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September 04, 2020, 10:43:08 PM
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Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

It would depend on your VPN, yes, but your ISP always tracks you the moment you connect, and not all VPNs are private enough or good enough that they can hide your trail. You've got to do a lot more than connect to a VPN these days (unless it's a good one). Every visit leaves an electronic breadcrumb.

For example, clean your cookie at first. Good VPN extensions also changing browser language and so on, but they can't to change for example system time (which is needed to do if casino using tracking not through cookies, but "browser signature") so you need to do all of that by your own hands.

And yeah, casinos often uses the best soft, so with a big probability it will be "browser signature" tracker.

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September 05, 2020, 01:53:55 AM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.
Site is not going to recognize the usage of VPNs and users are violating their laws for their benefits, still someone can use VPN safe if they are using premium version static dedicated IP proxy so you will never get caught that you are faking your server and 99% you won't get any issues with this method but it still goes against their terms so account will be banned if they found the violations.

The main issue is that if you are playing at a prohibited site with a VPN and lets suppose you won a jackpot or a big win. The site may hold your withdraw and ask for your KYC. Since you will produce the KYC of a prohibited country, all your winning may be seized and you will be denied of your current balance too. Probably you account will be terminated once they see you violating their terms and conditions.









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September 05, 2020, 02:19:19 AM
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The main issue is that if you are playing at a prohibited site with a VPN and lets suppose you won a jackpot or a big win. The site may hold your withdraw and ask for your KYC. Since you will produce the KYC of a prohibited country, all your winning may be seized and you will be denied of your current balance too. Probably you account will be terminated once they see you violating their terms and conditions.

If that person wants to withdraw all of his win money, yes, the casino will ask about the KYC. But if he can withdraw for small money and not withdraw all money in one time, he will avoid the alarm for withdrawing big money. But what we see many times, people don't delay to withdraw all of the money, but they try to withdraw the money, which makes the casino check their account. And from that, we see many gamblers have a problem in withdrawing the money.

So from that, I think it's about how we can control ourselves, not just in losing the money, but also in winning the money because we don't want to get investigated by the casino or government. Even if the government wants to regulate using limitations of the money that can be used for gambling, we don't have to worry because we can control ourselves.
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September 05, 2020, 08:12:44 AM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.
Site is not going to recognize the usage of VPNs and users are violating their laws for their benefits, still someone can use VPN safe if they are using premium version static dedicated IP proxy so you will never get caught that you are faking your server and 99% you won't get any issues with this method but it still goes against their terms so account will be banned if they found the violations.
Premium version of VPN can't holdback your reward if such gambler find luck to win huge amount from the gambling platform and request be made to know his real identity before withdrawal. Faking stuff on the internet looks good whenever you have nothing to lose, in this case, as a gambler luck can shine on you and win big.

Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost. 

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Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost. 
^ Using this VPN belongs to the most strictly prohibited in many gambling sites, they dont want their costumers to give a chance to exploit their site that possible abuse by the users, it is likely they monitored your internet used. It just a sort of your all data are encrypted to them and they know your device use upon creating the account and login session. Therefore, always read the term of condition or term of use before will start register.
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September 05, 2020, 01:41:46 PM
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Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost. 
^ Using this VPN belongs to the most strictly prohibited in many gambling sites, they dont want their costumers to give a chance to exploit their site that possible abuse by the users, it is likely they monitored your internet used. It just a sort of your all data are encrypted to them and they know your device use upon creating the account and login session. Therefore, always read the term of condition or term of use before will start register.

I disagree.

Gambling sites doesn't have any power to know of you're using a VPN or not, even if you do, well you could use only one server to change your IP address for them not to know where you really are and who you really are. And upon the devices you use, they also do not restrict users to only use one device to gamble (in this age, who only use 1 device)

And I think using multiple devices won't do any harm on their sites, therefore what you have said is all lie.
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September 05, 2020, 01:56:34 PM
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Can our ISP still do that even if we are using VPN to mask our real IP address? I mean, can they know that we are accessing the gambling sites? It would be helpful to me if I get the right answer as I have friends that has an static IP who gambled without using VPN.

