⚽ English Premier League Season: 2024/2025

[Igebotz]

But a recruitment staff that really works with the manager.  Not just some guy who, yeah he prolly knows better, but the manager knows what's best for his overall philosophy and the squad.  The best example I can think of is City and Guardiola.  I think the decisions on which player to acquire are made by both the manager and whoever's in charge of recruitment.  Could be Txiki in City, not sure.

And hah, that's a decade of struggling for United...  Imagine being 12 years old at Manchester at 2014 and you start being a United fan.    The noisy neighbors are really going to sound really noisy.

Teams hire recruitment teams based on the club's ideology and the type of football it wants to play, and the recruiting team scouts the best manager who shares that mentality. This way, scouting players for the manager will not be a problem, and don't forget that managers also compile their own list of players A and B "want list" but the recruiting team made the last decision.

Manchester United fans who died in 2013 are their luckiest.

[Akbarkoe]

But a recruitment staff that really works with the manager.  Not just some guy who, yeah he prolly knows better, but the manager knows what's best for his overall philosophy and the squad.  The best example I can think of is City and Guardiola.  I think the decisions on which player to acquire are made by both the manager and whoever's in charge of recruitment.  Could be Txiki in City, not sure.

And hah, that's a decade of struggling for United...  Imagine being 12 years old at Manchester at 2014 and you start being a United fan.    The noisy neighbors are really going to sound really noisy.

Teams hire recruitment teams based on the club's ideology and the type of football it wants to play, and the recruiting team scouts the best manager who shares that mentality. This way, scouting players for the manager will not be a problem, and don't forget that managers also compile their own list of players A and B "want list" but the recruiting team made the last decision.

Manchester United fans who died in 2013 are their luckiest.

Yes, that's how the player recruitment process works on a team, each division must have their own analysis like what the recruitment team did, the coach did the same thing and recommended as a player needed in the game strategy plan that would be done By the coach himself, but if the more potential in seeing the recommendations of who will be more important, of course the coach, because he is the front guard in carrying out a game and training strategy, of course the player who is recommended by the coach is usually prioritized.

Don't remember the past, it always hurts.

[JollyGood]

Result from the final game of the day:

Brighton and Hove Albion 3-2 Tottenham Hotspur

Tottenham went in at half-time 0-2 ahead thinking the points were theirs but Brighton scored three second-half goals and won the game. I saw the highlights, it must have been top quality game from start to finish.

[nelson4lov]

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Tottenham went in at half-time 0-2 ahead thinking the points were theirs but Brighton scored three second-half goals and won the game. I saw the highlights, it must have been top quality game from start to finish.

You're not wrong there. I saw the entire game and it was a top quality one fr. Especially since the match right after that boring Villa vs Man Utd game. It was a very lively game that I enjoyed. Spurs played well in the first half and should've been up at least 0-3 at half time. In the second half, Brighton started strong and they kept Tottenham deep in their own half for the early parts of the second half and mistakes do happen when you probe hard enough. Udogie was the first to falter before the rest of Tottenham's defense gave in.

I didn't see the arsenal and City games so I will rate Brighton vs Tottenham above Palace v Liverpool and that Villa vs Man Utd game. That Brighton comeback was insane to experience.

[JollyGood]

When I managed to have a glance at the screen, Tottenham were already 0-2 up and half-time was around 7-8 minutes away. I thought Tottenham would have an easy game by controlling their defence and ending up with a comfortable win but when I checked the final score after the game ended, I was surprised. Brighton are playing like they did for the last couple of seasons, it is brilliant that a smaller team is making a huge impact in the Premier League.

I watched the highlights and it really was a fantastic game. The third goal should never have happened because the Tottenham defender should not have allowed the cross to go in for Welbeck to score. It was a brilliant cross while he was sliding on the on the grass and they deserved that goal to take a 3-2 lead.

Tottenham have serious problems, just as Manchester United do and they have to make improvements soon otherwise they will be left behind in the race for the top four.

You're not wrong there. I saw the entire game and it was a top quality one fr. Especially since the match right after that boring Villa vs Man Utd game. It was a very lively game that I enjoyed. Spurs played well in the first half and should've been up at least 0-3 at half time. In the second half, Brighton started strong and they kept Tottenham deep in their own half for the early parts of the second half and mistakes do happen when you probe hard enough. Udogie was the first to falter before the rest of Tottenham's defense gave in.

I didn't see the arsenal and City games so I will rate Brighton vs Tottenham above Palace v Liverpool and that Villa vs Man Utd game. That Brighton comeback was insane to experience.

