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August 04, 2020, 01:41:55 PM
Last edit: August 04, 2020, 02:31:46 PM by pakhitheboss
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Are Newbies a bunch of retards that do not understand Scams?

OR

We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread.


Scammers are everywhere, infact Fiat related Scams are more prominent than Crypto Scams. Why are we intentionally talking about Crypto Scam always in this thread, when we know it just a small fish in a big pond of Scams.

Those who regularly create topics in this thread, try to create topics which are Guides or tutorial related to cryptocurrencies or about this platform.

There are other threads that are regularly updating about scams and how to avoid them. I am not against scam related topics I am against portraying the newbies that cryptocurrency is all about scams.

The same topic written differently won't make any difference.

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My question to all of you after reading your replies:
  • Why will a begginer always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here?
  • Did anyone here create a topic about benefits of cryptocurrency? or we assumed they know about it?
  • We assumed they do not know about Scams or we are creating topics for Merits?




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August 04, 2020, 01:52:58 PM
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If you give some examples of those topic link it would be better actually what are you against to post here. Yes, you are right that scam-related posts should be posted in the appropriate section, so for scam-related something we have scam accusations section. But sometimes some users think some new scam technic could affect mainly newbies members, post those things as a guide in this Beginners & Help section to warn the newbies IMO.

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You got it all wrong.

Just because you know about different scam tricks or tactics does not mean that everyone out there is aware of them, and people creating warnings or guides on how one can safeguard their bitcoins against scammers does not mean that Crypto is all about scam.

Unlike fiat which one can even access from a young age, cryptocurrencies are something digital, security sensitive, and very new to most people who can easily fall prey to online scammers, hackers and malware, so seriously the warnings are really required.

You should in fact applaud such members for trying to alert the community because it's an effort that takes time. There's no need to be mad about this.

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August 04, 2020, 02:04:55 PM
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This has been happened 6 months ago since I start create this topic in Meta to find a solution Expose scam site in Beginner & Help board?

And yeah, the answer is "All related scam project" should be posted in Scam accusations, you can use report to moderator and let the moderator move it. If the thread mainly discuss about how to avoid scams, it can be posted on Scam accusations or Beginner & Help (if you want).

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August 04, 2020, 02:08:29 PM
Last edit: August 04, 2020, 04:01:39 PM by tranthidung
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Let's start off by the term Newbies.

  • Who are newbies on the forum?
  • Are all forum newbies are actually newbies in crypto space?

[1]: Who creates account and gets only one activity point or post a lot but has not yet receive a single merit. They are newbies on the forum, from the criteria of rank. That's it.
[2]: Not all of them are actually newbies in crypto. Some of them are experts, tech gurus and they have a title (rank) newbie because of their limited time participated and contributed on the forum.

  • Scam accusation, as its name discloses clearly, is just a sub board for scam fightings and proofs of scam projects.
  • Beginners & Help serves a bigger role: for more general and systematic guides on how to classify projects, detect scam ones, and avoid scam promotions, KYC-data stolen from scammers, etc.


My question to all of you after reading your replies:
  • Why will a begginer always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here?
  • Did anyone here create a topic about benefits of cryptocurrency? or we assumed they know about it?
  • We assumed they do not know about Scams or we are creating topics for Merits?
1. Think of losses and prevent losses before thinking of profits. So yeah such threads are do helpful (some are extremely helpful).
2. There are around the forum. No need to ask so, mate.
3. Why did you think others create threads only because of merits?

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Because beginners are the most vulnerable to fraud because they do not have experience in the field of encryption and therefore scammers target them by offering attractive offers and beginners always strive to earn currencies quickly and they fall victim to fraud operations and for this reason issues related to fraud are published in this section
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August 04, 2020, 02:15:36 PM
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You got it all wrong.

Just because you know about different scam tricks or tactics does not mean that everyone out there is aware of them, and people creating warnings or guides on how one can safeguard their bitcoins against scammers does not mean that Crypto is all about scam.

Unlike fiat which one can even access from a young age, cryptocurrencies are something digital, security sensitive, and very new to most people who can easily fall prey to online scammers, hackers and malware, so seriously the warnings are really required.

You should in fact applaud such members for trying to alert the community because it's an effort that takes time. There's no need to be mad about this.

You took it wrong @JeromeTash I never said I was against all such post, I said I am against creating the same post with different subjects or topics.

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Because beginners are the most vulnerable to fraud because they do not have experience in the field of encryption and therefore scammers target them by offering attractive offers and beginners always strive to earn currencies quickly and they fall victim to fraud operations and for this reason issues related to fraud are published in this section

Yeah and some scams are forum specific or specific to certain tools such as social media that newbies have to be warned of as enough have been scammed those ways already...



I'd advise if a topic doesn't look like something you'd want to see and it isn't clickbait you should be able to just scroll past it...
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Because beginners are the most vulnerable to fraud because they do not have experience in the field of encryption and therefore scammers target them by offering attractive offers and beginners always strive to earn currencies quickly and they fall victim to fraud operations and for this reason issues related to fraud are published in this section

Classic example of a textbook you have quoted!

Why will a begginer always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here

Did anyone here create a topic about benefits of cryptocurrency? or we assumed they know about it.

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August 04, 2020, 02:36:10 PM
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While I think topics concerning scams on the Beginners & Help section help inform some newbies, I also think that there's a bit too much topics sometimes. I still think that we really need a pinned topic concerning the common scams on this section just to potentially at least halve the scam posts as some are really really redundant.

