I’m building de-social network on BitCoin, called BitSoul.

[CoffeeKing001]

What
BitCoin protects your wealth, BitSoul safeguards your network. <https://dapp.bitsoul.xyz>

BitSoul is trying to build a de-social network based on BitCoin, the most secure blockchain.
Including personal identity, friend relationship, group relationship, soul bound certificate, etc.


How
Here is the help document about how to use bitsoul: <https://bitsoul.medium.com>

ScreenShot: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bit-soul/bit-soul/master/docs/img/img.jpg


Why
The lack of regulation in the crypto space brings freedom but also comes with scams.
Addressing trust issues in anonymous scenarios becomes crucial. This can significantly
reduce trust costs and, consequently, increase productivity in the crypto world.
[BRC-Soul Protocol based on BitCoin](https://github.com/bit-soul/brc-soul) can effectively
solve decentralized trust issues and have important applications in scenarios such as:

1. Lending platforms can adjust corresponding collateral ratios based on the credibility of addresses, thereby improving capital utilization efficiency.
2. Individuals can assess the credibility of a project based on the reputation of the project initiator's address and decide whether to invest or not.
3. Individuals can develop their social circles in the crypto world based on the credibility of addresses.
4. The decentralized relationship can be stored on the chain forever, without restriction of any centralized app.
5. Every app use the same data, we would never need build our social network and reputation again and again.
6. and so on...

Why should use the Bitcoin chain?
1. Applications on Bitcoin are just emerging, and there is lack of related protocol for DID and Social, What is an important area in the crypto community.
2. Bitcoin is currently the most secure chain, and personal identity information is the most important information for everyone, so it should be stored on the most secure chain.
3. The various DID identity systems on different chains have caused severe fragmentation in the ecosystem. Bitcoin's position is the most hopeful for standardizing DID identity systems.
4. With the Bitcoin halving, miner revenues decrease, and Bitcoin's hash power is threatened, new applications can ensure sustained hash power.

RoadMap
1. Develop Discord Bot to sync group relation to Discord
2. Develop Chrome plugin to sync follow relation to Twitter
3. Integrate with Nostr, brc-soul build network, nostr deliver content
4. Use Rollup to reduce time to one-second, and it can reduce gas too
5. Raise funds to give grants to the project who use BRC-Soul protocol

Official Links
1. website: <https://bitsoul.xyz>
2. twitter: <https://twitter.com/bitsoul_xyz>
3. medium: <https://medium.com/@bitsoul>
4. github: <https://github.com/bit-soul>
5. telegram: <https://t.me/bitsoul_xyz>
6. discord: <https://discord.gg/3MjNRBhuRv>
7. email: <coffeeking001@outlook.com>
8. issues: <https://github.com/bit-soul/brc-soul/issues>

[Vod]

BitSoul is trying to build a de-social network based on BitCoin, the most secure blockchain.

The first thing you wrote makes little sense.  :/

The Bitcoin blockchain is for finance - you want a different blockchain.   Security is no different between blockchains.   Do you understand the difference Bitcoin and Blockchain?

[CoffeeKing001]

The Bitcoin blockchain is for finance - you want a different blockchain.   Security is no different between blockchains.   Do you understand the difference Bitcoin and Blockchain?

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

Some people want to save their Wealth and Network, the most important thing of them, on the same securiest chain.

Different chain has different security. (pos vs pow, Hashrate, and so on)

[ABCbits]

Why should use the Bitcoin chain?
1. Applications on Bitcoin are just emerging, and there is currently no related protocol for a DID identity system. This is an important area in the crypto community.

There are already several attempt. For example, MicroStrategy already share their plan to build DID protocol using Ordinals.

2. Bitcoin is currently the most secure chain, and personal identity information is the most important information for everyone, so it should be stored on the most secure chain.

Or don't share such information on place which can be seen by anyone.

3. The various DID identity systems on different chains have caused severe fragmentation in the ecosystem. Bitcoin's position is the most hopeful for standardizing DID identity systems.

It reminds me of this xkcd comic.


Source: https://xkcd.com/927/

The Bitcoin blockchain is for finance - you want a different blockchain.   Security is no different between blockchains.   Do you understand the difference Bitcoin and Blockchain?

