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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.0  (Read 1040066 times)
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May 31, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
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it does not look/sound/appear good at all.

however we've seen the price lower on good news and rise on bad news so its all a bit, whats the word... unprecedented?

heres the tail end of the row, yesterday - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37tm1b/czs_statement_regarding_the_dispute_between/

the retort by star xu was posted earlier today - http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37u6ca/okcoins_response_to_czs_lies_and_desperate/

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May 31, 2015, 12:59:48 PM
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[SIGH]

I have simply failed in my efforts to write (saleable) Basic Crypto Security instructions. Here's why:

https://cryptoguild.qnetau.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3&p=488#p488

Ian and I will discuss it, and report to the community. (Our translator is likely to encounter similar difficulties.)

IMZ Mark

Keep it simple! You are over-thinking it. Basics for a basic guide. Then include links for further reading if people are so inclined. A huge fault of my own is trying to understand things from the bottom up. It is impractical though as i don't need to understand how teeth form in my mouth, i just need to know brushing them removes crap stuck in the crevices and that helps prevent cavities. If you are trying to write a Basic guide make sure it is actually basic. When it comes to security there are a million and a half things you could do to make things more secure, but there are most likely a handful of things that people do to make their stuff really vulnerable.

To keep my next statement basic, if bitcoin can be derailed by one individual, better it happen now than 10 years later. Pathetic, but it is a bridge that must be crossed. If this whole ecosystem is that frail, then fuck it, doesn't deserve to be. Wtf is an OKcoin? "All i wanna do is get my kicks before this whole shit house goes up in flames  Cool"

We can't grow when we won't criticize ourselves!
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May 31, 2015, 01:12:05 PM
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slightly off top - more shite from the OKCoin debacle.

http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37u6ca/okcoins_response_to_czs_lies_and_desperate/

it just gets worse & worse (and everyone else is to brame)

apologies for brief derailment!
Really tired of all the crypto drama i'm not even paying attention to it and i don't think the china cares.
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May 31, 2015, 02:09:36 PM
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slightly off top - more shite from the OKCoin debacle.

http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37u6ca/okcoins_response_to_czs_lies_and_desperate/

it just gets worse & worse (and everyone else is to brame)

apologies for brief derailment!
There's an easy solution, just buy Unobtanium...

i dont see that as a solution.

especially if we're actively chasing the chinese 'market'

the same practices they have maintained wrt bitcoin (and i sincerely doubt OKCoin are alone) could be fatal to UNO/lesser alts and may well seriously harm us all - not that theyll give a shit.


have you been keeping up with whats been going on?

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Please give us a summary about what's going on with the asia markets as i have not been able to keep up with everything that's happening right now.



I'm on the Bitcoin fork thing and it does not look good for Bitcoin. Basically it falls apart and Gavin starts his own altcoin and tries to take down Bitcoin with his actions. The situation looks really grim right now for the Bitcoin community. This could crash hard. In case Bitcoin forks into two chains both chains will likely loose most if not all of their value. The dev team falls apart. There is a lot stuff going on right now. It is quite possible Bitcoin could see double digits this year thanks to Gavin.



I am prepared for all contingencies. I built the competing codebase here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html and it is beautiful, clean code for what it is. This new "BitcoinXT" not so much.


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May 31, 2015, 03:51:07 PM
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I am prepared for all contingencies. I built the competing codebase here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html and it is beautiful, clean code for what it is. This new "BitcoinXT" not so much.

This is the puritan MP foundation, right?
Are you associated with MP?
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I am prepared for all contingencies. I built the competing codebase here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html and it is beautiful, clean code for what it is. This new "BitcoinXT" not so much.

This is the puritan MP foundation, right?
Are you associated with MP?



No, not "associated" with MP though I do find #bitcoin-assets to be quite entertaining.


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May 31, 2015, 04:52:03 PM
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I am prepared for all contingencies. I built the competing codebase here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html and it is beautiful, clean code for what it is. This new "BitcoinXT" not so much.

This is the puritan MP foundation, right?
Are you associated with MP?



No, not "associated" with MP though I do find #bitcoin-assets to be quite entertaining.

Can you define what you mean by "entertaining?"
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I am prepared for all contingencies. I built the competing codebase here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html and it is beautiful, clean code for what it is. This new "BitcoinXT" not so much.

