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December 30, 2024, 12:20:55 PM
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Coaching issues is something that PSG isn't suffering at this time and even the players aren't really the problem, it's actually beginning to feel like a fundamental and tactical issue around them, and if they get it fixed they actually can gradually get to the point where they can be able to contend for the league title.  so even they having this star players couldn't salvage them.
I totally agree with your submission that Paris Saint Germaine's problem is with their managers. The reason why they've been dominating French football for too long is because the club management have spent so much money in bringing top quality players to the club and not because of the managerial abilities of their managers.
It's a big error to be dominating one of the top five leagues in Europe for over a decade and still can't boost of any European trophy. The current manager of Paris Saint Germaine Luis Enrique won the UEFA Champions League with Barcelona in 2015 so I was a better European success with PSG than any other manager have managed with the French champions but it seems it's not happening anytime soon
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In my opinion the PSG coach should be more ambitious, they spent money making some senseless signings in the last transfer window, they could have signed Victor Osimhen as a replacement for Mbappe, they could also have signed other famous players and then kept these players long term to create a team capable of winning the European Champions League. Why stay every season and win Ligue 1 but get to the European Champions League and don't win, then the fans and the team owners won't have much faith in the team, they will always be looking at PSG as being a strong team only in the French


I think that ambition is still there, but we also have to consider that ambition must also be accompanied by their impressive game, because if it's just ambition, I think it will make them even more messy. If you look at what they have, they actually have what they need, but they fail to utilize it well. Apart from that, they also fail to provide comfort within the team, such as when they have some of the best players in the world, but their internal situation is not conducive and there are problems that eventually become obstacles too.

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December 30, 2024, 01:09:30 PM
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There is a Trophée des Champions finale between PSG and Monaco on January 5, 2025.



This cup is also dominated by PSG just as the Ligue 1 has been. They have dominated it since 2013 and only once they lost the cup to another team which was Lille.  Smiley  Considering this data, I wouldn't prefer anything different than PSG win @1.65 for betting here. I even find the odds quite high and favorable though. If we don't see a big rotation, I don't expect any surprises. They already beat Monaco in the Ligue 1 a short time ago you know.  Wink

I think PSG will still win at least 3 cups (this one, the Ligue 1 and Coupe de France) this season. But for the Champions League, I have near 0 expectation.
Its majorly a French game, mostly French teams are the ones that gets to participate in this games, they only have PSG as one of the most solid team across almost all of the French tournaments where in they participate so them dominating this too shouldn't come with any form of surprise as they are still in their less competitive region. this is one of the reasons they usually don't talk much about this competition or even count it as one of their major wins for the season as their dominance on this is most times almost sealing that they don't really need all that efforts to get it.
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December 30, 2024, 01:29:06 PM
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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance. 
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL

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December 30, 2024, 01:51:24 PM
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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance. 
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL
At the beginning of season confidently Luis Enrique says PSG will be fine without Mbappe even he says this season PSG will be more solid in all competitions rather than last season but apparently without Mbappe PSG only strong in Ligue 1 but in Champion league their performance similar to mediocre team and PSG even will not qualified to the next round if lost from Manchester City for 7th match later so i think this proven PSG still unable to playing consitent without star players although last summer PSG buy players but in fact none of the current players of PSG who equal quality to Mbappe
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December 30, 2024, 02:02:40 PM
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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance. 
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL
In the Champions League they are truly less productive so they enter the relegation zone, so it could be because they don't have star players so they are quite difficult to balance themselves with the current champions league conditions that are very competitive, in contrast to League 1 they can still dominate even though they Do not have star players to compete there, have 10 points more with the team below, Marseille, Enrique really slumped in the situation in the Champions League, but they still have a little chance to get into the play off.

Or indeed Enrique is more focused on them in League 1 to get a perfect victory because the same team from League 1 in the Champions League is pretty good, it could be a scenario that Enrique did.