It would depend on your VPN, yes, but your ISP always tracks you the moment you connect, and not all VPNs are private enough or good enough that they can hide your trail. You've got to do a lot more than connect to a VPN these days (unless it's a good one). Every visit leaves an electronic breadcrumb.

Good VPN extensions ...

If you mean with "good VPN extensions" browser plugins which says they are VPNs then you are wrong. Such extensions are not really VPS, they are proxies which claim to be VPNs. That's why they are for free. If you want to have a good VPN you need to sign a plan at an established VPN provider.
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September 05, 2020, 09:24:37 PM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Yes, there are casinos that don't allow the use of VPN.

Be sure to read the terms and regulations of that casino before using it. It seems that it's not just about the news that was shared in the original post as there are other regulations of an online casino that can be brought by other members.

Just like the usage of vpn.

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September 05, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Yes, there are casinos that don't allow the use of VPN.

Be sure to read the terms and regulations of that casino before using it. It seems that it's not just about the news that was shared in the original post as there are other regulations of an online casino that can be brought by other members.

Just like the usage of vpn.

Talking about using a VPN when it comes to accessing gambling platforms, I have bad experiences. It is true that not all online
gambling sites allow users to use VPN, there are some gambling sites that prohibit them. I have experienced withdrawal pending
for a long time because I access using a VPN, even I have to do KYC procedure for prove to the gambling sites that the account
belongs to me. So be careful using a VPN to access gambling sites, And make sure to read the terms and regulations of gambling
sites, are there any restrictions on using a VPN or not.

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September 06, 2020, 07:04:36 AM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Yes, there are casinos that don't allow the use of VPN.

Be sure to read the terms and regulations of that casino before using it. It seems that it's not just about the news that was shared in the original post as there are other regulations of an online casino that can be brought by other members.

Just like the usage of vpn.

Talking about using a VPN when it comes to accessing gambling platforms, I have bad experiences. It is true that not all online
gambling sites allow users to use VPN, there are some gambling sites that prohibit them. I have experienced withdrawal pending
for a long time because I access using a VPN, even I have to do KYC procedure for prove to the gambling sites that the account
belongs to me. So be careful using a VPN to access gambling sites, And make sure to read the terms and regulations of gambling
sites, are there any restrictions on using a VPN or not.

This is the most common problem when someone is using VPN. Because sometimes you will not see that kind of restrictions when you visit the site and you will only know it once withdrawal time comes. So if you will use VPN, make sure you inquire that from the gambling site as well. Better prepare for what's to come rather than lose your funds for simple mistake.
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September 06, 2020, 10:04:31 AM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Yes, there are casinos that don't allow the use of VPN.

Be sure to read the terms and regulations of that casino before using it. It seems that it's not just about the news that was shared in the original post as there are other regulations of an online casino that can be brought by other members.

Just like the usage of vpn.

Talking about using a VPN when it comes to accessing gambling platforms, I have bad experiences. It is true that not all online
gambling sites allow users to use VPN, there are some gambling sites that prohibit them. I have experienced withdrawal pending
for a long time because I access using a VPN, even I have to do KYC procedure for prove to the gambling sites that the account
belongs to me. So be careful using a VPN to access gambling sites, And make sure to read the terms and regulations of gambling
sites, are there any restrictions on using a VPN or not.
Thank you for sharing that experience of yours.

What's the casino which you have used VPN? they are very strict for users who are using VPN and they have to verify it through KYC. If someone will experience this with a casino that has strict implemention of their VPN rules.

You have no choice but to comply their KYC requirement.

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September 06, 2020, 11:19:30 AM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Yes, there are casinos that don't allow the use of VPN.

Be sure to read the terms and regulations of that casino before using it. It seems that it's not just about the news that was shared in the original post as there are other regulations of an online casino that can be brought by other members.

Just like the usage of vpn.