This is the puritan MP foundation, right?
Are you associated with MP?



No, not "associated" with MP though I do find #bitcoin-assets to be quite entertaining.

Can you define what you mean by "entertaining?"


Some things can't be explained, they must be experienced.


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May 31, 2015, 10:39:42 PM
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I have no doubt this has been covered before somewhere in the previous 400+ pages, but as search is disabled, it's not going to be easy to find.

I was recently sent an amount of of UNO, the first transaction to my wallet since 30-3-2015 ... The wallet would not synch (v0.9.5.0) ... I went in search of a solution and from the coin's website found the wallet had been updated to v0.10b together with a new config file.

I downloaded the windows version ... I run 32bit Win 7 ... Extracted the .zip and tried to run it ... This is what I received ... Don't understand what version of Win is the .exe designed for ?



Any help or advice would be appreciated

Next part ... using v0.9.5.0 with the latest config file I was able to get the wallet to mostly synch, however the amount of UNO I was sent has not appeared in my wallet as yet, even though the console is as shown



The current number of blocks never matches the estimated to fully synch ... I have deleted previous block info and re-synched still nothing.
The transaction is shown in block explorer ...http://explorer.coinpayments.net/address.php?chain=19&addr=uKFdGADVd6B8K7roUAQPu1kkFoF8PX5HEK

Anyone know what I should do ?

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@ MichaelNZ

The wallet won't fully sync because the newer wallet version is a fork, and as far as I know there isn't a 32-bit Windows version yet. Sad


EDIT: The only temporary solution that I know off the top of my head is to run a 64-bit VMware image or similar, and honestly that isn't a great solution. :/


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May 31, 2015, 11:29:46 PM
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I have no doubt this has been covered before somewhere in the previous 400+ pages, but as search is disabled, it's not going to be easy to find.

I was recently sent an amount of of UNO, the first transaction to my wallet since 30-3-2015 ... The wallet would not synch (v0.9.5.0) ... I went in search of a solution and from the coin's website found the wallet had been updated to v0.10b together with a new config file.

I downloaded the windows version ... I run 32bit Win 7 ... Extracted the .zip and tried to run it ... This is what I received ... Don't understand what version of Win is the .exe designed for ?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11053557_976674225690086_304279047749171170_n.jpg?oh=b1249e925061f3f750279d1c12436624&oe=55ECFC26&__gda__=1441968829_1160fee2dec61df53a1fa2e8b61e4de3

Any help or advice would be appreciated

Next part ... using v0.9.5.0 with the latest config file I was able to get the wallet to mostly synch, however the amount of UNO I was sent has not appeared in my wallet as yet, even though the console is as shown

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11148506_976676592356516_8120198031886299867_n.jpg?oh=59c9c0c80eae81d599ead134496893c3&oe=5600F8AE&__gda__=1443024927_575135b436a6b7939e52d1a11244b611

The current number of blocks never matches the estimated to fully synch ... I have deleted previous block info and re-synched still nothing.
The transaction is shown in block explorer ...http://explorer.coinpayments.net/address.php?chain=19&addr=uKFdGADVd6B8K7roUAQPu1kkFoF8PX5HEK

Anyone know what I should do ?

I'm having the same problem, MichaelNZ. It seems that the "developers" created a hard fork but didn't provide a Win 32 wallet along with it. That's completely mind-blowing to me, as Win 32 wallets were being used by many people I'm sure. Unless I'm missing something . . .
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May 31, 2015, 11:34:48 PM
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Dawn here. Gonna read every single link this morning.

@ SirSmokes: thanks for your thoughts. No. Wasn't over-thinking it. The problem is very real.

" . . . if bitcoin can be derailed by one individual, better it happen now than 10 years later."

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June 01, 2015, 12:42:44 AM
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I'm having the same problem, MichaelNZ. It seems that the "developers" created a hard fork but didn't provide a Win 32 wallet along with it. That's completely mind-blowing to me, as Win 32 wallets were being used by many people I'm sure. Unless I'm missing something . . .

You're not missing anything.  What can we do, but be patient and wait.  Along these lines - I sent 40 $UNO from Bittrex to Coins-e exchange that haven't arrived for more than a week.  I assume it's related to this issue.

Hang in there.

