Police Raids and kids involving spider betting.

[South Park]

Wow so it isn't a joke right? So even spider could be used for a bets. But personally I don't want bet in a fight between animal or even insects it's very sad to see
Unfortunately yt is full of these creepy videos (fights between insects) likewise different species.
It sounds very strange and far away from my "habits" since in my country (Italy) the most that people do is fight between dogs. Nowadays this is a very rare form of business since most of time they get arrested and fighting dog just dies

At first I thought the same, to me it looked like a joke but it seems it is a thing in some other cultures and it is really sad, I understand the desire people have to gamble since I gamble as well from time to time but why do they have to choose this particular method? There are many gambling games that require almost no investment and that could give us a tremendous amount of fun without the need to hurt anyone and yet people go through the trouble of capturing spiders and then make them fight against each other.

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[Saint-loup]

Are there some way to guess if a spider will be strong or not?
How much does cost a good fighting spider generally?

It will depend on what type of spider it is usually spider tigers or just those small tiger that can fit in matchbox, in these season spiders we're too many now in my country that kids tends to take care them and use it in betting, commonly its only cost less than a dollar or less depending who plays it. Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Thank you for all those explanations Sir. But do you know if a spider is able to make several fights?
Is it like cock fighting where you can have champions winning plenty of matches?

[smyslov]

Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Kids today is different now, they want to try a lot of things and they are more aggressive thanks to the internet they learned a lot of things at an early stage, playing spiders used to be fun but now kids and adults are trying to make money out of it, these spiders are even sold in the internet they are breeding them and selling them.

[bisdak40]

Are there some way to guess if a spider will be strong or not?
How much does cost a good fighting spider generally?

It will depend on what type of spider it is usually spider tigers or just those small tiger that can fit in matchbox, in these season spiders we're too many now in my country that kids tends to take care them and use it in betting, commonly its only cost less than a dollar or less depending who plays it. Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Thank you for all those explanations Sir. But do you know if a spider is able to make several fights?
Is it like cock fighting where you can have champions winning plenty of matches?

Spiders are very different from that of a cock/bird because on my experience spiders are only good for one or two fights and they are not the same anymore and you may throw that one away while cocks can win 10x defending on how you take care of them but the good thing about spiders is that they are free you just need to search them in the woods.

[Ryker1]

Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Kids today is different now, they want to try a lot of things and they are more aggressive thanks to the internet they learned a lot of things at an early stage, playing spiders used to be fun but now kids and adults are trying to make money out of it, these spiders are even sold in the internet they are breeding them and selling them.

Well, kids are just a kid, they always wanted to thrill them because at that age stage, --they want to explore themselves those things they didn't know.
Now, the most concerned here why they raids by the police just because of the pandemic protocols that should be followed by everyone, avoid mass gathering that of course, --social distancing, all I mentioned above and through this gambling games will not follow the protocols that the government implemented amed pandemic. Honestly, I did not like spider fighting, the fact that the government strickly prohibited not to cath these wild spider, they are under protection in the wildlife protection.

[Saint-loup]

Are there some way to guess if a spider will be strong or not?
How much does cost a good fighting spider generally?

It will depend on what type of spider it is usually spider tigers or just those small tiger that can fit in matchbox, in these season spiders we're too many now in my country that kids tends to take care them and use it in betting, commonly its only cost less than a dollar or less depending who plays it. Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Thank you for all those explanations Sir. But do you know if a spider is able to make several fights?
Is it like cock fighting where you can have champions winning plenty of matches?

Spiders are very different from that of a cock/bird because on my experience spiders are only good for one or two fights and they are not the same anymore and you may throw that one away while cocks can win 10x defending on how you take care of them but the good thing about spiders is that they are free you just need to search them in the woods.

Thank you for these precisions.
Ok so it's a very special kind of betting, it's very hazardous as far as I understand. You can't really guess which is the strongest opponent before the start of the fight apparently. So it's more a gambling game than a betting game at the end...

[bisdak40]

Are there some way to guess if a spider will be strong or not?
How much does cost a good fighting spider generally?

