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[cryptoperkele]

Betfury admins, if you are listening: I had an idea about betfury tokenomics after the mining is done.

How about using some of the profits for buyback directly from the markets? Half of the bought tokens would be shared back to players as mining rewards and half of tokens would be burned.

Not only this would add some continuity in mining, but it would also make sure that players had enough incentives to play after the direct mining is over. Also that would lower the total token supply making the token more valuable.

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[hulla]

I think Betfury have everything under control, and they will do it their way, which can be better than anything we have seen before!

They may have everything under control but the traded token they are going to create will be use mostly by the public so they still need to consider public opinion in other for them to create a token that will be widely accepted/trusted by gamblers or else they will just create a token that wont be up to the impression of the public. This is what ETH team used to caught the attention of the public to ETH2.0

I don't know if the team is in contacts with top exchanges like Binance

Yes, I confirm that it was listed and traded already on Binance and the others exchange mentioned.

I think you misunderstood. I was actually referring to the Betfury team and not the other casino.

Oh ok.

[kolesozw]

Anyone had issues with betfury.io today or this morning? At first whole page was kinda laggy, that I could not click All Games button (or I clicked it, but it did not redirect to list of games). Then I've noticed my account progress did not grow (wagering where not counting, even though I was playing with BTC and ETH). The issue was not with my internet connection, as test showed that upload/download speed are as promised by internet provider.

I had issues, but now everything seems to be okay.

BetFury was doing an update from what I read, expanding the site, and there were some minor issues in the functionality.

[delfastTions]

It's great that devs got the license!
 Of course, this increases the status of the gaming platform.  But for me it is obvious that the rejection of KYC is, on the one hand, wonderful for a large number of players (and I always support the devs 'efforts to keep players' privacy as much as possible), but at some point in time and in certain jurisdictions it will probably be necessary to introduce KYC.
  In addition, BFG token, like all tokens in cryptocurrencies, will also have to somehow be declared to the regulators.  But let's hope that devs will cope with these tasks.

Imho people should just assume that they will have eventually to deal with KYC because running for regulators is just avoiding inevitable. We have been in a wild west so long now that we are forgetting that if we want crypto global adoption it comes with regulations.

Anonymity is a great thing in a person's life.  
Understandably, many want to remain anonymous for many reasons.  For example, there is a society of Alcoholics Anonymous.  But unfortunately this opportunity is gradually leaving the Internet in general and from the crypt too.  And there is always a dilemma whether to use the site and disclose your data or not to use it.  Google and MS and other whales also succeeded here.  For example, SMS confirmation, this is a full disclosure of your data (mobile phone number).
With regard to this project, then, most likely, you will still have to go through the KYC/AML sooner or later.  Otherwise, they will not be allowed to work normally.  
Lovely days of cryptopunks are now in the past.  Alas!

[cryptoperkele]

Anonymity is a great thing in a person's life.  
Understandably, many want to remain anonymous for many reasons.  For example, there is a society of Alcoholics Anonymous.  But unfortunately this opportunity is gradually leaving the Internet in general and from the crypt too.  And there is always a dilemma whether to use the site and disclose your data or not to use it.  Google and MS and other whales also succeeded here.  For example, SMS confirmation, this is a full disclosure of your data (mobile phone number).
With regard to this project, then, most likely, you will still have to go through the KYC/AML sooner or later.  Otherwise, they will not be allowed to work normally.  
Lovely days of cryptopunks are now in the past.  Alas!

Confidentiality however is very different from anonymity, possibility of someone leaking information exists in AA too. And as we leave tx tracks in an open blockchain, currently we have just pseudonymity at best.

But i agree that in the world where identity thefts are a thing, disclosing your ID just to anyone is dangerous and we should use common sense on where we give our ID to and why. I am pretty sure that my ID has been already stolen though.

[robelneo]

Anyone noticing this there's a time where only a few players doing the auction, sometimes it only took 50 BFG Token to make the top spot in the auction I am tempted to participate but I want to keep my BFG token because I know there's a possibility that there will be a huge demand in the market when they decide to get it in the market, and besides I want my stakes to remain.

[Manager BetFury]

Anyone had issues with betfury.io today or this morning? At first whole page was kinda laggy, that I could not click All Games button (or I clicked it, but it did not redirect to list of games). Then I've noticed my account progress did not grow (wagering where not counting, even though I was playing with BTC and ETH). The issue was not with my internet connection, as test showed that upload/download speed are as promised by internet provider.