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December 30, 2024, 02:26:40 PM
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I believe the coach or the players are not the real problem for PSG, they once had a good coach, Thomas Tuchel in 2018 and at that time PSG already had Neymar and Mbappe but still PSG were unable to win the UCL title but they were once Runner Up after that they were unable to reach the final again even when they added Messi nothing changed at all PSG still struggled in the UCL and they always changed coaches to achieve what they wanted, now PSG no longer has a star player so that Luis has difficulty balancing PSG's performance in the league and UCL.
Winning the UCL trophy is the only dream that has not been achieved so far, PSG still struggles to compete in European competitions even though they have managed to dominate Ligue 1. This weakness has not been solved until now, even though they had a luxurious squad, they still have not been able to achieve the targets that the club owner has always wanted. Luis Enrique was expected to make a difference, but the reality is that PSG are still struggling to find their identity in the UCL, even this season they are in danger of not qualifying for the last 16.
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At the beginning of season confidently Luis Enrique says PSG will be fine without Mbappe even he says this season PSG will be more solid in all competitions rather than last season but apparently without Mbappe PSG only strong in Ligue 1 but in Champion league their performance similar to mediocre team and PSG even will not qualified to the next round if lost from Manchester City for 7th match later so i think this proven PSG still unable to playing consitent without star players although last summer PSG buy players but in fact none of the current players of PSG who equal quality to Mbappe
With or without Kylian Mbappe PSG has not always been outstanding in the UEFA Champions League. They came close to winning the title in 2019–20 when they had stars like Lionel Messi and Neymar when they finished as runner-up. In 2021-2022 they were defeated in the semi-finals by Manchester City. Agreed that the French striker is more exceptional than most other strikers in the French outfit but it will be certain that they are missing him if they fail to win the French League because it was the highest trophy they keep winning when he was still in the club.

The Louis Enrique side still has the opportunity to continue fighting for the UCL title since they still have the chance to qualify for the next round. But they will need so much luck to be able to make an impact this season because their performance is far below some clubs in the competition.

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December 30, 2024, 02:47:31 PM
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Sometimes things don't go well. We can talk about such things for Paris Saint-Germain. Although they have a great squad, I remember one time they were paired with Manchester City and Manchester City was in a very good period and City eliminated them. This year, Paris Saint-Germain is only fighting for the Playoffs. Things are going their way in the French League, but what is important is that they have been disappointing in the Champions League this year.

That's true because people are worrying to much about Paris Saint-Germain while on the other hand they are not worried, I'm not bordered about anything concerning them on the champions League because they no that is not for them but they will always contest every season, the change about them is not that much compare to the time of Mbappe because their home league is already theirs now just like when Mbappe was present but the change is just on the champions League because they never experienced 25 position before but this time they have and Celtic is even more candidate then they are, however premier league clubs and Spanish team are the most impressive on the champions League competition and the wining might come from either side.

 
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Winning the UCL trophy is the only dream that has not been achieved so far, PSG still struggles to compete in European competitions even though they have managed to dominate Ligue 1. This weakness has not been solved until now, even though they had a luxurious squad, they still have not been able to achieve the targets that the club owner has always wanted. Luis Enrique was expected to make a difference, but the reality is that PSG are still struggling to find their identity in the UCL, even this season they are in danger of not qualifying for the last 16.
That's right, it's very painful if PSG fails to reach the last 16 this season, a luxurious squad cannot guarantee success, even though Luis Enrique has enough experience in the Champions League. People will think that PSG will have a hard time competing in the Champions League without Mbappe, and PSG passive transfer steps, by not looking for a replacement for Mbappe, will certainly be the target of criticism later. Nasser Al-Khelaifi dream of seeing PSG win the Champions League trophy has not come true, their investment in a number of star players has only been able to produce results at the domestic level. Manchester City seems to be a nightmare for PSG in the next match.

