An unfair treatment of Bitcointalk moderators

[friends1980]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

He educates people and taught them one of the most important lessons they could learn on this forum: plagiarists and ban-evaders get banned permanently.

For that lesson, we are eternally grateful to him.

Let us educate you, too: no matter how much you write and beg on this thread about "your Friend, the Great Content Creator", his bans will not be lifted. That's the definition of "permanently".

Bye now.

[Trybada1]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

He educates people and taught them one of the most important lessons they could learn on this forum: plagiarists and ban-evaders get banned permanently.

For that lesson, we are eternally grateful to him.

Let us educate you, too: no matter how much you write and beg on this thread about "your Friend, the Great Content Creator", his bans will not be lifted. That's the definition of "permanently".

Bye now.

So you have never plagiarized before? you have never made a mistake and you were forgiven before.  Its all good, since everyone is now a saint because of this, its all good.

[Findingnemo]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

Here in bitcointalk that is how plagiarism were treated which maybe unfair but that the rule and you/we can't do anything about that.If you don't like the forums rules then you have lot other forums to discuss the things as well.

[friends1980]

So you have never plagiarized before? (snip blablah whining et cetera) Its all good, since everyone is now a saint (snip... and so on... yawn)

Nope, but I've repeated myself very often - to people like you, among others. That doesn't count as plagiarism, though!

You would indeed not be the first one to state that I'm a Saint (the second one, actually. My mother believes so, too) and when you'll meet Charon, just before crossing the Styx, you'll be very thankful for having recognized my holiness as a fact indeed.

Now, whilst writing this reply, I realized I had a life somewhere. You'll please excuse me for going to search for and continue it.

[UmerIdrees]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

Here in bitcointalk that is how plagiarism were treated which maybe unfair but that the rule and you/we can't do anything about that.If you don't like the forums rules then you have lot other forums to discuss the things as well.

I don't think that plagiarism is treated unfair on this forum. There is zero tolerance for the plagiarism in bitcointalk and this is how it should be. If anyone can't write his own posts and need to copy/paste , he don't deserve to be here.

[Findingnemo]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

Here in bitcointalk that is how plagiarism were treated which maybe unfair but that the rule and you/we can't do anything about that.If you don't like the forums rules then you have lot other forums to discuss the things as well.

I don't think that plagiarism is treated unfair on this forum. There is zero tolerance for the plagiarism in bitcointalk and this is how it should be. If anyone can't write his own posts and need to copy/paste , he don't deserve to be here.

There are some exception in plagiarism cases as well, last year many reputed members got signature banned for a year or two for plagiarising years before but they have been given a chances after considering their contribution makes worthy to have them here.

[UmerIdrees]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

Here in bitcointalk that is how plagiarism were treated which maybe unfair but that the rule and you/we can't do anything about that.If you don't like the forums rules then you have lot other forums to discuss the things as well.

I don't think that plagiarism is treated unfair on this forum. There is zero tolerance for the plagiarism in bitcointalk and this is how it should be. If anyone can't write his own posts and need to copy/paste , he don't deserve to be here.

There are some exception in plagiarism cases as well, last year many reputed members got signature banned for a year or two for plagiarising years before but they have been given a chances after considering their contribution makes worthy to have them here.

Do you have any example of reputed member who got signature banned for plagiarism ? 
I can't remember any at the moment 

[acroman08]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

Here in bitcointalk that is how plagiarism were treated which maybe unfair but that the rule and you/we can't do anything about that.If you don't like the forums rules then you have lot other forums to discuss the things as well.

I don't think that plagiarism is treated unfair on this forum. There is zero tolerance for the plagiarism in bitcointalk and this is how it should be. If anyone can't write his own posts and need to copy/paste , he don't deserve to be here.

There are some exception in plagiarism cases as well, last year many reputed members got signature banned for a year or two for plagiarising years before but they have been given a chances after considering their contribution makes worthy to have them here.

Do you have any example of reputed member who got signature banned for plagiarism ?  
I can't remember any at the moment  

not permanent sig ban but only temporary ban and temporary sig ban.  check the link of the thread below for the list of members(some are reputable/well known, at least for me) that got temporary ban and temporary sig ban for plagiarism
Effect of signature bans

[Assface16678]

The account has already a copper membership according to our forum rules even you already bought this membership you cannot avoid the rules still you do not have any special treatment you are treated only as a member rank.

Also, the account already given has a 50 post only and those threads do not to information also it looks like not reach the average of 150 symbols.

Also, there is too much suspicious when a statement uses "a friend" on it's every statement. Looks like something fishy. Also against the rule, if you have a banned account then create a new one.

[OgNasty]

I personally think the changes to moderation and DT over the last few years have been a total fail. This place has turned into the Wild West of immature children in positions of influence chasing away any talent that comes here. If the goal is to get views, sure, the drama is fun. If the goal is to have a place where Bitcoin development is encouraged then i don’t see how anyone could think the last few years have included any positive developments. Can anyone point to a project here that is visible on the blockchain other than coin mixers and gambling sites? It’s actually a disgrace...

