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October 31, 2014, 03:07:59 PM
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Blow after blow, crypto is being hit hard by an inordinate amount of bullshit lately.

It is nice to have at least one pillar of stability!

We can't grow when we won't criticize ourselves!
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October 31, 2014, 05:22:14 PM
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Where is Unobtanium located?
"on the isle of stability"
in accordance with nuclear physics and the order of the universe

see V500s report on element120 ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg9380220#msg9380220

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October 31, 2014, 08:52:31 PM
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appears to be low volume day for uno, but then you look at it again and see it still is Top 20 volume on cryptsy.

Crypto makes a deserted impression. Are we the last survivors? Cheesy

I miss 5 to 10 shitcoin launches a day. These days the only ones launching coins are desperate twitter-whales launching the own private coin as a last resort  Cheesy


Other topic: Wanted to buy Litecoin today, then found out it still inflates with 30% this year... not in a rush to buy now. And people blame asics for it? Sure, those bad asics. It is them dumping all the coins. Sure, what else?  Roll Eyes


edit: forgot it's halloween. Everyone must be drunk in the pub. Explains low vol. 
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October 31, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
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appears to be low volume day for uno, but then you look at it again and see it still is Top 20 volume on cryptsy.

Crypto makes a deserted impression. Are we the last survivors? Cheesy

I miss 5 to 10 shitcoin launches a day. These days the only ones launching coins are desperate twitter-whales launching the own private coin as a last resort  Cheesy


Other topic: Wanted to buy Litecoin today, then found out it still inflates with 30% this year... not in a rush to buy now. And people blame asics for it? Sure, those bad asics. It is them dumping all the coins. Sure, what else?  Roll Eyes


edit: forgot it's halloween. Everyone must be drunk in the pub. Explains low vol. 

Happy Halloween!  Yes, the markets were very boring today.  Headed out to buy some pumpkin spice beer.  I make my best trades when I'm drinking.

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November 01, 2014, 04:06:04 AM
Last edit: November 01, 2014, 05:04:38 AM by BitcoinNational
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Happy Halloween!  Yes, the markets were very boring today.  Headed out to buy some pumpkin spice beer.  I make my best trades when I'm drinking.

You'd make even better trades when you are drinking Unobtanium

I see a meme there Smiley


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November 01, 2014, 04:59:32 AM
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I drink one bottle of stout in the garden after a trip.to town. Can a bottle of beer be mailed internationally?

Then I could buy some sultanas with Uno, and get a picture of Uno Guy drinking Uno while feeding Uno-purchased sultanas to Uno The Emu Chick.

And what Balu2 said about low volume:

cringe factor within the sphere; attention-diverting factors outside. The future is rosy, but low volume may be the norm for a while. Now is the time to get corporate-ey, lads. E.g., IMZ just set up an associate with some GAW -- but the incoming btc goes directly to uno.

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November 01, 2014, 07:59:36 AM
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Rolling into a new month... UNO... must... be... bought!

It's rare.  It's fair.  It's Unobtanium.
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The problem with cryptocoins is: all of them are tainted or inflationary.

... but there is one exception ...  Grin
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If anyone is at a loose end, check the 365-day charts of every coin above us. Ix Coin leaped back into the top ranks a month ago, but our old foe Mona Coin has slid under the mark.

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If anyone is at a loose end, check the 365-day charts of every coin above us. Ix Coin leaped back into the top ranks a month ago, but our old foe Mona Coin has slid under the mark.

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that's correct. Uno is pretty much the only coin that in a whole year didn't loose you money for holding it. But people think it is not interesting because it's not so volatile  Cheesy

When will they wake up?
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If anyone is at a loose end, check the 365-day charts of every coin above us. Ix Coin leaped back into the top ranks a month ago, but our old foe Mona Coin has slid under the mark.

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that's correct. Uno is pretty much the only coin that in a whole year didn't loose you money for holding it. But people think it is not interesting because it's not so volatile  Cheesy

When will they wake up?

Who towered above now lays below ...

POT ... hey man who cut your hair
SYNC, I/O, stealth, shadow, librex ... and other ninja mine and dumps
ANON
ULTRA
NOTE
infinitii ... a bloody once a +$million coin
NAUTI
RAZOR ... oh we where once so 3rd string ... hey CW/BW where's the 'atta boys' on that!?
DEV ... with the power of merged mining
SYS ... ha ha
KRAMA ... Sad sorry
MAX ... this dude is on TV and can beat us, why? cuz not fair nor rare

 
... who's NXT on our hit list ...

