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[Cointxz]

Be sure that someone is regularly monitoring this thread as well as some other parts of the forum, and if help or mediation between the user and the casino is necessary, we are here.
So, even if we don't write public posts, we are still present.

I don't know why their team decided to go silent... Maybe it's just me, but I think their issues are not so big, and they could have handled things better...

Do you have a specific case in mind? We may have overlooked it.

He probably meant this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5588925.0

There’s a user that run a test on the fairness of your house games and it shows that the RTP advertised doesn’t match to the actual RTP of the game.

He done a well documented experiment that shows substantial evidence on his claim. Maybe you should use telegram bot notifier so that you will be aware when someone mentioned you for a case or issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248878.0

[iv4n]

He probably meant this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5588925.0

There’s a user that run a test on the fairness of your house games and it shows that the RTP advertised doesn’t match to the actual RTP of the game.

You remembered well. To be honest, I forgot about that one... and this topic is maybe more important than some other stuff.

Be sure that someone is regularly monitoring this thread as well as some other parts of the forum, and if help or mediation between the user and the casino is necessary, we are here.
So, even if we don't write public posts, we are still present.

That's nice...

I don't know why their team decided to go silent... Maybe it's just me, but I think their issues are not so big, and they could have handled things better...

Do you have a specific case in mind? We may have overlooked it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.msg67005691#msg67005691

A kind word can make a difference... As a player, I know that sometimes a kind word & simple explanation can go a long way. It shows you are listening and that you are here... Silence & AI/robotic answers can be very annoying.

Even with Godzill5 case... Shit happens, but it's resolved, and you could close it with an apology & few more words about it.

...

i feel like KYC on betfury is a hit or miss. i have been playing here on and off for a little bit shy of 2 years without them ever asking for KYC, and i have taken advantage of every free promo or +EV promos, while some others i have seen get asked KYC for a $20 widthraw.

Since you said it, I feel it's "hit or miss" in every crypto casino...

btw @iv4n do you still have any BFG staked?

A few dollars... I burned them all! I burned more BFG tokens than Betfury. Just joking, but I had a lot of tokens at times, but, but... I guess it's the old story: I wanted a bit more...

[BetFury.com]

I don't know why their team decided to go silent... Maybe it's just me, but I think their issues are not so big, and they could have handled things better...

Do you have a specific case in mind? We may have overlooked it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.msg67005691#msg67005691

A kind word can make a difference... As a player, I know that sometimes a kind word & simple explanation can go a long way. It shows you are listening and that you are here... Silence & AI/robotic answers can be very annoying.

Unfortunately, in the case you mention, I can help very little on this side. It is a matter of casino policy, and decisions such as KYC triggers are made at a higher level.
You should consider it as one of the rules of the casino, whether you agree or not.

Even with Godzill5 case... Shit happens, but it's resolved, and you could close it with an apology & few more words about it.

There were cases where some members got involved and perhaps influenced their resolution. As long as all the cases are solved, there is no special need for additional explanation. It is also okay if other members take glory for their mediation.
The primary thing is that there are no open cases against BetFury, and that is the current status.

[dwyane36]

btw @iv4n do you still have any BFG staked?

A few dollars... I burned them all! I burned more BFG tokens than Betfury. Just joking, but I had a lot of tokens at times, but, but... I guess it's the old story: I wanted a bit more...

I'm wondering how many real users are left who are still holding and staking BFG on the Betfury platform. After all, looking at the BFG chart, it seems extremely unprofitable, given that the BFG token price has been falling for over two years now, and the last 12 months have been nothing but red monthly candles.

[TopTort777]

I used to hold them when I had goal to use daily staking reward to get rich (played all in all the time until win a lot) No matter how many BFG I had, their value were always around 30 bucks. Cashback, wheel spins and other rewards for years were increasing number of BFG staked, but the value was never more than 30 bucks. The last straw was when daily staking started to bring less than 1 cent daily. I have gambled everything and quit

[Davidvictorson]

Unfortunately, in the case you mention, I can help very little on this side. It is a matter of casino policy, and decisions such as KYC triggers are made at a higher level.
You should consider it as one of the rules of the casino, whether you agree or not.