It will depend on what type of spider it is usually spider tigers or just those small tiger that can fit in matchbox, in these season spiders we're too many now in my country that kids tends to take care them and use it in betting, commonly its only cost less than a dollar or less depending who plays it. Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Thank you for all those explanations Sir. But do you know if a spider is able to make several fights?
Is it like cock fighting where you can have champions winning plenty of matches?

Spiders are very different from that of a cock/bird because on my experience spiders are only good for one or two fights and they are not the same anymore and you may throw that one away while cocks can win 10x defending on how you take care of them but the good thing about spiders is that they are free you just need to search them in the woods.

Thank you for these precisions.
Ok so it's a very special kind of betting, it's very hazardous as far as I understand. You can't really guess which is the strongest opponent before the start of the fight apparently. So it's more a gambling game than a betting game at the end...

Right, you can't really tell the superior spider at the start specially if both of it has more or less of the same size unlike fighting cock where you can tell which one is on the advantage because you can tell the breed quality by merely looking at the cocks. Yeah, you are right, it's more of a gambling than a betting.

[FlightyPouch]

Thank you for these precisions.
Ok so it's a very special kind of betting, it's very hazardous as far as I understand. You can't really guess which is the strongest opponent before the start of the fight apparently. So it's more a gambling game than a betting game at the end...

As a kid growing, we never even thought about this as gambling since we are just having fun goingon mountain sides, hunting for these spiders. In our place, you show your spider and the other one will show a spider and you two will agree of they are match or not. We don't usually bet on it because if you lose, the spider that you hunt for hours will be the food of his.

[Janation]

Thank you for these precisions.
Ok so it's a very special kind of betting, it's very hazardous as far as I understand. You can't really guess which is the strongest opponent before the start of the fight apparently. So it's more a gambling game than a betting game at the end...

As a kid growing, we never even thought about this as gambling since we are just having fun goingon mountain sides, hunting for these spiders. In our place, you show your spider and the other one will show a spider and you two will agree of they are match or not. We don't usually bet on it because if you lose, the spider that you hunt for hours will be the food of his.

We usually bet on it.

We don't care what other people say at that time but when we do those matches, there are a lot of people surrounding us and when the spiders are unto it, the crowd are shouting. We even received  some punishment by cleaning because of the loudness of the matches. We bet on it but we didn't acutally got in trouble by betting on it but because of how we enjoy the match.

[maydna]

Before when I was a kid the only betting rules is who ever win will buy snacks or will just follow some winner orders.

Kids today is different now, they want to try a lot of things and they are more aggressive thanks to the internet they learned a lot of things at an early stage, playing spiders used to be fun but now kids and adults are trying to make money out of it, these spiders are even sold in the internet they are breeding them and selling them.

That is right. Somehow, kids can learn fast about something, and they can understand simple things without having a problem. That can make them can easily use something that we use too. And with the internet connection, they can borrow their parent's mobile phones to browse anything they want, and if the parents don't watch or supervise their kids, their kids can visit the unknown website, which can lead them to visit on the gambling or porn website. That is why we need to be serious about guarding our kids and not letting them know something they should not see in their ages.

[Pamadar]

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We usually bet on it.

We don't care what other people say at that time but when we do those matches, there are a lot of people surrounding us and when the spiders are unto it, the crowd are shouting. We even received  some punishment by cleaning because of the loudness of the matches. We bet on it but we didn't acutally got in trouble by betting on it but because of how we enjoy the match.

We bet in terms of those efforts or some times there's also prize when someone ask us to fight with their spider.
I uses to remember those early morning haunts, looking for trees that may be possible for spiders to build their house. Doing this
with cousins or friends really adds up the fun, plus those small amount of bets since from that time it's really not all for the money
but for the pride and the time that we spent chasing those spiders.
Sharing memories! but back to the topic it's annoying seeing this people wo deal with this in this time of pandemic.

[btc78]

Thank you for these precisions.
Ok so it's a very special kind of betting, it's very hazardous as far as I understand. You can't really guess which is the strongest opponent before the start of the fight apparently. So it's more a gambling game than a betting game at the end...