[tokeweed]

But a recruitment staff that really works with the manager.  Not just some guy who, yeah he prolly knows better, but the manager knows what's best for his overall philosophy and the squad.  The best example I can think of is City and Guardiola.  I think the decisions on which player to acquire are made by both the manager and whoever's in charge of recruitment.  Could be Txiki in City, not sure.

And hah, that's a decade of struggling for United...  Imagine being 12 years old at Manchester at 2014 and you start being a United fan.    The noisy neighbors are really going to sound really noisy.

Teams hire recruitment teams based on the club's ideology and the type of football it wants to play, and the recruiting team scouts the best manager who shares that mentality. This way, scouting players for the manager will not be a problem, and don't forget that managers also compile their own list of players A and B "want list" but the recruiting team made the last decision.

Manchester United fans who died in 2013 are their luckiest.

LMAO!

Anyway, I think the case with Pep Guardiola is same as what you said, except at the part when the recruiting team makes the last decision.  I think Man City's recruiting team or whoever tries to get the players that Guardiola wants.  I mean they have the money and the club is still hungry to etch their place in football history.

And the oilers, Ferran Soriano and Txiki set everything up for Guardiola's arrival.

Some good matches this weekend, of coursse Liverpool vs Chelsea is one of them...  But I'm looking at NUFC vs Brighton, Fulham vs Aston Villa and for the lulz, Man United vs Brentford.  Thomas Frank might walk out of Old Trafford with a point here...

[JollyGood]

These are the next set of games taking place Saturday 19th October:

Tottenham Hotspur vs West Ham United
Fulham vs Aston Villa
Ipswich Town vs Everton
Manchester United vs Brentford
Newcastle United vs Brighton and Hove Albion
Southampton vs Leicester City
Bournemouth vs Arsenal

Tottenham are in action in the midday kick-off game but Arsenal play their game in the late kick-off game. Brentford scored five but conceded three in their last Premier League game therefore they will go in to the game knowing they can score and maybe beat Manchester United. My opinions:

Win: West Ham United, Aston Villa, Ipswich Town, Brighton, Arsenal
Draw: Manchester United, Southampton

[Luzin]

Draw: Manchester United, Southampton

There is an international break for the world cup, the league will be off for almost 2 weeks. Many players have a busy schedule. It is quite worrying that many players will be tired and may be injured. Many players from big clubs left for their country. Maybe it could be detrimental to the club if they get injured.

Man United's match may be the long-awaited match to determine how Ten Hag's fate is. Maybe the draw result is a realistic prediction. But victory can give a little remedy for disappointment in fans. I wonder how he can prove the words he has said.
 

[Distraction]

It looks like Erik ten Hag's future is going to be decided today after a meeting organized by Sir Jim Ratcliffe.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/oct/07/erik-ten-hag-manchester-united-future

van Nistelrooy is on hold for a probable duty. Another speculation is that Xavi might take his place. I remember he was speculated with Manchester United once again before. It is really hard to predict which one can handle the job better. 

I think it is time for Erik ten Hag to say goodbye. There is no progress made by the team at all. You all see how they play. I watched them against Aston Villa too and it was so unbearable.

[JollyGood]

Man United's match may be the long-awaited match to determine how Ten Hag's fate is.

If the Manchester United hierarchy decided to sack Ten Hag after the home game against Brentford, it will not be based on just a single game it will be based on a series of incidents and results. He should never have been given a contract extension at the end of last season because the club were looking for a replacement and failed. On the basis of that they gave him an extension and that does not make sense.

It looks like Erik ten Hag's future is going to be decided today after a meeting organized by Sir Jim Ratcliffe.

The meeting ended today but no decision on Ten Hag being immediately sacked was made. Maybe he has a reprieve until the end of the year or maybe they are giving him time on a game by game basis, we do not know. What seems clear is that he has lost the dressing room and the players are waiting for Ruud van Nistelrooy to take over.

[Igebotz]

Anyway, I think the case with Pep Guardiola is same as what you said, except at the part when the recruiting team makes the last decision.  I think Man City's recruiting team or whoever tries to get the players that Guardiola wants.  I mean they have the money and the club is still hungry to etch their place in football history.

And the oilers, Ferran Soriano and Txiki set everything up for Guardiola's arrival.

Some good matches this weekend, of coursse Liverpool vs Chelsea is one of them...  But I'm looking at NUFC vs Brighton, Fulham vs Aston Villa and for the lulz, Man United vs Brentford.  Thomas Frank might walk out of Old Trafford with a point here...

Final decision in financial context - They will most likely try to get whichever player/replacement Pep wants, but they will not go under the knife if the price is not financially feasible to the club. Pep manages the tactical aspects of the game, while the recruitment team manages the financial aspects. 