I followed this closely and I would say that I understand
Most times the KYC decisions are not left to the casino reps . It is a system that has already been put in place and can be triggered based on certain suspicious activities by players.
In any case casino players should have this in mind that it can be required at anytime. More importantly they should always read the TOS for things like this.

[Rruchi man]

You should consider it as one of the rules of the casino,

If people start reading more about the TOS of a casino, more people will click "rejection" on the TOS of using a casino than accept blindly because the moment you click that you agree to the TOS that you've been shown by a casino, it means that you agree to whatever rule that the casino brings forward. This is why you should always go through casino rules and TOS instead of accepting them blindly.

whether you agree or not.

There is no "or not" as soon as you click acceptance on a casino's TOS, even if you don't read it. Your failure to read it is not the casino's fault unless the casino intentionally made the TOS unreadable.

[dwyane36]

I used to hold them when I had goal to use daily staking reward to get rich (played all in all the time until win a lot) No matter how many BFG I had, their value were always around 30 bucks. Cashback, wheel spins and other rewards for years were increasing number of BFG staked, but the value was never more than 30 bucks. The last straw was when daily staking started to bring less than 1 cent daily. I have gambled everything and quit

Well, you did the right thing by deciding to leave. At first, BFG staking on their platform might have seemed promising, but the lack of any improvements, listings on top exchanges, and, consequently, the lack of demand and volatility led to the BFG price falling much faster than the profits this token generated from staking.

[Unsoldier]

I used to hold them when I had goal to use daily staking reward to get rich (played all in all the time until win a lot) No matter how many BFG I had, their value were always around 30 bucks. Cashback, wheel spins and other rewards for years were increasing number of BFG staked, but the value was never more than 30 bucks. The last straw was when daily staking started to bring less than 1 cent daily. I have gambled everything and quit

Well, you did the right thing by deciding to leave. At first, BFG staking on their platform might have seemed promising, but the lack of any improvements, listings on top exchanges, and, consequently, the lack of demand and volatility led to the BFG price falling much faster than the profits this token generated from staking.

Over the past year, BFG has lost about 75% of its value, and the current staking rewards for the coin come nowhere near compensating holders for their losses. I have a certain amount of coins staked on BetFury, and it makes me sad to see how much they are worth right now—I don't even try to calculate their value anymore. The only thing that cheers me up is that I didn't spend any money on my BFG. I earned these coins through a signature campaign, investing nothing but my time.

[Ruttoshi]

Well, you did the right thing by deciding to leave. At first, BFG staking on their platform might have seemed promising, but the lack of any improvements, listings on top exchanges, and, consequently, the lack of demand and volatility led to the BFG price falling much faster than the profits this token generated from staking.

It's always difficult for casino token to survive in the long run and increase in value at the same time because the casino will only be focused on one thing at a time which is either the casino or the token.

BGF is only used in BetFury casino and I don't think that anyone outside the casino or that's not using the casino will open his eyes to buy  BGF because it's not popular yet. Was BGF used to pay you as your camping stipends.

[Zwei]

btw @iv4n do you still have any BFG staked?

A few dollars... I burned them all! I burned more BFG tokens than Betfury. Just joking, but I had a lot of tokens at times, but, but... I guess it's the old story: I wanted a bit more...

maybe it was for the better, looking at the price right now, hehehe

i'm kinda glad i sold all the tokens i had before the price tanked even more, in hindsight it was the right call.
i mean, who would like getting 25% APY on their tokens, but the price drops triple that in a year.

The last straw was when daily staking started to bring less than 1 cent daily. I have gambled everything and quit

lots of people on betfury are still in denial. i remember last year the staking pool, where rewards are paid from, was around $800k, and $25k or so would be paid daily. now it's around $300k with $8k~$11k paid daily, and it's only going down.

[TopTort777]

I remember they had daily battles, but they it seems that they have weekly, monthly or longer period battles. Do they still run rank 1 daily wagering tournament with real rewards? That tournament where you gamble with their free tokens? Do they still run thematical events with big prizes? Such as Xmas, Easter, Halloween ? I remember I saw they had an update and added missions. Is this daily task rebrand?