Talking about using a VPN when it comes to accessing gambling platforms, I have bad experiences. It is true that not all online
gambling sites allow users to use VPN, there are some gambling sites that prohibit them. I have experienced withdrawal pending
for a long time because I access using a VPN, even I have to do KYC procedure for prove to the gambling sites that the account
belongs to me. So be careful using a VPN to access gambling sites, And make sure to read the terms and regulations of gambling
sites, are there any restrictions on using a VPN or not.
Thank you for sharing that experience of yours.

What's the casino which you have used VPN? they are very strict for users who are using VPN and they have to verify it through KYC. If someone will experience this with a casino that has strict implemention of their VPN rules.

You have no choice but to comply their KYC requirement.

VPN is not illegal, that's a way to hide our real ip address and it could give us some good security, if we can comply with the KYC since the requirement was only KYC, then I don't think a site would hold the withdrawal, unless they are a scam site.

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September 06, 2020, 12:40:58 PM
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Many of these victims( those using VPN and fortunately win big) always put services on forum service section to find someone from the region to help do KYC, sometimes they don't find and their winnings get lost. 
^ Using this VPN belongs to the most strictly prohibited in many gambling sites, they dont want their costumers to give a chance to exploit their site that possible abuse by the users, it is likely they monitored your internet used. It just a sort of your all data are encrypted to them and they know your device use upon creating the account and login session. Therefore, always read the term of condition or term of use before will start register.

I disagree.

Gambling sites doesn't have any power to know of you're using a VPN or not, even if you do, well you could use only one server to change your IP address for them not to know where you really are and who you really are. And upon the devices you use, they also do not restrict users to only use one device to gamble (in this age, who only use 1 device)

And I think using multiple devices won't do any harm on their sites, therefore what you have said is all lie.

Based on what you have said, how come gambling casinos often seize accounts in some certain jurisdiction?(those who never reads platforms TOS before getten actively involve in their service)  This also include cryptocurrency exchanges too. I think when you create account with a gambling casino your logs session should be recorded, how do you outsmart them by switching to VPN when a session has be recorded?.

Multiple device can't do magic IMO; assume such a gambler win big and make withdrawal which result to KYC?. "Prevention as they said is better than cure".

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September 06, 2020, 01:58:41 PM
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VPN is not illegal, that's a way to hide our real ip address and it could give us some good security, if we can comply with the KYC since the requirement was only KYC, then I don't think a site would hold the withdrawal, unless they are a scam site.
It is not illegal and nobody says that it is illegal.

The hassle is, you want to hide your real ip address then the casino finds you are using a VPN then they have a VPN rule which they don't allow it.

The ending is you have to follow KYC if you have already deposited or you have pending balance for withdrawal.

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September 06, 2020, 04:31:35 PM
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Of course you can switch-on to VPN: though not advisable. This has caused so many displeased stories on this forum in which gamblers( victims) where queried for not properly read the TOS of some gambling platforms. The use of this VPN can cause frozen of account with some gambling platforms or when detected during withdrawal process funds will be seize and forfeited for violation. While use VPN, be ready for the outcome.
Yes, there are casinos that don't allow the use of VPN.

Be sure to read the terms and regulations of that casino before using it. It seems that it's not just about the news that was shared in the original post as there are other regulations of an online casino that can be brought by other members.

Just like the usage of vpn.

Talking about using a VPN when it comes to accessing gambling platforms, I have bad experiences. It is true that not all online
gambling sites allow users to use VPN, there are some gambling sites that prohibit them. I have experienced withdrawal pending
for a long time because I access using a VPN, even I have to do KYC procedure for prove to the gambling sites that the account
belongs to me. So be careful using a VPN to access gambling sites, And make sure to read the terms and regulations of gambling
sites, are there any restrictions on using a VPN or not.
Thank you for sharing that experience of yours.

What's the casino which you have used VPN? they are very strict for users who are using VPN and they have to verify it through KYC. If someone will experience this with a casino that has strict implemention of their VPN rules.

You have no choice but to comply their KYC requirement.

