My domain name + your idea/business

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3. This is only a subset of the "coin" + (term) .com domains I own.  I've already sold some previously.  Guess what, a bit more than a $10 reg fee.  I didn't even hand reg any of these, a majority are from auction or dropcaught.

have you ever managed to sell a domain for such serious prices? $12500 ... do you think it sells as easily as $10 domains?
Try to sell one domain for big money, just to get some experience.

Of course I'm not planning on partnering for free, what kind of idiot would be?

The domain owner is a business owner also. So anyone who's accepting your business invitation should know, that 100% of them is under your control. You must agree that is not promising and does not bring any security to your potential partners.
The domain is important, but it should not be exaggerated and given more importance than it should.

Thanks for your contribution to the conversation.

Yes, I've sold domains for more than $10,000 before.  I've been buying domains since 2006 as I mentioned, before having anything to do with crypto (obviously).  You shouldn't assume my level of experience, just as I don't assume yours.

As I mentioned everything would be done contractually and the domain would leave my possession.  It's not uncommon to create agreements structured like this.

What it would mean is that, no, I wouldn't have 100% control.  The domain is held by a 3rd party.  Everything would happen according to a pre-determined set of clauses.

I agree, domains are not the be-all and end-all, and they shouldn't be given too much importance.  I haven't suggested they are important, just that if someone is interested in the proposal we can discuss it.

[Balaxi]

coinhires.com
coinfuck.com
coinsurveys.com
coinmadam.com
coindolly.com
coinautopilot.com
coinpasswords.com
coinhostel.com
coinrumble.com
coinranked.com
cointipjar.com
coinbrewery.com
coindiplomas.com
coingals.com


I don't think any of these domains worth it even the registration + ICANN fee.  

1. I'm not trying to sell them.

2.



3. This is only a subset of the "coin" + (term) .com domains I own.  I've already sold some previously.  Guess what, a bit more than a $10 reg fee.  I didn't even hand reg any of these, a majority are from auction or dropcaught.

This is on paper. I dunno the domains feel overpriced, empty shells only.

[electronicash]

coinhires.com
coinfuck.com
coinsurveys.com
coinmadam.com
coindolly.com
coinautopilot.com
coinpasswords.com
coinhostel.com
coinrumble.com
coinranked.com
cointipjar.com
coinbrewery.com
coindiplomas.com
coingals.com


I don't think any of these domains worth it even the registration + ICANN fee.  

1. I'm not trying to sell them.

2.



3. This is only a subset of the "coin" + (term) .com domains I own.  I've already sold some previously.  Guess what, a bit more than a $10 reg fee.  I didn't even hand reg any of these, a majority are from auction or dropcaught.

This is on paper. I dunno the domains feel overpriced, empty shells only.

its always over price when you buy it on the registrar itself. they label it premium when its really.  i have been trying to sell some domains i have in the past that i just let expired but after sometime i saw it on sedo with a selling price of $11k. its always over priced.

but buying it form the owners will save you unless the owner will not take the price  and abuse to bid up.

[Harlot]

coinrumble might be a good name for a crypto comparison site.

But give up a percentage of the company for $10?   Just register the .net  domain and keep all ownership.

It's a fair point in the sense that .nets are available for many of these, but they were all dropcaught, not free reg'd.  If you go onto any sites like dan.com and search for "coin" + (viable single word).com domains, you won't find any for less than $1,000.

I tried to secure coincrush.com a few months ago, their price was $13,000 (unfortunately)... it's a good name for a range of different projects. 

cointube.com dropped about a month ago and sold instantly at auction for about $8k from memory.

Well depending on how the project''s potential will be I don't think q businessman will mind spending a couple thousanda of dollars on finding an alternative for the domain rather than hiving a percentage of their company/business in exchange for the name. No guy in his right mind would give a big piece of their idea just because they got the name first especially if there are good alternatives in the web. If you are looking for a business partner you need to shell out more than a domain or at least an equal amount of capital your business partner will be shelling out.

[aioc]

If I am a content creator I will do the easy and the safest way buy my own domain so I am not obligated by any contract I can do whatever I please with my content and my domain with no restrictions whatsoever, I can even sell my own domain after it gets a good rank at 100 times profit and it will only cost me $10 to start I don't care about the name, content is important.

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coinhires.com
coinfuck.com
coinsurveys.com
coinmadam.com
coindolly.com
coinautopilot.com
coinpasswords.com
coinhostel.com
coinrumble.com
coinranked.com
cointipjar.com
coinbrewery.com
coindiplomas.com
coingals.com


I don't think any of these domains worth it even the registration + ICANN fee.  

1. I'm not trying to sell them.

2.



