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August 30, 2020, 06:36:28 PM
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We are now seeing the negative impact that the humanities have brought up directly into the nature where we supposedly getting all of our needs for the daily basis. We have totally become abusive on our natural resources and as a result is the showcasing of how those actions is now affecting our surroundings. The advancement of people's lives have brought up making our daily lives got easier but at the same time is having a negative effect on the nature. We must come up into a better and long lasting solution that will resolve the problem we have right now before it gone even worst like famine which this thread have been discussing.

We must used up the advancement to build up greater solutions because if we will not do such, we will just remain on the influence of technology but the nature would be at stake. The climate change is literally affecting us all most specially the nature for the normal cycle of how weather and climate have changed making the nature have a difficulty to adjust and causing the natural phenomenon to happen destructing natural resources.
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August 30, 2020, 06:50:09 PM
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climate change is a hoax. its not true. if they were really concern about it those countries promoting it should be the be first to have reduced their gas emission but look how much they produced. US and China are the top ones there. and you know why? they know its not true. countries who believe are the ones going to have a slow economy and will not industrialized in the end.

the people in veitnam, cambodia and thailand are eating insects which is a great source of protein. it reproduce faster up to 1000x compare to raising hogs and chickens which is why they do have cricket farms there. i dont think they'd experience famine.  Grin









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August 30, 2020, 06:57:48 PM
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The problem of global warming remains as acute and urgent as before, despite the fact that now governments are more concerned about the fight against the pandemic, which has made countries unprepared for new (old) threats. After all, it is global warming that affects the climate, which will lead to drought, flooding, crop failure and hurricanes. It is scary to imagine where this will lead, but for poor countries it will be a disaster at all.
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August 30, 2020, 08:04:49 PM
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climate change is a hoax. its not true. if they were really concern about it those countries promoting it should be the be first to have reduced their gas emission but look how much they produced. US and China are the top ones there. and you know why? they know its not true. countries who believe are the ones going to have a slow economy and will not industrialized in the end.
Is there any organization that protests for having an anti-climate change group lol. I never knew that there is a person like you who does not believe in climate change. Coz we are literally experiencing it, the nature adjusted itself, our summer is rainy and our rainy days are sunny, just think why it is happening. Even the school year in our country has been adjusted due to this phenomena and you don't believe in climate change? Have you seen the ice caps in northern regions slowly melting? Ever know that there is a small country that will sink in 2 to 3 years from now? Climate change is real mate.

the people in veitnam, cambodia and thailand are eating insects which is a great source of protein. it reproduce faster up to 1000x compare to raising hogs and chickens which is why they do have cricket farms there. i dont think they'd experience famine.  Grin
Famine is far from happening, we got a massive food production globally, we haven't seen any signs of famine yet due to the ongoing crisis.

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August 31, 2020, 09:29:18 AM
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Those aren't MREs though.
Thanks for bringing this up - I apparently always mistaked one for another. I just found this article and it certainly is an interesting comparison.

There are places that sell 1 year of food packs for a fortune that are dehydrated/frozen, but they rather conveniently reduce your meals to one a day so by the end of that year you'd be the size of a toothpick. And dead.

As far as I know honey is the one and only eternally lasting source of energy.
Why do you think the canned food (or dehydrated/frozen one) isn't enough to keep you alive?

Looking over some prices over here in Romania, an NRG-5 MRE pack for one day (2,300 kcal) is worth about 38-45 RON (so let's say about $10) while from only one 11 RON ($2.70) can of food you can get 1,000 kcal already, which means you can get 4,000 kcal for only 44 RON ($10.80).

But again, the big negative side is storage space and probably expiration date as well, unless you freeze that stuff. MREs are, I imagine, waay smaller than a few kgs of canned food. The point I was trying to make is, one can basically get canned stuff for almost half the price of MREs while also hitting the necessary daily calorie count if budget really is an issue.
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August 31, 2020, 09:55:22 AM
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This is one of the consequences of climate change. Sad


Carbon dioxide is the life breath of plants and trees, so any increase should improve agriculture.
The decrease in farming output is caused by monoculture farming, bank repossessions of farmland and other financial penalties. and the changes in the use of arable land.

