Donald Chump: a Dimwit Man-Child made President

[squatz1]

He didn't sit for Woodwards first book about him, and I remember he was pissed when it came out.

Possible he thought 'that book made me look bad because I let them convince me not to talk to him.  I'm just going to tell him everything and then it will be a good book.  a great book.  the most incredible book you've ever seen etc...'

Also, Woodward is def up there among legendary journalists...might've just turned Trump on so much he couldn't say no.  And then went back 15 more times.

Yes he was, he blasted it as fake news. What's even better is that Trump is currently blasting the Woodward story as fake news and is actually now kinda just ignoring the whole scandal as a whole.

But I mean ignoring is a strategy in the Trump era of news. There's a new story every day, sometimes even every hour. The American voter forgets things so quickly, so yeah.

Crazy stuff though.

[Spendulus]

I'm not seeing it as that deadly

You're not alone.  Millions of Americans find Trump more credible than experts.  Even now, with almost 200k deaths and proof that he was aware in Feb of how deadly it was, they find a way to convince themselves that Trump was telling the truth when he was downplaying it and comparing it to the flu to make it seem like not a big deal.

Pretty nuts.

Given that there are many basic facts about the virus that were wildly unknown in Feb...

I guess my comment would be your handlers ARE going to try to sling mud based on the administration's handling of Covid, we might as well wait and see if anything sticks.

By the way, I'm actually not aware of Trump advising people on Covid's deadliness. Seems like he's mostly advised people to listen to their local or state health officials, right?

I found that Nevada rally interesting, because their governor had banned meetings > 50 people (which cut out a convention in Vegas I was registered for). Should Trump have followed that? Was he obliged to? Were the people free to go to the rally if they wanted?

[Quickseller]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread 

[Spendulus]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

Yes!

Call him names!

JUST LOOK AT BAD ORANGEMAN! BAD! BAD!
President Donald Trump said Tuesday afternoon that up to nine additional nations could join a peace deal with Israel in the near future, including Saudi Arabia.

“We have many other countries [that are] going to be joining us and they’re going to be joining us soon,” Trump told reporters on the White House lawn. “We’ll have, I think, I mean I think seven, or eight, or nine. We’re going to have a lot of other countries joining us, including the big ones.”

“It’s not something that my critics thought was possible and now they say, ‘wow, that was a good idea,'” Trump continued. “I will say, it’s gotten rave reviews.”

About a minute later, Trump added: “I spoke with the king of Saudi Arabia, at the right time I do think they will come in, yes, I do. This is a very big and very historic moment.”

Peace deal bad because ORANGEMAN!!!

[TwitchySeal]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

^^basic summation of how Trump supporters most often defend Trump

[Spendulus]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

^^basic summation of how Trump supporters most often defend Trump

I gotta admit I have wondered why defending trump was so darn easy.

[TwitchySeal]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

^^basic summation of how Trump supporters most often defend Trump

I gotta admit I have wondered why defending trump was so darn easy.

Yeah, gas lighting and ad hominem attacks don't require much effort at all.

[Spendulus]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

^^basic summation of how Trump supporters most often defend Trump

I gotta admit I have wondered why defending trump was so darn easy.

Yeah, gas lighting and ad hominem attacks don't require much effort at all.

Wait....

I thought I hadn't gotten past Argument from Ridicule.

[suchmoon]

I thought I hadn't gotten past Argument from Ridicule.

Four years in I still don't get why smart people like yourself support an illiterate buffoon like Trump, up to and including lowering themselves to his level. Back in 2016 I thought anyone who listens to Trump speaking for at least a few minutes would see right through him but here we are. So what's the secret? Does it involve an incantation? Large amounts of chemical substances? Generations of party loyalty? What is it?

[PrimeNumber7]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

Yes!

Call him names!

JUST LOOK AT BAD ORANGEMAN! BAD! BAD!
President Donald Trump said Tuesday afternoon that up to nine additional nations could join a peace deal with Israel in the near future, including Saudi Arabia.

“We have many other countries [that are] going to be joining us and they’re going to be joining us soon,” Trump told reporters on the White House lawn. “We’ll have, I think, I mean I think seven, or eight, or nine. We’re going to have a lot of other countries joining us, including the big ones.”

“It’s not something that my critics thought was possible and now they say, ‘wow, that was a good idea,'” Trump continued. “I will say, it’s gotten rave reviews.”

About a minute later, Trump added: “I spoke with the king of Saudi Arabia, at the right time I do think they will come in, yes, I do. This is a very big and very historic moment.”

Peace deal bad because ORANGEMAN!!!

I would point out that Democrats have been using AI tools to identify the most effective counter-points about coronavirus and used millions of paid “influencers” to amplify these messages.