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June 01, 2015, 02:10:01 AM
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I have no doubt this has been covered before somewhere in the previous 400+ pages, but as search is disabled, it's not going to be easy to find.

I was recently sent an amount of of UNO, the first transaction to my wallet since 30-3-2015 ... The wallet would not synch (v0.9.5.0) ... I went in search of a solution and from the coin's website found the wallet had been updated to v0.10b together with a new config file.

I downloaded the windows version ... I run 32bit Win 7 ... Extracted the .zip and tried to run it ... This is what I received ... Don't understand what version of Win is the .exe designed for ?



Any help or advice would be appreciated

Next part ... using v0.9.5.0 with the latest config file I was able to get the wallet to mostly synch, however the amount of UNO I was sent has not appeared in my wallet as yet, even though the console is as shown



The current number of blocks never matches the estimated to fully synch ... I have deleted previous block info and re-synched still nothing.
The transaction is shown in block explorer ...http://explorer.coinpayments.net/address.php?chain=19&addr=uKFdGADVd6B8K7roUAQPu1kkFoF8PX5HEK

Anyone know what I should do ?

I'm having the same problem, MichaelNZ. It seems that the "developers" created a hard fork but didn't provide a Win 32 wallet along with it. That's completely mind-blowing to me, as Win 32 wallets were being used by many people I'm sure. Unless I'm missing something . . .

Wow... April 2015 and people still have 32 bit Windows? Just... why? That's like complaining someone isn't making an Apple ][gs version of the wallet, either. Where's my ProDOS Uno-wallet!!?>!


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June 01, 2015, 02:12:43 AM
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It seems that the "developers" created a hard fork but didn't provide a Win 32 wallet along with it. That's completely mind-blowing to me, as Win 32 wallets were being used by many people I'm sure. Unless I'm missing something . . .

you're not missing anything, it is blowing my mind too. 

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June 01, 2015, 02:20:47 AM
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I have no doubt this has been covered before somewhere in the previous 400+ pages, but as search is disabled, it's not going to be easy to find.

I was recently sent an amount of of UNO, the first transaction to my wallet since 30-3-2015 ... The wallet would not synch (v0.9.5.0) ... I went in search of a solution and from the coin's website found the wallet had been updated to v0.10b together with a new config file.

I downloaded the windows version ... I run 32bit Win 7 ... Extracted the .zip and tried to run it ... This is what I received ... Don't understand what version of Win is the .exe designed for ?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11053557_976674225690086_304279047749171170_n.jpg?oh=b1249e925061f3f750279d1c12436624&oe=55ECFC26&__gda__=1441968829_1160fee2dec61df53a1fa2e8b61e4de3

Any help or advice would be appreciated

Next part ... using v0.9.5.0 with the latest config file I was able to get the wallet to mostly synch, however the amount of UNO I was sent has not appeared in my wallet as yet, even though the console is as shown

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11148506_976676592356516_8120198031886299867_n.jpg?oh=59c9c0c80eae81d599ead134496893c3&oe=5600F8AE&__gda__=1443024927_575135b436a6b7939e52d1a11244b611

The current number of blocks never matches the estimated to fully synch ... I have deleted previous block info and re-synched still nothing.
The transaction is shown in block explorer ...http://explorer.coinpayments.net/address.php?chain=19&addr=uKFdGADVd6B8K7roUAQPu1kkFoF8PX5HEK

Anyone know what I should do ?

I'm having the same problem, MichaelNZ. It seems that the "developers" created a hard fork but didn't provide a Win 32 wallet along with it. That's completely mind-blowing to me, as Win 32 wallets were being used by many people I'm sure. Unless I'm missing something . . .

Wow... April 2015 and people still have 32 bit Windows? Just... why? That's like complaining someone isn't making an Apple ][gs version of the wallet, either. Where's my ProDOS Uno-wallet!!?>!




I KNOW!  It's like . . .  people are still using Windows!!?? Smiley
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June 01, 2015, 03:05:00 AM
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I have no doubt this has been covered before somewhere in the previous 400+ pages, but as search is disabled, it's not going to be easy to find.

I was recently sent an amount of of UNO, the first transaction to my wallet since 30-3-2015 ... The wallet would not synch (v0.9.5.0) ... I went in search of a solution and from the coin's website found the wallet had been updated to v0.10b together with a new config file.

