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September 06, 2020, 11:42:54 PM
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Replace casino with exchange, then think again whether it's "right way of mixing" since both of them collect your information.
Yes, I would never use a gambling service to mix my own coins. There are far better mixing alternatives out there to use.
Mixers, Wasabi, Samourai, Joinmarket: 2double0, do a great deal of research on the matter.  Cool
Though it's given that casinos also collect information but they don't collect as much information the exchange are requiring us for their KYC. For the gambling sites I have been using, an email address would already be enough and I'm good to go, names and other information, we can put a different name as they don't require an ID or any document for identity verification, so that's what OP is trying to convey, an anonymous gambling is different from exchanges requirement as most of them are regulated.


Mixers, Wasabi, Samourai, Joinmarket: 2double0, do a great deal of research on the matter.  Cool

I'm pretty sure he knows about mixers, but what he is giving is just another way of mixing coins, in his own perception.

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September 07, 2020, 06:50:45 AM
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Replace casino with exchange, then think again whether it's "right way of mixing" since both of them collect your information.
Yes, I would never use a gambling service to mix my own coins. There are far better mixing alternatives out there to use.
Mixers, Wasabi, Samourai, Joinmarket: 2double0, do a great deal of research on the matter.  Cool

Add into the equation that many many gambling sites already have their wallets identified by these blockchain analysis companies, and also some exchanges already identified them, you don't want to mix with gambling sites unless you do want your coins tagged as gambling and people knowing YOU are a gambler;)

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September 07, 2020, 08:03:06 AM
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but what he is giving is just another way of mixing coins, in his own perception.
And we are correctly pointing out what that perception is flawed.

Even although some gambling sites don't collect full KYC as you say, they still keep a complete log of all deposits and all withdrawals, all IP addresses, browser fingerprints, etc. They might not be able to link your coins to your real name, but they can very easily link your deposits to your withdrawals, and link all of that to your IP address and browser fingerprint. In most cases this would be enough for an attacker to de-anonymize you through other means, since most people do not use Tor, have very unique fingerprints, and leave traces of their activity and identity all over the internet.

Even without going through the gambling site at all, since as slaman29 says the vast majority of gambling sites are well known to blockchain analysis companies, watching deposits and withdrawals over a period of time and simply matching timestamps and amounts may even be enough to link your deposits and withdrawals.

I would say that not only is using a gambling site in this way not making your privacy any better, but in many cases it is actively making it worse.
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September 07, 2020, 01:10:42 PM
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I would say that not only is using a gambling site in this way not making your privacy any better, but in many cases it is actively making it worse.
That's exactly correct perspective insight. Because if you will use a custodial wallet it might your Bitcoin will freeze or hold or much worst if your account will be blocked by them. This is a very common case in my country because most of us as crypto holders have a custodial Bitcoin wallet called (Coins.ph), other's didn't know that if you will depositing Bitcoin from a gambling company to this wallet the result might be blocked your account.

Never use gambling sites, exchange sites of mixing your Bitcoin if the purpose is your privacy. It is irrelevant to the Bitcoin mixer services that you can completely hide and protect your privacy. Fueling a small amount of fee just to cover your identity and use legitimate mixers will have a good result and the right way of mixing.

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September 07, 2020, 02:07:55 PM
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but what he is giving is just another way of mixing coins, in his own perception.
And we are correctly pointing out what that perception is flawed.

Even although some gambling sites don't collect full KYC as you say, they still keep a complete log of all deposits and all withdrawals, all IP addresses, browser fingerprints, etc. They might not be able to link your coins to your real name, but they can very easily link your deposits to your withdrawals, and link all of that to your IP address and browser fingerprint. In most cases this would be enough for an attacker to de-anonymize you through other means, since most people do not use Tor, have very unique fingerprints, and leave traces of their activity and identity all over the internet.

Even without going through the gambling site at all, since as slaman29 says the vast majority of gambling sites are well known to blockchain analysis companies, watching deposits and withdrawals over a period of time and simply matching timestamps and amounts may even be enough to link your deposits and withdrawals.

I would say that not only is using a gambling site in this way not making your privacy any better, but in many cases it is actively making it worse.
Ditto! That's the way I see it too. Given the very low security literacy of most bitcoin (and internet) users I would never suggest a gambling site (or an exchange) to be used as a mixer. That is simply very stupid.
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September 09, 2020, 06:25:41 AM
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Bad idea mate.
Instead safely scramble your transactions route .. you are in high risk of losing money while playing those what so called 'small amount' , gambling never fails to suck your money no matter what , this is just a method that highly recommended to avoid not just because of it was not anonymous at all. Clearly you are risking it all.

I've tried this method back in the days where i just get into crypto and i believe everyone else who have the same experience as me would agree with this point of view. You are not mixing it , you are losing it in no time.
Rookie way to hide your transactions, this method work only to delay the tracking .. you'll get uncover sooner or later no matter how high the gambling site has a privacy policy on how they can't and won't reveal its users information.

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