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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.0  (Read 1039631 times)
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October 14, 2014, 07:38:16 AM
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Also adding some buy support.   



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October 14, 2014, 05:54:14 PM
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Huh Huh
Question for the techies:  Part I:  How do you use the wallet to send messages on the blockchain with transactions?  We need this for a project.  How do you read those messages?  Do we need a special explorer??
 Huh Huh
Part II:  This is totally different than 'signing', whatever that is, right?  I've heard of the term 'signing' with some sort-of validation of newly mined coinage, and also in terms of BTC Electrum, to 'sign' your offline wallet transactions with an online wallet sans private keys.  Still have no idea what all that means technically, though.
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The important question is Part I.  Part II is just a pedantic study, I think, but would be great to understand, too.
 Huh Huh
Thanks In Advance!  (T.I.A.!!)
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Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on this at all! With that out of the way ...

AFAIK generally speaking there are many ways to attach messages to transactions, but most are considered hacks, have been disabled, are simply not supported by any client or rely on thrid party services. But there is one official way I happened to read about a while ago linked here. This was added to Bitcoin core almost exactly one year ago, so I believe Unobtanium should have that capability.

Basically what it does is OP_RETURN allows you to attach up to 80 bytes of data to a transaction. This is not exposed in the client though, you need to use the transaction API directly to read/write those. Maybe Blazr can give you some more information on this topic, wether it is supported in Unobtanium and if there are any plans to expose this functionality to Unobtanium users...

Apologies for getting to this a bit late...

Comments in transactions have been a feature some coins have had for quite some time, Joulecoin and TEKcoin both have them as I recall, I suspect Joulecoin would have the implementation that is closest to UNO that could be adapted (not to suggest that it SHOULD be adapted).

You can use one of your private keys to sign a message, and someone else can then use the corresponding public address to confirm. I believe it is implemented in the QT wallet already (there is also a rpc call available), and if not the brainwallet site has that capability: http://cryptap.us/uno/brainwallet

The block explorer that I maintain will most likely not have any messaging capability as I don't think Abe has that (yet).

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October 14, 2014, 07:51:55 PM
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does anyone know why the rich lists are different?  is one on the wrong fork?  which is correct?
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October 14, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
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Mark plus blues plus stout:

@ Benefactor: it's absolutely no failure if we can't contact The Winner or get a video done or whatever else.
What other coin has a sense of future?

The Blue Crypto Awards is a fine idea. Well done.

Thank you, sir.  It is reassuring to hear someone say that.  I do feel bad for the prognosis at this point, and really did want it to be bigger.  There is absolutely no reason to think it can't be big next year.  One thing we can do is require contact info when accepting nominees.  I have so much to say about this year's project, and I will drone on about it all on The Blue Crypto Award thread, once the 18th birthday has passed, winning nominee/video presentation or not.

No need for anyone to read it all, but just every detail I can think of for this 'full disclosure' project.  Almost already excited for next year's, as hope springs eternal!  Smiley
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October 14, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
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Huh Huh
Question for the techies:  Part I:  How do you use the wallet to send messages on the blockchain with transactions?  We need this for a project.  How do you read those messages?  Do we need a special explorer??
 Huh Huh
Part II:  This is totally different than 'signing', whatever that is, right?  I've heard of the term 'signing' with some sort-of validation of newly mined coinage, and also in terms of BTC Electrum, to 'sign' your offline wallet transactions with an online wallet sans private keys.  Still have no idea what all that means technically, though.
 Huh Huh
The important question is Part I.  Part II is just a pedantic study, I think, but would be great to understand, too.
 Huh Huh
Thanks In Advance!  (T.I.A.!!)
 Grin
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on this at all! With that out of the way ...

AFAIK generally speaking there are many ways to attach messages to transactions, but most are considered hacks, have been disabled, are simply not supported by any client or rely on thrid party services. But there is one official way I happened to read about a while ago linked here. This was added to Bitcoin core almost exactly one year ago, so I believe Unobtanium should have that capability.