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There is a Trophée des Champions finale between PSG and Monaco on January 5, 2025.



This cup is also dominated by PSG just as the Ligue 1 has been. They have dominated it since 2013 and only once they lost the cup to another team which was Lille.  Smiley  Considering this data, I wouldn't prefer anything different than PSG win @1.65 for betting here. I even find the odds quite high and favorable though. If we don't see a big rotation, I don't expect any surprises. They already beat Monaco in the Ligue 1 a short time ago you know.  Wink

I think PSG will still win at least 3 cups (this one, the Ligue 1 and Coupe de France) this season. But for the Champions League, I have near 0 expectation.
The Super Cup has actually been dominated by PSG for years and even this time I don’t see any changes likely to happen but the opponent they will be facing this time around will not make it easy for them maybe that’s why the odds is a little bit higher than it is supposed to be.
Monaco has been struggling in recent games and they have lost 4 of their last 7 games and won just 2 which shows that they have not been performing too well in recent games and when compared with PSG it’s quite a say to predict PSG as the winner of the game.

PSG have shown some dominance this season and no doubt they will surely win trophies this season as they already have a final at hand and also 10 points clear in the League making it 2 trophies at hand for them even though it’s not certain yet but they are the favorites to win all these trophies.

 
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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance. 
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL
PSG performance in the Champions League this season is nothing to write home about. They are only putting up good performances in their domestic league. I don't know why no club can shock PSG in Ligue 1, and win the league from them, because their dominance is what make them feel that they are strong enough to big among the big teams in UCL, but I don't see them as one.

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December 30, 2024, 05:08:14 PM
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There is a Trophée des Champions finale between PSG and Monaco on January 5, 2025.



This cup is also dominated by PSG just as the Ligue 1 has been. They have dominated it since 2013 and only once they lost the cup to another team which was Lille.  Smiley  Considering this data, I wouldn't prefer anything different than PSG win @1.65 for betting here. I even find the odds quite high and favorable though. If we don't see a big rotation, I don't expect any surprises. They already beat Monaco in the Ligue 1 a short time ago you know.  Wink

I think PSG will still win at least 3 cups (this one, the Ligue 1 and Coupe de France) this season. But for the Champions League, I have near 0 expectation.
Monaco isn't one of those random teams that can be easily beaten and knowing fully well that that game is a final, I expect them to give Paris Saint Germaine a very tough encounter. Monaco in recent times haven't won trophies but now have the opportunity of getting winning one if only they can beat the French champions. Luis Enrique on the other hand would want to win all domestic trophies to still retain his job since he's very much aware that winning an European trophy this season is almost impossible. It'll definitely be an interesting game to watch by neutrals so I'll definitely be glued to my screen on 5th of January to know which of them will come out victorious
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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance. 
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL
Honestly, looking at the league, PSG is still capable of beating all of these teams, and that is not really a shocker to anyone, we all know that PSG is a better team than Brest, or Monaco or Lille, these teams can't even hold a candle to PSG's light, there is no comparison. But why did PSG do badly at UCL? That is a whole another question and to be fair I am not entirely sure of the answer neither, I have no idea why that happened, which is why it's very bad and I would guess it has something to do within the team.

Because, if they are better than these teams at the league, but doing worse than them at UCL, there must be some difference. Sure they mostly played against different teams but not like PSG faced some insanely stronger teams, they lost to some smaller clubs too and I have no idea why that happened at all, feels like it just doesn't reach to that conclusion to me, doesn't feel like it would make that much sense at the moment and we will eventually see how it will go on.

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The Super Cup has actually been dominated by PSG for years and even this time I don’t see any changes likely to happen but the opponent they will be facing this time around will not make it easy for them maybe that’s why the odds is a little bit higher than it is supposed to be.
Monaco has been struggling in recent games and they have lost 4 of their last 7 games and won just 2 which shows that they have not been performing too well in recent games and when compared with PSG it’s quite a say to predict PSG as the winner of the game.