3. This is only a subset of the "coin" + (term) .com domains I own.  I've already sold some previously.  Guess what, a bit more than a $10 reg fee.  I didn't even hand reg any of these, a majority are from auction or dropcaught.

This is on paper. I dunno the domains feel overpriced, empty shells only.

its always over price when you buy it on the registrar itself. they label it premium when its really.  i have been trying to sell some domains i have in the past that i just let expired but after sometime i saw it on sedo with a selling price of $11k. its always over priced.

but buying it form the owners will save you unless the owner will not take the price  and abuse to bid up.

Yeah this is true.  When they brought out all the new gtlds about 5 years ago they started labelling some domains premium and put insane price tags on them.

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coinrumble might be a good name for a crypto comparison site.

But give up a percentage of the company for $10?   Just register the .net  domain and keep all ownership.

It's a fair point in the sense that .nets are available for many of these, but they were all dropcaught, not free reg'd.  If you go onto any sites like dan.com and search for "coin" + (viable single word).com domains, you won't find any for less than $1,000.

I tried to secure coincrush.com a few months ago, their price was $13,000 (unfortunately)... it's a good name for a range of different projects. 

cointube.com dropped about a month ago and sold instantly at auction for about $8k from memory.

Well depending on how the project''s potential will be I don't think q businessman will mind spending a couple thousanda of dollars on finding an alternative for the domain rather than hiving a percentage of their company/business in exchange for the name. No guy in his right mind would give a big piece of their idea just because they got the name first especially if there are good alternatives in the web. If you are looking for a business partner you need to shell out more than a domain or at least an equal amount of capital your business partner will be shelling out.

Thanks for your comment, it's appreciated.

Look, I'll put it into a concrete scenario.  I'm building a site right now, and about 6 months ago I was developing ideas for the name/brand/domain.

I found about 10 I really liked, but 2 of them were amazing.  I would take any of the other ones, but the 2 good ones would be perfect for the concept, and were very brandable, authoritative names.

So I reached out to the owners of the 2.  One of them said they would sell for $50k... Ok, that's off the cards right away.

The second one gave me a reasonable price in the $x,xxx range.  I bartered him down a bit and then bought it.

Now I was happy to buy the domain because I think I got it at a price that is reasonable, but if the owner said to me "If you're interested, you can use the domain in return for 0.5% of the profits of the business over the first 2 years, where if that is more than the price I'm quoting you anyway then you would keep the domain at the end of the two years", then I would have preferred to have taken that deal, kept the funds I outlaid for the domain for marketing and development, and then been able to use the ideal domain for my platform while only losing 0.5% of profit for doing so.

If you disagree with this being a something I should prefer to do, ok.  But that's where I'm coming from with this.  It presents an opportunity for a project to get a domain for their crypto startup without needing to settle for something less or pay a lot for it. 

Regarding the idea, I don't even really care about it.  I would only need to know the basics of what the idea is, ie. it's an exchange, its blog, it's a forum.  If it's a totally new super secret genius idea, I don't need to know what it is, and more to the point, I don't care.  I've got enough super secret crypto ideas bouncing around my head anyway - I just like partnering with professionals on good projects.

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If I am a content creator I will do the easy and the safest way buy my own domain so I am not obligated by any contract I can do whatever I please with my content and my domain with no restrictions whatsoever, I can even sell my own domain after it gets a good rank at 100 times profit and it will only cost me $10 to start I don't care about the name, content is important.

Well I understand your perspective, it's good to be in control.

I guess what it depends on is whether you're trying to set up another c-grade blog in the crypto space, which everyone has seen 1000 times, and they have bad design, and they look cheap, and the name is something that makes the blog sound low grade, or whether you're trying to set up something which is going to be a high quality platform.

I'm not saying that these domains are needed for setting up something high quality, in fact there are lots of domains out there that are much nicer for crypto businesses.. much nicer.

But if you set up businesses online and your mindset is "I don't care what the name is, only content matters" I can guarantee that whatever you do will fail, and the content probably isn't that good either.

In order to be successful amongst hundreds and thousands of low grade blogs and projects in the crypto space, all you have to do is care more than them about quality.  It's not just about domain names, but that is a part of it.  With a poor quality domain name people will see you coming from a mile off, and when they come to your site they will switch off.

A good example, look at the success that CCN.com had in a short period of time.  They had good content combined with good marketing, but they didn't just buy some shitty name like cryptoworldnews.com or cryptocurrencynews.com, they bought CCN.com, which cost them ALOT, but which also built their brand and made them stand out from the other crap blogs in the space.

