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September 16, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
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baby baby ... this baby got legs ... baby legs

DEEPTHOUGHToftheDAY:: bitcoin days destroyed is seen as a plus (the longer the coins do not move) ... UNo has 191k coins ... so not only is it difficult to be high volume BUT it is a BAD THING ... hence less volume good?  [But maybe super velocity for a small percent (say 1% / 2000 coins) that trade back and forth acting as means to conduct transactions] ... any thing 'old' that moves on the chain will be detected by the high freq traders and defensive/offensive measures taken to handle the price flux.

the high freq traders will watch the exchange addies like hawks and (the PROs) will know if a large stack of coins (might be) entering the books.  quants running autobots.



ORACLEcalloftheDAY:: answer, BTCChina, AltMarket, IMZ-n-House.  question, What are the main/leading exchanges for 'Blue Crypto' coins in fall 2015?

CNY / $$$ / Bullion  Shocked  Wink


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September 16, 2014, 05:45:12 PM
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Restated...
...  question, What are the main/leading exchanges for 'Blue Crypto' coins in fall 2015?
Why, the best, of course.  Only the very best.
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The 2014 Blue Crypto Award

Voting has commenced!!!

(convenient link to nominee post)

UNO voting addresses have been posted under each nominee's name and description.  Votes are 0.1 UNO.  Please only 1 vote per nominee per person, but vote for as many nominees as you please.

Please participate in the discussions.

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September 16, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
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BTC is at 466 at Coinbase.

If my best case scenario happens (and it's not too far fetched any more) get ready to say goodbye to .005 Uno for awhile. Smiley

I LOVE it when BTC tanks. New money goes in and I don't ever intend to take it out.

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September 16, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
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this is what a bear looks like after shaving:


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I didn't even know bears could be taught to shave. Can you teach my wife?

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DEEPTHOUGHToftheDAY:: bitcoin days destroyed is seen as a plus (the longer the coins do not move) ... UNo has 191k coins ... so not only is it difficult to be high volume BUT it is a BAD THING ... hence less volume good?  [But maybe super velocity for a small percent (say 1% / 2000 coins) that trade back and forth acting as means to conduct transactions] ... any thing 'old' that moves on the chain will be detected by the high freq traders and defensive/offensive measures taken to handle the price flux.

the high freq traders will watch the exchange addies like hawks and (the PROs) will know if a large stack of coins (might be) entering the books.  quants running autobots.




you could be moving coins on the chain just for fun to get people used to coins moving. Uno has the advantage of not haveing a huge satoshi-wallet that would cause panic if things would be moving. I'd recommend to move in chunks, not huge amounts. Biggest private wallet is 2.2% of coins. That's alright.
The only thing really threatening is the cryptsy-wallet i think. Just pray they keep the shop afloat until people were able to buy it out.

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i have a theory about coins:

coins with premine/presale and a community expecting things spoon fed will not go anywhere. Either you need a huge team and budget to get things going or the core team ends up being worked up. Often enough people can't find consensus in such working-groups and the project fails because of conflicts about how to spend the budget. They also consume huge recources because they will be looking at it as a job and expect to be payd fulltime.
I think in case of coins the only way to really get it going is the wise approach Blazr2 took: put a project out there, that is totally fair and see what happens. The Dev can't be responsible for promotion and all the other stuff because he end up with too much work.
The only way to get a coin really going is to have it as fair as uno and a community that is aware that the work will not be done for them, they have to do it themselves. The swarm-thing. People expecting it fed with the spoon pay a price for that.
Bitcoin is the same. The people holding it know they have to promote it (satoshi won't do it for them).
So i think in a few years down the road we'll see that 95% or more of established and resilient coins are the ones with a fair start, good distribution, no premine/presale and communities that are aware it is up to them to get it rolling.
I think only coins with fair start and good longterm community have a chance to stick.
The more people take on responisbilities because they are holding the coin and want it to apprechiate, the more solid the coin is.

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September 16, 2014, 11:45:04 PM
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Un Developer Blazr2 did an interview with Theo Goodman of Sound Wallet.  Go grab a beer, make yourself comfortable and check it out!  Jump ahead to 4 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyaLwfJbV_k&feature=youtu.be

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@ Bitcoin National: I sure dig what you're theorising about 'good' and 'bad' speculation -- it is what my 'Mr. Smith Project' is about. And overall: big (pay-the-rent) sells on Un-Ex, sky-high transactional volume, community action to stymie any disruptive trading -- and a policy on the number/type of exchanges (I really have a lot to learn about this).

@ Project 117: an Uno-nly Mining Enterprise: IndiaMikeZulu will support this extensively!

@ Learminer: thanks for the graphics. Go, you!

@ V500: can I add to your theory?: we are seein' it at this very second: crap coins are failing at launch; price-independence is a growing consciousness; and it's clear that Sound Basics can trump Loads of Hi-Tech Add-ons.

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Un Developer Blazr2 did an interview with Theo Goodman of Sound Wallet.  Go grab a beer, make yourself comfortable and check it out!  Jump ahead to 4 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyaLwfJbV_k&feature=youtu.be

great interview. I think he doesn't realize it himself a lot how his own mindset towards coins is a professional one. Great stuff. Blazr2 a virtuose about coins exactly what i anticipated. Thanks for posting.



@ V500: can I add to your theory?: we are seein' it at this very second: crap coins are failing at launch; price-independence is a growing consciousness; and it's clear that Sound Basics can trump Loads of Hi-Tech Add-ons.


totally agree. I prefer a well thought out, fair coin with no premine, good hash, great community and a layout for centuries any day over a premined bait and switch pseudo-innovative unstable hip-for-a-week-coin with a wallet crashing on you and hardfork twice a month.  Wink

Coins hardforking a lot can't be adopted by the masses because people don't want to mess with that. Simple as that.


