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[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

A thread not moderated by SWC management for players to talk about playing on SWC.

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[scammed-by-nitro]

Thanks for creating this.

My deleted post again:

Just saw some interesting conversation in the chat.
Whats the deal with this EndTheFed guy?

He is promoting all the tournaments all the time, even pushing late reg . it makes no sense to promote late reg when you actually play the tournament because you want an overlay so you have to beat less players to win more money.

Also now he is even giving bubble protection. He promotes tournaments every 10-20 minutes via copy/paste and isnt even registered himself yet. Mostly he registers if there is an overlay at the end of late reg. 100% a house employee, otherwise all of this would not make any sense. Employees (which dont admit they are) should NOT be allowed to play.

https://imgur.com/a/w6XJ7ze

Another VERY strange thing happening at the moment.


Also the rest which just got deleted once again by swc:

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SWC just deleted this post twice but I will post it again as it is very concerning! If you delete it again I will post it again.

If you have issues with another player please email support. This is not the place to post personal issues or attacks regarding other players. Posts made solely for this purpose will be deleted.

Isn't ETF staff? They usually have green text and are always promoting tournaments and time left to register.

No. There are no staff members that are currently present in chat. When an official site representative is added they will be clearly marked as an employee and representative of SwC. Messages from any players in chat or made on any other venue are not official and they do not speak for SwC.

But, what about HigherHighs? They do not speak for SWC?
Also, at one point ETF had the same green text as HH.



Exactly. So he claims he has no affiliation but sometimes green text and promotes the shit out of every tournament and even offering the bubble cashback. Makes a lot of sense to say he is not speaking for swc, lol.

EDIT: he changed the colour, first is way brown, then GREEN and maybe he thought, "shit I exposed myself" and now its yellow. And still promoting like crazy but nooooo, no affiliation to swc.

https://ibb.co/zPS3TKW

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

This was a legitimate question. ETF was green text. You were just asking about them, not attacking them. Not sure why they deleted your post on it. Also, interesting that they said nobody in chat is part of SWC or speaks for them. HH proves that isn't true. just because they are a volunteer doesn't mean they aren't in a position of authority somewhat. HH also works on tournament setups and support issues so I feel like they do speak for seals...

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

But, what about HigherHighs? They do not speak for SWC?

 Also, at one point ETF had the same green text as HH.

No. We have attempted to make this as clear as possible. Higherhighs, nor any other player, represents or speaks for SwC. If they have given you that impression it was either a misinterpretation or a misrepresentation on their part. The only official messages from SwC will come from clearly identified SwC accounts.

There are a few players that have green chat text but it is not an indication of any official position or authority. There are also other players that chose a custom chat color when that option was available for a limited time. If they have not changed their color since that time it will remain. For this reason chat colors alone are not used as a method to signify anything. Official accounts will be clearly identified as such; for example, SwC_Support is an official account used by support in chat.

Higherhighs, along with any other player, is free to send in screenshots of chat that they feel violates the rules posted. The decisions regarding whether this will result in a mute is then made by SwC management.

As we do not currently have a chat moderator present there have been a number of players that have assisted with this, and with relaying player feedback. But as always we invite all players to directly give us that feedback or message if they choose.

If any player has made comments with the intention of representing themselves as a part of the SwC team we would ask you to email support with a screenshot because this is not true and would not be allowed.

So, I guess HH has been lying in the chat and they are not actually a moderator.... Or so SWC says....

[scammed-by-nitro]

SWC, HH and this other guy are straight up lying all the time.

Great representation.

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

SWC, HH and this other guy are straight up lying all the time.

Great representation.

This is mind-blowing! I would love to screenshot the SWC response and post it in the chat box when HH is on and see what they say about it. Maybe when my HH ban is up...

[AlexTrebbert]

my deleted post:



Just a player helping out. This is not financial advice provided by SWC.

