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September 18, 2020, 06:36:13 AM
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Bounty detectives were one of the most liked campaign managers in the BCT forum. It's really sad to see that they got scammed but, again that's the game in crypto because in every 10 projects 8 are turned out to be scams or dead projects.
I participate in almost every project of Bounty Detective; Most of their projects are successful. I don’t blame them for the ClipX Bounty project; But I think the reputation of Bounty Detective has been ruined just as much as we have been damaged.

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September 18, 2020, 07:17:24 AM
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That is one of the reasons I would never sacrifice my personal info for a meager reward. Everyone are worried that your personal information would be hacked from a centralized database and then you get projects like this that will legally collect the data and then just use it for the wrong reasons.

People do not understand the risk when they willingly give their KYC information to these projects.  Angry  <<TIP>> What I usually do to protect myself, is to make a copy of my original documents and then write the website details of the service that required it onto those documents, before I submit it.  (That way I can trace it back to it's source, if it was used illegally)  Wink

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September 18, 2020, 07:21:10 AM
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I already thought this would be a bad thing, they asked the bounty hunters to do KYC when the bounty was done. I protested and asked their group why they did that, but no one responded and I was immediately blocked
Funny because this kind of excuse is already used by so many people making bounty. asking KYC after the bounty was done I mean why don't ask it from the beginning of the campaign.

I am very surprised that bounty scams still exist today and what's worse, they had time to take data from the bounty hunter what a cruel ClipX project
they don't realize what the fate of bounty hunters will be if the data is misused of course it will harm them
Scam will always exist but to steal personal information that's crucial is simply criminal. Imagine having our passport floating around in dark web this kind of scam, should be hunted down by cyber police tbh.

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September 18, 2020, 08:45:35 AM
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I will never believe in such things that they did "delete the KYC data" permanently. For me, I think they can just assume it to the community, but they have actually collected all personal data (including passport details) separately and may compile them to the dark web market.

It's a lesson learn to all bounty hunters. It's really ugly that after bounty campaign is over, they suddenly require them to submit KYC. Identity theft is really hard for us to manage, especially that you are wrongfully accused in doing fraudulent stuff.

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September 18, 2020, 08:46:35 AM
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What is most often done is when the beginning of the project was carried out in the rules it was stated the absence of KYC but again this mischievous behavior has often been done. after it is almost finished or finished, just provide information that KYC is needed, which is of course very dilemma as a bounty hunter because finally the deception occurs. I regret that there is no BM to provide assistance so that this is not done.
It is very regrettable that BM, which has quite a number of projects, can not think of things that can help bounty hunters by selecting accepted projects, not only because quantity takes precedence but quality is ignored and many are disadvantaged.

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September 18, 2020, 09:00:58 AM
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It's a shame that there is another scam against bounty hunters and investors. whereas, bounty detectives are quite selective in choosing bounties. however, I totally agree with the creator of this thread, that the safest way to avoid being scammed from something like this is to find a bounty that uses escrow for it. it's just that, at first glance, I see Clipx as a promising project. however, once again a project like this is quite difficult to identify.

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September 18, 2020, 10:18:59 AM
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It's a shame that there is another scam against bounty hunters and investors. whereas, bounty detectives are quite selective in choosing bounties. however, I totally agree with the creator of this thread, that the safest way to avoid being scammed from something like this is to find a bounty that uses escrow for it. it's just that, at first glance, I see Clipx as a promising project. however, once again a project like this is quite difficult to identify.

I obviously agree with what you said that it is not easy to identify a project that can be successful or even become a scam. For the Clipx project, it seems a lot disappointed because many have given KYC but what was given did not reach the target because of the scam project, of course it will create confusion and separate questions with the KYC.

I actually disagree, BD seems to want to catch up on quality, many of the resulting projects are not satisfactory because the rewards given are not in accordance with what we have contributed.

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September 18, 2020, 10:44:19 AM
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 It's really sad that scam project are still operating in crypto space. Hope those who are behind those scam project will be punished. ClipX are based on Germany and I think Germany is strict in such activities. Hope ClipX team will be punished so that they can't use the data of the hunters and investors on their evil plan. I think it can be reported to the cyber crime department before they can proceed to their plan ,whatever is it. Even though they emailed that they already deleted all the documents but for me it was not 100% guaranty that they don't have copy of those documents before they send email. They are really smart!!!