One would have to assume this strategy is continuing to be used in the election season. In fact, there are many suspicious accounts that have recently become active in the politics sub, including some that I believe to be purchased.

Keep this in mind when reading these types of threads.

[Spendulus]

....

One would have to assume this strategy is continuing to be used in the election season. In fact, there are many suspicious accounts that have recently become active in the politics sub, including some that I believe to be purchased.

Keep this in mind when reading these types of threads.

Including this thread, whose author is essentially just doing a post and dump list of links. Probably the same one on a dozen forums.

I thought I hadn't gotten past Argument from Ridicule.

Four years in I still don't get why smart people like yourself support an illiterate buffoon like Trump, up to and including lowering themselves to his level. Back in 2016 I thought anyone who listens to Trump speaking for at least a few minutes would see right through him but here we are. So what's the secret? Does it involve an incantation? Large amounts of chemical substances? Generations of party loyalty? What is it?

It's not uncommon for two (or more) people to listen to the same talk, and have totally divergent opinions about the content, the presentation, and the speaker.

In my case, it's quite simple. Some years ago there was a company I used for various jobs, the CEO was somewhat like trump. Annoying, rude, said the wrong things at the wrong times, on and on. But guess what? Everyone used this guy because he was simply the best, if you wanted great work done on time error free at a great price, you used him.

So I would lean toward 'half autistic genius with poor social skills' and it would not surprise me that various people with certain preconceptions would only see 'illiterate buffoon.' But of those two descriptions, yours is wrong and mine is right.

[BADecker]

Orange man badddd. Must stop Bad Orange 🍊 Man at all costs.  

^^basic summation of this thread  

Yes!

Call him names!

JUST LOOK AT BAD ORANGEMAN! BAD! BAD!
President Donald Trump said Tuesday afternoon that up to nine additional nations could join a peace deal with Israel in the near future, including Saudi Arabia.

“We have many other countries [that are] going to be joining us and they’re going to be joining us soon,” Trump told reporters on the White House lawn. “We’ll have, I think, I mean I think seven, or eight, or nine. We’re going to have a lot of other countries joining us, including the big ones.”

“It’s not something that my critics thought was possible and now they say, ‘wow, that was a good idea,'” Trump continued. “I will say, it’s gotten rave reviews.”

About a minute later, Trump added: “I spoke with the king of Saudi Arabia, at the right time I do think they will come in, yes, I do. This is a very big and very historic moment.”

Peace deal bad because ORANGEMAN!!!

I would point out that Democrats have been using AI tools to identify the most effective counter-points about coronavirus and used millions of paid “influencers” to amplify these messages.

One would have to assume this strategy is continuing to be used in the election season. In fact, there are many suspicious accounts that have recently become active in the politics sub, including some that I believe to be purchased.

Keep this in mind when reading these types of threads.

I would like to point out that if Trump and the Republicans aren't smart enough to use the same kinds of tools that the Democrats use - fight fire with fire - maybe Trump isn't really smart enough to handle the Presidency. And I am not saying that Dem corruption should win. I am just saying "if."

More than likely, Dems are using this stuff (if they are) because they are failing so badly that they are grasping at any straws.

[squatz1]

....

One would have to assume this strategy is continuing to be used in the election season. In fact, there are many suspicious accounts that have recently become active in the politics sub, including some that I believe to be purchased.

Keep this in mind when reading these types of threads.

Including this thread, whose author is essentially just doing a post and dump list of links. Probably the same one on a dozen forums.

I thought I hadn't gotten past Argument from Ridicule.

Four years in I still don't get why smart people like yourself support an illiterate buffoon like Trump, up to and including lowering themselves to his level. Back in 2016 I thought anyone who listens to Trump speaking for at least a few minutes would see right through him but here we are. So what's the secret? Does it involve an incantation? Large amounts of chemical substances? Generations of party loyalty? What is it?

It's not uncommon for two (or more) people to listen to the same talk, and have totally divergent opinions about the content, the presentation, and the speaker.

In my case, it's quite simple. Some years ago there was a company I used for various jobs, the CEO was somewhat like trump. Annoying, rude, said the wrong things at the wrong times, on and on. But guess what? Everyone used this guy because he was simply the best, if you wanted great work done on time error free at a great price, you used him.

So I would lean toward 'half autistic genius with poor social skills' and it would not surprise me that various people with certain preconceptions would only see 'illiterate buffoon.' But of those two descriptions, yours is wrong and mine is right.

Talking about 'suspicious accounts' for a second, I highly doubt that people are going to come here to try to influence the election in some way. Not sure if that's what's being spoken about here, but we're like a niche of a niche of a niche in terms of the amount of members here are going to vote and actually care about the election. Plus ya know, you'd have to be in the US.

