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August 19, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
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Not only you, do find it difficult to win when playing poker, I also experience the same thing. So from that I continued to study various kinds
poker strategy, but until now have not found the right strategy. And I thank all the members of this forum who have willing to share experiences
and strategy of poker games. At least I can begin to understand how to determine good and effective strategy can be win in poker games.
well I also sometimes have no luck when gambling using poker I often lose and the cards I have often don't make sense so I prefer not to gamble poker but do other gambling such as monopoly which at fortunejack in my opinion is still easy to get a profit.

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I tried to play poker back then but I have no luck to win and that experience saddens me. I tried to search out for what tips and tricks that I can use when playing but still I can't manage to win and I think playing poker is not for me that's why I switched to different games online. When you win on poker games is in it overwhelming and satisfying? And how much is the biggest price you can win?
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August 20, 2020, 05:36:25 AM
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I tried to play poker back then but I have no luck to win and that experience saddens me. I tried to search out for what tips and tricks that I can use when playing but still I can't manage to win and I think playing poker is not for me that's why I switched to different games online. When you win on poker games is in it overwhelming and satisfying? And how much is the biggest price you can win?

Every poker games has different strategy that you can use it depends on the games you want to play and there is also a  poker game that will only base on your luck. So you need to know where in those two are you playing and if the strategy you know will work there.


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August 20, 2020, 06:06:40 AM
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I don't know if there is a specific strategy to win in this game, you have a chance to win depend on the card that you get and how dare you are when you bet. Like other people say above, gambling is not depend on your strategy, your strategy just have 30% to win the game and the rest is your luck. You may need to play another game like sportbet or dice gambling, I think that's more fun then it especially on sportbet that you can make an analyst every bet you start.
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August 20, 2020, 08:26:27 AM
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However, I prefer to talk about online poker, as it provides more opportunities to play, and some poker rooms are discussed in this thread.
In online poker, mathematics is important to you, such unstable factors as facial expressions and behavior are absent, which somewhat simplifies the task of reading hands.
I must agree, but the mathematics on this field is hard since it will be a wild guess for you, 1/52 chances of getting the card you want and you can't just stick with wishful thinking that you're going to  it in the card draw. It is easier to play poker in online than offline.


Probably easier for the quietness & focus, but may not be the best place to gather important information while playing with your opponents.
 I think if you could just mute the distractions(esp sound) in physical world, you could gather alot in the surrounding and from your opponent.
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August 20, 2020, 08:26:38 AM
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Not only you, do find it difficult to win when playing poker, I also experience the same thing. So from that I continued to study various kinds
poker strategy, but until now have not found the right strategy. And I thank all the members of this forum who have willing to share experiences
and strategy of poker games. At least I can begin to understand how to determine good and effective strategy can be win in poker games.

There are zillion strategies, each for a different situation, but I can tell you about one that works for me personally. If you flopped two pair, call anything waiting for full house to come out, and if there's still no full house after the river card, bluff the hell out of it.

It is a modified version of Daniel Negreanu's strategy, only he suggests to apply it also when waiting for a straight or flush, which doesn't work for me when I have a straight or flush draw. Villains figure it out most of the time, somehow. Smiley

Try it. GL!

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August 20, 2020, 08:49:50 AM
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There are zillion strategies, each for a different situation, but I can tell you about one that works for me personally. If you flopped two pair, call anything waiting for full house to come out, and if there's still no full house after the river card, bluff the hell out of it.

this is going straight into my notes on you. Tongue

It is a modified version of Daniel Negreanu's strategy, only he suggests to apply it also when waiting for a straight or flush, which doesn't work for me when I have a straight or flush draw.

that old school DN play doesn't pay off like it used to IMO. lots of people call it light these days.

the best strategy is probably one that can't be pinned down---consistently switching up your style/range, especially based on table dynamic.

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There are zillion strategies, each for a different situation, but I can tell you about one that works for me personally. If you flopped two pair, call anything waiting for full house to come out, and if there's still no full house after the river card, bluff the hell out of it.

this is going straight into my notes on you. Tongue

It is a modified version of Daniel Negreanu's strategy, only he suggests to apply it also when waiting for a straight or flush, which doesn't work for me when I have a straight or flush draw.

that old school DN play doesn't pay off like it used to IMO. lots of people call it light these days.

the best strategy is probably one that can't be pinned down---consistently switching up your style/range, especially based on table dynamic.

I can agree with you. For me there is a big difference when playing online or in real life. I often find that online players take much higher risks and bluff a lot a more than in real life.
For me bluffing online doesn't work, so I most of the times play only with good starting cards (above 10) and don't take too many risks.