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September 18, 2020, 11:15:38 AM
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It's a shame that there is another scam against bounty hunters and investors. whereas, bounty detectives are quite selective in choosing bounties. however, I totally agree with the creator of this thread, that the safest way to avoid being scammed from something like this is to find a bounty that uses escrow for it. it's just that, at first glance, I see Clipx as a promising project. however, once again a project like this is quite difficult to identify.

I obviously agree with what you said that it is not easy to identify a project that can be successful or even become a scam. For the Clipx project, it seems a lot disappointed because many have given KYC but what was given did not reach the target because of the scam project, of course it will create confusion and separate questions with the KYC.

I actually disagree, BD seems to want to catch up on quality, many of the resulting projects are not satisfactory because the rewards given are not in accordance with what we have contributed.
to analyze the project it is difficult to distinguish a scam or not. the simplest is choosing the ones already on the market. it also doesn't necessarily get paid. it could be that the team breaks the promise or agreement that has been made.
In the case of Clipx, the bounty hunter should have realized because the KYC request was not done from the start. they announced after the campaign was over and told everyone to move to a new group and then disappeared. Moreover, the requested document is only a passport, of course, it makes a suspicion from the start.
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~snip
^ we can't stop a scam project in the crypto space, we can just avoid it. even though the bounty detective is at the top but still can't escape the scam.

If it is true that this project is a scam, I am sorry about the participants. hopefully, they can patiently accept reality.

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September 18, 2020, 11:27:59 AM
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I have previously participated in a bounty program that he managed and managed to pay, although not much, but I was concerned after hearing that Kingcasino Scam and now ClipX. hmm, and what I don't like the Clipx team is really sneaky about getting KYC documents from bounty hunters without paying for their efforts that long. This case can be an important lesson for bounty hunters to always research again before joining the bounty program.


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September 18, 2020, 11:32:19 AM
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I wish me has encountered his bounty topic a month earlier. To left in the lurch the bunch of bitcointalk users ... hm, it  does no credit to  the manager somehow related to the project. I have tagged him today.

you do something good. it can be used as a warning to everyone or bounty hunters who want to join all existing campaigns. not all projects held by the manager can be successful. however, how to handle and manage regulations must be well enforced and can be followed by all campaign participants.

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September 18, 2020, 11:39:49 AM
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That escrowed bounty rewards should be mandatory if we really want to have a fair campaign where everyone will benefit. When the rewards are escrowed, the only thing you need to hope for is the price of the token when it listed in the crypto market. Because even though we secured the rewards we won't really know if the project will reach the market after the sales. Because there are some scenarios where those tokens won't even have a price after so many years have been passed after it sent to our wallet.

After this bounty manager had successfully managed some good project, it is normal to promote such fake project because at the beginning of the negotiations, you can't really tell if they telling the truth or not because they when they talked, you really think that they are serious with their projects until something like this will happen. Good luck for the participants and tell the manager to consider escrowing the rewards next time to avoid loss such as this one.

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September 18, 2020, 12:25:09 PM
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I wish me has encountered his bounty topic a month earlier. To left in the lurch the bunch of bitcointalk users ... hm, it  does no credit to  the manager somehow related to the project. I have tagged him today.
Well, honestly I don't think the BM deserved to be tagged for that (at least not now, except we can prove a case that BD is a part of the ClipX team). Otherwise, tagging BD is for me too harsh a decision. From BD's claim, said to have argued it out with the ClipX team to drop the idea of a KYC. It's also a loss for them. I think BD also innocently fell prey to ClipX too. However, I believe it should've stood its ground and warned hunters not to go ahead with the KYC

Nevertheless, I opened that thread so that innocent participants can be brought to the knowledge of what dangers lie in exposing their private data to bounty projects and also of what a scam the ClipX team turned into. Nobody should expose their passports, no matter how enticing the bounty seems. As hunters, we should avoid any bounty that demands a KYC that is more that a validation of email addresses.

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September 18, 2020, 01:16:33 PM
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The ClipX project, another bounty, managed by the Bounty Detectives' team early today let down bounty hunters gently in what seems a soft exit by announcing that it would no longer continue with the project. The announcement was made here: https://t.me/clipXchannel/13

That was after it had cunningly collected KYC documents from hunters (even though that wasn't explicitly on the bounty thread). ClipX insisted it was going to be a passport document for KYC or nothing. It was really a suspicious move but anxious hunters neglected it. Why ask for only a passport for KYC and not any other document.

My advise to bounty hunters:
1. Don't participate in any bounty without escrowed rewards.
2. Don't be in a rush to participate in every bounty that comes up.
3. Follow only trusted Bounty Managers.
4. DYOR on any project and don't rely on BMs. Most of them don't even research a project before going into contract with project team.