VPN is not illegal, that's a way to hide our real ip address and it could give us some good security, if we can comply with the KYC since the requirement was only KYC, then I don't think a site would hold the withdrawal, unless they are a scam site.
Agreed, by the time we need to be sure of following and sticking within the rules and regulations framed by the gambling websites itself. In that if the website allows access through VPN, then it isn't an issue. If not at times when arises issue, the support team will indicate the use of VPN as the reason and end the support ticket.

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September 07, 2020, 02:39:59 AM
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Agreed, by the time we need to be sure of following and sticking within the rules and regulations framed by the gambling websites itself. In that if the website allows access through VPN, then it isn't an issue. If not at times when arises issue, the support team will indicate the use of VPN as the reason and end the support ticket.

I think if we use a private VPN, the gambling site will not be a problem. But if we use a free VPN, perhaps, that could be a problem for us since many people access the same IP at the same time. But so far, I don't use a VPN to visit the gambling site because my ISP is not blocking many gambling sites, and it seems, and the ISP is okay with that.

But if there will be regulations from the government, I think that will be a problem for the gamblers because they will hard to visit on the gambling website through their real IP. So they need to use private VPN to visit on the gambling site.
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September 07, 2020, 05:04:30 AM
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Of course its not fun when a gambler have baned of account because he doesnt read the sites rules carefully. I have logged in several times and gambled on sites that are blocked in my country using a VPN, its just that I didnt experience any problem because all of my bet were lost. Supposedly if the site prohibit the use of VPNs then they also dont accept any bet from the account. I believe the gamblers fault belong, as the site has stated it on the rules. Avoiding risks is the best option.

It makes me confuse and doubtful at the same time, because sometimes, I use VPN even if my country isn't blocked by the casino themselves. I am wondering if there's a possiblity that my accounts could be banned in this way, even if I created the account in my country with an inactive VPN, then login to another country? Perhaps, I am just fortunate to also get IP from another country where the platform is legal.

But if I am not mistaken, there are gambling sites that also detects malicious IP's (IP's who uses VPN) and they also prohibit users to use the platform, maybe it is a precautionary measure to avoid users who are abusing welcome offers.
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September 07, 2020, 07:22:42 AM
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Agreed, by the time we need to be sure of following and sticking within the rules and regulations framed by the gambling websites itself. In that if the website allows access through VPN, then it isn't an issue. If not at times when arises issue, the support team will indicate the use of VPN as the reason and end the support ticket.

I think if we use a private VPN, the gambling site will not be a problem. But if we use a free VPN, perhaps, that could be a problem for us since many people access the same IP at the same time. But so far, I don't use a VPN to visit the gambling site because my ISP is not blocking many gambling sites, and it seems, and the ISP is okay with that.

But if there will be regulations from the government, I think that will be a problem for the gamblers because they will hard to visit on the gambling website through their real IP. So they need to use private VPN to visit on the gambling site.

Private IP may also not be able to help when bypassing locks... As wrote above, some sites may track VPN usage via special software...


For example, clean your cookie at first. Good VPN extensions also changing browser language and so on, but they can't to change for example system time (which is needed to do if casino using tracking not through cookies, but "browser signature") so you need to do all of that by your own hands.

And yeah, casinos often uses the best soft, so with a big probability it will be "browser signature" tracker.

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September 08, 2020, 01:26:12 AM
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Private IP may also not be able to help when bypassing locks... As wrote above, some sites may track VPN usage via special software...

No, I think it is working to bypassing the locks. Some sites don't mean all sites Wink

I don't know if they use special software to track the VPN, but I don't have a problem to gamble on the gambling sites as far as I use the VPN.

But when the regulations are applied on the online gambling sites, whether it's fiat or crypto online gambling sites, we can't do anything except follow the regulations. Perhaps, some online gambling sites don't use that regulation so that we can search for another online gambling.
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September 08, 2020, 06:09:27 AM
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I like their idea to limit the gambling bets for those who couldn't really afford it but couldn't also stop on gambling but the question here is it is really effective?
People would still find a way to cheat it we already see so many KYC policy that has been cheated by so many people so I think this could also be cheated too.
And if this kind of policy would be implemented then I think plenty of people would also make a business out of it making some accounts for the gamblers to buy so that they could continue to gamble.
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