of fighter in Sta Cruz.

[Sadlife]

That's a shame, i thought ryan garcia and gervonta davis most awaited fight could happened. Didn't expect this fight to happen and this will be probably an easy win for davis as Leo yes he's good but doesn't have the punching power or skills to beat tank.
What's the point speculating when you know what will happen. This spoils the fun and entertainment and betting in sports bookies with low reward if i win.

[suzanne5223]

That's a shame, i thought ryan garcia and gervonta davis most awaited fight could happened. Didn't expect this fight to happen and this will be probably an easy win for davis as Leo yes he's good but doesn't have the punching power or skills to beat tank.
What's the point speculating when you know what will happen. This spoils the fun and entertainment and betting in sports bookies with low reward if i win.

Speculating despite knowing what will happen will only generate more fans emotions and i dont see it chance spoiling the fun cause we cant have the same opinion.
With that been said, i believe Ryan and Davis fight will be after Leo Cruz fight cause some Davis also want it to happen so i expect him to give the fans what they wanted.

If I see the match history: champinon.info-davis-vs-santa-cruz, (Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz), Leo looks professional, but from the scores they got both: 23-37 / 0-1-0-1, it seems that Leo are superior.

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From their age 25/32, Gervonta is physically much younger, however, from more experience to Leo.

I am also curious to see a boxing match, the two of them, however, have to wait 3 months, but no problem.

Maybe, if I want to bet in their match in October, maybe I should be in the position of Leo, (Mexico).
Hopefully this boxing match schedule does not change again.

Gervonta Davis is still undefeated, this is also a huge advantage for him against Leo Santa Cruz.
And Davis still much younger.
For me, I will go for this mexican Gervonta Davis boxer, even Leo Santa Cruz got the height and reacy advantage.
This fight gonna be exciting, I am excited to see some odds and check if odds is worth to bet on.

You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.

[Pamadar]

You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.

Nailed it, that's really a very big advantage. Having a good experienced together with his skills and capabilities, he can manage to dominate his opponent, though it's not really secured as there's sill possibilities that with good insight reviews and conditioning from the
part of Santa Cruz camp, if they'll able to counter and create good strategy chance
to win is still possible.

[MCobian]

I am sure Gervonta Davis will win against Leo Santa Cruz, moreover Gervonta Davis has a younger age. This is enough to affect stamina
when fighting in the ring. I know that the advantages of Leo Santa Cruz have a volume puncher, but I believe Gervonta who fights is more
technical can overcome Santa Cruz's volume puncher. So Leo Santa Cruz can be defeated easily by Gervonta Davis. I bet big for Gervonta's
victory.

[YOSHIE]

You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.

indeed we are not talking about Davis & Cruz who lost and won, they both have good careers, only the difference age 25/32.

I remember the Hopkins boxer, at the age of 30, he won the IBF at that time and also at the age of 50 Hopkins continued to box and beat Joe Smith Jr. That time.

In this match between Davis V Cruz, there is a new history for both of them, one aged 25 and one 32, to the best of the 23-year-old boxing bettor's condition, however, from the experience I've followed.
There are boxers who have age, should retire, who want to continue to fight & fight younger, sometimes can not be considered of age, and underestimated, the way they conquer opponents mostly uses strategy, so that the experienced senior boxers that I often see, also have quite thrilling blow guns.

Bottom line: the match hasn't started yet, I'm very curious the two of them to bet between Davis V Cruz .

OP, when the match is over who loses and wins, update this topic, I want to see the greatness of both.
Thanks.

[Saisher]

This is a very rare occasion where a multi-titled fighter is an underdog to another champion, and there's a piece of evidence to prove that Gervonta Davis is a good fighter and he has an advantage because of his skills and generalship but there's a possibility of an upset because Sta Cruz is not a weak fighter.

[Latviand]

That's a shame, i thought ryan garcia and gervonta davis most awaited fight could happened. Didn't expect this fight to happen and this will be probably an easy win for davis as Leo yes he's good but doesn't have the punching power or skills to beat tank.
What's the point speculating when you know what will happen. This spoils the fun and entertainment and betting in sports bookies with low reward if i win.

I was also waiting for the Ryan Garcia and Gervonta Davis matchup but unfortunately it didn't put into its place.

Many of us are waiting for that rumor fight to happen but it didn't.

We should just support this next matchup, Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Crus which is for me, most awaited like the first matchup.