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

You should be aware that some Bitcoiner don't like when someone store arbitrary data on Bitcoin blockchain.

[Vod]

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

The community.  They will not use an over bloated slow crypto system for any kind of network.

You should be aware that some Bitcoiner don't like when someone store arbitrary data on Bitcoin blockchain.

[Pmalek]

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

Satoshi did. According to him, Bitcoin is a P2P electronic cash system. It allows for online payments of electronic cash to be sent from one party to the other without intermediaries. So, it's not a network to save your social data on or a blockchain to create a de-social network. If you don't believe me, check out what it says in the whitepaper.

[hugeblack]

Is what you offer something like Bitrated, Bitcoin Trust - multi-signature smart contracts for buyer protection and fraud prevention for Bitcoin^[1]
I remember the service was popular in the past and you could link your account to the forum, Twitter account, additional data about you and they would give you a number, the higher your number the more trustworthy you are.
In general without giving guarantees that the service will be decentralized and the development team cannot enhance the value of accounts (especially paid ones) then it might be a good thing.

[1] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/bitrated-unveils-reputation-system-multisig-escrow-1424750534

[ABCbits]

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

Satoshi did. According to him, Bitcoin is a P2P electronic cash system. It allows for online payments of electronic cash to be sent from one party to the other without intermediaries. So, it's not a network to save your social data on or a blockchain to create a de-social network. If you don't believe me, check out what it says in the whitepaper.

If we use Satoshi's words as argument, we probably should use his comment about BitDNS project as well[1].

Is what you offer something like Bitrated, Bitcoin Trust - multi-signature smart contracts for buyer protection and fraud prevention for Bitcoin^[1]
I remember the service was popular in the past and you could link your account to the forum, Twitter account, additional data about you and they would give you a number, the higher your number the more trustworthy you are.
In general without giving guarantees that the service will be decentralized and the development team cannot enhance the value of accounts (especially paid ones) then it might be a good thing.

[1] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/bitrated-unveils-reputation-system-multisig-escrow-1424750534

Briefly comparing Bitrated with BitSoul's protocol[2], IMO they are different. BitSoul doesn't offer multi-sig escrow and doesn't use centralized social media.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28696#msg28696
[2] https://github.com/bit-soul/brc-soul

[Pmalek]

If we use Satoshi's words as argument, we probably should use his comment about BitDNS project as well[1].

That comment refers to BitDNS as being a separate network and having its own blockchain instead of residing on Bitcoin's blockchain. He is proposing a merge mining scheme, where finding a Bitcoin block would entail also finding a block on BitDNS' blockchain using the same Proof of Work.

[ABCbits]

If we use Satoshi's words as argument, we probably should use his comment about BitDNS project as well[1].

That comment refers to BitDNS as being a separate network and having its own blockchain instead of residing on Bitcoin's blockchain. He is proposing a merge mining scheme, where finding a Bitcoin block would entail also finding a block on BitDNS' blockchain using the same Proof of Work.

That's right. But my point is satoshi suggesting to store arbitrary data on different network, while OP's idea store arbitrary data on Bitcoin on-chain network. That could be used as argument against storing arbitary data on-chain.

[CoffeeKing001]

Why should use the Bitcoin chain?
1. Applications on Bitcoin are just emerging, and there is currently no related protocol for a DID identity system. This is an important area in the crypto community.

There are already several attempt. For example, MicroStrategy already share their plan to build DID protocol using Ordinals.

Thanks for reading carefully! And thanks for your information. I have searched and read it, it's called "MicroStrategy Orange Protocol" https://microstrategy.github.io/did-btc-spec/

It's really not appropriate to say "there is no", and I have modified it to "there is lack of".

In fact, BitSoul is designed in Feb 2024, much earlier than "MicroStrategy Orange Protocol" in May 2024.

Or don't share such information on place which can be seen by anyone.

Using ZK tech may help safeguard the privacy information, we will try it.

It reminds me of this xkcd comic.

Ha ha, but we need to try, it's still in the early stages in the de-social area.

You should be aware that some Bitcoiner don't like when someone store arbitrary data on Bitcoin blockchain.