URO
CANN
via
WORLD
MEGA
NOVA
mona ... here kitty
VERT ... meet your inflationary fate
ix ... we can do it!

... the NEW neighborhood ...
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every month ... up the turtle go ... haree h8ters love to hate how we roll

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Rolling into a new month... UNO... must... be... bought!
I'm right behind ya!

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If anyone is at a loose end, check the 365-day charts of every coin above us. Ix Coin leaped back into the top ranks a month ago, but our old foe Mona Coin has slid under the mark.

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that's correct. Uno is pretty much the only coin that in a whole year didn't loose you money for holding it. But people think it is not interesting because it's not so volatile  Cheesy

When will they wake up?
You are absolutely right. It's a different animal altogether. UNO is the closest thing to digital bullion, imo.
There is nothing else in the cryptosphere  embodying the characterstics of uno that is viable.

If we were to setout today to create a digital bullion equivalent, that is something digital that could be a store of value and that would be desirable to hold in and of itself; not simply a gold-backed piece of digital paper....

We would want an indisputably fair launch  with no instamine.
We would need a reasonable period of time for distribution (pow mining) at least a couple of years
We want to get to a point rather quickly of low inflation, so that investors can feel comfortable holding it without the specter of having their holdings rapidly diluted
We wouldn't want POS, which is the equivalent of paying someone off in fiat and introducing inflation.
We would want it to be a reasonable, fixed quantity on a known production schedule, without any superblocks or hidden blocks
We'll want a tiny long term inflation to help sustain the network.  
We would want no pre-mine that would reward a small group of individuals and place the ultimate destiny of the commodity into the hands of a few individuals.  In this regard, UNO is better than gold; imo gold mines owned by huge corporations or governments which can ramp up production whenever the price suits them, is the real-world equivalent of a pre-mine. They already control the known gold reserves.  Same with DeBeers and diamonds.
We would want a history and longevity proving that there is an active market and interest in this commodity.

The leap that is difficult for people to make is:  how can a string of jumbled cryptographic digits be a commodity?  How can it be valued?
Gold, afterall, can be felt and it's luster appreciated; it's beautiful. Beside it beauty are usefulness in industry, and for jewelry.

How could a string of digits ever be a commodity.
Part of the beauty of a commodity like Uno is its rareness; not rareness in just the quantitative sense, but also in its fair lanch.   It is truly a rare form of value/exchange, the embodiment of fairness from the very beginning.

It's better than gold in the area of storage and transportability. Ukraine's gold reserves were not instantly wired to the NY Fed; it had to be flown out on a transport plane.

Utility?While it will never be used to build circuitboards, it can be used to buy circuit boards.  UNO has the ability to be used in commerce in ways that would be difficult to do with gold today. It has the same benefits of bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, as well as having the unique attributes of fairness/rarity/community/longevity.  For example UNO is easily divisible, instantly transferrable, easy to store.

UNO is a different kind of commodity. It embodies the unique and unusual characteristics of fairness that Blazr2 gave it at birth, which sets it apart from just about anything else. It embodies the utility of cryptocurrency, and the rareness of a desirable mineral.  And it has guaranteed low inflation (something you can't promise even with gold & diamonds, since more can always be produced if the price supports that.)

The world has never seen anything quite like this.  So I agree with you smalltimer. The challenge is helping people understand what this thing is, how it's different, and what it's good for. When people understand what it is, they eventually get it.

Fairness IS an innovation in crypto. Someone has to sacrifice to have fairness, and Blazr2 was that guy; he sacrificed in a way that I haven't seen anybody sacrifice since.  Zero holdback, no schemes to enrich himself. He even paid to scrounge a few early Uno for the faucet he set up.  

In a world of scams, if a coin doesn't have fairness at day one, it can never, ever be made fair later. Ever.

Uno now has 510,883 blocks of fairness. One year solidly behind it. New coins?  Not so much.
Critics can say Uno was pumped by Wolong (old news), or is being pumped (whatever)... but they can never say it wasn't launched fairly.

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November 01, 2014, 06:04:30 PM
Last edit: November 23, 2014, 01:07:55 PM by BitcoinNational
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i see a pattern

it's called end of inflationary period after SUCH expectation rapid speculation(whale pump), selloff, stabilization, and now ... up climbs the turtle Smiley
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November 01, 2014, 09:12:11 PM
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@FK

needs more promo like that. That's pretty good.
We need more education about the past dumps of the coinex stolen coins too because people don't know about that they can't interpret the charts correctly. If you don't know about that and look at 1-year-chart it looks pretty strange and a rise now and not before does not make the slightest sense if you would not have the info about coinex. But if you know that and know the coinex-selling stopped in July suddenly the chart makes very much sense. I think people are wary because they don't have that piece of information and the longtermcharts look strange to them. I think a lot of people would be more after uno if they were educated why the 1-year-chart looks so untypical.
Well, the issue with the charts is going to correct itself over time luckily.

