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August 07, 2020, 02:26:12 PM
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Vegas will only be afraid if they are not implementing the protocol directed to them.
People will complain things like;
Lawsuits like *I got infected here , there was no sanitization* and boom , you are in the news and finally the casino needs to be shut down.

But if Vegas are confident that they  implement and follow the rules, they should not ask for something that they know a government can't grant.

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August 07, 2020, 03:14:59 PM
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During this time of uncertainties and risk caused by the global pandemic, it is not ideal for business such as casinos to open up their physical space. I think that it would be more appropriate and safer to open up their online casino sites keeping up with the new normal working system of society, online interactions.
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August 07, 2020, 03:37:11 PM
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They still didn't realize they have helped the number of deaths to increase because of opening the casinos in their area. But instead of taking responsibility and do the right thing, they plead to exclude them from lawsuits. How convenient is this for them?
This is just a conlcusion of yours, I supposed. Coz we don't really know if there are people who have fetched the virus in their area, though the chances are high since virus can live in surfaces up to hours but still we can't just be this assumable. If they are following strict protocols, such as individual medication, any proof of quarantined days that they have gone by then they could be inside the casino, on top of the protective gears that they will require for each and every one. It is a both end responsibility after all, if you wanted to play but is feeling sick why would you push yourself for doing so?

Its time for them to face the consequences of their action but even this they are trying to get away while during the pandemic they are trying to keep earning while the rest are mourning. Good job mayor.
yeah if it is proven that they contributed to the number, they could be possibly shut down but not really a lawsuit, no one wants that to happen, all they want is a source of tax.
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August 07, 2020, 03:50:35 PM
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During this time of uncertainties and risk caused by the global pandemic, it is not ideal for business such as casinos to open up their physical space. I think that it would be more appropriate and safer to open up their online casino sites keeping up with the new normal working system of society, online interactions.


You know what, if the owners can afford to stop the operation they will, but they know there are people who will lose their job if they will stop and that would be another problem since the government has to extend some help to this people. Actually, any business that could risk ourselves in getting outside is not idea, however, if the government will stop them, it will cause for the economy to collapse.
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August 07, 2020, 04:48:32 PM
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@acroman08 the thread you’re referring to was started by me

Thread link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253684.0
yeah, that's the thread that I am talking about

At this stage I’m not really sure if the casinos actually failed to deploy the necessary safety measures, and further if those gamblers don’t have solid proof against those casinos then this case won’t stand in the court of law.
the lawsuit may not hold in court if the complainant doesn't have enough evidence to prove his claim but judging by the casino owners reaction about the filed complaint against them it is clear that they have failed or hasn't implemented proper protocols on their establishment.

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August 07, 2020, 05:27:31 PM
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They shouldn't have opened up in the first place , they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

Yea, they should stay closed and to fire all employs and to go online! Seems like you are the best manager in the world! Who fucks people who work there, and their families, let them die from hunger!
Amount of stupidity I saw in this topic is amazing, I don't know why people have an urge to comment and judge without thinking. It's very easy to do that from the comfort of your home, I would ask you what would you do if you live in Vegas and you depend on the salary from some casino!

Having a lawsuit is different than actually win it. Anyone can blame anyone for anything. If anyone placed a lawsuit against me even without a reason, I'd be called for a response by the court. And it's not compulsory for me to answer but a simple written response would be enough for me to win the lawsuit if the claims are baseless. Similarly, I don't think anyone would be able to stop people from filing a lawsuit but they'd be difficult to prove if the casinos claimed they actually were doing as required.

One of the good comments in this topic, and the good logic to follow "anyone can blame anyone for anything" and ask a question where will this lead us!?

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August 07, 2020, 06:07:10 PM
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They shouldn't have opened up in the first place , they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

Yea, they should stay closed and to fire all employs and to go online! Seems like you are the best manager in the world! Who fucks people who work there, and their families, let them die from hunger!
Amount of stupidity I saw in this topic is amazing, I don't know why people have an urge to comment and judge without thinking. It's very easy to do that from the comfort of your home, I would ask you what would you do if you live in Vegas and you depend on the salary from some casino!

