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September 01, 2020, 02:45:44 PM
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If you want to tags someone, do it in a neutral color, if you are sure of something, then red. Because if some user complains about you that you wrote to him unreasonably in the trust and you could prove it, you yourself can be painted for trust abuse. Undecided
It should be like that...! So, there are no pros & cons.

Actually what: @bubbalex is doing, is correct, based on his suspicions, towards: @world1212 and @ashraf100786, committing fraud in the campaign he manages.
Only, @bubbalex shows no evidence here, Directly to Sheets.

Supposing @bubbalex, show evidence on a famous Alt topic or make your own thread about a cheating Alt, it's not like this is the case, everyone sees the evidence.



OP, your problem is resolved, lock the topic and have fun, before things get complicated.

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September 01, 2020, 02:52:39 PM
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I removed, but ... your explanation that you give someone negative tags for yourself, not being sure that this user is who you think he is, may be regarded by someone as a trust abuse. Still, the trust system was not invented for personal experiments, but for the real reflection of the behavior and actions of a particular user.
Totally agree--and I gave bubbalex merits only because he made a solid post that contained more honesty than I would expect from the typical bitcointalk member if they found themselves in the same situation.

This rotating DT system, man....I don't know if it's such a good idea.  It seems like it's gotten to the point where the concept of being trusted by default has no meaning anymore.  I'm hoping Theymos eventually sees this and undoes some of what he's done to the DT system.

That's why I don't want to be in DT, I don't have enough time and knowledge to be DT member now, I'm still learning. Thank you.
No offense intended to you, but you shouldn't be on DT right now.

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September 01, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
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I didn't check anything else than this https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0x72F67Db9A7793252Bad63b22E37aC5c1E22F07BB. There are few transactions from ashraf786100 to OP and vice versa (0xeac03070d0092c2d4315992aa4f949894bc91487 is ashraf786100's addy, posted 2 years ago:

Proof of joined post
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ETH wallet address: 0xeAc03070D0092c2d4315992aA4f949894Bc91487

@bubbalex, how did you connect accounts?

Would theymos blacklist you manually from DT? I never heard anyone trying to do that.
He can blacklist users from DT1.
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September 01, 2020, 03:53:39 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2020, 05:07:04 PM by bubbalex
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I didn't check anything else than this https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0x72F67Db9A7793252Bad63b22E37aC5c1E22F07BB. There are few transactions from ashraf786100 to OP and vice versa (0xeac03070d0092c2d4315992aa4f949894bc91487 is ashraf786100's addy, posted 2 years ago:

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@bubbalex, how did you connect accounts?

Would theymos blacklist you manually from DT? I never heard anyone trying to do that.
He can blacklist users from DT1.
I connected them though bitcointalk activity, I can't remember this exact case, but most of the time - it's same date of the registration on forum, same date of the registration in campaign/spreadsheet, same time submitting reports, the reports are exactly the same (yes, there is not a lot of ways to submit reports, but reports of different people are different a little), same social accounts/wallets, same campaigns.



They are using same accounts, violating bounty rules and violating forum rules via ban evasion.

5 Accounts: Banned shown in red


1. world1212
2. kiranshehzadi
3. ashraf100786
4. ashraf786100
5. zainr7073

Proof:

Campaign : Facebook
Facebook Profile Link: https://www.facebook.com/kiranshehzadi786

https://archive.is/wip/iURtn

Bitcointalk Username: kiranshehzadi
Telegram airdrop: @kiranshehzadi
Twitter airdrop: @Kiran35875038
Facebook airdrop: https://www.facebook.com/kiranshehzadi786

https://archive.is/wip/lJ7q6

Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk Username:kiranshehzadi
Telegram Username:@ashraf786100
Twitter Username:@batter1000
Facebook Profile Link:https://web.facebook.com/muhammad.ashraf.3304673

https://archive.is/wip/R4CMB

Post by: ashraf100786
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Proof of authentication
Bitcointalk name: ashraf100786
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1776447
Facebook url: https://web.facebook.com/muhammad.ashraf.3304673
Exchange email: muhammadashraf00525@gmail.com
User name: ashraf786100

https://archive.is/wip/54qNB

week no.  1
Forum username: ashraf786100
Twitter username:  @Ashraf786100
Cointalks username: ashraf786100

https://archive.is/wip/kOaKW

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: ashraf100786
Bitcointalk Profile : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1776447
Twitter profile:    https://twitter.com/batter1000
Join Campaign : Twitter ,Telegram
Telegram : @MuhammadFarooq6

https://archive.is/wip/O1ABX

Proof :
telegram : @Ashraf342

https://archive.is/wip/SjOUL

AUTHENTICATION POST
#JOIN
TELEGRAM
@username:@Ashraf342
TWITTER
Profile link: https://twitter.com/Ashraf786100
FACEBOOK
Profile link: https://web.facebook.com/muhammad.ashraf.3304673
REDDIT
https://https://www.reddit.com/user/ashraf786100

https://archive.is/wip/hvWr8

Related Addresses:
Code:
Username:@ashraf786100
Twitter Username:@batter1000
Facebook Profile Link:https://web.facebook.com/muhammad.ashraf.3304673
telegram : @Ashraf342

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September 01, 2020, 04:56:42 PM
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^ Small correction here, account kiranshehzadi is not banned.

So, OP registered account on April 11, 2020 and they used the same facebook profile for bounties as other accounts which are registered in 2017/18. They made little mistake here (https://archive.is/54qNB#selection-3695.11-3695.23):



It is obviously ban evasion so report them to moderator/send PM to global moderator/create topic in meta. Account is tagged for now.
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September 01, 2020, 06:30:41 PM
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This is getting ridiculous. In addition to the fact that cheaters violate Ban evasion, they also begin to defend their reputation.
Bubbalex, you are an experienced manager, and you can immediately see who is cheating and who is not. I agree that it takes a lot of time to check, but there is no other way. This is not the first time when, after another ban, cheaters begin to hysteria and blame everyone.

Submit the correct report to the moderator to end this comedy.

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September 01, 2020, 06:46:02 PM
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Thank you marlboroza, lovesmayfamilis, I've sent the report to the hilariousandco

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