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August 21, 2020, 10:10:51 AM
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There are zillion strategies, each for a different situation, but I can tell you about one that works for me personally. If you flopped two pair, call anything waiting for full house to come out, and if there's still no full house after the river card, bluff the hell out of it.

this is going straight into my notes on you. Tongue


Maybe, just, maybe, that's exactly what I was counting on when making that post?  Wink Grin

It is a modified version of Daniel Negreanu's strategy, only he suggests to apply it also when waiting for a straight or flush, which doesn't work for me when I have a straight or flush draw.

that old school DN play doesn't pay off like it used to IMO. lots of people call it light these days.

the best strategy is probably one that can't be pinned down---consistently switching up your style/range, especially based on table dynamic.

Absolutely agree with you on this one. That's why I'm watching the newest high stake games, and trying to avoid the old ones, however attractive they look. Poker evolves all the time, and what could be a great strategy 5 years ago, can be considered a weak one today.

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I can agree with you. For me there is a big difference when playing online or in real life. I often find that online players take much higher risks and bluff a lot a more than in real life.


If you watch an online tournament with 100+ participants till the final table, you see that there are no those bluffers sitting there. Even though they take top places in the  beginning, most of them are out in the first hour.
 
For me bluffing online doesn't work, so I most of the times play only with good starting cards (above 10) and don't take too many risks.

That's how I'm trying to play too. But I know one thing for sure: you can't play poker without bluffing occasionally. Wink

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August 21, 2020, 05:38:51 PM
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In playing poker you need to focus, you should wait for your good hands. Strategies is somewhat 40% in poker and 60% will be compose of luck.

I've been a poker player for almost 3 years already and I've been playing almost everyday. So here are the best experience that I learned in playing poker.
Be patient, don't play if you are in anger, read the movement of your enemy and lastly don't be greedy. It's better to lost 1/4 of your tokens rather than losing it all
so you should always put it in your mind.
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I've been a poker player for almost 3 years already and I've been playing almost everyday. So here are the best experience that I learned in playing poker.
Be patient, don't play if you are in anger, read the movement of your enemy and lastly don't be greedy. It's better to lost 1/4 of your tokens rather than losing it all
so you should always put it in your mind.

Too obvious advises from a man who played everyday for 3 years, don't you think the same, eh?  Smiley

I have a better one: "If you don't see fish on table, that means that fish is you" (c) Fargo  Cheesy

And god damn, this is true due to my experience

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August 22, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
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Things like this can be done fairly easily with headphones or earplugs. You can also wear a hood and sunglasses to reduce your vision. But these are secondary factors.
If you have a problem with your strategy itself, no squelch will help you out of your situation.

At the moment I would recommend focusing on online poker rather than physical games. We don't know how long this pandemic will really last and if it's going to be around next year. Better to focus on poker that you can play from home.

At the moment there are the 2020 World Series Of Poker Online tournaments where you can see the best players compete against each other. If you want to improve your game I would recommend either watch the official stream (https://www.wsop.com/live/) or one of the pro's stream. Watching the best of the world play can be a good learning experience.
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August 22, 2020, 09:45:34 AM
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In playing poker you need to focus, you should wait for your good hands. Strategies is somewhat 40% in poker and 60% will be compose of luck.
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Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.

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August 22, 2020, 05:06:21 PM
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I've been a poker player for almost 3 years already and I've been playing almost everyday. So here are the best experience that I learned in playing poker.
Be patient, don't play if you are in anger, read the movement of your enemy and lastly don't be greedy. It's better to lost 1/4 of your tokens rather than losing it all
so you should always put it in your mind.

Indeed. Most losses on poker games are because lack of composure and good mentality on the game.
There's lot of good players on pokers that we a player might encounter. Patience and good composure will be one of the key to win poker.. Don't belittle the opponents and don't feel tiny from them. Calm, enjoy the game , and win or learn.
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August 22, 2020, 09:17:10 PM
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In playing poker you need to focus, you should wait for your good hands.

some of the best players are quite loose aggressive (LAG) and are not picky in their hand selection. they can succeed this way because they know how to leverage their table position, and because they are good at reading their opponents---sensing when they can bluff them off a hand.

Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.

especially in a tournament. tournaments (especially ones with a large field) are much higher variance than cash games. that's why cash game players often hate tourneys---they take hours to finish a single one, and it takes hundreds or thousands to generate a good sample of your performance.

even after 3 bitcointalk series, i don't think we have the greatest idea of who the best players are yet. variance is a bitch, and it takes a big sample to even out.

