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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.0  (Read 1041100 times)
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July 18, 2017, 08:33:22 PM
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I think you got it all covered. So far so good.

I love how fickle everyone is. If i am to believe Zerohedge then a majority of the price decline for btc in the recent weeks past can be attributed to turmoil over a btc hardfork. Is it possible it was fake news the whole time? Just a fud campaign started by a group of people who missed the ship and hoped to catch up?

How would such a fork effect our network? Do we then need to pick a fork or does it happen automatically?

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July 18, 2017, 09:13:07 PM
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Many will disagree with me, but I think a hard fork would be good for Bitcoin.

It didn't do too much harm to ETH.

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July 18, 2017, 10:13:30 PM
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How would such a fork effect our network? Do we then need to pick a fork or does it happen automatically?

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Uno implemented merge mining with Bitcoin at block 600,000 in May, 2015. Merge mining allows a Bitcoin miners to also mine for Uno. As a result the security of Uno's blockchain increased significantly. Bitcoin miners earn more for their hash, while contributing to the security of Uno's blockchain. Miners will continue to receive Uno block rewards for the next 300 years.

What would be the consequences of a Bitcoin hardfork for the Unobtanium blockchain?  Are there any effects or precautions to take?
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July 19, 2017, 12:11:10 AM
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How would such a fork effect our network? Do we then need to pick a fork or does it happen automatically?

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Uno implemented merge mining with Bitcoin at block 600,000 in May, 2015. Merge mining allows a Bitcoin miners to also mine for Uno. As a result the security of Uno's blockchain increased significantly. Bitcoin miners earn more for their hash, while contributing to the security of Uno's blockchain. Miners will continue to receive Uno block rewards for the next 300 years.

What would be the consequences of a Bitcoin hardfork for the Unobtanium blockchain?  Are there any effects or precautions to take?

Let Bitcoin fork.  UNO is good.

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July 19, 2017, 05:47:32 AM
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Who is Billy Meier?  What is Unobtanium?  I love it.  Yes!  That's the idea.  Just voiced my concern about the general public knowing how to receive and retain Unobtanium.  Maybe there needs to be explainer video(s) on how to receive and retain this form of wealth?

There are 2 tracks - those who are already in crypto and those who are not.  $UNO can be be a great newbie start point since "hodl" has never been a bad option due to the low issuance.

Still rare, still fair, it's Unobtanium.
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July 19, 2017, 05:54:36 AM
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What? Who is billy meier. What is this case you speak of? Okay google told me he is someone who thinks he has contacted aliens. Spare me the tedium of more searches and share why his case is worth paying any mind to? Joseph Smith? Only i can read the plates... if one is to believe he has contact with e.ts why not ask them to contact other people?

49 u.s dollars in uno is what you are paying for memes? Or 49 uno for 7 memes which is 7 uno a meme for the top 7?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-17/goldman-wins-patent-setlcoin-technology

How does one patent technology like blockchains? Did microsoft patent the operating system? Pretty much what we all know deep down. None of the major financial institutions are ever going to just join a coin, they want full control.

I'm offering a total of 49 $UNO to 7 of the memes entered into the challenge.  Out of all submissions to the challenge, 7 will be chosen to receive $UNO - each of the 7 chosen will receive 7 $UNO.  Details to come include - cutoff date (deadline) and where to submit entries.  Soft launch for now... some time needed to get folks up to speed, knowledgeable on the relevant facts.  Smiley

Still rare, still fair, it's Unobtanium.
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July 19, 2017, 05:55:55 AM
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Just came across this - https://youtu.be/U-hKSdLNzmk @mindhunter talks about one of his favourite cryptocoins: Unobtanium.

Still rare, still fair, it's Unobtanium.
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July 19, 2017, 04:15:10 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2017, 04:31:01 PM by four3200
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Investing plan Cameron 2020

Buy and HODL wait for 2020.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630029/

James Cameron in Avatar 2 (Dec 2020)


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http://cryptscout.com/coins/unobtanium/
(great list on frontpage of winners and lossers from 2014 boom cycle)

https://bravenewcoin.com/Unobtanium#Trading-Pairs
(very pretty)

http://cryptocoin.cc/table.php?cryptocoin=unobtanium
(ugly but resourceful)

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July 19, 2017, 05:15:25 PM
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Hey,

I don't use the Electrum wallet (not smart enough), but I know a lot of people do and would like to help beef up the service.

I'd be glad to help with a bounty.

What does it take?

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July 20, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
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I've got a kilo for electrum Wink  [make it happen]

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What are ur feels on WAVES?

open offer:

I would like to create an asset.  It will be endowed with some UNO redeemable on May 1 2020.
What does it do?  Kinda of a equity in this thread and merit for good deeds.
Other than that -- just for fun.

Discuss.  I'd like to give shares to any active participants here.   Right now.  (also Heros of past) / SPEAK UP.

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also.
$UNO is the Zeitgeist of what is IT!
old hands-strong, been there, seen that traders.

Capitalize on that.  

KNOWLEDGE.

really WISDOM Wink

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July 21, 2017, 04:21:38 AM
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UNOfficial Anthem:

https://youtu.be/Nj8kTg7TiYY

The rarest and fairest...Unobtanium
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July 21, 2017, 01:01:34 PM
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Automated Maintenance on Bittrex, wonder what they are changing.
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July 21, 2017, 01:24:59 PM
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Due to the UNO network experiencing deep re-orgs or possible attempts at double-spend by miners, I am disabling the dice games until further notice.