We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this.  Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.
 
People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

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August 07, 2020, 06:34:00 PM
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We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this.  Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.
 
People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

Yea, I wonder what would you plant in that desert?!

I can't believe what you are writing! By you the entire city should be closed and it's better to just be hungry than to be sick and hungry? Like if we have to choose from two evils let's choose starvation?! Let's sit at home and watch hungry kids eating their plastic toys?

Do you really wish to spend your life in constant fear? Sitting and home, pointing fingers in others and judging them because they refuse that?

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August 07, 2020, 06:51:10 PM
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Hopefully judges in the US are not that stupid to burn down a multi billion industry because of some stupid accusation.

You can get infected while you are doing your groceries too. Do they close down a wallmart when somebody gets infected there? Nope. Not happening.

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August 07, 2020, 06:56:00 PM
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We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this.  Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.
 
People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

Yea, I wonder what would you plant in that desert?!

I can't believe what you are writing! By you the entire city should be closed and it's better to just be hungry than to be sick and hungry? Like if we have to choose from two evils let's choose starvation?! Let's sit at home and watch hungry kids eating their plastic toys?

Do you really wish to spend your life in constant fear? Sitting and home, pointing fingers in others and judging them because they refuse that?


Believe me, even if I say we shouldn't open the city. I can't do anything about it.  After all they've already opened it. Its done.
But I didn't say they should plant in the desert.  That would be more stupid of THEM. I wanna make it clear that I'm not saying you are stupid. Its them who plant on desert who are stupid.

Now that they are infected, are they still allowed to go work on the casino?  If they are then good for them. If not then prehaps they can die waiting for stipumus package but that is not what I want them to do. They can find ways like the homeless man trying to fish the river.




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August 07, 2020, 08:23:42 PM
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We all have diffirent cultures which matters in times like this.  Asians can just survive with rice and some vegges that we can pick from our own garden and so we can survive for more than years eating porridge every day.
 
People in vegas lives differently but now those affected of the coronavirus has two problems. One, they are sick and needs medication and two, they need food for them to survive. It could have been just one problem if they didn't open yet.

Yea, I wonder what would you plant in that desert?!

I can't believe what you are writing! By you the entire city should be closed and it's better to just be hungry than to be sick and hungry? Like if we have to choose from two evils let's choose starvation?! Let's sit at home and watch hungry kids eating their plastic toys?

Do you really wish to spend your life in constant fear? Sitting and home, pointing fingers in others and judging them because they refuse that?


Believe me, even if I say we shouldn't open the city. I can't do anything about it.  After all they've already opened it. Its done.
But I didn't say they should plant in the desert.  That would be more stupid of THEM. I wanna make it clear that I'm not saying you are stupid. Its them who plant on desert who are stupid.

Now that they are infected, are they still allowed to go work on the casino?  If they are then good for them. If not then prehaps they can die waiting for stipumus package but that is not what I want them to do. They can find ways like the homeless man trying to fish the river.

There are still ways if someone is really eager and not really that lazy when it comes to survival.Its just a matter on using up your brain and not just sitting and waiting to die on starvation.

I cant really blame out people do making out these kind of decisions yet we know on how hard life is without any work or income.We cant feed ourselves and majority is pretty

aware on their health risk when they tend to choose to work in spite in the middle of pandemic situation.Most businesses now are already opened not only on Las vegas but also in other countries as well,

so this isnt just an issue or a topic to talk about in just one place.It is happening everywhere!

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August 07, 2020, 09:40:42 PM
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Hopefully judges in the US are not that stupid to burn down a multi billion industry because of some stupid accusation.

You can get infected while you are doing your groceries too. Do they close down a wallmart when somebody gets infected there? Nope. Not happening.

Really stupid if that's the only reason, though for sure the taxes that came from this business will be weight in before
any decisions from the judges, imagine the amount of money even there's still virus around.

Will be another controversial decision just in case this case will favor the closure.
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August 07, 2020, 09:45:04 PM
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Hopefully judges in the US are not that stupid to burn down a multi billion industry because of some stupid accusation.

You can get infected while you are doing your groceries too. Do they close down a wallmart when somebody gets infected there? Nope. Not happening.

