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June 09, 2015, 10:03:56 PM
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Cryptsy coldwallet moved. We're at it again. Project hoover and things Wink
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June 09, 2015, 10:06:24 PM
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Those of you who are having no problems with the daemon:

Are you using it with p2pool?

What distro are you running it on?

Thanks.

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June 09, 2015, 10:14:43 PM
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Would be great if we could leave Uno as it is currently because it's pretty perfect now and will rise now very easy if you just leave it alone with this uncalled for shit. Jeezuz  Roll Eyes

As people are starting to realize in the BTC world: "If it isn't broke, why fix it?"


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June 09, 2015, 10:19:57 PM
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Would be great if we could leave Uno as it is currently because it's pretty perfect now and will rise now very easy if you just leave it alone with this uncalled for shit. Jeezuz  Roll Eyes

As people are starting to realize in the BTC world: "If it isn't broke, why fix it?"

That's right. Rule of complex systems! Totally not a stupid rule to embrace for a moneyapplication with real money on the line.
This isn't Tetris afterall!
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June 09, 2015, 10:31:24 PM
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Would be great if we could leave Uno as it is currently because it's pretty perfect now and will rise now very easy if you just leave it alone with this uncalled for shit. Jeezuz  Roll Eyes

As people are starting to realize in the BTC world: "If it isn't broke, why fix it?"

That's right. Rule of complex systems! Totally not a stupid rule to embrace for a moneyapplication with real money on the line.
This isn't Tetris afterall!

The general consensus regarding the UI here is correct however, a few tweaks could be made for those that use a GUI. I use cli and/or a node wallet so it isn't a deal breaker for me.


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June 09, 2015, 10:36:21 PM
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The general consensus regarding the UI here is correct however, a few tweaks could be made for those that use a GUI. I use cli and/or a node wallet so it isn't a deal breaker for me.

It's just a cosmetic thing and not that urgent but would be nice to get fixed.

Also majority said 'black or blue logo' and it's yellow now.
If those yellow-fetishists want yellow at all costs they could at least provide an alternative wallet for people with a black/blue thing. Shouldn't be a big issue.
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June 09, 2015, 11:00:51 PM
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The general consensus regarding the UI here is correct however, a few tweaks could be made for those that use a GUI. I use cli and/or a node wallet so it isn't a deal breaker for me.

It's just a cosmetic thing and not that urgent but would be nice to get fixed.

Also majority said 'black or blue logo' and it's yellow now.
If those yellow-fetishists want yellow at all costs they could at least provide an alternative wallet for people with a black/blue thing. Shouldn't be a big issue.

This isn't an option for those using prebuilt binaries, but you can put whatever icons you like in the /src/qt/res/icons/ then rebuild. I hated the yellow icon so I used the green flask instead (for the rare occasion I use QT).


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June 09, 2015, 11:20:49 PM
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The general consensus regarding the UI here is correct however, a few tweaks could be made for those that use a GUI. I use cli and/or a node wallet so it isn't a deal breaker for me.

It's just a cosmetic thing and not that urgent but would be nice to get fixed.

Also majority said 'black or blue logo' and it's yellow now.
If those yellow-fetishists want yellow at all costs they could at least provide an alternative wallet for people with a black/blue thing. Shouldn't be a big issue.

This isn't an option for those using prebuilt binaries, but you can put whatever icons you like in the /src/qt/res/icons/ then rebuild. I hated the yellow icon so I used the green flask instead (for the rare occasion I use QT).

I think 99% of endusers use prebuilt binaries.
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Yeah I was kinda sure most users just load up the prebuilt stuff. If I ever get a separate box to do gitian builds on I might be able to make some tweaks.

I like seeing the flask instead of the yellow icon though. One day when I am bored I may try and make it all look sexier:



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June 09, 2015, 11:33:19 PM
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Yeah I was kinda sure most users just load up the prebuilt stuff. If I ever get a separate box to do gitian builds on I might be able to make some tweaks.

I like seeing the flask instead of the yellow icon though. One day when I am bored I may try and make it all look sexier:


Sounds great.  Smiley
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June 09, 2015, 11:38:55 PM
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https://www.blockstream.com/2015/06/08/714/
"Announcing Sidechain Elements: Open source code and developer sidechains for advancing Bitcoin"

hmmm .... is UNO SC friendly?

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It's been planned for the coin for months. Merged mining implementation was a first step towards securing it and making it ready for sidechains. The potential effect on the price would not be a bad thing, to say the least, based on the statements of the Blockstream devs during their AMA and elsewhere.
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It's been planned for the coin for months. Merged mining implementation was a first step towards securing it and making it ready for sidechains. The potential effect on the price would not be a bad thing, to say the least, based on the statements of the Blockstream devs during their AMA and elsewhere.