Lucas Paquetá was one of the player Pep wanted but couldn't get his hands on him.

Looking forward to Slot vs Enzo tactical battle this weekend, a tough test for both managers. A must win game for us surely.

[Distraction]

The meeting ended today but no decision on Ten Hag being immediately sacked was made. Maybe he has a reprieve until the end of the year or maybe they are giving him time on a game by game basis, we do not know. What seems clear is that he has lost the dressing room and the players are waiting for Ruud van Nistelrooy to take over.

Yeah, there is still no change in his situation. I really can't believe he is still staying like nothing happened.    This is his 3rd year with the team and still no improvement at all. I believe if there wasn't any owner change then probably he would have got sacked already. But the new owners wanted to give him another chance instead. Despite spending a ton of money nothing changes...


I have found this.



They made a squad with the players about whom they think they are in the TOTY so far. Onana has the most clean sheets maybe but Raya has made really amazing saves so far. I believe he is in better condition. People discuss Saka's being preferred instead of Salah. They have had similar performances statistically but I still find Saka's contribution a little ahead.

[JollyGood]

I think the writing is on the wall as far as Ten Hag is concerned. It is just a matter of time before he is replaced and at least until a replacement can be found they will put Ruud van Nistelrooy as interim manager. If he does a good job he will probably be offered the job but is that the way forward for a club of that size and stature?

For some reason the rumours about Tuchel just do not go away.

Yeah, there is still no change in his situation. I really can't believe he is still staying like nothing happened.    This is his 3rd year with the team and still no improvement at all. I believe if there wasn't any owner change then probably he would have got sacked already. But the new owners wanted to give him another chance instead. Despite spending a ton of money nothing changes...

[Igebotz]

I think the writing is on the wall as far as Ten Hag is concerned. It is just a matter of time before he is replaced and at least until a replacement can be found they will put Ruud van Nistelrooy as interim manager. If he does a good job he will probably be offered the job but is that the way forward for a club of that size and stature?

For some reason the rumours about Tuchel just do not go away.

Man, he's not going anywhere. Are you not aware that the club recently paid a whopping £200,000 to build a wall around the club's training facilities to prevent other managers from stealing/watching Erik tactics? I am not a fan of changing managers like nappies. I still believe he should be given more time to rebuild the squad, just as Arteta was after three years of mediocrity.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Yeah, there is still no change in his situation. I really can't believe he is still staying like nothing happened.    This is his 3rd year with the team and still no improvement at all. I believe if there wasn't any owner change then probably he would have got sacked already. But the new owners wanted to give him another chance instead. Despite spending a ton of money nothing changes...

The board has backed him and there's nothing changing about that anytime soon, you shouldn't blame them though for backing him because they see something we don't and he has won them 2 trophies in his last two years.

That's something they can work with and besides Man U, doesn't have a habit of sacking manager especially when they're winning them something, Chelsea on the other hand doesn't care if you win them the world, you're gone when you stop delivering.

Not a hater of ETH but I don't just think he's the man for the job at United to bring back their glory days. If they want to improve, they have to let go of him and bring in someone different.

He doesn't have good player management abilities or aren't we seeing how he has been having issues with one player after the other?.

[MrEazyLife]

We’ve seen how manchester city has dominated the EPL for the past few years now. It’s no doubt that many will consider manchester city as the supposed winner for the 2024/2025 EPL title. But then take a look at the challenges that many other top clubs in the EPL have taken since the start of the season. It’s going to be an intensive season. No club wasn’t to drop point. Liverpool, Chelsea, Aston villa, Arsenal, Tottenham, are all on another level this season and are all challenging for that title. The race is till on and I don’t see Manchester City winning the league this season. We might see this seasons EPL winner with goals outcome.

I think the writing is on the wall as far as Ten Hag is concerned. It is just a matter of time before he is replaced and at least until a replacement can be found they will put Ruud van Nistelrooy as interim manager. If he does a good job he will probably be offered the job but is that the way forward for a club of that size and stature?

For some reason the rumours about Tuchel just do not go away.

Man, he's not going anywhere. Are you not aware that the club recently paid a whopping £200,000 to build a wall around the club's training facilities to prevent other managers from stealing/watching Erik tactics? I am not a fan of changing managers like nappies. I still believe he should be given more time to rebuild the squad, just as Arteta was after three years of mediocrity.

