[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.0

[V500]

in effect with this low inflation uno will always rise with exception of maybe shorter periods where an early investor liquidates more coins than would be in the timeframe demanded.

So uno has pretty, pretty good fundamentals.

Our only fear is a monstrous bubble that could crash later    I think other coins have worse problems  

... the slow rise is our friend btw.

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[BitcoinNational]

The discussion in regard to cryptocurrencies had been dominated by only a few voices for so long it had become an echo chamber of confirmation bias.

Bitcoin became institutional so fast it left it’s grass root supporters – the ones that brought bitcoin to into reality – behind.  

They allowed thieves, con-artist, and credit card industry plants to sit on the foundational board.

Alt's are open source tech.  Open to all who can code. 

UN is open source.  A community that operates like a company.   

The goals within the UN company are to help create a stable profitable platform from the altmarket.

An economy of any scale might/can/will be run using alt-tech.  

Today over 1/4th of the total market in cryptocurrencies is in the altcoins. And that proves ALTs are money.  

While die hard bitcoiners disagree, smaller coins are easier and more cost effective to implement.

You’re not subjected to the massive price manipulating of BTC whales present in the BTC market.  

Few realize or refuse to grasp the fact that the BTC market was captured by very early adopters first, and second by slick well monied market manipulators.  The spike to +$1000/btc last year was manipulated by design and controlled by market entry/exit choke points.

The ALT market is a chance to reset the game.  And the first 100 coin communities that establish themselves as functional forms of capital and viable DACs will stand to change the financial landscape forever.

UN is the ground floor of the NEM ... the new economic movement ... built on the P2PFoundation ... you can watch or you can participate.

The choice is yours and it is an open invite to anyone on the planet with internet access.

[V500]

very well spoken @BN

[vector.iso]

My laptop failed to boot yesterday and the experts are telling me I've gotta reformat the drive  

but, thank my various gods, the bulk of my UNO is on paper and I had a recent backup of my hot wallet.  so, no UNO lost!!!  

Unfortunately, I had about $100 USD worth of another coin that out of laziness or stupidity I did not back up   Someone told me about something called "ontrack recovery" to recover corrupted data, but the software costs more than the value of the lost coin.

So I just thought I'd post as a warning to all those naive enough to keep all their UNO live with no backups:  you could lose it all just like that!

print paper wallets, and backup your encrypted vault onto 2 thumbdrives and a cloud service

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[IMZ]

Nice bit of theory, Bitcoin National. It's good to hear someone point out that cryptos came from grass roots (which is, as a theorist, the aspect that interests me most).

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[FallingKnife]

Here's an interesting thread... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602022.msg9436120#msg9436120

Genesis Mining is adding Sha256 hash, and asking which coins they should support. Imagine being able to buy 100 or 200 ghs  (or however much you want to speand point it at Uno, without the need to heat up your house.  It would be an easy way to get into Uno mining without the need to buy the hardware. If you're interested, put in a good word for Uno on that thread. The discussion is going on right now.

[IMZ]

@ FK: IndiaMikeZulu has invested in GAW. We will stick with that experiment -- but we considered Genesis. It was a coin-toss. Well, if Uno becomes Genesis-able, we will put funds into it.

@ Hedges: some loony is offering a premium for Hedges.

@ GFC Stuff:

‘Mighty changes are again afoot in global currency markets. The effects are as yet unpredictable, but they are most unlikely to be benign.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/jeremy-warner/11208913/Resurgent-dollar-threatens-to-cripple-Chinese-growth.html

Readers, we are presently [I opine] in the eye of the storm. Oil will go down. For various reasons -- but primarily because the global economy is slowing. Most readers here would agree that bullion will strengthen strongly as things go truly pear-shaped. But the cessation of QE in the US -- while the presses are running hot elsewhere -- is gonna draw funds to the $US. For a while.

m

[edgar]

when cryptsy was being slow to release UNO, i pulled out a total of 3800 UNO in 4 999 lumps.

that was the exact time that uRan was diminshed and uCun appeared.

since then my hard drive has faultered and 90% of everything i own is now in jeopardy.

'Day 4 of chkdsk /r /f C: has stalled... disk is grinding & clicking ;(

i have a few UNO left on cryptsy along with a few other alts...

[IMZ]

B@#$%y hell, Edgar! Keep us posted.

Mark

[learminer]

when cryptsy was being slow to release UNO, i pulled out a total of 3800 UNO in 4 999 lumps.

that was the exact time that uRan was diminshed and uCun appeared.

since then my hard drive has faultered and 90% of everything i own is now in jeopardy.

'Day 4 of chkdsk /r /f C: has stalled... disk is grinding & clicking ;(

i have a few UNO left on cryptsy along with a few other alts...

Good luck recovering your wallet!

4 days of disc recovery and no backups? That doesn't sound good. I've had a few harddrives fail on me before, usually most data could be salvaged onto another drive (put old and new drive in another PC) and only parts were unrecoverable. Are you trying to recover the whole PC right now (stuck in bootup repair or something) or trying to rescue data from the drive mounted into another system?  If the damaged parts include OS files the system might not be able to boot, but you personal files might be okay and accessible if accessed externally.