PSG have shown some dominance this season and no doubt they will surely win trophies this season as they already have a final at hand and also 10 points clear in the League making it 2 trophies at hand for them even though it’s not certain yet but they are the favorites to win all these trophies.
After PSG control gone under Qatari owners we have complete dominance of PSG in French soccer with they won 10 Ligue 1 titles out of 12, and also they have 10 Super Cups out of 12 as well which is telling all story of their dominance in this league and soccer this all happening just because of no other club is able to have challenged them with things are completely going under their control due to big investments and having quality players.

French soccer in overall is on decline for years with not positive move is coming and also expectations are also not good for having anything better even its already talked many times, but few things are also not under control of management as they are not able to bring good investment which increase other clubs quality which is essential for having better results and quality competition.

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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance.  
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL
PSG are playing better than ever now, no idea if they are playing because of the new players or the same players who used to draw and lose the match and are now winning the match with hard work and good performance And in their good record, they have not lost a single match in the last 5 matches played. PSG have played bad matches which is why they are in such a distant position, if they still work hard they can improve and do a good position this season. PSG has the last chance to win all their next matches fast enough and by more goals to increase their position day by day or else the victory of this season will also slip from their hands.











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Its majorly a French game, mostly French teams are the ones that gets to participate in this games, they only have PSG as one of the most solid team across almost all of the French tournaments where in they participate so them dominating this too shouldn't come with any form of surprise as they are still in their less competitive region. this is one of the reasons they usually don't talk much about this competition or even count it as one of their major wins for the season as their dominance on this is most times almost sealing that they don't really need all that efforts to get it.
Up to 16 matches, not a single Ligue 1 team was able to beat PSG. So far PSG have only failed to win full points in 4 matches which ended in a draw, in the rest they won all the points. This unbeaten record is basically very good for Luis Enrique to maintain, but the competition may get tougher which makes it difficult for PSG to maintain its consistency.

PSG are also favorites in the match against Saint-Étienne for matchday 17, but PSG must complete their mission first in the final against Monaco for the French Super Cup. PSG are favorites to win the title due to their good form, but Monaco should still not be underestimated even though PSG won their previous match against the same team.

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We have seen a lot of drama and a lot of problems in PSG club so as a football lover I don't want to see any more drama in this club now I just want to see some changes in the club that changes will bring the team back to good performance. 
The caliber of PSG without world-class players will be like this, they are indeed so strong in the French Ligue 1, but in the UCL? Look at the difference between this season and last season without Mbappe, PSG even fell to 25th position. Even worse, of all the representatives of Ligue 1, PSG became the worst. While Brest and LOSC even entered the top 8 and Monaco was at number 16. PSG's game in the UCL was so bad, unstoppable. There are still 2 final matches, who knows what the results will be.
and now, even PSG is in the elimination places position.

Source: Clubs from Ligue 1 in UCL
We more or less anticipated that PSG would have a such typical UCL struggles. Sure, they had not lost a game in Ligue 1, but when the competition gets tougher, their weaknesses show. Mbappé’s absence is obvious; he is the player who sets the game alight for the team. Without Mbappé, those tough moments where he’d bail them out are much harder to handle. Enrique’s tactics are working domestically, but UCL exposes everything

However, it is nice to observe Brest and Lille doing so well. It shows Ligue 1 clubs can compete on the big stage when they’re underestimated. Even Monaco is hanging in there despite injuries. PSG might be struggling now, but these two final matches could still turn things around. They have the stars. It is just a matter of producing when it matters

However, the question remains, what is PSG’s plan of action for the future? Should they continue with the youth system or should they go in search of another big name player to come in for Mbappé? Whatever happens, this season is already a lesson for them. It’s not like Europe will just give you time to sort yourself out