I had the same thing today, but this happens sometimes on Betfury. Also, when I am playing a game, I sometimes get redericted to the home page again, which is very annoying.

During the next 6 weeks, Betfury will add every week a new slots providers.; they just added Onetouch.
The others they will add are Microgaming, iSofbet, ThunderKick, Relax gaming and NetEnt.

@Betfury, are you also planning to add Betsoft as slot provider?

We are working to add all the TOP providers in the near future for a comfortable and fun pastime on the BetFury site  

[cabron]

I would like to know if Betfury, when obtaining the license, means that after that, due to international regulations they will implement the prohibited countries? Many casinos after getting it require that standard, will Betfury remain open to all countries?

Here you go, from this statement they will provide or published information about this after acquiring the license, it will be a formal statement about the restriction that may happened after this action, readers and participant needs to know about it to avoid certain confusion after this changes that may take place.

Regarding the obtaining of Curacao Gaming License, access to the BetFury site will be restricted for some countries. We will notify users of the list of countries shortly. ⚠️ All users accounts and mined BFG tokens will be saved! We are also actively working on listing the BFG token on the exchange so that users will have the opportunity to withdraw and trade it. All statements about restricted countries and the future of BFG token will be published in the official BetFury channels and on the website.

Will you give chance to withdraw the tokens of the users who will soon be blocked because they are from the restricted countries? I could just be one. I was just trying to play every day since you guys are airdropping coins and then I have accumulated some BFGs. Maybe I could sell it or still hold it on the tronlink wallet to receive dividends, this is how it works right?

[efialtis]

I would like to know if Betfury, when obtaining the license, means that after that, due to international regulations they will implement the prohibited countries? Many casinos after getting it require that standard, will Betfury remain open to all countries?

Here you go, from this statement they will provide or published information about this after acquiring the license, it will be a formal statement about the restriction that may happened after this action, readers and participant needs to know about it to avoid certain confusion after this changes that may take place.

Regarding the obtaining of Curacao Gaming License, access to the BetFury site will be restricted for some countries. We will notify users of the list of countries shortly. ⚠️ All users accounts and mined BFG tokens will be saved! We are also actively working on listing the BFG token on the exchange so that users will have the opportunity to withdraw and trade it. All statements about restricted countries and the future of BFG token will be published in the official BetFury channels and on the website.

Will you give chance to withdraw the tokens of the users who will soon be blocked because they are from the restricted countries? I could just be one. I was just trying to play every day since you guys are airdropping coins and then I have accumulated some BFGs. Maybe I could sell it or still hold it on the tronlink wallet to receive dividends, this is how it works right?

This has been answered by them before - yes, you will be given a chance to "work" with your BFG tokens.

For some reason I passed on BetFury for a long time until a few months ago, when a friend talked to me about them. I gave them a shot and I can tell that I have been pleased by their offering so far. We could discuss the license thing for hours and how valuable (or not) it is that they have finally gotten one but let`s not.

Game selection is "okay" and I am very happy that more reputable gaming providers will be added in upcoming weeks. Their cashback is pretty nice, too. What I am not too happy about is the way their support works. I had some minor issues 1-2 times and contacted their live support just to be told that I would have to join their telegram and get in touch with one of their admins - honestly, a live support is supposed to support (literally) and not to forward people elsewhere. Having worked in strategic customer service for years, I like to think that this is not the way it should be and BetFury should improve in that space.

[cryptoperkele]

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 What I am not too happy about is the way their support works. I had some minor issues 1-2 times and contacted their live support just to be told that I would have to join their telegram and get in touch with one of their admins - honestly, a live support is supposed to support (literally) and not to forward people elsewhere. Having worked in strategic customer service for years, I like to think that this is not the way it should be and BetFury should improve in that space.

May i ask what kind issues you were having and how did they handle it in the end? Did the issue got solved? So far only issue i had was an error in my end and everything has worked perfectly fine so i don't have a clue what i should be expecting when i get problems.

[delfastTions]

Devs, as we all understand here, are quite professionally engaged in the development of their project.  Obviously, the more they attract users, players, the more stable and larger their business will be.  In this regard, a special way of encouraging players is of course the distribution of tokens and the subsequent opportunity to use them.  And here devs should not allow players to be disappointed in the size of these payments.  That is, they cannot be greatly reduced.  It is worth noting that it is on this method, for example, that Freebitcoin casino has developed evolved so much, that it already occupies the third place in the world ranking.  If devs will not change muchcan  incentive payments much, they will also be able to take their rightful place in this ranking.

