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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC!  (Read 1023923 times)
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July 21, 2017, 08:36:22 PM
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Is it anything to be worried about, the deep re-orgs? Anything we could even do something about even if it was a cause for concern, or just something ya gotta roll with?

It's a problem. My games are calculated after one confirmation but some of the reorgs have been a few hundred blocks. I could get scammed by a miner so I have to wait until either the block relaying improves or a malicious miner is done playing around.... But right now the UNO network has one miner with over 51% so I would say it doesn't look healthy to me.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!extraction

Perhaps UNO should explore multialgo to keep the miners honest.

edit: I should also add that any exchange could be scammed the same way, they will probably take some action.

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July 22, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
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I would love to see multialgo PoW in Uno.
Merge Mined with:
Nexus SHA3 [Skein and Keccak],
Monero [CryptoNight],
ZClassic [equalihash],
Decred [decred],
Vertcoin [lyra2v2],
Feathercoin [neoscrypt],
Sibcoin [sib],
Myriadcoin [yescrypt],
Chaincoin [C11]
How many algo is the best quantity to be mergemined with. The more the better, or not?
When miner is not honest it's only because he have the opportunity to be that way.
I mentioned about that problem few months ago, but there was not so much response.
Unobtanium is the best coin to hodl except bitcoin, if we don't take action, can we lose uno from the exchanges?
I'm not an expert in hard forks but I feel if we go that way, we will mount up.
Have a nice day
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July 22, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
Last edit: July 22, 2017, 10:56:41 AM by edgar
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Bryce Weiner in telegram today,

Doesn't look like anything bad happened. We are getting swept up in profit switching mining pools.

Blockchains automatically reorg forks after a short period of time. It's already resolved. We are just checking out if there's anything malicious.

It was accidental, I'm sure. We are talking 30PHs that showed up out of nowhere. It cranked out blocks quickly until KGW could compensate. That's what caused the fork: more blocks produced than propagated.

I'm sitting here looking through the chain and it doesn't look hostile at all.



my 0.02 - that being said, multialgo pow is worthy of discussion.

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July 22, 2017, 03:33:13 PM
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Bryce Weiner in telegram today,

Doesn't look like anything bad happened. We are getting swept up in profit switching mining pools.

Blockchains automatically reorg forks after a short period of time. It's already resolved. We are just checking out if there's anything malicious.

It was accidental, I'm sure. We are talking 30PHs that showed up out of nowhere. It cranked out blocks quickly until KGW could compensate. That's what caused the fork: more blocks produced than propagated.

I'm sitting here looking through the chain and it doesn't look hostile at all.



my 0.02 - that being said, multialgo pow is worthy of discussion.

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Well, I'm glad I can take his word for it, that's a burden lifted...  Roll Eyes

Closing my games are done as a result of an abundance of caution. Regardless, over 51% is still unacceptable.

To CrystalSufir's question, how many algos is a balancing act. Too many is difficult to maintain, not enough leaves too many miners in control... I would look to the successful multialgo coins out there for guidance. And no hardfork should be taken lightly, consensus is required.

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July 22, 2017, 08:20:34 PM
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I agree on shutting down the games till things 'normalize'. No point in assuming unnecessary risk. 

Be it nonthreatening or accidental it still is sort of a big deal that there is a pool that could 51% the network. I was under the impression that that was one of the key reasons to merge mine.

Would a solution to how many alternate algos to consider consist of looking at the amount of hash they contain, picking those that could offset a certain % of the sha power? Would that be enough to keep a 51% attack from taking place?

If we did 3 different algos and were able to make it so each one was 33% of the hashing power would that be a potential solution?

How exactly would the other algos work to keep the network secure? Is there parity needed between the speeds? Like ant miners mined at 1 g/hs and scrypt miners were 1 m/hs, how would that impact miners here? Would the alternate algo networks be that much weaker to the point of it being a drop in the bucket ? I have been out of the mining loop for a long while now so i could be waaay off base with my thoughts here.