 
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December 30, 2024, 09:14:46 PM
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We more or less anticipated that PSG would have a such typical UCL struggles. Sure, they had not lost a game in Ligue 1, but when the competition gets tougher, their weaknesses show. Mbappé’s absence is obvious; he is the player who sets the game alight for the team. Without Mbappé, those tough moments where he’d bail them out are much harder to handle. Enrique’s tactics are working domestically, but UCL exposes everything

However, it is nice to observe Brest and Lille doing so well. It shows Ligue 1 clubs can compete on the big stage when they’re underestimated. Even Monaco is hanging in there despite injuries. PSG might be struggling now, but these two final matches could still turn things around. They have the stars. It is just a matter of producing when it matters

However, the question remains, what is PSG’s plan of action for the future? Should they continue with the youth system or should they go in search of another big name player to come in for Mbappé? Whatever happens, this season is already a lesson for them. It’s not like Europe will just give you time to sort yourself out
Nasser Al-Khelaifi has campaigned for PSG to enter a new era without Mbappe, but we don't know for sure what steps they will take in the short and long term. Maybe PSG will change their transfer policy which has so far seemed wasteful, likes to shop for star players, and expects instant results to come in a short time. However, it is possible that PSG will try a different approach, building an even squad depth and trying to become a more collective team, not meaning they don't need star players.

On the other hand, looking at the current facts, without Mbappe PSG clearly looks very difficult, and is even threatened with being eliminated early from the Champions League this season. The management and club officials may try to find a solution in the January transfer window, to secure their chances of reaching the last 16. Meanwhile, no one expected this season Brest, Lille and AS Monaco to shine more in the Champions League than PSG, although in Ligue 1 the three of them were unable to break PSG dominance.

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December 30, 2024, 11:30:24 PM
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We more or less anticipated that PSG would have a such typical UCL struggles. Sure, they had not lost a game in Ligue 1, but when the competition gets tougher, their weaknesses show. Mbappé’s absence is obvious; he is the player who sets the game alight for the team. Without Mbappé, those tough moments where he’d bail them out are much harder to handle. Enrique’s tactics are working domestically, but UCL exposes everything

However, it is nice to observe Brest and Lille doing so well. It shows Ligue 1 clubs can compete on the big stage when they’re underestimated. Even Monaco is hanging in there despite injuries. PSG might be struggling now, but these two final matches could still turn things around. They have the stars. It is just a matter of producing when it matters

However, the question remains, what is PSG’s plan of action for the future? Should they continue with the youth system or should they go in search of another big name player to come in for Mbappé? Whatever happens, this season is already a lesson for them. It’s not like Europe will just give you time to sort yourself out
Nasser Al-Khelaifi has campaigned for PSG to enter a new era without Mbappe, but we don't know for sure what steps they will take in the short and long term. Maybe PSG will change their transfer policy which has so far seemed wasteful, likes to shop for star players, and expects instant results to come in a short time. However, it is possible that PSG will try a different approach, building an even squad depth and trying to become a more collective team, not meaning they don't need star players.

On the other hand, looking at the current facts, without Mbappe PSG clearly looks very difficult, and is even threatened with being eliminated early from the Champions League this season. The management and club officials may try to find a solution in the January transfer window, to secure their chances of reaching the last 16. Meanwhile, no one expected this season Brest, Lille and AS Monaco to shine more in the Champions League than PSG, although in Ligue 1 the three of them were unable to break PSG dominance.




Luis Enrique is already thinking about making changes.
I reading in the newspaper 'Equipe' that Gianluigi Donnarumma would like to stay in PSG and his priority is to renewal his contract, but seems that Enrique has not interested in him and has even introduced Donnarumma's replacement to the club.
Donnarumma will be sold next summer, This happens when he has one year left on his contract.
They plan to sign Marco Kranzki in summer, he played great in Serie A this season and has helped Atalanta to the top of the table.
I think this change might make PSG shine more in Europe.
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