Bitcoin Forum
May 06, 2024, 01:55:12 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: No seed, no password, but maybe some hope?  (Read 225 times)
yoyoyo123 (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 25, 2020, 07:58:30 PM
 #1

So I have unfortunately lost both my seed and my wallet password.... But I do have 1x wallet receiving address written down, and I was wondering if that in any way can help me open my wallet?
1715003712
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715003712

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715003712
Reply with quote  #2

1715003712
Report to moderator
"There should not be any signed int. If you've found a signed int somewhere, please tell me (within the next 25 years please) and I'll change it to unsigned int." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1715003712
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715003712

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715003712
Reply with quote  #2

1715003712
Report to moderator
jackg
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2856
Merit: 3071


https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory


View Profile
July 25, 2020, 08:00:06 PM
 #2

No, wallet addresses are publicly known information. Unless you have your wallet file then you won't be able to recover your funds unless you have the seed.
khaled0111
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2520
Merit: 2853


Top Crypto Casino


View Profile WWW
July 25, 2020, 09:51:42 PM
 #3

You need the private key of that address or the seed that has been used to generate it to access it and become able to spend from it.

If you still have a copy of the wallet file and the password used to encrypt it isn't too long/strong then you can try your luck with one of the wallets recovery tools or services. It would help much if you remember the exact length and/or some characters of the password.

█████████████████████████
████▐██▄█████████████████
████▐██████▄▄▄███████████
████▐████▄█████▄▄████████
████▐█████▀▀▀▀▀███▄██████
████▐███▀████████████████
████▐█████████▄█████▌████
████▐██▌█████▀██████▌████
████▐██████████▀████▌████
█████▀███▄█████▄███▀█████
███████▀█████████▀███████
██████████▀███▀██████████
█████████████████████████
.
BC.GAME
▄▄░░░▄▀▀▄████████
▄▄▄
██████████████
█████░░▄▄▄▄████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██▄██████▄▄▄▄████
▄███▄█▄▄██████████▄████▄████
███████████████████████████▀███
▀████▄██▄██▄░░░░▄████████████
▀▀▀█████▄▄▄███████████▀██
███████████████████▀██
███████████████████▄██
▄███████████████████▄██
█████████████████████▀██
██████████████████████▄
.
..CASINO....SPORTS....RACING..
█░░░░░░█░░░░░░█
▀███▀░░▀███▀░░▀███▀
▀░▀░░░░▀░▀░░░░▀░▀
░░░░░░░░░░░░
▀██████████
░░░░░███░░░░
░░█░░░███▄█░░░
░░██▌░░███░▀░░██▌
░█░██░░███░░░█░██
░█▀▀▀█▌░███░░█▀▀▀█▌
▄█▄░░░██▄███▄█▄░░▄██▄
▄███▄
░░░░▀██▄▀


▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀███▄
██████████
▀███▄░▄██▀
▄▄████▄▄░▀█▀▄██▀▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀▀████▄▄██▀▄███▀▀███▄
███████▄▄▀▀████▄▄▀▀███████
▀███▄▄███▀░░░▀▀████▄▄▄███▀
▀▀████▀▀████████▀▀████▀▀
o_e_l_e_o
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2268
Merit: 18510


View Profile
July 25, 2020, 09:52:42 PM
 #4

Your only solution is to try to brute force the password to the wallet file. If you have some idea of what the password will be this will be much easier. If you have no idea, and the password was long and complex, then it will be near impossible.

The program I would probably try first is btcrecover. The original (https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover) will work with old Electrum files (version 1.x and 2.x), but hasn't been updated in 3 years. There is a fork which is maintained and should work with all Electrum versions though (https://github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover). Back up your wallet file first, and run all this on an offline computer. Check out the tutorial file on the GitHub page for instructions for use.

If you can't manage this yourself, then your best bet would be to try sending a PM to this user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=130960. I can't personally vouch for him, but he has a long history of helping people recover their wallets.
TheUltraElite
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2870
Merit: 1222


Call your grandparents and tell them you love them


View Profile WWW
July 26, 2020, 06:10:33 AM
 #5

So I have unfortunately lost both my seed and my wallet password
Think carefully if you can remember having stored a copy of the wallet password and private key. Maybe the seed passphrase was written somewhere? If not then there is little you can do. See what o_e_l_e_o [1] says and that might help.