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July 21, 2017, 07:53:14 PM
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Is it anything to be worried about, the deep re-orgs? Anything we could even do something about even if it was a cause for concern, or just something ya gotta roll with?

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July 21, 2017, 08:36:22 PM
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Is it anything to be worried about, the deep re-orgs? Anything we could even do something about even if it was a cause for concern, or just something ya gotta roll with?

It's a problem. My games are calculated after one confirmation but some of the reorgs have been a few hundred blocks. I could get scammed by a miner so I have to wait until either the block relaying improves or a malicious miner is done playing around.... But right now the UNO network has one miner with over 51% so I would say it doesn't look healthy to me.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!extraction

Perhaps UNO should explore multialgo to keep the miners honest.

edit: I should also add that any exchange could be scammed the same way, they will probably take some action.

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July 22, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
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I would love to see multialgo PoW in Uno.
Merge Mined with:
Nexus SHA3 [Skein and Keccak],
Monero [CryptoNight],
ZClassic [equalihash],
Decred [decred],
Vertcoin [lyra2v2],
Feathercoin [neoscrypt],
Sibcoin [sib],
Myriadcoin [yescrypt],
Chaincoin [C11]
How many algo is the best quantity to be mergemined with. The more the better, or not?
When miner is not honest it's only because he have the opportunity to be that way.
I mentioned about that problem few months ago, but there was not so much response.
Unobtanium is the best coin to hodl except bitcoin, if we don't take action, can we lose uno from the exchanges?
I'm not an expert in hard forks but I feel if we go that way, we will mount up.
Have a nice day
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July 22, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
Last edit: July 22, 2017, 10:56:41 AM by edgar
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Bryce Weiner in telegram today,

Doesn't look like anything bad happened. We are getting swept up in profit switching mining pools.

Blockchains automatically reorg forks after a short period of time. It's already resolved. We are just checking out if there's anything malicious.

It was accidental, I'm sure. We are talking 30PHs that showed up out of nowhere. It cranked out blocks quickly until KGW could compensate. That's what caused the fork: more blocks produced than propagated.

I'm sitting here looking through the chain and it doesn't look hostile at all.



my 0.02 - that being said, multialgo pow is worthy of discussion.

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July 22, 2017, 03:33:13 PM
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Bryce Weiner in telegram today,

Doesn't look like anything bad happened. We are getting swept up in profit switching mining pools.

Blockchains automatically reorg forks after a short period of time. It's already resolved. We are just checking out if there's anything malicious.

It was accidental, I'm sure. We are talking 30PHs that showed up out of nowhere. It cranked out blocks quickly until KGW could compensate. That's what caused the fork: more blocks produced than propagated.

I'm sitting here looking through the chain and it doesn't look hostile at all.



my 0.02 - that being said, multialgo pow is worthy of discussion.

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Well, I'm glad I can take his word for it, that's a burden lifted...  Roll Eyes

Closing my games are done as a result of an abundance of caution. Regardless, over 51% is still unacceptable.

To CrystalSufir's question, how many algos is a balancing act. Too many is difficult to maintain, not enough leaves too many miners in control... I would look to the successful multialgo coins out there for guidance. And no hardfork should be taken lightly, consensus is required.

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July 22, 2017, 08:20:34 PM
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I agree on shutting down the games till things 'normalize'. No point in assuming unnecessary risk. 

Be it nonthreatening or accidental it still is sort of a big deal that there is a pool that could 51% the network. I was under the impression that that was one of the key reasons to merge mine.

Would a solution to how many alternate algos to consider consist of looking at the amount of hash they contain, picking those that could offset a certain % of the sha power? Would that be enough to keep a 51% attack from taking place?

If we did 3 different algos and were able to make it so each one was 33% of the hashing power would that be a potential solution?

How exactly would the other algos work to keep the network secure? Is there parity needed between the speeds? Like ant miners mined at 1 g/hs and scrypt miners were 1 m/hs, how would that impact miners here? Would the alternate algo networks be that much weaker to the point of it being a drop in the bucket ? I have been out of the mining loop for a long while now so i could be waaay off base with my thoughts here.


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July 22, 2017, 11:04:08 PM
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Hi,

Noob situation and questions here.  I think I just got the software built in Ubuntu (16.04) following the instructions in FallingKnife's post #9207 "Quick-and-Dirty Unobtanium Wallet Build Guide - Linux".  If the build was indeed successful, how do I generate a key-pair or sync up with the network?  Is there a user-interface in the directory-structure that I cloned from github (and hopefully built adequately)? (It doesn't have to be a gui with bells-and-whistles -- although that would be great; I'd be alright with a command-line one too.) Nothing seems to show as executable -- is it just a matter of setting the user permissions or using chmod on some file or files?

I've got some of the Cryptonote (e.g. Monero and some others) and Dash wallets to work before but haven't really had much luck with the Bitcoin-based alt-coins. Also, the unobtanium.uno website shows that the QT Wallet for Linux is source-only with no executable, the Electrum wallet for Linux seems to be offline, and the reviewers for the Android app seem to indicate that crashes frequently.  Hopefully I'm not forced to hold UNO only on an exchange for now (especially because I'd like to be mining it).

I'm hoping some answers might clear up struggles I've had getting two or three other coins with a wallet and a node (I'm not sure if the latter is the correct terminology as I'm more used to Monero, etc.) functioning on Ubuntu.  I was pretty excited when the thing seemed to build but it seems to be only halfway to where I want to be with this.  Thanks in advance for any technical input from anyone.

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