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May 08, 2024, 06:29:38 AM
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It's like, losing a hand vs losing a life.

Well, kind of exaggeration, but I agree it would be a loss to lose Sparrow wallet  forever.

However, luckily, Bitcoin is open-source, just like most of the reputable wallets that you can use.
So, I am certain that there will be other wallets in the future that will gain significant popularity.
Don't forget that most people don't even use self-custodial wallets... So...

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May 08, 2024, 06:39:36 PM
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Following the latest development with Samourai Wallet , Sparrow team hurriedly released v.1.9.0

Sparrow got rid of the mixing feature, which is a bad birdcage at the current circumstances.

"Remove Whirlpool client, and other Soroban related features and dependencies".

They also  removed "mixing with whirlpool" section from the wallets docs.

I know that whirlpool is used to help prevent people from tracking transaction movements[1]. I know that Whirlpool was made by the Samourai Wallet Development Team and was an implementation of Zerolink coinjoin[2].

When the party who has the power to make a decision as was done on Samourai, Sparrow also moved to remove the whirlpool client in the release version 1.9.0. I think this is an attempt to be made to avoid the desired thing. In addition, is the remove whirlpool client on the release version 1.9.0 based on fear?

[1]. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/how-to-whirlpool-bitcoin-sparrow-wallet
[2]. https://bitcoiner.guide/whirlpool/

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May 08, 2024, 07:19:32 PM
Last edit: May 09, 2024, 06:16:13 AM by satscraper
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is the remove whirlpool client on the release version 1.9.0 based on fear?


On    common sense and wisdom rather on fear.  Better to be safe and maintain the development of the good product than be involved into hearing of a case. Sparrow has a good  feature, namely PayNym, that allows  to keep transactions between contractors in the dark, That is why I  prefer to lose the controversial wirlpool mixing feature  rather than the whole wallet.

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May 09, 2024, 06:44:11 PM
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On    common sense and wisdom rather on fear.  Better to be safe and maintain the development of the good product than be involved into hearing of a case. Sparrow has a good  feature, namely PayNym, that allows  to keep transactions between contractors in the dark, That is why I  prefer to lose the controversial wirlpool mixing feature  rather than the whole wallet.
PayNyms exist for years but I still don't know anyone who is using them for any payments Tongue
I don't think Sparrow developers took any earnings from whirlpool integration and they didn't charge any fees for this, unlike samourai developers, so they should not be in any danger.
But if government seriously wants to stop something and make it look bad, they will do it one way or another.

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May 11, 2024, 10:02:45 AM
Last edit: May 11, 2024, 10:15:30 AM by satscraper
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On    common sense and wisdom rather on fear.  Better to be safe and maintain the development of the good product than be involved into hearing of a case. Sparrow has a good  feature, namely PayNym, that allows  to keep transactions between contractors in the dark, That is why I  prefer to lose the controversial wirlpool mixing feature  rather than the whole wallet.
PayNyms exist for years but I still don't know anyone who is using them for any payments Tongue


This fact proves that PayNyms is indeed very good for privacy   - no one (even dkbit98 Smiley), except contractors themselves,   can identify who use it and who behind it because  those reusable codes do not publicly glued to addresses.  I can not get why developers of wallet are reactant to add  PayNyms functionality to their product. Sparrow and  Samourai have it, which ones else?

The more wallets add PayNyms the faster adoption of this payment scheme  within Bitcoin community.

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May 11, 2024, 10:35:51 AM
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That's another reason why I run my own node for my wallets and for my own Electrum server. I know what going on with my node and I don't need to rely on foreign and unknown other nodes to submit a transaction from my wallet or when my Electrum or Sparrow wallet has to inquire transaction history and transaction updates.

I know, my own Electrum server doesn't collect my wallet's addresses for nefarious address analysis purposes.

I value my privacy.
Running your own node is the most underrated thing in Bitcoin world. Everyone talks about using a mixer, coinjoin, etc but people rarely talk about the importance of running your own node (or at least using a proxy when you are connected to other node).

But if government seriously wants to stop something and make it look bad, they will do it one way or another.
It's easy to manipulate, especially for governments, that owns all the media resources and collects data about each people. No one talks about JP Morgan and other banks where billions of money is laundered but somehow Bitcoin becomes the major source of illegal money. Just ask anyone who isn't in cryptos, what they think about Bitcoin and majority of them will tell you that it's used for money laundering and illegal purchases while ask them about JP Morgan or Deutsche Bank and they'll tell you that these are official, government regulated banks. They completely ignore that these big banks are the main source of money laundering.

I can not get why developers of wallet are reactant to add  PayNyms functionality to their product. Sparrow and  Samourai have it, which ones else?
Maybe it's not popular enough. I came up with a conclusion that privacy doesn't matter much for many people and for those whom matters, use Monero instead of Bitcoin.

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May 13, 2024, 06:31:39 AM
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Sparrow and  Samourai have it, which ones else?

The more wallets add PayNyms the faster adoption of this payment scheme  within Bitcoin community.

According to my research, only these 2 support paynyms.
I think Sparrow has always been innovative with new features.
Craig Raw said in a podcast that they try to incorporate the features that they think are beneficial for the great majority of Bitcoiners.
But, then, it's on the user to actually use them!
I have tried paynyms and it worked smoothly, but it was more like a feature experiment to use them, rather than to actually get paid.

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I can not get why developers of wallet are reactant to add  PayNyms functionality to their product. Sparrow and  Samourai have it, which ones else?
Besides Sparrow and Samourai wallets, it's apparently also used by Stack Wallet. Also, Blue Wallet uses it partially, only to receive payments. This is the data I see in The Bitcoin Hole's software wallet reviews.

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New release after 3 weeks slack period and retreat from  wirlpool


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