[DarkDays]

Really sad to see such disappointing customer service from the SwC Poker. Not responding to valid questions and downright deleting them is a bit absurd and speaks to the amount of unprofessionalism these guys have developed recently. Which is a shame because I used to consider them as one of the top dogs in the industry.

I think if we raise our voice and create enough ruckus the higher management will hear us and correct these malpractices. I think this is mostly the lower management that is being so shady and weird.

I guess we'll wait for an official response, but SwC does seem to be going down the drain lately.

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

Really sad to see such disappointing customer service from the SwC Poker. Not responding to valid questions and downright deleting them is a bit absurd and speaks to the amount of unprofessionalism these guys have developed recently. Which is a shame because I used to consider them as one of the top dogs in the industry.

I think if we raise our voice and create enough ruckus the higher management will hear us and correct these malpractices. I think this is mostly the lower management that is being so shady and weird.

I guess we'll wait for an official response, but SwC does seem to be going down the drain lately.

No. We have attempted to make this as clear as possible. Higherhighs, nor any other player, represents or speaks for SwC. If they have given you that impression it was either a misinterpretation or a misrepresentation on their part. The only official messages from SwC will come from clearly identified SwC accounts.

From the viewpoint of most players, Higherhighs does represent SwC in chat. Higherhighs is implementing chat policy changes dictated by SwC.  Higherhighs is asking players about improvements to the site they would like to see. Higherhighs is making announcements for SwC. Higherhighs has a direct line of communication with SwC.  SwC's actions and inactions create a public perception and this matters. Just saying that "Higherhighs,nor any other player, represents or speaks for SwC" does not make it so.

They are only making things more confusing and negative with their answers that make no sense

[figmentofmyass]

subscribed, thanks for making this thread.

Whats the deal with this EndTheFed guy?

He is promoting all the tournaments all the time, even pushing late reg . it makes no sense to promote late reg when you actually play the tournament because you want an overlay so you have to beat less players to win more money.

Also now he is even giving bubble protection. He promotes tournaments every 10-20 minutes via copy/paste and isnt even registered himself yet. Mostly he registers if there is an overlay at the end of late reg. 100% a house employee, otherwise all of this would not make any sense. Employees (which dont admit they are) should NOT be allowed to play.

i'm fine with prop players if it keeps games going, but they need to be identified as SwC employees, absolutely.

SwC does seem to be going down the drain lately.

i appreciate that they've shaken up the tourney schedule a bit recently, but aside from that, it's nothing but disappointment. communication is just terrible. nobody can get a straight answer about anything---if they can get an answer from support at all. the chat policies are totally fucked up now. it's hard to believe ownership hasn't changed hands.

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

The evidence is plenty in the way they are misrepresenting facts to state nonsensical statements in an effort to create a false narrative regarding me and SwC.

Ive 'arranged' for people to be chat banned from a discord channel, just another lie in some attempt to discredit me.

Here is an example of you asking for someone to be banned on SWC because of their interaction with you on Discord. Should I post more?

I am soooooooo sorry that it is no longer fun for you guys to play poker at SwC because you cant be abusive and use racial and homophobic slurs at will, like it was just a few months a go.

Does SWC condone your sarcasm and vitriol? Seems really unprofessional to me, but hey, it's their site to burn to the ground if they want. I take exception to you claiming that I use racial and homophobic slurs. Please back that up with a screenshot or apologize.

That is what has changed......you want to take all of your anger out on me, that is perfect, that is why I volunteered to be a part of the change that is happening.

A business doesn't want you to chat on their site/property, that is it. It doesn't matter if you don't agree or don't like the new rules, or that you don't like how they decide who to mute and when. Making me disappear changes nothing. Everyone is still accountable for their own actions and every business makes their own rules.

The focus remains on me, because abusers need someone to abuse, and I am tangible. I am something that can be targeted.

Just think about all of these attacks and accusations........regarding chat.........and not poker.......on a poker site.

I am so proud of SwC and the progress they have made in a few months.