Yes, different people have different opinions, but it is precisely because of the existence of differences that the crypto world is inclusive.

[CoffeeKing001]

Is what you offer something like Bitrated, Bitcoin Trust - multi-signature smart contracts for buyer protection and fraud prevention for Bitcoin^[1]

Thanks for your information.

Bitrated provided service, reputation score, is part of BitSoul. But it seems Bitrated's reputation score is more centralized. BitSoul stores reputation on the BitCoin chain, and it can calculate scores from Decentralized Social Network(DSN) built on the BitCoin chain.

[Pmalek]

That's right. But my point is satoshi suggesting to store arbitrary data on different network, while OP's idea store arbitrary data on Bitcoin on-chain network. That could be used as argument against storing arbitary data on-chain.

I guess you misunderstood me or I misunderstood your previous reply to my post, thinking that you were suggesting that satoshi was ok with users storing arbitrary data on the Bitcoin blockchain. With this second post of yours, that doesn't seem to be the case, so I take your previous reply not as correction but a supplement and adding some more information.

[CoffeeKing001]

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

Satoshi did. According to him, Bitcoin is a P2P electronic cash system. It allows for online payments of electronic cash to be sent from one party to the other without intermediaries. So, it's not a network to save your social data on or a blockchain to create a de-social network. If you don't believe me, check out what it says in the whitepaper.

If everyone like you, thinks Satoshi said, Bitcoin must did. Then it's dangerous. Bitcoin is free, everyone can do what they want to do.

Infact according to Satoshi in some social media, he also hopes to expand Bitcoin applications. Whitepaper can only describe the tech self, but not all application area.

[Pmalek]

Infact according to Satoshi in some social media, he also hopes to expand Bitcoin applications.

What social media? Satoshi was a private individual. You won't find him posting on Facebook and uploading pictures of himself writing code on Instagram. Telegram wasn't around at the time they were active. Apparently there were some tweets on Twitter, but who knows who controlled that account. Reddit was around 2009/10, but I don't know if satoshi was active there. He shared his ideas via the dev mailing list, the Bitcoin forum, and private email correspondence.

[ABCbits]

Who stipulates that Bitcoin must only for finance?

Satoshi did. According to him, Bitcoin is a P2P electronic cash system. It allows for online payments of electronic cash to be sent from one party to the other without intermediaries. So, it's not a network to save your social data on or a blockchain to create a de-social network. If you don't believe me, check out what it says in the whitepaper.

If everyone like you, thinks Satoshi said, Bitcoin must did. Then it's dangerous. Bitcoin is free, everyone can do what they want to do.

Even if it makes fee for sending Bitcoin very high (see what Ordinal/BRC-20 hype did)?

Infact according to Satoshi in some social media, he also hopes to expand Bitcoin applications. Whitepaper can only describe the tech self, but not all application area.

Source: https://xkcd.com/285/

[Porfirii]

So what is the problem with creating a new blockchain dedicated to this project, if you are so convinced that it will succeed (apart from the fact that it would be the nth blockchain, and growing)? Why insist on using Bitcoin blockchain, especially when cons have been very reasonably argued already?

About the project itself, looking at the links you shared, you have done a good job so far IMO. You are addressing a real problem that has been giving headaches for a long time. I simply want to share my concern about creating a new problem by trying to solve an old one.

[CoffeeKing001]

So what is the problem with creating a new blockchain dedicated to this project, if you are so convinced that it will succeed (apart from the fact that it would be the nth blockchain, and growing)? Why insist on using Bitcoin blockchain, especially when cons have been very reasonably argued already?

About the project itself, looking at the links you shared, you have done a good job so far IMO. You are addressing a real problem that has been giving headaches for a long time. I simply want to share my concern about creating a new problem by trying to solve an old one.

Firstly, It's not easy to build a new consensus. Creating a new chain, and attracting people to use a new chain is too hard, it needs much money to make the market. I'm only an independent web3 developer.

Secondly, I think saving my wealth and social network (the two most important things for me) in the same chain, makes me feel convenient.

Lastly, I just want use the consensus, which Bitcoin build already. It's good for this project to cold start. And inverse, the social activity gas can help bitcoin become stronger.