I wish I could be of more help, but I haven't had HDD failures in a while (since moving to mostly SSDs now that I think about it, hmmm) so my knowledge is kinda rusty.

[BitcoinNational]

Motion to organize UN company
memo 001
formation of councils (commitees)

1. dev council
2. otc council -active /IMZ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757232.new#new
3. network council / (mining operations)
4. website council /learminer
5. marketing council / dept of commerce
6. charity council -active /Bene https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761806.60
7. security coucil (price plunge / exchange reviews)
8. general council -active /fallingknife (you're looking at it)
9. tech support team / wallet helpdesk
10. interCoin Community ambassadors

[edgar]

when cryptsy was being slow to release UNO, i pulled out a total of 3800 UNO in 4 999 lumps.

that was the exact time that uRan was diminshed and uCun appeared.

since then my hard drive has faultered and 90% of everything i own is now in jeopardy.

'Day 4 of chkdsk /r /f C: has stalled... disk is grinding & clicking ;(

i have a few UNO left on cryptsy along with a few other alts...

Good luck recovering your wallet!

4 days of disc recovery and no backups? That doesn't sound good. I've had a few harddrives fail on me before, usually most data could be salvaged onto another drive (put old and new drive in another PC) and only parts were unrecoverable. Are you trying to recover the whole PC right now (stuck in bootup repair or something) or trying to rescue data from the drive mounted into another system?  If the damaged parts include OS files the system might not be able to boot, but you personal files might be okay and accessible if accessed externally.

I wish I could be of more help, but I haven't had HDD failures in a while (since moving to mostly SSDs now that I think about it, hmmm) so my knowledge is kinda rusty.

exactly, trying to salvage it before going the re-install route.

it is seemingly stalled at 24% but it seemed stalled at 12% too, and 21% only to make progress while i was sleeping.

not just my UNO wallet either, ALL my bulk coins... only very few left on cryptsy for trading.

so im being patient even tho just under the surface im FFFFREAKING!!

[V500]

when cryptsy was being slow to release UNO, i pulled out a total of 3800 UNO in 4 999 lumps.

that was the exact time that uRan was diminshed and uCun appeared.

since then my hard drive has faultered and 90% of everything i own is now in jeopardy.

'Day 4 of chkdsk /r /f C: has stalled... disk is grinding & clicking ;(

i have a few UNO left on cryptsy along with a few other alts...

Shiiittt, edgar.

Try to not to override the data. In case you can't get it done, if just the needle of the harddrive failed or some other technical thing it is very easy for one of these data-recovery-firms to bring back the data. Can be had from around 300$
Just to let you know there is companies specialised in data-recovery in case you need that. (use google, you find heaps)

[balu2]

1-week-chart looks tasty

[FallingKnife]

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so im being patient even tho just under the surface im FFFFREAKING!!

I don't blame you.
In the past I've used a Linux app called Clonezilla to make images of even corrupted disks, so if anything happens I can go back and try again. And again, if necessary.
You can get it on CD and boot it up on any Windows or Linux computer, and attach some USB storage to hold the clone image.
I'm sure you've thought of everything by now. I think V500's idea to use a pro service is a wise one.
Really, good luck. I hope it all works out.

[BitcoinNational]

@edgar ... this is cryptoland ... even if that HDD is totally fubar there are ways to recover the keys   My suggestion is to turn off that computer and pull the hdd out (don't stress it any more).  Then take the time to fully access the situation and possible solutions.  Lot's of googling ... hell you might just be holding onto a very secure way to store and protect private keys.

also the tech help here is A+ // i think our collective brains can get edgar his coins


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@everybody

looking at this from another angle:

1. this is bad luck for ed but an opportunity for the community to access their own UN storage security (mine shiiite too) but at least 3 digital copies and 1 paper copy for any serious stash.

dumpprivkey

 << learn how to use the console (on an offline machine)

2. this is an opportunity for UN company to create a data recovery 'UN enterprise' that specializes in very difficult HDD recovery services ... this is going to be a very BIG niche in cryptoland ... example recovery of private keys from a smashed HDD ... say it was compressed by a garbage truck ... and it holds 500BTC. If I am the owner said HDD I'd be more than happy to pay many kg of UN to recover the BTC.
 

[IMZ]

Edgar's Problem: pardon my naivete: IMZ has an associate who is both a talented crypto miner and runs an award-winning professional computer data-recovery business. Or do you have such guys at your disposal?

Bitcoin National's Memo: I recently opined that the 'pile-in ad hoc' model is my preferred, but I bet I am seven tenths in agreement with the basic idea -- it sure it a step towards the 'consultancy culture.'

m

[BitcoinNational]

@IMZ

'pile-in ad hoc' model will still be 90% of the method

The motion is to establish 'communicative nodes' and 'resources of suggestions to prevent congestion&digression'  ... so yeah the ship kinda has some officers on deck, so long as most all of the UN sailors grant them their respect.  Their is never going to be a mechanism of enforcement and all are free to go at it ad-hoc and in any direct if it pleases them.

[BitcoinNational]

1-week-chart looks tasty

it's a gonna blow up

[edgar]

im working on it... but its been a long day.

my sp20 turned up a bit fkd, 6 hrs of fiddles got it sorted.