Quote
But I do have 1x wallet receiving address written down, and I was wondering if that in any way can help me open my wallet?
It would not help. If that was so easy then people would not be sharing receiving addresses to get paid. Roll Eyes

[1]Typing your username is a pain in the rear. But I prefer to type than copy paste. Grin

R


▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██████▄▄
████████████████
▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀█████
████████▌███▐████
▄▄▄▄█████▄▄▄█████
████████████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██████▀▀
LLBIT
  CRYPTO   
FUTURES
 1,000x 
LEVERAGE
COMPETITIVE
    FEES    
 INSTANT 
EXECUTION
.
   TRADE NOW   
Sanitough
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2828
Merit: 673


View Profile
July 26, 2020, 07:00:24 AM
 #6

No, wallet addresses are publicly known information. Unless you have your wallet file then you won't be able to recover your funds unless you have the seed.

Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.
Chikito
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2380
Merit: 2054



View Profile WWW
July 26, 2020, 07:36:27 AM
 #7

Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.
Regarding this post. Possible to do brute force password using that tool.

Importing the wallet file by choosing button where you save it on pc folder, don't need to type the wallet name. the password required, if you created password, if you leave it empty, it doesn't require when importing wallet.




.
.BLACKJACK ♠ FUN.
█████████
██████████████
████████████
█████████████████
████████████████▄▄
░█████████████▀░▀▀
██████████████████
░██████████████
████████████████
░██████████████
████████████
███████████████░██
██████████
CRYPTO CASINO &
SPORTS BETTING
▄▄███████▄▄
▄███████████████▄
███████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████
▀███████████████▀
█████████
.
Sanitough
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2828
Merit: 673


View Profile
July 26, 2020, 08:52:27 AM
 #8

Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.
Regarding this post. Possible to do brute force password using that tool.

Importing the wallet file by choosing button where you save it on pc folder, don't need to type the wallet name. the password required, if you created password, if you leave it empty, it doesn't require when importing wallet.





Thanks for that answer, but I usually put a wallet name and password in my electrum wallet, so if I forgot the password, I won't be able to recover it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, that's the way I understand your explanation.
khaled0111
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2520
Merit: 2853


Top Crypto Casino


View Profile WWW
July 26, 2020, 09:52:59 AM
 #9

I usually put a wallet name and password in my electrum wallet, so if I forgot the password, I won't be able to recover it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, that's the way I understand your explanation.

When importing a wallet, the password will be requiredif you set one in first place.
Setting a password will encrypt your wallet's private keys and without it you will not be able to decrypt it. Your wallet software can't read/import an encrypted wallet file without its password

If you forget the password like OP did, your only option is to try to crack it using some tools like btcrecover (read o_e_l_e_o's detailed reply).

█████████████████████████
████▐██▄█████████████████
████▐██████▄▄▄███████████
████▐████▄█████▄▄████████
████▐█████▀▀▀▀▀███▄██████
████▐███▀████████████████
████▐█████████▄█████▌████
████▐██▌█████▀██████▌████
████▐██████████▀████▌████
█████▀███▄█████▄███▀█████
███████▀█████████▀███████
██████████▀███▀██████████
█████████████████████████
.
BC.GAME
▄▄░░░▄▀▀▄████████
▄▄▄
██████████████
█████░░▄▄▄▄████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██▄██████▄▄▄▄████
▄███▄█▄▄██████████▄████▄████
███████████████████████████▀███
▀████▄██▄██▄░░░░▄████████████
▀▀▀█████▄▄▄███████████▀██
███████████████████▀██
███████████████████▄██
▄███████████████████▄██
█████████████████████▀██
██████████████████████▄
.
..CASINO....SPORTS....RACING..
█░░░░░░█░░░░░░█
▀███▀░░▀███▀░░▀███▀
▀░▀░░░░▀░▀░░░░▀░▀
░░░░░░░░░░░░
▀██████████
░░░░░███░░░░
░░█░░░███▄█░░░
░░██▌░░███░▀░░██▌
░█░██░░███░░░█░██
░█▀▀▀█▌░███░░█▀▀▀█▌
▄█▄░░░██▄███▄█▄░░▄██▄
▄███▄
░░░░▀██▄▀


▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀███▄
██████████
▀███▄░▄██▀
▄▄████▄▄░▀█▀▄██▀▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀▀████▄▄██▀▄███▀▀███▄
███████▄▄▀▀████▄▄▀▀███████
▀███▄▄███▀░░░▀▀████▄▄▄███▀
▀▀████▀▀████████▀▀████▀▀
o_e_l_e_o
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2268
Merit: 18510


View Profile
July 26, 2020, 09:59:42 AM
 #10

One more pro who could help
On what basis do you call this guy a pro? It's an inactive account with no trust ratings and very little activity in the thread he created. Just because he started a thread with some common sense advice doesn't make him a trustworthy person to send your wallet files to.

