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November 24, 2011, 05:20:24 PM
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I just tested it with IE8 (first time I used it lol), it works fine. The wiki also loads fine in Chrome, firefox, opera, opera mini, and android browser. I dont know what your problem is, but its your problem. Id hazard a guess its corrupted cache or some malware.

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November 24, 2011, 06:10:44 PM
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I agree with the robustness principle....
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....And what I say, is that if a software fail due to bad input, and the programmer forgot to implement error checking, is still the fault of whoever that provide the bad data, not the fault of the programmer or the software in question.

These two statements contradict each other. The purpose of the robustness principle, in terms of things that work on the internet, is that you pretend the network is a goddamn warzone. That means the blame lies on the receiving app that crashes, and it's programmer - because they should have expected users to do naughty, impolite things.

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About web development, it is in fact easy to do web pages that works in most browsers, including IE.
Validate your pages against HTML 3.2, no CSS and no JS, and your pages will work wonderfully in most browsers including old versions of IE like IE 4.0.

And there it is, full-retard. Everyone should just go back to lynx and Mosaic because one douchebag, one of all seven people on the planet who claims to be a programmer yet is still retarded enough to use MSIE, doesn't like it when his browser crashes on some mal-formed markup. Smiley

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The browser CRASH when visiting bitcoin wiki thats a unacceptable fault of the wiki! The wiki are sending something that causes the browser to CRASH, be it something in SSL handshake, be it something in HTML code, be it whatever. But please fix it!

For sites that care about their audience, it would be prudent for the webmaster to sort out what the issue is. That doesn't mean it's the webmaster's fault, make no mistake about it the blame lies entirely with your browser, but to maximize your audience you have to decide how much time is worth it supporting older versions of software. Bitcoin's target audience is, for the most part, IT security-conscious people, who normally wouldn't be caught dead using a version of MSIE that crashes on malformed input.

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November 24, 2011, 07:26:48 PM
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I run BitcoinStats.org and here are the browser statistics for this month:



Take a word from the wise and upgrade away from IE!

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November 24, 2011, 08:05:24 PM
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About web development, it is in fact easy to do web pages that works in most browsers, including IE.
Validate your pages against HTML 3.2, no CSS and no JS, and your pages will work wonderfully in most browsers including old versions of IE like IE 4.0.
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November 24, 2011, 08:50:16 PM
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Lol html 3.2

I have windows 3.1, why almost no software run on it??? This is madness! All broken programs!
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November 24, 2011, 09:21:53 PM
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We should launch a campaign for Microsoft Windows to support the IBM System/360.  Who's with me?

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November 24, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
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Man, seriously, I hope this isn't serious.

A browser should never crash. Websites are not trusted in general, and any crash is the browser's fault. Always. Even Silverlight, Java, JavaScript and Flash code should not be able to crash the browser even if this is the intention of the code running in them. Every exception is a security flaw, and any browser developer should be thankful to have it pointed out.

There is no reason to make any assumption on the conditions causing the crash. Since it's an error of Internet Explorer anyway, it might also be happening on a valid page.
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November 25, 2011, 01:55:26 AM
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I run BitcoinStats.org and here are the browser statistics for this month:



Take a word from the wise and upgrade away from IE!

That's interesting! Two people using BlackBerry. Barrack Obama and I wonder who's the other person.
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November 25, 2011, 02:03:58 AM
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ok it came back 100/100 your point?

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November 25, 2011, 02:07:05 AM
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For IE? More like Chrome or Safari...

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November 25, 2011, 02:09:02 AM
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you must have missed out on IE9 then ...

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November 25, 2011, 02:13:37 AM
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Deslok, out of curiosity, do you see shadows under the text in both of these renderings?

http://acid3.acidtests.org/
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November 25, 2011, 02:21:34 AM
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Deslok, out of curiosity, do you see shadows under the text in both of these renderings?

http://acid3.acidtests.org/
http://acid3.acidtests.org/reference.html


good catch netrin, well let me remove this utter rubish from every pc i come in contact then and replace it with something better like googles spyware

EDIT: full disclosure I have IE9 Chrome and FF on the system for checking cross compatibilty and because each one has it's own quirks.

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November 25, 2011, 02:34:58 AM
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Deslok, out of curiosity, do you see shadows under the text in both of these renderings?

good catch netrin, well let me remove this utter rubish from every pc i come in contact then and replace it with something better like googles spyware

I cheated. It was only because IE opened a tunnel to your video driver.

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November 25, 2011, 02:48:02 AM
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IE9 isn't that bad.  With IE9 Microsoft browser teams seems to have actually cared about standards compliance, security, and scripting performance.  Sadly I have no idea why then didn't do that for the last decade (IE6... grrr).  Of course the OP isn't using IE9, if he was there likely would be no issue.

To OP:
If a webpage crashes a browser any browser for any reason that is a flaw in the browser.  Period.
The browser should be designed to ASSUME that any scripts and markup are inherently insecure.

Think about it this way.  IF something in wiki is accidentally crashing IE then that can be exploited by someone with malicious intent.
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