Sounds funny how one could think because Man U training ground is expose, other managers comes to steal his tactics. Man that’s a big joke. So you mean all the opponents Man U faces in all
Competition comes to steal their tactics to enable them
Win? Man there’s more to that. At this moment United doesn’t even have a play pattern. No style of
Play. No depth in the midfield and the attacking lacks the ability for clinical finishing when they’re in front of goals. Ten hag has till the end of November to turn things around. If not ineos will be force to relieve him of his duties as the club manager.

[JollyGood]

If you are right, it will not be the first time you have proven to be correct and simultaneously not be the first time I am wrong  

Maybe he will be given more time, maybe at the end of the season Manchester United will have a secured a Champions League spot and also have a trophy under too (the FA Cup, Carabao Cup or Europa League) and that could give Ten Hag more time to get things right.

When you make the comparison with Arteta, there is one very interesting point apart from him being given time by the board as well as the fans. He had severe problems with Aubameyang and took drastic action including dropping him when he was late for training and the omitting him from a squad because of disciplinary reasons. I thought that they would struggle without him as he was their main goalscorer but Arteta showed getting him out helped make the squad closer.

The other was Ozil, when he dropped Ozil then omitted him from the Europa League it seemed as though that was a mistake considering how much they were paying him but that too proved a correct decision for the squad.

Arteta was given time and now he has made Arsenal Premier League winning contenders but Ten Hag has not raised the bar, he seems was out of his depth.

Man, he's not going anywhere. Are you not aware that the club recently paid a whopping £200,000 to build a wall around the club's training facilities to prevent other managers from stealing/watching Erik tactics? I am not a fan of changing managers like nappies. I still believe he should be given more time to rebuild the squad, just as Arteta was after three years of mediocrity.

[tokeweed]

Final decision in financial context - They will most likely try to get whichever player/replacement Pep wants, but they will not go under the knife if the price is not financially feasible to the club. Pep manages the tactical aspects of the game, while the recruitment team manages the financial aspects. 

Lucas Paquetá was one of the player Pep wanted but couldn't get his hands on him.

Looking forward to Slot vs Enzo tactical battle this weekend, a tough test for both managers. A must win game for us surely.

Ah yeah, taken in those kinds of circumstances, true true...    But the point is I think Guardiola and the recruiters, director of football or whoever are more gelled in compared to most other clubs.  I mean we've seen some flops in Guardiola's squad but it isn't as much as we've seen at, say, Man United.

There was one player in City who was a total flop...  It was a goal keeper.  I think his name was Claudio Bravo, correct me if I'm wrong as that might be a UFC fighter.  Lol.  But yeah, there was a year when they recruited him and he turned out to be a flop.  It was impressive that the club reacted asap and replaced him after just a year.  Most other clubs would take their time to fix the problem.

[JollyGood]

Still another nine days to go before the next Premier League games, how do you think these games will play out?

Tottenham Hotspur vs West Ham United
Fulham vs Aston Villa
Ipswich Town vs Everton
Manchester United vs Brentford
Newcastle United vs Brighton and Hove Albion
Southampton vs Leicester City
Bournemouth vs Arsenal

Manchester City play away at Wolves a day later and Liverpool also do not play their game against Chelsea until a day later therefore Arsenal have a chance to go top of the league.

[Distraction]

I think the writing is on the wall as far as Ten Hag is concerned. It is just a matter of time before he is replaced and at least until a replacement can be found they will put Ruud van Nistelrooy as interim manager. If he does a good job he will probably be offered the job but is that the way forward for a club of that size and stature?

For some reason the rumours about Tuchel just do not go away.

He continually says he isn't worried about getting sacked this season. They really haven't made a decision to sack him after the last meeting also. It comes to me as unbelievable but there is nothing to do. 

About van Nistelrooy, he doesn't have much experience yet I agree. But if they don't agree terms with a more experienced and successful manager then there is no other choice. When it comes to Tuchel, I like him. He is a really good tactician.

The board has backed him and there's nothing changing about that anytime soon, you shouldn't blame them though for backing him because they see something we don't and he has won them 2 trophies in his last two years.

That's something they can work with and besides Man U, doesn't have a habit of sacking manager especially when they're winning them something, Chelsea on the other hand doesn't care if you win them the world, you're gone when you stop delivering.

Not a hater of ETH but I don't just think he's the man for the job at United to bring back their glory days. If they want to improve, they have to let go of him and bring in someone different.

He doesn't have good player management abilities or aren't we seeing how he has been having issues with one player after the other?.

Yeah, he won trophies but I don't find that good enough anyway.    Because we are talking about the team that holds the most title record in the Premier League. A team with a great history...

Considering all this, I also don't find him good enough for this team. It is nothing personal for me too. But he just doesn't show anything good.