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July 22, 2017, 11:04:08 PM
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Hi,

Noob situation and questions here.  I think I just got the software built in Ubuntu (16.04) following the instructions in FallingKnife's post #9207 "Quick-and-Dirty Unobtanium Wallet Build Guide - Linux".  If the build was indeed successful, how do I generate a key-pair or sync up with the network?  Is there a user-interface in the directory-structure that I cloned from github (and hopefully built adequately)? (It doesn't have to be a gui with bells-and-whistles -- although that would be great; I'd be alright with a command-line one too.) Nothing seems to show as executable -- is it just a matter of setting the user permissions or using chmod on some file or files?

I've got some of the Cryptonote (e.g. Monero and some others) and Dash wallets to work before but haven't really had much luck with the Bitcoin-based alt-coins. Also, the unobtanium.uno website shows that the QT Wallet for Linux is source-only with no executable, the Electrum wallet for Linux seems to be offline, and the reviewers for the Android app seem to indicate that crashes frequently.  Hopefully I'm not forced to hold UNO only on an exchange for now (especially because I'd like to be mining it).

I'm hoping some answers might clear up struggles I've had getting two or three other coins with a wallet and a node (I'm not sure if the latter is the correct terminology as I'm more used to Monero, etc.) functioning on Ubuntu.  I was pretty excited when the thing seemed to build but it seems to be only halfway to where I want to be with this.  Thanks in advance for any technical input from anyone.

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July 23, 2017, 11:07:35 AM
Last edit: July 23, 2017, 11:24:21 AM by four3200
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Multi-algo should be on the table.
Such a fork doesn't touch upon fundamentals, just improves security protocols.  There is a test net.  Plenty of time to play.

I think it is a matter of copy and paste too, digi, digital have MM multi, the best option might be adding the XMY-groestl flavoring no?

Another thing is I was wondering if any of the POW have a 'unfreeze' mode, or simple timer, that recalculates the DIFF if the chain gets stuck for N-seconds.

Last but perhaps more debate-able.  master nodes.  this seems to be a proven method to pay the node keepers.

The toll/tax could be just rewarding 1 out over every 300 blocks to the longest uptime servers.  That's just 0.333% of the rewards.

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July 24, 2017, 06:14:41 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2017, 06:44:54 PM by four3200
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I've got a kilo for electrum Wink  [make it happen]

......................

What are ur feels on WAVES?

open offer:

I would like to create an asset.  It will be endowed with some UNO redeemable on May 1 2020.
What does it do?  Kinda of a equity in this thread and merit for good deeds.
Other than that -- just for fun.

Discuss.  I'd like to give shares to any active participants here.   Right now.  (also Heros of past) / SPEAK UP.

wELL I created the 1.0 asset.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043373.msg20343876#msg20343876

I ask some donate some slivers of WAVES to pay for transfers.  The backed UNO (9 kilos) is my responsibility.
  
The plan is to grant 7 of 9 tokens to the strong hands.  Here.  Subject to response.

The purpose is to have an instrument of equity for helpful forces in advancing the greater UNO project.
This is an attempt at Round 0.01 VC stuff.

Post or PM, your choice.

Asset is private equity, but will spin off to public after core distro.  Bearer Instrument.  You can sell/trade/give as you please.
OG private vehicle will remain post spin-off.  It is a corner stone.

strong hands / old hands
get a WAVES wallet it is EZ  Grin

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July 24, 2017, 10:31:03 PM
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There is a very active UNO group on Telegram, with a customized price bot that favors UNO.  Seriously, download the Telegram app and join us there.
We still love Bitcointalk, but many of us now prefer the quick interactive communication of Telegram for discussing UNO.
You can get a Telegram desktop app for Windows, or download it on your Android or iOS device. Then go to:

https://t.me/unobtaniumuno

kel-alt -(July 24 - have not learned how to post a new thread)
I just want to say hello - first post here. I had no idea UNO was so active. I don't think I have seen
another (relatively unknown) coin with this much posting. I bought some back
in April for $7-9 because I liked the name and the low coin count, and am very pleased.
I sold some off for dogs, I've only been in cryptos since Jan, made lots of mistakes, and still making out like a bandit!
UNO has been rising relatively slower than some and holds well during red days - now regretting selling
and not having bought more. Not selling any more and looking forward to $100, $500, and $1000!
Maybe par with BTC! Patience!
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July 25, 2017, 02:50:37 AM
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patience indeed.

big things await the strongest hands.

triple figures incoming!!
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July 25, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
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meet me  @  owl creek.
& blow me into the sky
with a cannon ...
this wont HURT.