Anyone else got any advice for bounty hunters, especially the noobs among them?

Bounty detective remain respectful to me, even though CLIPX deceived many community in crypto space. Even Bounty Detective has nothing to do with it. And We cannot blame most bounty hunters if they submit their KYC due to they gave trust on it. Only the problem is that the CLIPX theft the identity of most of the bounty hunters. This was a learned a lesson to me.
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September 18, 2020, 01:36:33 PM
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The ClipX project, another bounty, managed by the Bounty Detectives' team early today let down bounty hunters gently in what seems a soft exit by announcing that it would no longer continue with the project. The announcement was made here: https://t.me/clipXchannel/13

That was after it had cunningly collected KYC documents from hunters (even though that wasn't explicitly on the bounty thread). ClipX insisted it was going to be a passport document for KYC or nothing. It was really a suspicious move but anxious hunters neglected it. Why ask for only a passport for KYC and not any other document.

My advise to bounty hunters:
1. Don't participate in any bounty without escrowed rewards.
2. Don't be in a rush to participate in every bounty that comes up.
3. Follow only trusted Bounty Managers.
4. DYOR on any project and don't rely on BMs. Most of them don't even research a project before going into contract with project team.

Anyone else got any advice for bounty hunters, especially the noobs among them?
I'm still waiting to get concrete information on them, I don't think that project has an iota of truth. I was participating on there Bounty campaign, I noticed some things on their social channels.
  • The Admin don't respond on the Telegram group.
  • Refused to update their Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn for months and wanted Bounty/marketing to be effective
  • ICO without update
  • They decided to launch KYC at the end of Bounty
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September 18, 2020, 01:47:22 PM
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Another one story of exit scam in bounty. Looks like it's much safer to not participate in them at all

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September 18, 2020, 01:54:47 PM
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Another one story of exit scam in bounty. Looks like it's much safer to not participate in them at all

promise upon promises yet no payment, that is how he has been guaranteeing us about his bounties.
he has managed so many project but refuses to pay the hunters.
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September 18, 2020, 02:08:15 PM
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The ClipX project, another bounty, managed by the Bounty Detectives' team early today let down bounty hunters gently in what seems a soft exit by announcing that it would no longer continue with the project. The announcement was made here: https://t.me/clipXchannel/13

That was after it had cunningly collected KYC documents from hunters (even though that wasn't explicitly on the bounty thread). ClipX insisted it was going to be a passport document for KYC or nothing. It was really a suspicious move but anxious hunters neglected it. Why ask for only a passport for KYC and not any other document.

My advise to bounty hunters:
1. Don't participate in any bounty without escrowed rewards.
2. Don't be in a rush to participate in every bounty that comes up.
3. Follow only trusted Bounty Managers.
4. DYOR on any project and don't rely on BMs. Most of them don't even research a project before going into contract with project team.

Anyone else got any advice for bounty hunters, especially the noobs among them?

I was always surprised when, at the slightest problem, they start writing as if the end of the world had come. And I also don't like it when they start blaming the bounty participants. You write that there is no need to rush, but how do you know that the project is a scam? correctly, only when you yourself take part in it or read the news. I think I need to say thank you to the bounty participants who took part in the ClipX bounty and were able to bring this project to clean water. It seems to me that this situation has once again shown that the work of the bounty participants is not appreciated and every time they try to blame. Why isn't anyone looking for ClipX organizers? Why are there not enough accusatory words against them? It seems to me that in such a situation you need to be more objective.
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September 18, 2020, 02:26:39 PM
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I received a message from ClipX to my email address, stating that my documents that I provided to KYC were removed and, in addition, they accordingly wrote thanks for participating in their company. I understand that this message is not trusted, as there is no guarantee that they deleted my personal information.
Don't take their word for it. I guess the scumbag ClipX guys sent that out because someone from the Bounty Detective team wrote them with a threat of a lawsuit for their misdemeanor. A lot of people got that same message as reported on the telegram group but I am cocksure the submitted KYC documents are still in the scammer's database. It's a common practice with fraudulent projects. They steal KYC documents and then sell them to the darknet for money. If until September 15th the ClipX gang still asked hunters for KYC, knowing well that they weren't going on with the project, what then makes you still think they've wiped off your data from their database?
It would be nice to actually sue ClipX. Perhaps this would be a precedent for similar situations. Perhaps due to this, we have become less likely to meet scammers and theft of personal information. But it is very difficult to predict how much this idea has come true.

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