Basically what it does is OP_RETURN allows you to attach up to 80 bytes of data to a transaction. This is not exposed in the client though, you need to use the transaction API directly to read/write those. Maybe Blazr can give you some more information on this topic, wether it is supported in Unobtanium and if there are any plans to expose this functionality to Unobtanium users...

Apologies for getting to this a bit late...

Comments in transactions have been a feature some coins have had for quite some time, Joulecoin and TEKcoin both have them as I recall, I suspect Joulecoin would have the implementation that is closest to UNO that could be adapted (not to suggest that it SHOULD be adapted).

You can use one of your private keys to sign a message, and someone else can then use the corresponding public address to confirm. I believe it is implemented in the QT wallet already (there is also a rpc call available), and if not the brainwallet site has that capability: http://cryptap.us/uno/brainwallet

The block explorer that I maintain will most likely not have any messaging capability as I don't think Abe has that (yet).

Regards,

Thank you, cryptapus.  Just sent you another pathetic donation!   Embarrassed  I appreciate it!  (I can't stop sending pathetic donations to everyone in our support team, but I just want to contribute something, but also have a tight budget at the moment.  These are just a token of appreciation, and honestly, I think everyone should be doing it a lot more.  There is hardly not a reason why most of us can't send a paltry 0.1 UNO whenever the hat gets passed around, etc.)
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October 14, 2014, 10:19:54 PM
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This just dropped:
http://blog.moolah.io/2014/10/14/moolah-is-having-to-close-its-doors/
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October 14, 2014, 10:47:01 PM
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If you have anything at MP, you better get it out of there. Sounds like it's about done for too, especially given it's performance lately...

edit: MP is currently down...

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October 14, 2014, 10:55:33 PM
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@ Messages on the Blockchain:

I left a message on the Florin Coin Bitcointalk thread several days ago. Gee, their site is v. quiet. We can still contact Blazr (I am shy. Tee hee.) I did know that Joule has transaction comments. We can seek information there.
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October 14, 2014, 11:00:21 PM
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@Mintpal:  Gotta wonder what the real story is.  Did they just buy it to scam all these people their funds?  Did they not know (what I assume is) that MP was having slippery transactions off of the blockchain in fractional-reserve cryptocurrency'ing, like I assume more exchanges continue to do, like gox did?  (DON'T STORE YOUR COINS ON EXCHANGES!!!)

Did they get screwed by their people?  (It did seem like they had a user-interface (UI) coder who was fired, since they were looking for a UI person halfway through the crisis.)

Were they just as incompetent all around as this looks?

WTH?!

I have funds in 2 accounts on there!  Not the end of the world, but this hurts.  Hundreds of dollars.  (Already factored into my tight budget, though, as this monstrosity has been going on for weeks, now.)
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October 14, 2014, 11:01:18 PM
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Disclaimer about the Hedges Things:

the GFC(/peak oil), guys, has been my primary focus since oil crossed $100 a barrel in January, 2008. I am not a tin-foil-hat doom-monger, but a theorist, bound to pragmatically state my conclusions:

I really think we're gettin' close to show time, campers! Which will send Bitcoin skyrocketing. Which will make the Hedges Project redundant.

So, okay, let's do it . . . but keep a weather eye open.

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October 15, 2014, 12:43:13 AM
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does anyone know why the rich lists are different?  is one on the wrong fork?  which is correct?
The conia richlist has not been as reliable as chainz.

Conia right now says, "last processed block: 491694 (september 22, 2014, 18:57 utc," so there's the problem. I'll email him and see if he'll restart it.

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October 15, 2014, 12:45:55 AM
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@Mintpal:  Gotta wonder what the real story is.  Did they just buy it to scam all these people their funds?  Did they not know (what I assume is) that MP was having slippery transactions off of the blockchain in fractional-reserve cryptocurrency'ing, like I assume more exchanges continue to do, like gox did?  (DON'T STORE YOUR COINS ON EXCHANGES!!!)

Did they get screwed by their people?  (It did seem like they had a user-interface (UI) coder who was fired, since they were looking for a UI person halfway through the crisis.)