A quote from a random person on the razor-thread:


Look at UNO over the last 2 months. Explain that rise when nothing ever has been done since wolong wrecked it.

i told them the story of course. But i think many people would think similar. They are not aware of all the coinex-trouble.

The more new tradehistory we have the less will all this be felt imo.
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November 01, 2014, 09:34:29 PM
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@FK

needs more promo like that. That's pretty good.
We need more education about the past dumps of the coinex stolen coins too because people don't know about that they can't interpret the charts correctly. If you don't know about that and look at 1-year-chart it looks pretty strange and a rise now and not before does not make the slightest sense if you would not have the info about coinex. But if you know that and know the coinex-selling stopped in July suddenly the chart makes very much sense. I think people are wary because they don't have that piece of information and the longtermcharts look strange to them. I think a lot of people would be more after uno if they were educated why the 1-year-chart looks so untypical.
Well, the issue with the charts is going to correct itself over time luckily.

A quote from a random person on the razor-thread:


Look at UNO over the last 2 months. Explain that rise when nothing ever has been done since wolong wrecked it.
coinex-trouble.

The more new tradehistory we have the less will all this be felt imo.
I agree, I'm not sure how long it will take some to get educated. The no inflation, fair launch, trade for AG / AU, Hedges, not to mention real people making up a great and supporting community.

It seems to me that most people are just trying to pump and dump to make a quick buck. The number of new coins should start going down as people wise up to the BS.

I have seen some new names here recently in our community, so that's always a great sign that the word is getting out. The turtle is the perfect analogy. Slow and steady. That's how true wealth is built. Stay the course ladies and gentlemen!

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November 01, 2014, 10:10:37 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2014, 01:46:52 AM by FallingKnife
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@FK

needs more promo like that. That's pretty good.
We need more education about the past dumps of the coinex stolen coins too because people don't know about that they can't interpret the charts correctly. If you don't know about that and look at 1-year-chart it looks pretty strange and a rise now and not before does not make the slightest sense if you would not have the info about coinex. But if you know that and know the coinex-selling stopped in July suddenly the chart makes very much sense. I think people are wary because they don't have that piece of information and the longtermcharts look strange to them. I think a lot of people would be more after uno if they were educated why the 1-year-chart looks so untypical.
Well, the issue with the charts is going to correct itself over time luckily.

A quote from a random person on the razor-thread:


Look at UNO over the last 2 months. Explain that rise when nothing ever has been done since wolong wrecked it.
coinex-trouble.

The more new tradehistory we have the less will all this be felt imo.
I agree, I'm not sure how long it will take some to get educated. The no inflation, fair launch, trade for AG / AU, Hedges, not to mention real people making up a great and supporting community.

It seems to me that most people are just trying to pump and dump to make a quick buck. The number of new coins should start going down as people wise up to the BS.

I have seen some new names here recently in our community, so that's always a great sign that the word is getting out. The turtle is the perfect analogy. Slow and steady. That's how true wealth is built. Stay the course ladies and gentlemen!

Every single crypto currency worth it's salt was pumped at least once.  Just go back and look at virtually any of the class-of-2013 coins on Cryptsy.  Nearly every one I looked at was pumped.  Pumps are just.... pumps. They don't say anything about the long term worth of a coin, but they sure do mess up a one year chart.

Why is UNO rising?
Yes, UNO was epically pumped by Wolong in 2014 (So was Doge, and other coins). Then it was dumped (so was Doge and other coins). Bag holders slowly sold off, supressing the price. This pressure has abated.
Yes, CoinEx stole about 5% of UNO and liquidated it, supressing the price. This pressure has also abated, based on our blockchain sluething.
The fundamentals of UNO stayed the same throughout.
Today, there is virtually no inflation. I suspect more Uno will be lost in 2015 due to human error than will be mined.

A lot of UNO was mined in it's first year, as rewards went from 1 Uno/block to .03125 per block. In 2015, Uno will halve twice more, meaning that selling pressure on Uno from mining will only be about 1% or less, a tiny fraction of what we saw in 2013-14.