$42
base line

fundamentals:
BTC LTC eth DOGE USDT

& ETH is lingering

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she blinded me with
SCIENCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOXnOdTBJco

and this I was like BLLAHHHAHHAHHA

it is all about psychology

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July 26, 2017, 11:26:47 AM
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Hello!
What is the point to place order like that on Bittrex
668mln Uno for 1 satoshi? It's wasting bitcoins for unobtainable quantity of unobtanium.

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July 27, 2017, 12:55:36 PM
Last edit: July 27, 2017, 01:18:30 PM by four3200
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fatfinger hope Grin
and also unobtani-able

Anyone wanting to port their btc-value out of Bittrex?
B'cuz you can't withdraw btc, use UNO!

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whining little B-EEE-ach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtDTNA85rm4
BTCJesus

i remember when BTC was 90% market share
yet was hard indicating a downturn to anyone with a brain cell or 2.
IMZ remembers too.
and i could even footnote that Wink

Face it Roger, BTC is the settlement [gold];
and F#CK YOU!  for being so DUMB. Myopic. False.

Alts have served all you BTC maximilist fascist.  The writing has been on the wall for near years.
None of any rank came down to work with the grassroot ALts.

Recall your claims on the solvency of MtGox back in the days, pay back Roger Wink

Or just karma.

In a nut shell.  

BTC is not will not be the store of value.  Something else without $Millions/day inflation riding on the same network will be.

What do you UNO?
Rodger Dodge
$UNO

[side argument you dipshits handed the Goldman ETHheads market lead]
dipshits arse heads

i strongly suggest $UNO investors reserve hold LTC Doge $TET and even ETH, not BTC.

i piss on all the BTC koolaid flock;
alts are the future since 2014.

BTC is / and has always been since it was hardcoded,
1Mb. slow. money.

freemarkets work  Grin

Now forkoff a Bcash shit coin rodger.
La 4 years of "there is no coin but bitcoin" and well now just floating yer own shitcoin.
Such late to the party.

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July 31, 2017, 09:36:07 PM
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Wow! UNO's hash rate hits 655 PHS today!


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July 31, 2017, 11:43:49 PM
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Such an insane amount of hash.... Impossible to say for sure, but this makes me imagine that a mining farm in the China has pointed a heap of merge-mining power at UNO & BTC.
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August 01, 2017, 06:40:32 PM
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Such an insane amount of hash.... Impossible to say for sure, but this makes me imagine that a mining farm in the China has pointed a heap of merge-mining power at UNO & BTC.

Crown and Terracoin are also undergoing similar crazy hashrates. If you find anything out please let me know Smiley
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August 02, 2017, 07:11:25 AM
Last edit: August 02, 2017, 05:53:17 PM by four3200
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I can't find exact details on BCC/BCH (i tried too).
So I will ASSUME that it is sha256-POW.

Which will cause more sha mining options than just BTCpool only thinking.
Which I hope and i looks like such is true, pool ops are thinking out of the box and considering the MM coins to run parallel.

Behemoth Petas. Grin  

Also I envision that as some as the hi-end equipment gets phased out of BTC competive-ness it will mine the MM and Multi-algos.

edit;
also looks like solo sha256 pow will be reexamined.  ZET was the leader behind BTC.  Now it is B-Cash?  There might me a great deal of reconsideration for ZET (which is 51% forkish ATM), Maza, Tiger, Unic, XJO, LEA, ASIC, p$, 23, and not much else.

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August 03, 2017, 01:25:25 PM
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Due to the UNO network experiencing deep re-orgs or possible attempts at double-spend by miners, I am disabling the dice games until further notice.

I sure miss those dice games.  Would 600 PHS help?

UNO is now getting 1/10th the hash of the Bitcoin network.

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August 03, 2017, 01:26:55 PM
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We love Bitcointalk, but there's also an active UNO chat group at Telegram messenger,   t.me/unobtaniumuno

Stop by and say hello.

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