 I know that Davis is relentless and unpredictable inside the ring but we don't know if Santa Cruz will do something about it and train so hard so that he can punish Davis. This matchup will probably make a huge amount of money as many people are really hyped to see these two to brawl.

[Casdinyard]

If I see the match history: champinon.info-davis-vs-santa-cruz, (Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz), Leo looks professional, but from the scores they got both: 23-37 / 0-1-0-1, it seems that Leo are superior.



From their age 25/32, Gervonta is physically much younger, however, from more experience to Leo.

I think Gervonta has the higher possibility to win (based on my observation in his fights), as knockouts matter more than just wins and add his 23-streak wins without any loses nor draws. Also, most of the times younger ones often beat those whom have better experiences. I mean 95% KO rate of Gervonta is a huge gap and much comparable to 51% of Leo, and that was an advantage. Though Leo had won two titles, I think that wouldn't matter at all.

Hopefully this would be aired online or on my local television. I'm eager to bet and watch such a beautiful fight. 

[serjent05]

I can see something that will factor out Davis on this fight and that is the weight limit.  Several known boxers had been defeated because of the heavier boxer trimming down in weight.  And with Davis issue of having difficulty on catching up for the weight limit.  Davis may be younger but removing weight will surely take a toll on him if he will not do it the proper way.  Besides Leo Santa Cruz isn't past his prime yet.  So I think the fight can go either way.  The advantage of Davis is slightly nullified by that catchweight Division.

[Baofeng]

Leo Sta Cruz could be the spoiler if he beats Davis, there are mega fights ready for Davis against Haney and Garcia and the Golden Boy promotions are also cooking the Davis Garcia fight but it will not happen if Sta Cruz beat Davis, so there are so many things at stake for Davis for  this fight.

Leo Sta Cruz could be a spoiler but as i've said on my previous post, that possibility is very slim. Davis is the cash cow here and for sure his promoters are making sure that their fighter would not lose and at the same time they will hype this fight as if this is hard one for Davis to win. Sta. Cruz is not a knock out artist and he rely only on the volume of punches he threw while Davis can knock out him out cold even in round one if given the opportunity.

I usually bet on the underdog but not this one as i think this is a sure win for Davis.

Yes, he could be a spoiler, but I agree that Davis has all the edge in this fight. Leo is good no questions about it he has been in a lot of good fights and a champion himself, but Davis is really that good and at his prime and has a knock out power. And Leo's chin are going to be tested here and can be crack by Davis in just one punch. So the odds are against Leo here. And Davis is smart and intelligent, he won't overlook Leo here, he will win and then talk about the next money fight.

[Yaunfitda]

And even if Leo has the height and reach advantage, he can't utilized it against a fast and very technical fighter like Davis, and the camp of Davis knows this, so the bigger guy here is Davis itself. I would like to see Davis fight Haney first, Haney have been calling Davis for sometime now, GERVONTA DAVIS RESPONDS TO DEVIN HANEY, RYAN GARCIA CALLING HIM OUT AND TERENCE CRAWFORD'S WARNING.

Leo Sta Cruz could be the spoiler if he beats Davis, there are mega fights ready for Davis against Haney and Garcia and the Golden Boy promotions are also cooking the Davis Garcia fight but it will not happen if Sta Cruz beat Davis, so there are so many things at stake for Davis for  this fight.

Big "IF", on the contrary I believed that Davis will show his best here after his so-so performance against Gamboa. He will show us explosiveness, then fight on the distance, the whole package, so I don't think that Leo can handle all of that. Beside, Leo doesn't have the hands to knock out his opponents, and that's they only way he can win and derail Davis plans to fight other top boxers in 130-135 division.

[Mahanton]

If I see the match history: champinon.info-davis-vs-santa-cruz, (Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz), Leo looks professional, but from the scores they got both: 23-37 / 0-1-0-1, it seems that Leo are superior.

From their age 25/32, Gervonta is physically much younger, however, from more experience to Leo.

I think Gervonta has the higher possibility to win (based on my observation in his fights), as knockouts matter more than just wins and add his 23-streak wins without any loses nor draws. Also, most of the times younger ones often beat those whom have better experiences. I mean 95% KO rate of Gervonta is a huge gap and much comparable to 51% of Leo, and that was an advantage. Though Leo had won two titles, I think that wouldn't matter at all.