What a lot of these people are missing is that fundamentals make a coin, not simply features. Features can be tacked onto any coin, whenever a dev/community wants to. For example, anonymity would be cool in Uno, but anonymity is an app, not money. If the holdings of your anonymous money is being eroded by, say, 50%/year, who will want to hold it more than a few days?   It may make a coin useful for a specific purpose (dark markets, perhaps?).  But what do the fundamentals of a coin say long term? Does anonymity alone make it worth holding? I don't think so.

There's lots of questions that I wish altcoin "investors" would ask about the coins they invest in.
Will holders of a coin be subject to POS high inflation?
Are investors better off to sell it/spend it than to hold it?
What does the mining reward look like?
How does do newly minted coins add to inflation?
Are investors at the mercy of anonymous devs holding a huge premine who may cash out?
Is the coin a flatout scam?  Only time will tell.  (Pumping a coin does not make a coin a scam -- it makes the pumper a scammer).
Has the coin been around for a year?
Is there a committed community that is likely to be around for awhile?

My problem with a lot of these "coins" is that they are not coins at all. They call themselves "this-coin" or "that-coin," but they are not really coins (Unobtanium doesn't even pretend to call itself a coin. Unobtanium is just Unobtanium, whatever that is). They are blockchain regulated apps trying to pass themselves off as money.  And maybe Uno isn't even a coin. Maybe it's cryptographic bullion.

Someone once asked me, "What's the innovation in UNO."  To me it's fairness, and most coins can't say that.

You can tack great features onto an unfair coin, but then all you'll have is an unfair coin with great features.  
You can build on fairness.




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November 01, 2014, 10:28:43 PM
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I am (early morning here) reading latest posts. I think the tortoise is a great meme for us.

FK makes an interesting point about the question about what Uno's innovation is: putting the parts together correctly! That is, the right equation of mining.

This will be a better year than last. Many many coiners, I sense, will stop looking at foxtail-on-the-aerial coins, and settle for a coin that . . . stores value.

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November 01, 2014, 10:33:01 PM
Last edit: November 01, 2014, 10:46:10 PM by smalltimer
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I agree, I'm not sure how long it will take some to get educated. The no inflation, fair launch, trade for AG / AU, Hedges, not to mention real people making up a great and supporting community.

It seems to me that most people are just trying to pump and dump to make a quick buck. The number of new coins should start going down as people wise up to the BS.

I have seen some new names here recently in our community, so that's always a great sign that the word is getting out. The turtle is the perfect analogy. Slow and steady. That's how true wealth is built. Stay the course ladies and gentlemen!

maybe people need some graphical summaries with big, bold letters?  Cheesy

People are so fed up with scams and being dumped on coins that are after that worthless and all the greed but they still can't find uno in large groups. Makes you think. Likely too fixated on the pseudo-novelties that get sold here on daily basis. There is always something new to loose money on. 90% of people just chase the new and end up disappointed most of the time.

The message about uno is going to get through to cryptoworld, it's just a matter of time. Keep commenting about uno in an unobstrusive way in other threads when there is a good opportunity to make a little reference to uno helps a lot imo. (i do the same)

Just never stop spreading the message.

@FK
'fundamentals' correct.

Ask about pos-inflation? People think the higher their interests the better for them. So they prefer 100% pos over 50% pos inflation. They would even buy 1000% inflation a year if it was offered because they think "that's interest/additional gain i harvest"  
I can tell you most people fail to see the bigger picture with the pos-inflation. "More interest is better" for most.

I observed most people being focused on demand and not on supply or both. Supply and inflation is frequently ingnored and the inflationary pressure assessed wrong. People sit there and never understand fully why the coins they have become cheaper and cheaper. They blame the 'evil large miner', while it's in the specs. It's not the miners fault he gets too many coins.

Maybe an IQ above average is required to hold uno, i don't know  Cheesy

'what's the innovation'?
It can hold value! That's brand new in crypto ffs!  

the decentralised blockchain was the big invention of this century. So after that what was so innovative with altcoins? Has there been something better than that? No. All the coins use the same blockchain-tech. Those 'innovations' in altcoins are just GUI, a little pos which isn't secure here and some anon-treansactions that aren't anon there, lotto which doesn't work and forks the coin on top. A translation to java. Great innovation!
Small stuff was developed. Uno could copy and implement all of that immediately if it wanted. What innovation? There was no big or important innovations since the blockchain. But maybe that's just me. Other people will disagree.

Uno represents one of the best implementations of the blockchaintechnology today. That's the innovation.

I don't need a hardfork every other week because the new introduced bug forked the coin (again) just to feel its innovative  Cheesy
But some people want that.
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