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We are using the term newbie means beginner, does not have enough knowledge and as one of the elders on our forum we know right now are the guides and dos and don't we are posting the threads on the beginners & help to keep them aware even we already have a section of Scam Accusations still one of the common things they visit is this board as a newbie you have a lot of questions what is this, what is that and what are those things they need to learn.

We are here to guide them.



My answer to your question.
  • 1. Why do you need to read the benefits if we already know this is a scam? It's better to be kept aware and read a lot of things. Learn from the mistakes you've got and come from others.
  • 2. As you can see there is a lot of news, articles, and influence from different people with the use of the cryptocurrency, try to visit the bitcoin discussion and you can see most of the thread relayed on that.
  • 3. We create a topic to give awareness. Merit is just a bonus.

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Because most of the times, beginners are the victims of such scams. Since they are noob and have no idea about this environment, they get tricked in such scam method. That's why I too think such threads should be posted on this board to make awareness among all the people.

We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread.
I believe you are talking about board. Thread and topic are the same thing while board is different.
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August 04, 2020, 03:23:15 PM
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This has been happened 6 months ago since I start create this topic in Meta to find a solution Expose scam site in Beginner & Help board?

And yeah, the answer is "All related scam project" should be posted in Scam accusations, you can use report to moderator and let the moderator move it. If the thread mainly discuss about how to avoid scams, it can be posted on Scam accusations or Beginner & Help (if you want).
Not only on this section I have seen some sections where there are scam reports and some of them are not created by newbies we should all be aware that if we want to get attention from what we are posting it should be posted in the right section because members expect to see what they want to see on their section of interest.

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Are Newbies a bunch of retards that do not understand Scams?

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We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread.


Scammers are everywhere, infact Fiat related Scams are more prominent than Crypto Scams. Why are we intentionally talking about Crypto Scam always in this thread, when we know it just a small fish in a big pond of Scams.

Those who regularly create topics in this thread, try to create topics which are Guides or tutorial related to cryptocurrencies or about this platform.

There are other threads that are regularly updating about scams and how to avoid them. I am not against scam related topics I am against portraying the newbies that cryptocurrency is all about scams.

The same topic written differently won't make any difference.

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My question to all of you after reading your replies:
  • Why will a begginer always want to read about a scam and not the benefits he can achieve being here?
  • Did anyone here create a topic about benefits of cryptocurrency? or we assumed they know about it?
  • We assumed they do not know about Scams or we are creating topics for Merits?





I think members here are more concerned about scams than the benefits. I also believe this place forum needs to understand that we are the face of a community that promotes benefits an not scams.

We need to have seperate board only to discuss about scams in crypto space. I also believe that merits are the main reason why members are creating more topics which are almost same on scams.
 

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Because most of the times, beginners are the victims of such scams. Since they are noob and have no idea about this environment, they get tricked in such scam method. That's why I too think such threads should be posted on this board to make awareness among all the people.

We do not have any other topic to share or talk about in this thread.
I believe you are talking about board. Thread and topic are the same thing while the board is different.

Hey! @Pffrt, Thanks for making me understand the difference between a Thread and a Board. I also feel that you made my day after a typo mistake.

You are a STAR @Pffrt!!!

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Unfortunately, matters related to deception are not present here. They are everywhere, in every location, and in every forum that contains beginners. These people are new to the field they enter in and they have no experience. That is why fraudsters exploit them using many forms of fraud, the most important way. The temptation to speak and persuade as the impostor persuades the novice that he will pay him large sums in exchange for clicking on a specific link or downloading a specific application.
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The first is, they are newbies, where even beginners do sometimes really not know anything. Or they are people who are easily influenced without wanting to analyze it first about the truth. Not everyone understands about the crypto world, not everyone wants to learn from the beginning related to the crypto world. And there are some people who just follow the hype, the influence of others, and the lure that is extraordinary to be rich, so they are interested.
Not only newbies, but people who have long been in the crypto world are still the target and victims of scams.

That is why we are here to help each other, at least announcing and allowing them aware of the scams. It is not really disturbing to help each other, isn't it? We are sharing the information that can help the members to avoid scams.


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I understand your point, if the topic is a general advice not targetting specific project or platform, I guess threads like that should be merged but if it is about a specific project it should be posted on scam accusation instead. If you find one you can freely report it to moderator. But if the thread is about something like, a new technique of scammers nowadays I guess that is really helpful for us newbies to be informed, I still consider myself a newbie.  Cheesy
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I am not against scam related topics I am against portraying the newbies that cryptocurrency is all about scams.
You said it yourself, "are Newbies a bunch of retards that do not understand Scams?" for sure they understand, newbies are curious individuals and for sure they will know the truth about cryptocurrency and its importance, there are just people creating topics without searching first if it already exist.
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Well, I suppose it's because threads about scams (how to avoid them and the like) are easy ways to be acknowledged for one's post to become creative/useful. Plus, I think they think of it as a guaranteed way to earn merit (Just saying it's a way, not that all newbies are posting for merit). My opinion of it would be just to avoid it if you think it's irritating or something, let them post what they want since it's basically still useful oneway or another. And each post about how to avoid crypto scams could provide new information, after all, so they're basically free to do as such. And it's not like they just copy and pasted it from someone, but I do agree about what @mk4 said, a pinned thread that could get regularly updated about scams.


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If it's about specific scam project then it should be posted in the scam section but if it is about tutorial guide about scamming then it's ok to post it here, in scam section there is a format here, you need to have subject to make your thread valid, or it will just be deleted.

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