[babygun]

Anyone noticing this there's a time where only a few players doing the auction, sometimes it only took 50 BFG Token to make the top spot in the auction I am tempted to participate but I want to keep my BFG token because I know there's a possibility that there will be a huge demand in the market when they decide to get it in the market, and besides I want my stakes to remain.

I sometimes play on the auction, but only use the BFG(TRX) tokens to bet. It can be interesting from time to time, sometimes you only need to bet 1 -2 tokens and win between 0.3 and 2 TRX. In other moments, the auctions can go up very high and people bet sometimes over 1000 tokens just to win a share of the prize pool.

We are working to add all the TOP providers in the near future for a comfortable and fun pastime on the BetFury site 

Great, looking forward to that!

[Yogee]

I don't remember anyone talked about Freebitco.in's FUN token. I found out about it while I was browsing the services section yesterday. When did you learn about the token and when did you write? For sure Betfury will do it their way but there's nothing wrong if they study what others who have done it before them.

Here it is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.520

You mean this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.msg56011306#msg56011306?
That link redirects to the first post of the page only.

Fun token is a different concept! You need to buy/invest in FunToken and as a holder you will have some benefits from that! On the other side, Betfury (and some older casinos I have mentioned in my comment in the link) is a place where you gamble, and you earn BFG tokens by wagering a certain amount (you can check the current price on the site).

We are talking about two different things. In my post [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.msg56247271#msg56247271], I was suggesting that Betfury monitor how the FUN token will perform in the open market since there is also a plan to merge the two BFG tokens and list it on public exchanges. It's not about the token's features and functionality.

[Fredomago]

Devs, as we all understand here, are quite professionally engaged in the development of their project.  Obviously, the more they attract users, players, the more stable and larger their business will be.  In this regard, a special way of encouraging players is of course the distribution of tokens and the subsequent opportunity to use them.  And here devs should not allow players to be disappointed in the size of these payments.  That is, they cannot be greatly reduced.  It is worth noting that it is on this method, for example, that Freebitcoin casino has developed evolved so much, that it already occupies the third place in the world ranking.  If devs will not change muchcan  incentive payments much, they will also be able to take their rightful place in this ranking.

Supporters and investors are very important, satisfying them by means of incentives that won't affect that much in terms of assets value will encourage them to keep coming and keep following the project.

Devs needs to balance both side, if they are capable of bringing more interesting offers that allows investors to earned and be satisfied from thier share without affecting the development progress of this token it will be a good relationship between invetors and developers which will also attract more people to participate.

[efialtis]

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 What I am not too happy about is the way their support works. I had some minor issues 1-2 times and contacted their live support just to be told that I would have to join their telegram and get in touch with one of their admins - honestly, a live support is supposed to support (literally) and not to forward people elsewhere. Having worked in strategic customer service for years, I like to think that this is not the way it should be and BetFury should improve in that space.

May i ask what kind issues you were having and how did they handle it in the end? Did the issue got solved? So far only issue i had was an error in my end and everything has worked perfectly fine so i don't have a clue what i should be expecting when i get problems.

Was some issue with an ETH withdrawal - pretty strange but it was sorted out after a couple of hours - not great but at least sorted with a massive 100 TRX bonus for the inconvenience/delay.

Speaking of support though, I need to follow up - turns out there was another issue yesterday and one I haven`t experienced in all my years ever. In a few words, I was charged for slots bonus buys that literally never happened due to their platform having a problem while trying to do those buys (clicking buy, having been logged out, logging back in, showing old balance so doing the same etc.). Then, after 3rd try, the buy finally worked but guess what - the previous buys were deducted even though they never happened. Checked the game history and yep, 2 buys that just never paid out. Not sure why this happened but fact is that I had to get in touch with their support again.

Once again via Telegram, contacting one of their admins, providing various screenshots, including game history with json - now this is not a rocket science, the screenshot clearly shows those buys never actually took place and when you also have the json, you just get in touch with the provider (in case the problem wasn`t on your end) and ideally refund the player.

Status quo: Close to 24 hours passed, money still missing, no support ticket or anything, just the conversation via Telegram with the admin. This really isn`t good enough.

[babygun]

Was some issue with an ETH withdrawal - pretty strange but it was sorted out after a couple of hours - not great but at least sorted with a massive 100 TRX bonus for the inconvenience/delay.