You have gotten way off track here in your haste to paint every SWC player with the same brush. Please stop trying to make every argument about you being victimized by these supposed "racist abusers" on SWC for just a minute. Let's go back to my original questions.

1. How would having a specific username on Bitcointalk prove that the same person owned the account by the same name on SWC?

2. Isn't it reasonable to assume that you would retaliate against players who post here under their real names, as you have done on Discord (see above screenshot)?

The irony is not lost on me that the abusers are the ones that now feel like they are being abused......even if the reality is they are just being held accountable for their actions.

Really? Where did I say that I felt abused? When have I ever received a chat ban?

I look forward to your professional and on-topic response to my questions. 

What is that proof of? That I withdrew my support for BertBert?  Where did I ask for someone to be banned?  How am I supposed to answer your lies?

Obviously there is no need to go back and forth with you and BertBert, I have nothing to prove and no one to answer to except SwC regarding my actions.

So, once again, a long-winded post about chat and nothing about poker.....while attacking me......where have I seen this before?

If you don't enjoy SwC anymore, that is sad, because the only thing that is changed is the chat culture and abuse.  The poker is still the same. Even a little more enjoyable for good people.

I wish you guys the best in finding a new home that accepts you for who you are....you know the type of person that talks about businesses burning to the ground.

This is just getting crazy now. HH is contradicting everything SWC is saying.... Some truth in all of this would be nice...

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

HH is basically trolling xGoodfella in the chat right now...

[ThatOneGuyOnHere]

In chat they said HH is no longer a chat mod and no longer has green text! The site is a little better now!

[swogerino]

In chat they said HH is no longer a chat mod and no longer has green text! The site is a little better now!

It is always good when they remove unprofessional persons or people who tend to abuse their power against the customers which in an online poker site are the ones who keep it going.

After saying that I want to say that threads about poker are really low in number here and this is a good one and I hope it adds good and genuine discussion about one site that is considered by many as the one with the most players with cryptos.

[scammed-by-nitro]

The problem is, can we actually trust that statement?

What doesnt stop them to keep him, but undercover. If I would be swc I would do that, make a false statement and continue. Thats how they fool the players, same with the rake increase and so on.

[Mauser]

I wish there would be more NL Holdem freeroll tournaments instead of all these other variants. Or maybe show a bit more in advance when the NL tournaments are happening instead of 0.5-1h before? I was kind of waiting for a nice tournament yesterday evening and it kept coming Poker types I never played before. And googling tutorials on the variant while playing the tournament is not very fruitful. Anyone else here playing the freerolls?

[scammed-by-nitro]

I wish there would be more NL Holdem freeroll tournaments instead of all these other variants. Or maybe show a bit more in advance when the NL tournaments are happening instead of 0.5-1h before? I was kind of waiting for a nice tournament yesterday evening and it kept coming Poker types I never played before. And googling tutorials on the variant while playing the tournament is not very fruitful. Anyone else here playing the freerolls?

Dude, those freerolls have a pricepool of 10 Cents

[SkyReVo]

Higherhighs is obviously still affiliated with SWC, this is a fairly transparent move. They never said otherwise either, right now it appears they have gone AWOL and just let him lie for them.

This being said, I do believe that the ownership has not changed - yet. My theory is that they are preparing to sell - this is why they're cleaning up chat and raising rake, so the perceived value of the product goes up.

The huge issue with SWC is that we don't know when has changed ownership and our funds may not be as safe as they maybe once were.


Jonathan Little just got banned from ACR for saying to keep the absolute minimum bankroll needed on the site - but the same goes for SWC.

[marlais]

Hey, how about SWC going through their thread and deleting 58 posts (and counting!) over the course of a couple days? Guess that whole HH thing was pretty embarrassing for them in retrospect.

I can't believe that the post about them raising the rake again without notifying players didn't get axed. When did SWC get so shady?

[scammed-by-nitro]

Thats what these people do.
Inactive for weeks and then delete everything they dont like.
Wouldnt trust this site with 1$ anymore.

There is something very shady in the making.