While I do go back and forth every so often about what I think about Trump (honestly, it may be the weather, lol) I don't think he is a dumb person. I think he knows EXACTLY what he is doing a lot of the time. Some things, obviously I can't explain with that, such as the Woodward book and his statements regarding Covid. But I do think that he wields his power of the Republican party in a very interesting way.

The guy can literally say whatever he wants now cause people have grown to expect it. Interesting, right? While his approval ratings have also been a bit wonky, you'd expect with the constant coverage of 'another trump scandal' every week, he'd be gone by now. But no.

[TwitchySeal]

In my case, it's quite simple. Some years ago there was a company I used for various jobs, the CEO was somewhat like trump. Annoying, rude, said the wrong things at the wrong times, on and on. But guess what? Everyone used this guy because he was simply the best, if you wanted great work done on time error free at a great price, you used him.

You're getting duped - do a little research.

Trump has a history of fucking over people he does business with, getting away with it, and then simply lying about it for the next time.  Over and over and over again.

His casinos, the airline, Trump University, Trump Steak, the list goes on...the guy's a scammer.  Basically the only thing he's been truly successful at is building his own brand, being a reality TV star, burying people with lawsuits and getting elected president.

[Spendulus]

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Talking about 'suspicious accounts' for a second, I highly doubt that people are going to come here to try to influence the election in some way. Not sure if that's what's being spoken about here, but we're like a niche of a niche of a niche in terms of the amount of members here are going to vote and actually care about the election. Plus ya know, you'd have to be in the US....

The fact that it's not rational does not mean people don't believe they can influence the election. They really think they can. Then there are other things, like cubicle farms full of people who work the Internet all day and have hundreds of thousands of sock puppets.

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While I do go back and forth every so often about what I think about Trump (honestly, it may be the weather, lol) I don't think he is a dumb person. I think he knows EXACTLY what he is doing a lot of the time. Some things, obviously I can't explain with that, such as the Woodward book and his statements regarding Covid. But I do think that he wields his power of the Republican party in a very interesting way.

The guy can literally say whatever he wants now cause people have grown to expect it. Interesting, right? While his approval ratings have also been a bit wonky, you'd expect with the constant coverage of 'another trump scandal' every week, he'd be gone by now. But no.

Anyone who believes that a person that can talk like a 100 IQ hick is a 100IQ hick is a total fool.

Lyndon Johnson was treated like dirt in Washington, they just respect a certain type of background and a certain method of talking. And certain kinds of $1000 shoes.

Reagan was called Teflon Man because no matter what kind of shit was thrown at him, nothing seemed to stick.

[Salauddin1994]

The list of us presidents lists the names of all from george washington the first president of the united states to donald trump the current president donald champ is not made as an egg-minded child-president but it is a better chance to win his election. People do not believe it and the people of the country think that the exercise of the sole power of the prime minister is not acceptable he ruled out the possibility of dual rule if the president's power increased.

[BADecker]

^^^ Oh, it's the same for anybody who wants to be president. It's a stupid position to want to be in. However, he made it, but you can't.

 

[Spendulus]

Chump Views Crypto a Threat, Proposes Countermeasures in New Budget

https://news.bitcoin.com/trump-crypto/

Is that like the Dems and their crusade against the2nd Amendment?

Because that has brought firearm sales to all time highs.

Might the Don do the Same for crypto?

[Spendulus]

Another Chump Impeachment Possible Over Supreme Court Nomination

https://www.ibtimes.com/another-trump-impeachment-possible-over-supreme-court-nomination-3048843

Likely the Dems, due to all their bad behavior the last two years, lose the house majority. What's it take, 18 to flip? And Dems have twice that many up for grabs.

[PrimeNumber7]

I would like to point out that if Trump and the Republicans aren't smart enough to use the same kinds of tools that the Democrats use - fight fire with fire - maybe Trump isn't really smart enough to handle the Presidency. And I am not saying that Dem corruption should win. I am just saying "if."

During the May/June riots, some people were calling the prospect of Democrats doing this as being similar to using tanks against their own people.

Talking about 'suspicious accounts' for a second, I highly doubt that people are going to come here to try to influence the election in some way. Not sure if that's what's being spoken about here, but we're like a niche of a niche of a niche in terms of the amount of members here are going to vote and actually care about the election. Plus ya know, you'd have to be in the US.

Every vote counts, and every impression on voters count. I don't know if you read the comments section of WSJ online articles, but there is a "Kevin Smith" who posts thousands of posts over time, almost all as replies to the most 'upvoted' (aka top, and most read) comments, maximizing the number of views his posts gets. This "Kevin Smith" (I am nearly certain this is a fake name) is feverishly anti-Trump, and would be surprised if he is not getting paid one way or another to post.

If an operative can pass themselves off as a person of casual interest, the impact of their posts can be higher for a voter. This is something i am seeing here.