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July 29, 2020, 03:07:54 PM
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I like your theory here but it doesn't necessarily mean you need over 90 million dollars to pump Bitcoin by 1% because technically you took your calculations in the wrong way and that is combining the top crypto exchanges where you don't necessarily need to do so because Bitcoin can be pump in just 1 exchange where you can effectively used lesser money to pump Bitcoin by 1%. Maybe create a new kind of article where you show the prices on how much people need to pump Bitcoin on each exchange rather than combining all of them.

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July 29, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
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moving Bitcoin into another address might probably will also can cause an impact of the Bitcoin price movement.
Literally they have no effect on the bitcoin's valuation because it doesn't involves in trading so there won't be increase or decrease in its price but actually if a whale moves few thousand bitcoins then it will have some psychological affect on traders so it could manipulate the price if traders responds to it.


Exactly.
But that's assuming the coin is moved to different address for reasons order than selling or buying. Maybe just moved to another address controlled by thesame person...
 I guess the whale-alert kind of services also provide or guess where large amounts are moved to be able to make better price prediction.. Moving to exchanges addresses could easily mean selling for fiat, regular trading, selling for other crypto etc




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July 29, 2020, 03:22:44 PM
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one thing that is usually neglected when talking about this particular subject is the timing and timing is everything in a market specially one like bitcoin's.
take 2017 for example. we had multiple cases of a lot of whales trying to supress the rise and sell to crash the price and prevent its rise but they lost a lot of money without the price ever changing its upward direction. looking at the orderbooks at that time would have shown a small support that could theoretically be broken easily but realistically it was a lot bigger.
why? because the time was time of rise and any drop meant a huge surge in number of buys that didn't exist before.
suffice it to say that it is the same for rise too.

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July 30, 2020, 12:15:23 AM
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I apologize for the broken link, it has been fixed now!

I agree with a lot of the discussion here. The markets are always changing, so the amount it takes to move the market 1% will change over time. Maybe there is a way we could study how much it takes to move the markets over time? Would anyone be interested in a study like that?
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July 30, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
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Plenty of platforms provide this functionality built right in, so you can easily see how much volume is needed to move the price by X%.

Taking a look at Decentr for example:

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/decentr#markets

We can see that the +2% depth is currently $7,537, whereas the -2% depth is $7,514. By halving this you can get a rough estimate of what the -1% depth is in either direction for your exchange of choice.

Simply change Decentr to whichever coin you're trying to analyze, e.g. Bitcoin:

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin#markets

Ethereum:

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum#markets

etc.

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August 01, 2020, 01:47:34 PM
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It is cool to know that there is only 50 million dollars cash required just to increase bitcoin 2% and that means about 25 million dollar or so would be required to change it 1%. But do you know what is not calculated in any of this? The fact that you need basically half of this when you are making a big increase. Just to give an example 2% increase is 50 million dollars right?

Well, 10% increase is not 250 million dollars, put in about 100-150 million dollars all of a sudden to the market and you can be sure that others will take care of the rest, so you will be at 10% increase with 100 million dollars into the market and not 4% increase. All of that due to people panic buying, I know people think panic selling is a big thing but panic buying is a real thing as well.





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August 02, 2020, 12:26:15 PM
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I apologize for the broken link, it has been fixed now!

Thanks, I'm reading it now and see that from the assessments you said that it only needs $90M  to move bitcoin to alleast reach 1% pumped.


I agree with a lot of the discussion here. The markets are always changing, so the amount it takes to move the market 1% will change over time.

Good point and if you'll be considering this you'll be able to get more data that you can compile to back up your
studies, there are many factors that you have to analyze in order to get a closer outputs within the
topic that you wanted to pursue.

Maybe there is a way we could study how much it takes to move the markets over time? Would anyone be interested in a study like that?

Sharing this would be great, there are many people who wanted to learned new ideas and if this study
become steady, it will give traders a good chance to make some short benefits.





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