[iv4n]

i'm kinda glad i sold all the tokens i had before the price tanked even more, in hindsight it was the right call.
i mean, who would like getting 25% APY on their tokens, but the price drops triple that in a year.

Can it go lower?

BFG Token (BFG) reached an all-time high of $0.03781 and an all-time low of $0.004368. It’s now trading 88.41% below that peak.

Free fall for the past 3 years, and I can't say I see anything that could change the course...

I remember they had daily battles, but they it seems that they have weekly, monthly or longer period battles. Do they still run rank 1 daily wagering tournament with real rewards? That tournament where you gamble with their free tokens? Do they still run thematical events with big prizes? Such as Xmas, Easter, Halloween ? I remember I saw they had an update and added missions. Is this daily task rebrand?

I remember their BetFury 10-week promotion managed by Royse... that was something, probably one of the best promotions we ever had on the forum. I would like to see that again...

[dwyane36]

i'm kinda glad i sold all the tokens i had before the price tanked even more, in hindsight it was the right call.
i mean, who would like getting 25% APY on their tokens, but the price drops triple that in a year.

Can it go lower?

BFG could easily fall even lower if nothing changes. Based on data from CMC, the current market cap is only $4.9 mln, and it would seem like that’s already rock bottom, but it’s not. As users continue to sell off their BFG, the price will keep falling lower and lower. I suppose that, in this case, a drop in market cap to $2 million or even $1 million is only a matter of time.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

BFG could easily fall even lower if nothing changes. Based on data from CMC, the current market cap is only $4.9 mln, and it would seem like that’s already rock bottom, but it’s not. As users continue to sell off their BFG, the price will keep falling lower and lower. I suppose that, in this case, a drop in market cap to $2 million or even $1 million is only a matter of time.

If there is new token unlock, there is new selling pressure, the price will keep falling because selling demand will be bigger and dominant against buying pressure. Until there is a tokenomics revamp on BFG as well as further developments for the token utility, diversification of the token use cases, it's almost impossible for BFG token to hold this price, not yet recover and make higher highs.

It's very common severe problem with tokens that have too inflationary tokenomics. Even projects that are ready and have mechanisms for buy back and burn their tokens, it won't help their token prices too much.

[Rruchi man]

I used to hold them when I had goal to use daily staking reward to get rich (played all in all the time until win a lot) No matter how many BFG I had, their value were always around 30 bucks. Cashback, wheel spins and other rewards for years were increasing number of BFG staked, but the value was never more than 30 bucks. The last straw was when daily staking started to bring less than 1 cent daily. I have gambled everything and quit

Well, you did the right thing by deciding to leave. At first, BFG staking on their platform might have seemed promising, but the lack of any improvements, listings on top exchanges, and, consequently, the lack of demand and volatility led to the BFG price falling much faster than the profits this token generated from staking.

The value of BFG sits at a very depressed position and is not encouraging at all, to say the truth. I don't think the Betfury team is ignoring the token, just not prioritizing the token enough to try and boost its value because simple approaches can help increase the value of the BFG token from where it currently is, and one very good way is listing on a top exchange or exchanges. I have not seen anywhere where the Betfury team exclusively mentioned that they have no interest in listing on top exchanges, and this is something that they can do, and if they are not putting their energy there to make it happen, it could be that their focus is elsewhere, most likely on the casino business, which is their major business.

[Zwei]

i'm kinda glad i sold all the tokens i had before the price tanked even more, in hindsight it was the right call.
i mean, who would like getting 25% APY on their tokens, but the price drops triple that in a year.

Can it go lower?

BFG Token (BFG) reached an all-time high of $0.03781 and an all-time low of $0.004368. It’s now trading 88.41% below that peak.

Free fall for the past 3 years, and I can't say I see anything that could change the course...

the token has no future as long as betfury doesn't do something to increase the demand for it. right now, give it a year or so, and another zero will be added to the price.

imo, i think they should remove BFG staking, and stop giving BFG as rewards for everything. maybe add a lottery with some kind of burn mechanism, or make it so players get increased cashback if they play with BFG or something like that... i mean, do something to at least try to make people use the token, instead of just ignoring it.