Who planned that? Bryce won't do it. He can't even complete the most basic tasks. So who is the one implementing it? It's not Bryce. Last update isn't even 100% by now. I don't see this discussion as helpful at all right now.

Let's leave it at 'maybe later'. And if it's coming later after proof of concept on another coin in the wild it should be done by Maxwell. But right now we're still busy with ironing out the last update and i feel the community desires a good coin that's not a constant building site, at least for a while.
In 'under construction' conditions the cap won't grow.

I tell you: there will be no longterm demand from it beyond a pump and dump. It's really not that interesting and even too risky for that possible reward.
There is a whole lot of stuff to get right before we can even talk about another hardfork. Right now it's uncalled for. Maybe later.

I think the cap will grow a whole lot more if we can make the last update 100% and say "we're good for a little while" so the community can recover a little from the last very stressfull fork which in the end of the day caused selling instead of buying because it was delivered badly. I don't think we're interested in more screwjobs right now.

I think we should not even discuss it before an example is made on another coin for people to see what's it about and also for safety reasons. Going from testnet to Uno is BS.

Uno is a store of value coin (actually the only one) with one of the most solid communities. We're not that hype pump and dump shitcoin. And we don't need more bells and whistles than we already have. Uno is about the monetary properties and not really about features. You can build on top of it without forks! There is also nowhere near enough traffic on the chain to even justify a need for a sidechain!
  
Are you even holding a considerable amount of it yourself?

Bottom line: it's not urgent also generally rules of complex systems apply (don't fix what isn't broken)


edit: it will also only help the price if it is desired and welcomed by the ones holding the coins. You're speculating on maybe increased demand while i speculate on maybe increased supply from it. I'm sure the ones releasing SC are good in hyping it up, no doubt about that. But if the current holders of Uno respond to that hype in a positive way is another story.
People who don't provide liquidity shouldn't even talk about changes to the coin in the first place btw. We should make it a rule for the coin that only those showing a buywall at the market should be allowed to suggest any changes imo. Which one is your buyorder? Can you flash it? Or got some latest tradehistory to share?
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Hey guys. I know some things could have gone better in May. Didn't we have that conversation already? Nevertheless, Uno made huge strides and is well positioned for the future.  I won't repeat my long post of a couple of weeks ago, but there is a LOT of good news for Uno that has not yet been priced in. Imo, this is the most undervalued coin on CMC's top 100, and I would not be suprised at all to see that recognition priced in quickly and permanently.

I know BW ticked off some people. If we could go back, there are things I would work very hard to do differently. But BW did put in a ton of time, at no cost to the community, and he (along with contributions from others in the community) ultimately moved Uno in a direction it needed to go. Uno will reap the benefit of this fork for a long time to come.  If it was easy, every sha shitcoin would do it, and eventually they all probably will try.  Yes there is more work to do; if you can help, jump in.

I don't value the contributions people are making to Uno merely by the size of their wallets. There are some who hold little, but contribute in important ways. And some holding lots of Un who contribute by hodling. I don't believe anyone here needs to drop their pants to show how big their commitment is.  

We're all working to move Uno in a positive direction.  We're here because we like Uno. It's open source, open to anyone to come in and make contribution.  This is our strength and our weakness (mostly strength).

I think by and large this discusion is a very positive and honest one, especially when compared to other threads on BCT. I'm glad when I see people expressing criticism in constructive ways, because it shows that we respect each other and says that we want to engage in a long term productive relationship with one another. And that's the kind of community I want to be part of.

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June 10, 2015, 01:40:55 AM
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Good comment, knife. Maybe i was a bit fast forward.
Right now i know if we can get some peace and enjoy the last update we'll be able to raise the cap quite a bit in the months to come. Another discussion about a Weiner-fork won't help us now. It's just disturbing the heck out of everyone. Let's put the sidechains discussion on the bucket list for later when cap is in the millions. Right now a controversial discussion about untested tech isn't what we need imo.
Investors confidence is far more important than sidechains.
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June 10, 2015, 02:13:21 AM
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‘neophiliacs’:

Night of the Undead Neophiliacs

Filmed in Xtra-mega-hyper-techno-colour-scope, screening expensively this week only.

‘A harrowing tale of too much complexity and too little common sense. It had to end badly.’

Weekly Shitecoin Review

@ Gecko: ‘ . . . not tech for tech’s sake . . . ‘ Strongly agree. The 99% will opt for the sound and simple model.