The ideal coin for wide adoption is not premined, scarce (low supply and inflation), secured with hash and reliable to use. Well, here you got that coin and people with some foresight are gathering Wink

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i deleted the shaved bear. Apologies. Was maybe a bit strong.

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i deleted the shaved bear. Apologies. Was maybe a bit strong.

LOL I had a good laugh there. It's true that the price is acting very positively.

3D Printing and Bitcoin, that's pretty cool.
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September 17, 2014, 07:13:27 AM
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to Uranus!

Uranus Symbolic Meanings

Art
Science
Eccentricity
Change
Invention
Revolution
Surprise
Originality
Sexual drive
Awakening
Non-conformity
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Self-Expression

Uranus is associated with Platin too, so maybe the Uran-wallet isn't that bad after all. Am i tripping again?
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Truth to tell:

who knows that Bitcoin's share of total crypto-cap fell to 75% during The Big Spike? BTC-altcoin ratio is my favourite metric. It was steady steady at 94/6 for months after the April inflection.

But it's rising now. BTC's share is just over 90% today. Let's keep an eye on it.

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Truth to tell:

who knows that Bitcoin's share of total crypto-cap fell to 75% during The Big Spike? BTC-altcoin ratio is my favourite metric. It was steady steady at 94/6 for months after the April inflection.

But it's rising now. BTC's share is just over 90% today. Let's keep an eye on it.

M

that is some great observation.

And the best part is: shitcoins are dumped, finally!
Been waiting for this turn a long time now. Hope the markets will now be more rational again.
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this coin is incredibly scarce. On bittrex alone you have been trading 9 days of new coins last 24h. You can't buy this many coins every day on one exchange alone because if you do demand outstrips supply many times.  Tongue

If you compared it coin-wise to bitcoin you traded uno with higher volume today than bitcoin was on all usd-markets combined on bittrex alone.

What i say is:
Bitcoin: 3600 new coins a day. Tradevolume on all usd-exchanges today: 5400 btc - so a bit less than 2 days of new coins was traded across all usd-markets (stamp, btc-e, coinbase, finex) according to bitcoinwisdom.
Uno: 30 coins a day. 280 coins on trex in 24h traded. More than 9 days of new coins.
Well, you do the math.

edit: cryptsy: approx. 3 days , coinbroker: 1 day, mintpal approx 3 days.

So demand/tradevolume outstripped supply on new coins today by 16 times! Yes, 16 or more!

(and we didn't even get started)

Uno is totally nuts if you look at it this way.
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September 17, 2014, 10:39:16 AM
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@ gustav .... BOO YAH!

newcoinissues vs. coinstraded

Bitcoin: 3600 / 5400
UNO:  30 / 280

great metric ... UNO is x10 and BTCx1.5

250 UNO must be bought from HODL'rs ... sellers market ... perhaps forever given the math.

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QuestionoftheDay ... What are the store of value or reserve currency of these magic internet monies?  The coins with very low inflation and a secure network. (Ignore 'fair'/'rare')

I can think of Zeta, infiniti, Quark, Doge, CGB, RZR, and UNO.  Which others am I missing?

(reason :: know thy competition)

In the big picture many things make UNO a good coin.  But the BIG central point is low inflation/base money supply.  that puts UNO in a unique class of sound money supply.  New 'smart money' investors will get that concept right off.  

Keywords:  

store of value
the internet's reserve currency
low inflation
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@ gustav .... BOO YAH!

newcoinissues vs. coinstraded

Bitcoin: 3600 / 5400
UNO:  30 / 280



newcoinissues vs. coinstraded

Bitcoin: 3600 / 5400  (on all usd-markets combined)
UNO:  30 / 280  (on bittrex alone)

we could be tracking those numbers and also compare to other alts to help people understand what the deal is with unobtanium.

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@ gustav .... BOO YAH!

newcoinissues vs. coinstraded

Bitcoin: 3600 / 5400
UNO:  30 / 280


newcoinissues vs. coinstraded

Bitcoin: 3600 / 5400  (on all usd-markets combined)
UNO:  30 / 280  (on bittrex alone)

we could be tracking those numbers and also compare to other alts to help people understand what the deal is with unobtanium.



I love this idea! It's an interesting metric for traders and helps them understand a coin's true demand and it's potential as a store of value.
I could envision a website like coinmarketcap.com springing up to rank coins in this manner. The data is all there on the explorers and exchanges.

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how about implementing that into the unobtanium.uno page?

Take a few popular altcoins + btc + ltc

most have  fixed number of new coins. Volume on exchanges is also possible to track. I could imagine that could be displayed in realtime and fully automated. I wouldn't know how to do it but sure one of you guys has the skills for it.

I think 'new coins issued in 24h/7days/30days' vs 'coins traded 24h/7days/30days' is a good indicator which people will come to love when trading coins. Correct?

That indicator is also a strength of uno. I'd think uno will beat them all at any time.  

I had the perception only very few people were able to extract this from the specs. With such a tracker/ticker/indicator it would be much more visible to everyday people.

LOL. If that gains traction in the end they all sell their bitcoin for uno and uno replaces bitcoin Cheesy

please, someone has to create that ticker! Uno can compete directly with bitcoin. It's real!
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UNO will be listed on Altmarket.com, paired with BTC, RZR and XDQ.


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