As a kid growing, we never even thought about this as gambling since we are just having fun goingon mountain sides, hunting for these spiders. In our place, you show your spider and the other one will show a spider and you two will agree of they are match or not. We don't usually bet on it because if you lose, the spider that you hunt for hours will be the food of his.

We usually bet on it.

We don't care what other people say at that time but when we do those matches, there are a lot of people surrounding us and when the spiders are unto it, the crowd are shouting. We even received  some punishment by cleaning because of the loudness of the matches. We bet on it but we didn't acutally got in trouble by betting on it but because of how we enjoy the match.

But not in our days now because of Physical distancing,yeah Spider gambling is enjoyable but this isd very much need to be close together
 since the Stick that where Spider fight is to small so people need to look closer together to find out the status of each fight.

Maybe after the Pandemic everything in gambling will back soon and not only local gambling like this but all
 the games involved in betting.

[k@suy]

Thank you for these precisions.
Ok so it's a very special kind of betting, it's very hazardous as far as I understand. You can't really guess which is the strongest opponent before the start of the fight apparently. So it's more a gambling game than a betting game at the end...

As a kid growing, we never even thought about this as gambling since we are just having fun goingon mountain sides, hunting for these spiders. In our place, you show your spider and the other one will show a spider and you two will agree of they are match or not. We don't usually bet on it because if you lose, the spider that you hunt for hours will be the food of his.

We usually bet on it.

We don't care what other people say at that time but when we do those matches, there are a lot of people surrounding us and when the spiders are unto it, the crowd are shouting. We even received  some punishment by cleaning because of the loudness of the matches. We bet on it but we didn't acutally got in trouble by betting on it but because of how we enjoy the match.

But not in our days now because of Physical distancing,yeah Spider gambling is enjoyable but this isd very much need to be close together
 since the Stick that where Spider fight is to small so people need to look closer together to find out the status of each fight.

Maybe after the Pandemic everything in gambling will back soon and not only local gambling like this but all
 the games involved in betting.

It is indeed sad because due to the pandemic a lot of people are looking for something to work on just to earn money for their needs and some people find gambling as an opportunity to earn money but what saddens me the most is about the kids who play gambling. I think their parents lack guidance and discipline that's why a lot of kids nowadays knows how to gamble even if they are still minors.

[Mauser]

It is indeed sad because due to the pandemic a lot of people are looking for something to work on just to earn money for their needs and some people find gambling as an opportunity to earn money but what saddens me the most is about the kids who play gambling. I think their parents lack guidance and discipline that's why a lot of kids nowadays knows how to gamble even if they are still minors.

I agree, the parents would probably do to something different with their money than having their kids gamble it all away. One good thing has it in my opinion, once the police kicks down the doors at your home, you will probably not forget it anymore. It might be a good way to scare them straight in the long run. Every time they gamble now they should be afraid of the police coming through the door again.

[erikoy]

I agree, the parents would probably do to something different with their money than having their kids gamble it all away. One good thing has it in my opinion, once the police kicks down the doors at your home, you will probably not forget it anymore. It might be a good way to scare them straight in the long run. Every time they gamble now they should be afraid of the police coming through the door again.

No not really, because these kids are aware that they are protected by law and by that they do not afraid anymore on the police getting caught. In fact some of them had tried out of curiosity and their parents had no idea of their activities until such they were called by the officers to settle the and submit their affidavit or explanation for their kids getting caught.

This is the new trend here and I think there is a need for the lawmakers to revise these law becase kids abuses this one already like they were already aware of everything that will going to happen on them and that they think that they are always safe with the law protecting them.

[AicecreaME]

I agree, the parents would probably do to something different with their money than having their kids gamble it all away. One good thing has it in my opinion, once the police kicks down the doors at your home, you will probably not forget it anymore. It might be a good way to scare them straight in the long run. Every time they gamble now they should be afraid of the police coming through the door again.

No not really, because these kids are aware that they are protected by law and by that they do not afraid anymore on the police getting caught. In fact some of them had tried out of curiosity and their parents had no idea of their activities until such they were called by the officers to settle the and submit their affidavit or explanation for their kids getting caught.