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August 31, 2020, 10:56:22 AM
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Crazy world! First problems during the pandemic was when toilet paper was out and people started stock piling soap and toilet paper at home like crazy. It makes sense that food will be the main issue during the second and third wave of corona. Better to prepare ourselfs already and building up stockpiles. This will be so sad once people start selling a bag of apples for 100$. We should try to become self suficient again as a nation and not rely on imports all around the world.

Famine is not only caused by climate change and drought, but also by the greed of some people who exploit all crises, even humanitarian crises. For example, some vegetables and fruits here in my country have risen unreasonably due to the epidemic, such as lemons, apples, and other important materials that people think are necessary to prevent the virus and increase the body's immunity, and they were previously very cheap because they are available in abundance here.
Food storage is not the solution because firstly it costs a lot of money and secondly there are types of foods that cannot be stored for a long time. I hope that humanity can find solutions. The situation will get worse than that, and for me I am optimistic that there will be solutions soon, God willing.

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August 31, 2020, 11:06:05 AM
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Carbon dioxide is the life breath of plants and trees, so any increase should improve agriculture.
The decrease in farming output is caused by monoculture farming, bank repossessions of farmland and other financial penalties. and the changes in the use of arable land.

An increase in the Carbon di Oxide concentration may not translate to any sizable gains in the farm output. On the other hand, global warming may result in droughts, climate variations, increase in water loss due to evaporation, desertification.etc. Overall, these factors may nullify any positive impact that comes from the increase in Carbon di Oxide concentration.
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August 31, 2020, 12:06:07 PM
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The "golden billion" living in the richest countries of the world is already wasting plenty of food.Maybe the reduced agricultural production will simply lower the amounts of food that is thrown away.
I highly doubt that famine will reach the developed countries.The main problem will still be in the underdeveloped countries of the third world.
Climate change can't be reversed so we will have to adapt,in order to survive.
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August 31, 2020, 12:16:29 PM
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The concern in developed countries is not famine, but ultra-processed foods, and synthetic creations.

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August 31, 2020, 12:57:26 PM
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Carbon dioxide is the life breath of plants and trees, so any increase should improve agriculture.
The decrease in farming output is caused by monoculture farming, bank repossessions of farmland and other financial penalties. and the changes in the use of arable land.

An increase in the Carbon di Oxide concentration may not translate to any sizable gains in the farm output. On the other hand, global warming may result in droughts, climate variations, increase in water loss due to evaporation, desertification.etc. Overall, these factors may nullify any positive impact that comes from the increase in Carbon di Oxide concentration.

Modern life and its reality is what we are feeling today and that is driving towards causing more harm than it is doing good.

We can talk about famine when there are no planting or less of it.

As irrigation has taken over natural way of tilling the soil for produce but with its own effect.

Ozone depletion and global warming etc are all human cause to move away from nature in wanting to better their living.
Can we say these are even the major causes of numerous frequent death in this time in the societies compared to the bible days.
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August 31, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
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Let us not hope for that worst thing of the famine to come up right into this situation for we are still dealing with a deadly virus. But the reality will never deny that there could be a possibility for that event to make happen all due because the negative effects that human actions are now coming out and as a result the nature is now suffering which can also do affect not just us humans but also the animals that depends on natural resources. No wonder why that thing could happen because the effect of climate change brings a directly negative effect on the nature bringing natural disasters to occur and other related scenarios affecting our surroundings.

We are now seeing how our actions can have a short to long term effect that might get worst if we will not work on planning and executing better solutions to somehow lessen the effect of the climate change.


Carbon dioxide is the life breath of plants and trees, so any increase should improve agriculture.
The decrease in farming output is caused by monoculture farming, bank repossessions of farmland and other financial penalties. and the changes in the use of arable land.

Too much carbon dioxide concentration on the atmosphere is still not a big help for it can still be deadly because the cycle on the ecosystem must be at a right balance to work things out. It is indeed that farming works have been lessen due to malpractices brought by humans and banks are doing repossession of those hectares of land for the sake of building empires and villages wherein the balance in nature is being at stake and taken for granted.

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August 31, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
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This lays out just some of the issues we face today.  We are dealing with a number of issues from all sorts of directions currently, and sadly many people are burring their head in the sand.  Global warming is a real thing. Climate change is a real thing.  If it's backed by science we should listen.  The current coronavirus pandemic we are going through is only going to make this famine worse.  We are going to have millions and millions more people becoming jobless/homeless.  The outlooks is bleak right now to say the least. In my opinion anyhow.