Hopefully this would be aired online or on my local television. I'm eager to bet and watch such a beautiful fight. 

When it comes to KO percentage then there no doubt that Gervonta do have it yet you can really foreseen its sheer power basing on of that percentage but i do disagree on the point you had said that
experience doesnt matter? No it is a big factor because you cant easily outboxed someone that do had much better experience that you are. Number of fights gaps does really counts because he wont able to
pile up those numbers if he's not good enough but well we can presume that younger and having some strong punching power will really have that kind of chance and can close up the gaps.

[cabron]

Gervonta Davis still is in his very prime with an incomparable reflex that can avoid a million punches while his hands are down. And with a KO record of 95%, almost all of the fighter who box with him in the ring end up kissing the floor. Whoever wants this fight to push through hates Leo Santa Cruz the most and will likely bet more than $1M for his 2nd knockout.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Gervonta Davis still is in his very prime with an incomparable reflex that can avoid a million punches while his hands are down. And with a KO record of 95%, almost all of the fighter who box with him in the ring end up kissing the floor. Whoever wants this fight to push through hates Leo Santa Cruz the most and will likely bet more than $1M for his 2nd knockout.

Mayweather who is Davis' promoter has kept him protected so it's impossible at this moment to know if it really is such a mismatch. Of course Santa Cruz naturally belongs at a lower weight class, has no power, and isn't a slick defensive fighter so that's why they cherry picked him. That being said, we can't discredit Santa Cruz's experience against championship level fighters. There is also his workrate, he is a big volume fighter. The biggest factor could end up being how well Davis can cut weight. He had problems making lightweight in his last bout and is now going back down to jr. lightweight. There is too many variables to be declaring Davis the winner so early on.

[Casdinyard]

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When it comes to KO percentage then there no doubt that Gervonta do have it yet you can really foreseen its sheer power basing on of that percentage but i do disagree on the point you had said that
experience doesnt matter? No it is a big factor because you cant easily outboxed someone that do had much better experience that you are. Number of fights gaps does really counts because he wont able to
pile up those numbers if he's not good enough but well we can presume that younger and having some strong punching power will really have that kind of chance and can close up the gaps.

I said titles Leo has doesn't matter, not his 37 game experiences. I know it matters and was a huge factor to consider upon betting on Boxing, but fight gaps doesn't really count as an advantage nor be considered when it comes to whom could really win or not. But look at Gervonta's age and his fight count, he had most (almost everything) of his fights end up in knockouts, and with their 7 year gap, I think there's even a possibility that Gervonta could double those records in those years, beating the record and even Leo's "valuable experiences" (or beat Leo himself as well)

[suzanne5223]

You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.

indeed we are not talking about Davis & Cruz who lost and won, they both have good careers, only the difference age 25/32.

I remember the Hopkins boxer, at the age of 30, he won the IBF at that time and also at the age of 50 Hopkins continued to box and beat Joe Smith Jr. That time.

In this match between Davis V Cruz, there is a new history for both of them, one aged 25 and one 32, to the best of the 23-year-old boxing bettor's condition, however, from the experience I've followed.
There are boxers who have age, should retire, who want to continue to fight & fight younger, sometimes can not be considered of age, and underestimated, the way they conquer opponents mostly uses strategy, so that the experienced senior boxers that I often see, also have quite thrilling blow guns.

Bottom line: the match hasn't started yet, I'm very curious the two of them to bet between Davis V Cruz .

Age does shouldnt be use to predict the winner of every fight cause the length of how the fighter make use of his chance and stay intact in the defensive level determine the last man standing.
Speaking of thrilling blow guns, I think youre not aware that Davis was into boxing since he was 5years old and i believe he sees boxing as something far more than a sport and also belong to experience camp.

You make some good point but it not about Davis been undefeated or age but hes an experienced fight and so calculative.

Nailed it, that's really a very big advantage. Having a good experienced together with his skills and capabilities, he can manage to dominate his opponent, though it's not really secured as there's sill possibilities that with good insight reviews and conditioning from the
part of Santa Cruz camp, if they'll able to counter and create good strategy chance
to win is still possible.

Yes, if Cruz camp can come up with a strong strategy Cruz can win and that how boxing works but Davis have multiple moves which I think will make hard for his opponent and camp to create a quick strategy like that. However, i dont think Davis will want to lose his reputation and the chance of facing Ryan.