Really stupid if that's the only reason, though for sure the taxes that came from this business will be weight in before
any decisions from the judges, imagine the amount of money even there's still virus around.

Will be another controversial decision just in case this case will favor the closure.


And also, they should look into the situation if the individual is also following the health protocols at all times like wearing mask and social distancing. Since they have cameras everywhere, they will know if that person is observing those protocols. The blame should not fall directly on the casino side but on both sides. And I don't think they will shut down casinos for good. That's where a large of income is coming from.
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August 07, 2020, 11:43:23 PM
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Las Vegas casinos should be prepared to accept the risk with the corona virus situation which is still worsening until now,
because of the government only carry out strict rules regarding the corona virus. Because with the increasing number of deaths,
indeed it is not permissible to loosen the rules that apply. So the casinos must close their business if an infected person is found
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August 07, 2020, 11:47:29 PM
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Las Vegas casinos should be prepared to accept the risk with the corona virus situation which is still worsening until now,
because of the government only carry out strict rules regarding the corona virus. Because with the increasing number of deaths,
indeed it is not permissible to loosen the rules that apply. So the casinos must close their business if an infected person is found
and proven not to properly implement health protocols.

Because even if the casinos are implementing the health protocols, they can't assure that their patrons are observing these at all times.
Social distancing alone is hard to keep among those players inside.
They need to choose whether it is good for business or for the people.
Either way, they need to re-assess the situation and act accordingly.
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I think both the casino and the government will need to coexist to solve that problem by implementing the rule and the protocols to protect people from the infection. The casino must have hand sanitizer in every place, including in every table, if necessary, so the gamblers can see that the casino follows what the government says. It is not just one agency works, but it needs support from all people, even the casino, which will be the place that people will gather. I am sure that if all people, all casinos, and the government can unite together, we will address the increasing number of infected people. If that succeeds, I think the government will reopen another business and use it as already applied in the casino. Soon, the economy will be better with the new normal conditions.
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August 08, 2020, 04:55:37 AM
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They shouldn't have opened up in the first place ,
I don't think so, vegas losing a lot of money daily when their operation was stopped.

Las Vegas casino companies burning up to $14.4M a day, report finds

Therefore I believe that they have a reason to open, this is for the economy, and US can't afford to keep spending for the needs to combat the virus without the tax collection from business.

they could have might as well invested in an online site during the time and they could even buy stakes in some online Gambling site and wait , since coronavirus is not going to go anywhere until and unless strict restrictions are going to be followed , which is better for the business in the long term

I'm pretty sure investors of Las Vegas casinos knows how to manage the risk, they have diversified their investment for sure but Vegas operation is just too big not to continue for them, probably their biggest investment.

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August 08, 2020, 05:39:46 AM
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I think both the casino and the government will need to coexist to solve that problem by implementing the rule and the protocols to protect people from the infection.

Before the casino was allowed to re-open, the government already issued a guidelines to follow when vegas resumes, and by opening the casino, they agreed with the guidelines to implement the safety protocol, so they should not be afraid of lawsuits if they implement it effectively.

In the first place, people are are not required to go in a casino, it's their well to be in a casino and they should understand that there's a risk that they might get infected. I'm just curious, do they get have an outstanding legal case from clients already?

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August 08, 2020, 06:04:05 AM
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Of course lawsuit penalties are damn so high. It can be a possible reason for the Casino to decide bankruptcy. This is why the government could easily implement their rules and regulations due to the implemented high penalties to make sure that all the rules and protocols will be met by the casino owners and management. Clearly the Las Vegas Casinos an established Casino will be scared even how establish are they. Anyway, hopefully whatever disputes or any mistakes being made could be arrange so that it will not get to a point of getting a lawsuit and paying penalties.
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August 08, 2020, 06:19:09 AM
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Trump and senate republicans talked about passing a bill that would shield liability from businesses from frivolous lawsuits of people trying to milk them for money stating they got coronavirus from their establishment. This isn't even just limited to casinos. Most mom and pop shops couldn't afford to fight off this lawsuit if someone tried to sue them. They need liability protection.
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