I remember their BetFury 10-week promotion managed by Royse... that was something, probably one of the best promotions we ever had on the forum. I would like to see that again...

i agree, but i don't think they will bring them back since not many people joined then, so it wasn't worth the money they spent on prizes. those promotion were easy money because of that tho 

[dwyane36]

The value of BFG sits at a very depressed position and is not encouraging at all, to say the truth. I don't think the Betfury team is ignoring the token, just not prioritizing the token enough to try and boost its value because simple approaches can help increase the value of the BFG token from where it currently is, and one very good way is listing on a top exchange or exchanges. I have not seen anywhere where the Betfury team exclusively mentioned that they have no interest in listing on top exchanges, and this is something that they can do, and if they are not putting their energy there to make it happen, it could be that their focus is elsewhere, most likely on the casino business, which is their major business.

A long time ago, when they were just starting out, they had plans to list the BFG token on top centralized exchanges, including Binance. Their representative actually mentioned this in this thread, along with the fact that they planned to make it into the top 100 on CMC. But as it turned out, these were just words, or perhaps just their dreams, since, in the end, Betfury failed to achieve any of this. As for the listing, it’s worth noting that over the entire period, there were only a few attempts on some minor exchanges, and that's it.

[Rruchi man]

The value of BFG sits at a very depressed position and is not encouraging at all, to say the truth. I don't think the Betfury team is ignoring the token, just not prioritizing the token enough to try and boost its value because simple approaches can help increase the value of the BFG token from where it currently is, and one very good way is listing on a top exchange or exchanges. I have not seen anywhere where the Betfury team exclusively mentioned that they have no interest in listing on top exchanges, and this is something that they can do, and if they are not putting their energy there to make it happen, it could be that their focus is elsewhere, most likely on the casino business, which is their major business.

A long time ago, when they were just starting out, they had plans to list the BFG token on top centralized exchanges, including Binance. Their representative actually mentioned this in this thread, along with the fact that they planned to make it into the top 100 on CMC. But as it turned out, these were just words, or perhaps just their dreams, since, in the end, Betfury failed to achieve any of this. As for the listing, it’s worth noting that over the entire period, there were only a few attempts on some minor exchanges, and that's it.

Do you think gamblers will again trust Betfury casino on BFG if they come out to say again that they have not abandoned plans to get BFG listed on a top exchange?

Can hype and such news help the token gain some value, or does the Betfury team need to actually just go ahead and get it listed to again get attention on the token? That is what should be done.

[Taskford]

The value of BFG sits at a very depressed position and is not encouraging at all, to say the truth. I don't think the Betfury team is ignoring the token, just not prioritizing the token enough to try and boost its value because simple approaches can help increase the value of the BFG token from where it currently is, and one very good way is listing on a top exchange or exchanges. I have not seen anywhere where the Betfury team exclusively mentioned that they have no interest in listing on top exchanges, and this is something that they can do, and if they are not putting their energy there to make it happen, it could be that their focus is elsewhere, most likely on the casino business, which is their major business.

A long time ago, when they were just starting out, they had plans to list the BFG token on top centralized exchanges, including Binance. Their representative actually mentioned this in this thread, along with the fact that they planned to make it into the top 100 on CMC. But as it turned out, these were just words, or perhaps just their dreams, since, in the end, Betfury failed to achieve any of this. As for the listing, it’s worth noting that over the entire period, there were only a few attempts on some minor exchanges, and that's it.

Do you think gamblers will again trust Betfury casino on BFG if they come out to say again that they have not abandoned plans to get BFG listed on a top exchange?

Can hype and such news help the token gain some value, or does the Betfury team need to actually just go ahead and get it listed to again get attention on the token? That is what should be done.

I think its not really helping if they just talk about it, since they already made that statement before and yet nothing happen.

For sure that people right now are waiting for that to happen, before they believe on those statements again.

But it seems its hard to make that situation happen. Since maybe people already lost their hopes to see BFG being listed on top exchange knowing its condition now. Betfury team really need to do something with this and this is tough job knowing that their token is not in best situation now.