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some of the best players are quite loose aggressive (LAG) and are not picky in their hand selection. they can succeed this way because they know how to leverage their table position, and because they are good at reading their opponents---sensing when they can bluff them off a hand.


Reading opponents in online poker is fairly hard in my opinion. If you play Zoom, the old rush fast paced mode from fulltilt or have 4-6 tables of the same time. The reaction time has to be very quick. Writing notes on other players definitely helps in a though decision. But overall you should really stick to a fixed strategy to just make it simpler for yourself. Once you move up in the tables the number of players will be less and you see more of the time the same players. What you also see pros doing on TV is making "bad moves" - like playing to aggressive - because they know everyone can see their starting hands on TV and they want to remain unpredictable for their opponents. If you only play online with a lot of different people - I wouldn't recommend such plays for beginners.
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some of the best players are quite loose aggressive (LAG) and are not picky in their hand selection. they can succeed this way because they know how to leverage their table position, and because they are good at reading their opponents---sensing when they can bluff them off a hand.
Reading opponents in online poker is fairly hard in my opinion. If you play Zoom, the old rush fast paced mode from fulltilt or have 4-6 tables of the same time. The reaction time has to be very quick. Writing notes on other players definitely helps in a though decision. But overall you should really stick to a fixed strategy to just make it simpler for yourself.

zoom/rush is a really specific type of game. rush SNGs used to be my bread and butter in the pre-UIGEA days, so i absolutely know what you mean. and in that context, i agree to some extent. normal tourneys or cash games play quite a bit differently, and you can spend many, many orbits playing the same players, so it really pays off to observe your opponents---note preflop play %, whether they chase/bet draws, show down bluffs, etc.

even in zoom/rush, hand reading is still relevant. you still need to determine your opponents' ranges on each hand and act accordingly. a lot of players are playing an ABC game and will play hands like top pair and flush draws in typical, readable ways.

What you also see pros doing on TV is making "bad moves" - like playing to aggressive - because they know everyone can see their starting hands on TV and they want to remain unpredictable for their opponents. If you only play online with a lot of different people - I wouldn't recommend such plays for beginners.

it's not just about the TV factor. it's also because at higher stakes and skill levels, one needs to remain unpredictable. if you play a very ABC game, good players will recognize it and bluff you off key spots.

i agree---not necessarily for beginners, but neither are higher stakes.

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August 23, 2020, 08:31:32 PM
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Things like this can be done fairly easily with headphones or earplugs. You can also wear a hood and sunglasses to reduce your vision. But these are secondary factors.
If you have a problem with your strategy itself, no squelch will help you out of your situation.

At the moment I would recommend focusing on online poker rather than physical games. We don't know how long this pandemic will really last and if it's going to be around next year. Better to focus on poker that you can play from home.

At the moment there are the 2020 World Series Of Poker Online tournaments where you can see the best players compete against each other. If you want to improve your game I would recommend either watch the official stream (https://www.wsop.com/live/) or one of the pro's stream. Watching the best of the world play can be a good learning experience.


Yes, it's probably best to concentrate on online poker streaks right now. By the way, one of these series is currently taking place at party poker.

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August 23, 2020, 09:56:52 PM
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Well, I remember before when I was exploring my self to play poker. There is not strategy because getting a card in your hand is that an odds is what on based on luck. So, perhaps there is no strategy on it while playing poker, --it is a matter of skills when you start playing. I suggest you install a poker app offline in your cellphone and play or study what is a good handcard. Op stating on was he wrote was right.









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August 24, 2020, 03:07:54 PM
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Being a poker fan, I would love to think that "poker is game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck", as they say, but, actually, I agree with you. If you are a skillful poker player, you will beat an unskillful one in the long run(when hundreds, or, rather, thousands hands played), but you can never be sure of your victory in a particular game, or even in a tournament.

especially in a tournament. tournaments (especially ones with a large field) are much higher variance than cash games. that's why cash game players often hate tourneys---they take hours to finish a single one, and it takes hundreds or thousands to generate a good sample of your performance.
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Idk, maybe you and I play cash games differently. I, for one, almost always quit immediately after a good win, but you can't quit a tournament when you are on the 1st place ... well, you can, technically, but you have zero chances of finishing on the 1st place then, and, depending on the number of players left, your chances of finishing ITM are slim. I think that luck plays bigger role in cash games than in tournaments, but, tbh, I rarely play cash games, so I can wrong here.


even after 3 bitcointalk series, i don't think we have the greatest idea of who the best players are yet. variance is a bitch, and it takes a big sample to even out.

I absolutely agree with this. Maybe after a thousand of tournaments we would have an idea, but 24(3X8) is way too little for that.

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