This is the new trend here and I think there is a need for the lawmakers to revise these law becase kids abuses this one already like they were already aware of everything that will going to happen on them and that they think that they are always safe with the law protecting them.

I agree.

That is why it is important that they have to pay for what they've done. It's more better if they will be in jail, not in jail in bilibid but a jail for minors, for sure that will teach them a lesson. Because if they are just going to be not guilty since they are still young, they will get more even unpredictable and might do something more scary than a simple spider betting.

[CODE200]

I have read before another betting being done amid with the pandemic which is cock fighting by adults and now spider betting by kids which practically shows how hard headed people are knowing that they are still abiding the law and doing violations that are against the set and implemented health protocols for we are still dealing with a deadly virus that still do not have any cure. At this point of time, it is the main responsibility of the parents to keep their kids to stay at home no matter what the reason is for here in our country, kids or those people aging 0-20 years old are not allowed to go outside because they are on the category of vulnerable individuals that might get caught acquiring the virus. Same with those 60+ ages. Spider fighting like this makes me think this one that the OP stated is being held on the Philippines which makes it more be on the parents to be responsible for children are not allowed to go anywhere and to just stay home due to quarantine. No matter what the reason is, the parents are the one who will take care of the full responsibility for kids are still young ages that must have full attention and patronage.

[target]

I have read before another betting being done amid with the pandemic which is cock fighting by adults and now spider betting by kids which practically shows how hard headed people are knowing that they are still abiding the law and doing violations that are against the set and implemented health protocols for we are still dealing with a deadly virus that still do not have any cure. At this point of time, it is the main responsibility of the parents to keep their kids to stay at home no matter what the reason is for here in our country, kids or those people aging 0-20 years old are not allowed to go outside because they are on the category of vulnerable individuals that might get caught acquiring the virus. Same with those 60+ ages. Spider fighting like this makes me think this one that the OP stated is being held on the Philippines which makes it more be on the parents to be responsible for children are not allowed to go anywhere and to just stay home due to quarantine. No matter what the reason is, the parents are the one who will take care of the full responsibility for kids are still young ages that must have full attention and patronage.

People already figured the pandemic wouldn't stop if they stop gathering though, it onlyu makes them worse in terms of putting food on the table.  Everyone goes out when there is no authorities watching. Spider or cock fighting will still continue as long as there is money to make specially in the remote areas where Covid isn't spreading quickly.  I'm not really sure where the spider fight is rampant these days all I know is that its being held regularly in rural areas. Not in the cities.
 

[Yamifoud]

I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Physical distancing might be a factor but most probably spider betting is not allowed and it is illegal as mandated by the environmental law.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

That is certainly a big problem and even the barangay leaders are playing and betting as well. They have supposed the one that should give a warned to them before it goes to the police but it was unlikely to happen.
This is a lesson to learn for the rest of the spider collectors and bettors. This will cause no good for them and better should stop it before someone gets into jail or better wait that it becomes legal.

[milewilda]

I think this is the matter of social gathering rather than the spider betting itself.

Physical distancing might be a factor but most probably spider betting is not allowed and it is illegal as mandated by the environmental law.

Unless gambling is banned in your place, I don't think spider betting is that bad. As a kid, we've been doing that for years and we don't have a problem with that to the authorities. The barangay captain of our place even joins with our fun by cheering with us. It is just we are hard-headed and loves letting these spiders fight, that is just it.

That is certainly a big problem and even the barangay leaders are playing and betting as well. They have supposed the one that should give a warned to them before it goes to the police but it was unlikely to happen.
This is a lesson to learn for the rest of the spider collectors and bettors. This will cause no good for them and better stop it before someone gets into jail or better wait that it becomes legal.

Then how you do consider for those people who do play or bet with those cockfights? Is it still in inclusion of that environmental law? I havent heard of that they do get attached to this issue about spiders when it comes on being collected yet we know that there are lots of species of spiders which arent endangered so i dont really the involvement about environmental laws or whatsoever.
Next thing about those people who should really impose the restriction and law are the ones who do get involved too that why these activities cant really be get rid completely due to that reason.People are naturally hard
headed when it comes to gambling if they do like to bet or do engage with it then they would push through inspite of the warnings given.