I downloaded the windows version ... I run 32bit Win 7 ... Extracted the .zip and tried to run it ... This is what I received ... Don't understand what version of Win is the .exe designed for ?



Any help or advice would be appreciated

Next part ... using v0.9.5.0 with the latest config file I was able to get the wallet to mostly synch, however the amount of UNO I was sent has not appeared in my wallet as yet, even though the console is as shown



The current number of blocks never matches the estimated to fully synch ... I have deleted previous block info and re-synched still nothing.
The transaction is shown in block explorer ...http://explorer.coinpayments.net/address.php?chain=19&addr=uKFdGADVd6B8K7roUAQPu1kkFoF8PX5HEK

Anyone know what I should do ?

I'm having the same problem, MichaelNZ. It seems that the "developers" created a hard fork but didn't provide a Win 32 wallet along with it. That's completely mind-blowing to me, as Win 32 wallets were being used by many people I'm sure. Unless I'm missing something . . .

Wow... April 2015 and people still have 32 bit Windows? Just... why? That's like complaining someone isn't making an Apple ][gs version of the wallet, either. Where's my ProDOS Uno-wallet!!?>!




I KNOW!  It's like . . .  people are still using Windows!!?? Smiley

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June 01, 2015, 04:33:13 AM
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yes, lets vilify everyone who has had their uno shanghai'd by terrible dev conduct.


at you 32bit guys, i wish i could assist - i really do.

IME, its the squeaky wheels that get the grease.

go right to the source, make your feelings heard but remain mature & polite.


this among other things should NOT have been overlooked!!


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June 01, 2015, 02:42:16 PM
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yes, lets vilify everyone who has had their uno shanghai'd by terrible dev conduct.


at you 32bit guys, i wish i could assist - i really do.

IME, its the squeaky wheels that get the grease.

go right to the source, make your feelings heard but remain mature & polite.


this among other things should NOT have been overlooked!!
It wasn't possible to predict both devs would be unresponsive/indisposed at the same time. Very inconvenient. I hope I don't spill any secrets when i say that FK actually did prepare a contingency plan, but that fell through too, so there really was a lot of bad luck involved! Anyway, he has been busting his ass making things right and has already achieved much. Please don't forget we're all volunteers, doing this on our own time. This is not meant as an excuse, errors were made, but that is human.

As you can see by the addition of CaptChadd we're already actively recruiting additional devs for UNO, so that the work can get better distributed and we don't get into situations again where we rely on the availability of a single person. This is only the beginning, and everybody is invited to do his or her part in making the future UNO even better than the past...

As for the 32bit people, it won't be long, I'm fairly sure of that! Cheesy


Slightly OT:
I actually tried setting up a Windows dev environment to compile the wallets - it was worth an attempt but I failed. Tracking down all the dependencies in their required versions is already hard, when the error messages just wouldn't go away and google couldn't help I gave up. Really made me appreciate the great tools for dependency management, deployment etc. that I've got for my webdev jobs, so much more comfortable. I'll keep looking for a good guide to try again.

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June 01, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
Last edit: June 01, 2015, 05:31:16 PM by FallingKnife
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Ok, Squeeky Wheels...  today is your day.

8bitcoder, a good friend of the Unobtanium community, has compiled a 32-bit wallet for you.

http://unobtanium.uno/download/Unobtanium-0.10b-Win.zip
This will become the primary wallet download for Uno until further notice.

The 64bit wallet has been renamed and moved to http://unobtanium.uno/download/Unobtanium-0.10b-Win64.zip

I have tested the 32bit wallet and it works fine for me.  Based on our previous experience with 8bitcoder, his trusted position as the dev of Myriad coin and the green virus total results, I've already added it to Unobtanium.uno

Show 8bitcoder your appreciation for both 32 and 64 bit wallets by sending a tip to his Uno address, uZSab1bmd3Rbr3zYGHjP1GQ2sbqqjFvtNG


Let me know if you experience any problems.

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Thanks to those who have already stepped up to offer your talents to the Uno community the past month. Dispite the stumble, May was transformative for Uno in many powerful ways.  I invite anyone who has skills (marketing, technical, Linux, coding, development, etc) to get active and make good things happen for Uno.


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