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August 31, 2020, 02:16:01 PM
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It was started already in many places. It is quite to see and heard in the news that many families never eat foods. It is such a thing that this pandemic gets worsen day by day and changes a lot. I'd never thought that we've liked this, we all are unprepared, and the sad thing is that some of us have been in starving especially in the poor countries...It has to say that we are getting back from the start, it is market reset or something we call like that. But it is a little bit unfair seeing those developing countries try to take advantage of the situation, they use this pandemic for making money and those who have less fortunate people will be suffered most while those rich people becoming richer.

But all of these problems and issues, we have also learned a lot of things and one thing is that, to know how to be prepared for the future. 



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August 31, 2020, 02:35:43 PM
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Your list of links are too long and people might not click them all so it was really better to provide brief summaries from all of them.

Famine was really expected since the effect of pandemics were really bad and it surely affected the Agricultural sector of most countries. Without the movement of Local Government Units surrounding these farms and other agricultural factors that help produce our food, famine will be the outcome. Governments should focus their help in boosting up what gives us our daily needs since food and water is important to everybody.

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August 31, 2020, 02:45:24 PM
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If famine happens, it would be best to help one another and strive to resolve the problem together instead of battling for survival. It shouldn't be that way. 

This is what happens when people started valuing money more than our environment. This is inevitable when it's all about the industries, manufacturing, and other environmental threats that are offered for the sake of money. As for the recent happenings, like the fire in Australia, heatwaves in Greenland, Flooding in Africa, etc. These effects have been caused by climate change and it's worsening.

For us people, what we could do is reduce waste or organize your waste in order for easier recycling. Convert to renewable energy resources for a brighter future. Come on, what else can we do with it?

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August 31, 2020, 03:58:14 PM
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The concern in developed countries is not famine, but ultra-processed foods, and synthetic creations.

Take for example China, every food right now is processed and even synthetic because of the growing population and even their government try to control it, gonna be hurt to curb. Like this plastic rice:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/plastic-rice-from-china/

If not the virus, then hunger might kill majority of the world's population.
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August 31, 2020, 04:43:12 PM
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Human civilization that is increasingly advanced seems to have no positive impact on nature, where disasters often occur without our realizing that the causes are our own. I hope that it will get better soon and there will not be a famine that hits us all.

I think one of the most humane solutions to prevent a cancer ridden body from dying is to get the cancer cells to stop behaving abnormally and gradually killing the whole body. Unfortunately, many of the cells still do not believe or understand that they are massively contributing to the death of the body. They continue to replicate, grow and live abnormally.
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August 31, 2020, 05:10:58 PM
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Famine is...coming? Where are you from? Right now there are 7 nations in the world that is having trouble with food, either because of political reasons or because of natural disaster reasons, we are already there and you think that it is just starting up or it is not even started but "will" start? Obviously it is not a global pandemic type of world changing situation right now because only handful of nations have it right now, but I can tell you that with the climate change and a lot more places being under water soon and rest being very dry, even clean water will be a luxury one day unless we do something about it.

Obviously there are some people who still deny the scientifically proven facts, but we can't just let the earth get destroyed because of idiots.

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August 31, 2020, 05:26:51 PM
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climate change is a hoax. its not true. if they were really concern about it those countries promoting it should be the be first to have reduced their gas emission but look how much they produced. US and China are the top ones there. and you know why? they know its not true. countries who believe are the ones going to have a slow economy and will not industrialized in the end.
Is there any organization that protests for having an anti-climate change group lol. I never knew that there is a person like you who does not believe in climate change. Coz we are literally experiencing it, the nature adjusted itself, our summer is rainy and our rainy days are sunny, just think why it is happening. Even the school year in our country has been adjusted due to this phenomena and you don't believe in climate change? Have you seen the ice caps in northern regions slowly melting? Ever know that there is a small country that will sink in 2 to 3 years from now? Climate change is real mate.

i'm a conspiracy theorist as they call me being a flat earth believer  Grin but all the people who didn't believe me now look like this:



the ice caps once had melted in the past that is why there are ancient antarctica maps which there are actually inhabitants of that region back when it wasn't full of ice.  this climate change is just the natural cycle of earth.  that part of earth right now isn't reached by sunlight.

if china and US bomb send nukes to each other, the clouds will darken and all sun will not touch the earth surface oceans gonna crystallize like the ones in the antartica.  Grin









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