@ Gustav: ‘Leave your wallets open.’ Okay. (I might learn something.) Please give us an update later.

@ Balu2: the Guild – including the Hoovering funds – now has easily $US 5,000 of funds at work.

@ Falling Knife: “Uno will reap the benefit of this fork for a long time to come.” And that’s the bottom line.

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June 10, 2015, 02:18:00 AM
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That's really well said, FK. I'm happy with where things are at now - turtle power (or maybe turtle torque is more apt)!

We keep plodding Smiley
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lol
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leaving wallet open helps the network (being a node). And currently 26% of wallets on the network are 0.9.5 which is too much. People need to update to wallet 0.1. Until they do keeping your 0.1 wallet open will help the network.  Smiley
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It's been planned for the coin for months. Merged mining implementation was a first step towards securing it and making it ready for sidechains. The potential effect on the price would not be a bad thing, to say the least, based on the statements of the Blockstream devs during their AMA and elsewhere.
 
Are you even holding a considerable amount of it yourself?

Bottom line: it's not urgent also generally rules of complex systems apply (don't fix what isn't broken)


edit: it will also only help the price if it is desired and welcomed by the ones holding the coins. You're speculating on maybe increased demand while i speculate on maybe increased supply from it. I'm sure the ones releasing SC are good in hyping it up, no doubt about that. But if the current holders of Uno respond to that hype in a positive way is another story.
People who don't provide liquidity shouldn't even talk about changes to the coin in the first place btw. We should make it a rule for the coin that only those showing a buywall at the market should be allowed to suggest any changes imo. Which one is your buyorder? Can you flash it? Or got some latest tradehistory to share?

I own UNO and have been buying it for some time. It's in my wallets (one of which is currently open and running to help support the network), not sitting on an exchange in an attempt to manipulate the price. Not that's any of that is particularly relevant.

Don't know why my simple comment answering someone else's question triggered such an aggressive response from you. I'm not advocating rushing into anything (or indeed advocating anything if you actually read my post) just relaying some information.  


My price comment was not speculation on a pump, but in response to Adam Back and Matt Corrallo's comments on how the price of a sidechain coin would be affected by arbitrage.  There's a lot of info packed into their AMA, but this link should expand the comments enough for you to search on page for "arbitrage" for the relevant info.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2k3u97/we_are_bitcoin_sidechain_paper_authors_adam_back/?limit=500



Hey guys. I know some things could have gone better in May. Didn't we have that conversation already? Nevertheless, Uno made huge strides and is well positioned for the future.  I won't repeat my long post of a couple of weeks ago, but there is a LOT of good news for Uno that has not yet been priced in. Imo, this is the most undervalued coin on CMC's top 100, and I would not be suprised at all to see that recognition priced in quickly and permanently.

I know BW ticked off some people. If we could go back, there are something things I would work very hard to do differently. But BW did put in a ton of time, at no cost to the community, and he (along with contributions from others in the community) ultimately moved Uno in a direction it needed to go. Uno will reap the benefit of this fork for a long time to come.  If it was easy, every sha shitcoin would do it, and eventually they all probably will try.  Yes there is more work to do; if you can help, jump in.

I don't value the contributions people are making to Uno merely by the size of their wallets. There are some who hold little, but contribute in important ways. And some holding lots of Un who contribute by hodling. I don't believe anyone here needs to drop their pants to show how big their commitment is.  

We're all working to move Uno in a positive direction.  We're here because we like Uno. It's open source, open to anyone to come in and make contribution.  This is our strength and our weakness (mostly strength).

I think by and large this discusion is a very positive and honest one, especially when compared to other threads on BCT. I'm glad when I see people expressing criticism in constructive ways, because it shows that we respect each other and says that we want to engage in a long term productive relationship with one another. And that's the kind of community I want to be part of.

^ This.
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June 10, 2015, 02:34:17 AM
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Haven't seen the cryptonaire for quite a while. Wonder what he is doing. Cryptonaire, are you still out there?  Smiley
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June 10, 2015, 02:42:55 AM
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I wouldn't call providing liquidity price manipulation cuz if nobody would it would be pretty bad. If you're not driving price up or down unnaturally it should be ok and is even neccessary because people don't buy illiquid coins.

About SC:
All good, man. I'm just still really burned out from the 20MB Bitcoin discussion and the last BW screw-fork and i really don't want to have more of this shit right now. I can read the market and it tells me we don't need SC or even a discussion about it. We are very good positioned the way Uno is right now and i think SC shouldn't be discussed below 2mln$ cap and decent testing outside Uno. That's all. Just the burn out.
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