[Sanugarid]

Something's fishy for real with the OP lol if ever my account would be banned I will not let my friend defend for me, some reality scared, why not just create a new account and appeal to the moderators?

And as a new member of the forum you should abide the rules, and be very wary of it coz you might just step on a land mine causing to be banned just like your "friend"

OP's account was created in May, all of his post was dated from the time the thread was made. Don't need to give a call on this one. 

[lovesmayfamilis]

Something's fishy for real with the OP lol if ever my account would be banned I will not let my friend defend for me, some reality scared, why not just create a new account and appeal to the moderators?

And as a new member of the forum you should abide the rules, and be very wary of it coz you might just step on a land mine causing to be banned just like your "friend"

OP's account was created in May, all of his post was dated from the time the thread was made. Don't need to give a call on this one. 

Moreover, the account was created in May 2019.   Good point, Sanugarid.
I think, this is just a part of the farm that @da_primate owns.
Surely he is offended that the Cooper member he bought was banned so quickly. And now he is defending his money spent.
I often meet Copper Members who previously violated the forum rules. I think they are counting on some privileges from the forum if they spend some small amount. Something like an indulgence. Therefore, there is so much drama.

[Trybada1]

So you all are justifying the fact that he was banned without a sort of warning? He agreed, he might have broken a rule, but is deleting the post or reducing rank not better than outright ban.

He creates great contents, he isn't using this for as a source of income as assumed by many, he just come here to seek knowledge and educate people. please can you forgive and just lift the ban. deranking is better than outright ban. He should be monitored for a while to ensure he stick to the rules. Its his love for the forum that makes him come here all the time, and even invite friends to the forum.

Here in bitcointalk that is how plagiarism were treated which maybe unfair but that the rule and you/we can't do anything about that.If you don't like the forums rules then you have lot other forums to discuss the things as well.

I don't think that plagiarism is treated unfair on this forum. There is zero tolerance for the plagiarism in bitcointalk and this is how it should be. If anyone can't write his own posts and need to copy/paste , he don't deserve to be here.

There are some exception in plagiarism cases as well, last year many reputed members got signature banned for a year or two for plagiarising years before but they have been given a chances after considering their contribution makes worthy to have them here.

God bless you for this statement , if there's a temporary ban or de-ranking , it will be fair atleast

[Pmalek]

God bless you for this statement , if there's a temporary ban or de-ranking , it will be fair atleast

For the admins to consider unbanning your friend he has to present his case in a new forum thread. In it he should explain why he has been good to this forum overall and in what ways he has improved it. Members can get unbanned if bringing them back can positively affect the forum.

Do you think that is the case with your friend? From what I can see he is a bounty hunter, posts one-liners, and was very active in the off-topic section.
I think there is no chance for him to be forgiven. Give it a try if you think otherwise.

[Twentyonepaylots]

God bless you for this statement , if there's a temporary ban or de-ranking , it will be fair atleast

For the admins to consider unbanning your friend he has to present his case in a new forum thread. In it he should explain why he has been good to this forum overall and in what ways he has improved it. Members can get unbanned if bringing them back can positively affect the forum.

demotion of rank might be an answer but how do we count it? I mean we need a new system for that, more likely a strike system where a member only got a number of 'life' in his rank to get demoted.

Do you think that is the case with your friend? From what I can see he is a bounty hunter, posts one-liners, and was very active in the off-topic section.
I think there is no chance for him to be forgiven. Give it a try if you think otherwise.

There's no way he's going to be unbanned, his case was plagiarism and spamming, we already get rid of these people about a couple of year ago. Just so negative for me. 

[Trybada1]

Something's fishy for real with the OP lol if ever my account would be banned I will not let my friend defend for me, some reality scared, why not just create a new account and appeal to the moderators?

And as a new member of the forum you should abide the rules, and be very wary of it coz you might just step on a land mine causing to be banned just like your "friend"

OP's account was created in May, all of his post was dated from the time the thread was made. Don't need to give a call on this one. 

Moreover, the account was created in May 2019.   Good point, Sanugarid.
I think, this is just a part of the farm that @da_primate owns.
Surely he is offended that the Cooper member he bought was banned so quickly. And now he is defending his money spent.
I often meet Copper Members who previously violated the forum rules. I think they are counting on some privileges from the forum if they spend some small amount. Something like an indulgence. Therefore, there is so much drama.

Your wisdom is very archaic and its obvious you're myopic, for you and others like you to jump to the conclusion. it's all enjoy your ego boost

[Pmalek]

demotion of rank might be an answer but how do we count it? I mean we need a new system for that, more likely a strike system where a member only got a number of 'life' in his rank to get demoted.

I don't think such a new system is needed. We already have a good system in place it is just not being used properly and doesn't apply to everyone in the same way. A signature ban is enough punishment for someone who plagiarized to reach his weekly quota in a signature campaign. Introducing new things wont change anything, nor will it create any fear not to plagiarize.