Were they just as incompetent all around as this looks?

WTH?!

I have funds in 2 accounts on there!  Not the end of the world, but this hurts.  Hundreds of dollars.  (Already factored into my tight budget, though, as this monstrosity has been going on for weeks, now.)

I feel your pain. I'm out hundreds of Un.  Moolah says MintPal will continue, and that it has been turned over to a new management team (who exactly, they did not say), that all funds are safe.  And oh by the way, we're taking MintPal offline because of a big security issue.


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October 15, 2014, 12:48:08 AM
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@Mintpal:  Gotta wonder what the real story is.  Did they just buy it to scam all these people their funds?  Did they not know (what I assume is) that MP was having slippery transactions off of the blockchain in fractional-reserve cryptocurrency'ing, like I assume more exchanges continue to do, like gox did?  (DON'T STORE YOUR COINS ON EXCHANGES!!!)

Did they get screwed by their people?  (It did seem like they had a user-interface (UI) coder who was fired, since they were looking for a UI person halfway through the crisis.)

Were they just as incompetent all around as this looks?

WTH?!

I have funds in 2 accounts on there!  Not the end of the world, but this hurts.  Hundreds of dollars.  (Already factored into my tight budget, though, as this monstrosity has been going on for weeks, now.)

I feel your pain. I'm out hundreds of Un.  Moolah says MintPal will continue, and that it has been turned over to a new management team (who exactly, they did not say), that all funds are safe.  And oh by the way, we're taking MintPal offline because of a big security issue.



200 UNO on mintpal myself. Hope for the best for now Sad
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October 15, 2014, 01:28:34 AM
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All, I'm really sorry that you lost coins on MP!  Angry

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October 15, 2014, 02:29:35 AM
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Surfin the UNocalypse
 


Hey man, its fun to see you! You're a long timer here! And that's exactly how I pictured you. Except for the guitar.

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October 15, 2014, 03:57:01 AM
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I don't reddit or twit or twat or do a bunch of things.  Does anyone want to try this on Reddit?  Would be appreciated.  We just have a few days to get this done in time, now.... Got a message off of BCT.:

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Hello, I've been lurking on the bitcointalk UNO thread. I don't use reddit much, but thought that maybe starting a thread there would help locate the person while promoting the coin and contest.

Thanks for your work on this coin and for getting me interested in it. It's a great crypto.
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Let me/us know if you find any success, pretty please!

Thank you.
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October 15, 2014, 04:04:44 AM
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All, I'm really sorry that you lost coins on MP!  Angry
Don't bury us, yet!  We're still breathing~!  Smiley

For now, there is still hope, apparently, after looking into it.  Perhaps it will take a while?  We're all so used to CoinEx, gox and similar treatments, we jump to the wrong conclusion too fast.  Case-in-point was VirCurEx, who had a hack, and some super-cheap alts immediately after, as everyone dumped for whatever they could withdraw.  I scooped up one cheap alt, and got to sell at a huge % profit perhaps a month later.  Was a small purchase, overall, but does show that life after an exchange screwup is possible.

At this point, I do have to finally agree with, was it BitcoinCharlie? that MP is completely f*ked up, though.  Horribly unacceptable performance!!!
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October 15, 2014, 04:09:49 AM
Last edit: October 15, 2014, 04:29:43 AM by Benefactor
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What's with the Oroborus, or whatever that is?  I want in on the secret-handshake club!?  Maybe.  Would be nice to coordinate moves.  Wink

Maybe not, afterall....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shq39kWglZ4

...probably don't need another brand new keyboardist in this world, anyway.

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Plus, I pick up on plenty, anyway, observing through it.  Muahahaha!

Opps, wrong thread.  Wink
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October 15, 2014, 04:57:09 AM
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@ Benefactor: what would you like done on Reddit? (I'm a Redditor.)
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October 15, 2014, 05:05:04 AM
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Hedge001/IMZ for sale: 10 Uno (Opening Special -- silver is somehow still goin' down in price, and I don't think the 18th will see a wild spike.)
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