I'm not sure if you've ever set up an online business, but if you haven't then once you do you'll understand - when you try as hard as you can to get people to care about it, but realise that what you're offering just isn't special because the name or the design or something is obviously low quality and no one gives a shit about low quality sites.

[Balaxi]

Ain't sure about CCN. They became full retard tabloid with close to zero crypto content.

I/we run a news site/blog/whatever in a small country as well, but if we would purely focus on crypto topics, we couldn't survive. So opening to mainstream topics is kinda necessary here (while also keeping our main narrative and even smuggling hints, sentences, paragraphs about cryptos in to the mainstream targeted contents). We are doing it since 2016, wanna expand and try us out internationally, even in other fields (adult industry + crypto - after seeing the domain name seriously made me thinking, I was thinking on something similar to livejasmin - but with crypto ) but we don't even dream about selling it one day for 100x or even 10x return. Media is an arduous process if you build things from scratch. Blogging is just blogging.

CCN made a conscious decision in 2018 to start pivoting towards mainstream and yeah, the biggest money in media is currently in tabloid and clickbait. That is what they do now. But considered as upstart among The Sun, Bild, Guardian etc. those are decades old prints. I am in doubt if their domain name change will help this type of endeavour. Shorter domain names do help brand recognition but still, if they write for morons, and in a populist manner, they will get morons and populists.

I guess, everyone strives to offer the best quality, but for that...well you need funds and after a certain level, you can't just add more working hours while you lack sufficient funds in order to achieve the desired quality. You have to buy the expertise.

If the thread starter would say, that bring your idea, I bring my domain plus certain level of investment (having skin in the game) then its worth thinking to partner...

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Ain't sure about CCN. They became full retard tabloid with close to zero crypto content.

I/we run a news site/blog/whatever in a small country as well, but if we would purely focus on crypto topics, we couldn't survive. So opening to mainstream topics is kinda necessary here (while also keeping our main narrative and even smuggling hints, sentences, paragraphs about cryptos in to the mainstream targeted contents). We are doing it since 2016, wanna expand and try us out internationally, even in other fields (adult industry + crypto - after seeing the domain name seriously made me thinking, I was thinking on something similar to livejasmin - but with crypto ) but we don't even dream about selling it one day for 100x or even 10x return. Media is an arduous process if you build things from scratch. Blogging is just blogging.

CCN made a conscious decision in 2018 to start pivoting towards mainstream and yeah, the biggest money in media is currently in tabloid and clickbait. That is what they do now. But considered as upstart among The Sun, Bild, Guardian etc. those are decades old prints. I am in doubt if their domain name change will help this type of endeavour. Shorter domain names do help brand recognition but still, if they write for morons, and in a populist manner, they will get morons and populists.

I guess, everyone strives to offer the best quality, but for that...well you need funds and after a certain level, you can't just add more working hours while you lack sufficient funds in order to achieve the desired quality. You have to buy the expertise.

If the thread starter would say, that bring your idea, I bring my domain plus certain level of investment (having skin in the game) then its worth thinking to partner...

What a thoughtful comment.  You clearly understand quite a bit about the crypto media space and the media space in general.

Yeah the big crypto information platforms can focus on crypto-only, but it's tougher for everyone else, and you're right, CCN pivoted hugely towards mainstream content.

There's certainly an opportunity for a platform that combines crypto with cams or even crypto with escorts.  In many countries it's legal and tolerated in many more.  Just going with cams, it's a really obvious opportunity which no doubt projects are working on right now, but still the op is there.

The way I see it the real opportunity in the crypto space isn't setting up one platform or one blog/news site, but working to connect a group of crypto site owners to work together.  It's much easier to build platforms faster if you can already use the traffic from other platforms - building exposure is easier and quicker, expansion is faster.  Everyone in the group makes more and becomes more successful than they would individually.  That's what I'd really like to work towards.

For every one person that is trying to set up good businesses in the crypto space there are 100 people who just want to make some fast cash however they can without any kind of effort, it's the worst thing about the crypto industry.

Drop me a message if you're interested in discussing a bit more.. would be interested to see your blog/news site that you're trying to go international with, maybe we can collab some how.

[Balaxi]

"For every one person that is trying to set up good businesses in the crypto space there are 100 people who just want to make some fast cash however they can without any kind of effort, it's the worst thing about the crypto industry."

It is a zero sum game, so I am not sure how they wanna make fast cash, but yeah fully agree. Always the gamblers, mavericks, risk takers who adopt first a new technology. I guess it takes some time until the Joe is boarding.

Sure, I'll ping you.

[TedMosby]

I expect to see more ideas here.
Hmm, this is my ideas.
coindiplomas.com
foster care program with a focus on helping children to get a better education.
target: third world country.