Thanks for that answer, but I usually put a wallet name and password in my electrum wallet, so if I forgot the password, I won't be able to recover it?
When you type in the wallet name, all you are doing is directing Electrum to open the correct wallet file. Typing in the name and importing the wallet file are essentially the same thing. With both of these methods, you also need to know the password. If you forget the password, you cannot access your wallet, either by typing in the name or importing the file. Your only solution then is to recover from your seed phrase or brute force the password.

[1]Typing your username is a pain in the rear. But I prefer to type than copy paste. Grin
Just call me Leo. It's far easier. Wink
HCP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2086
Merit: 4316

<insert witty quote here>


View Profile
July 29, 2020, 03:32:56 AM
 #11

Is it possible to recover the wallet by just a wallet file alone? I am just curious because in order for me to access my electrum wallet, I need to input the wallet name and the password, and when I tried to import the wallet file, the password is also required. I'm a bit confuse as well here.

You need ONE of these:

1. The back seed mnemonic (aka 12/24 word recovery phrase)

OR

2. The wallet file AND the correct password


So, if you have just the wallet file, then you're out of luck... and your only hope is to try and bruteforce the password using something like hashcat or btcrecover

█████████████████████████
████▐██▄█████████████████
████▐██████▄▄▄███████████
████▐████▄█████▄▄████████
████▐█████▀▀▀▀▀███▄██████
████▐███▀████████████████
████▐█████████▄█████▌████
████▐██▌█████▀██████▌████
████▐██████████▀████▌████
█████▀███▄█████▄███▀█████
███████▀█████████▀███████
██████████▀███▀██████████
█████████████████████████
.
BC.GAME
▄▄░░░▄▀▀▄████████
▄▄▄
██████████████
█████░░▄▄▄▄████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄██▄██████▄▄▄▄████
▄███▄█▄▄██████████▄████▄████
███████████████████████████▀███
▀████▄██▄██▄░░░░▄████████████
▀▀▀█████▄▄▄███████████▀██
███████████████████▀██
███████████████████▄██
▄███████████████████▄██
█████████████████████▀██
██████████████████████▄
.
..CASINO....SPORTS....RACING..
█░░░░░░█░░░░░░█
▀███▀░░▀███▀░░▀███▀
▀░▀░░░░▀░▀░░░░▀░▀
░░░░░░░░░░░░
▀██████████
░░░░░███░░░░
░░█░░░███▄█░░░
░░██▌░░███░▀░░██▌
░█░██░░███░░░█░██
░█▀▀▀█▌░███░░█▀▀▀█▌
▄█▄░░░██▄███▄█▄░░▄██▄
▄███▄
░░░░▀██▄▀


▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀███▄
██████████
▀███▄░▄██▀
▄▄████▄▄░▀█▀▄██▀▄▄████▄▄
▄███▀▀▀████▄▄██▀▄███▀▀███▄
███████▄▄▀▀████▄▄▀▀███████
▀███▄▄███▀░░░▀▀████▄▄▄███▀
▀▀████▀▀████████▀▀████▀▀
pooya87
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3444
Merit: 10550



View Profile
July 29, 2020, 03:47:31 AM
 #12

1. The back seed mnemonic (aka 12/24 word recovery phrase)

as far as i can remember Electrum only created 12 word long seed phrases and although the code supports other lengths and also BIP39 seeds they include a wider range of word lengths.

by the way OP only has 1 post and hasn't been back for 3 days! ...and this looks like another case of "bought wallet file".

.
.BLACKJACK ♠ FUN.
█████████
██████████████
████████████
█████████████████
████████████████▄▄
░█████████████▀░▀▀
██████████████████
░██████████████
████████████████
░██████████████
████████████
███████████████░██
██████████
CRYPTO CASINO &
SPORTS BETTING
▄▄███████▄▄
▄███████████████▄
███████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████
███████████████████
▀███████████████▀
█████████
.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!