Speaking of support though, I need to follow up - turns out there was another issue yesterday and one I haven`t experienced in all my years ever. In a few words, I was charged for slots bonus buys that literally never happened due to their platform having a problem while trying to do those buys (clicking buy, having been logged out, logging back in, showing old balance so doing the same etc.). Then, after 3rd try, the buy finally worked but guess what - the previous buys were deducted even though they never happened. Checked the game history and yep, 2 buys that just never paid out. Not sure why this happened but fact is that I had to get in touch with their support again.

Once again via Telegram, contacting one of their admins, providing various screenshots, including game history with json - now this is not a rocket science, the screenshot clearly shows those buys never actually took place and when you also have the json, you just get in touch with the provider (in case the problem wasn`t on your end) and ideally refund the player.

Status quo: Close to 24 hours passed, money still missing, no support ticket or anything, just the conversation via Telegram with the admin. This really isn`t good enough.

Hopefully it will get resolved soon, keep us updated Efi! Only contacted their support a couple of times for standard questions (no issues) and all questions were answered in the chat. As you mention: what's the use of offering a chat if you need to solve issues with Telegram? I don't like Telegram and I am pretty sure that a lot of members also don't like/use telegram...

[robelneo]

Was some issue with an ETH withdrawal - pretty strange but it was sorted out after a couple of hours - not great but at least sorted with a massive 100 TRX bonus for the inconvenience/delay.

Speaking of support though, I need to follow up - turns out there was another issue yesterday and one I haven`t experienced in all my years ever. In a few words, I was charged for slots bonus buys that literally never happened due to their platform having a problem while trying to do those buys (clicking buy, having been logged out, logging back in, showing old balance so doing the same etc.). Then, after 3rd try, the buy finally worked but guess what - the previous buys were deducted even though they never happened. Checked the game history and yep, 2 buys that just never paid out. Not sure why this happened but fact is that I had to get in touch with their support again.

Once again via Telegram, contacting one of their admins, providing various screenshots, including game history with json - now this is not a rocket science, the screenshot clearly shows those buys never actually took place and when you also have the json, you just get in touch with the provider (in case the problem wasn`t on your end) and ideally refund the player.

Status quo: Close to 24 hours passed, money still missing, no support ticket or anything, just the conversation via Telegram with the admin. This really isn`t good enough.

Hopefully it will get resolved soon, keep us updated Efi! Only contacted their support a couple of times for standard questions (no issues) and all questions were answered in the chat. As you mention: what's the use of offering a chat if you need to solve issues with Telegram? I don't like Telegram and I am pretty sure that a lot of members also don't like/use telegram...

I made a withdrawal to test, my last one was a week ago my withdrawal is on Bitcoin hopefully I will not encounter any issue on withdrawal, the one thing that supports should see to it is the process of withdrawal, if the system says that your withdrawal will process in this length of time, it should come, I hope Efi's issue will be resolve and everything will be well so the community will have no doubt about Betfury.

[onecall123]

^ Was some issue with TRX withdrawal. I have made small withdrawal as test purpose. I have used trust tron wallet for getting my withdrawals but later I got nothing. After reaching their supports, I came to know my wallet doesn't accept transactions on smart contracts. Ones weeks later made a BTC withdrawal and did not encounter any issue. Here's my experience at BetFury withdrawals.

[Renampun]

^ Was some issue with TRX withdrawal. I have made small withdrawal as test purpose. I have used trust tron wallet for getting my withdrawals but later I got nothing. After reaching their supports, I came to know my wallet doesn't accept transactions on smart contracts. Ones weeks later made a BTC withdrawal and did not encounter any issue. Here's my experience at BetFury withdrawals.

*Is the wallet you use when WD Tron is a trust-wallet...
I have never used trust-wallet when doing WD TRON or BTT, what I use is the Exodus wallet and have not encountered any problems so far.

[robelneo]

^ Was some issue with TRX withdrawal. I have made small withdrawal as test purpose. I have used trust tron wallet for getting my withdrawals but later I got nothing. After reaching their supports, I came to know my wallet doesn't accept transactions on smart contracts. Ones weeks later made a BTC withdrawal and did not encounter any issue. Here's my experience at BetFury withdrawals.

Well things are working fine in their withdrawal, I just made a withdrawal hours ago and got it in my wallet, I thought it will come 5 to 10 hours but it landed 3 hours even though I choose the slow option, we have nothing to worry about, there's no issue on withdrawal all are processed.