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September 22, 2020, 08:29:59 PM
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I just wanted to provide a thread for people to be able to semi freely discuss the quote below without having their stuff deleted by the OP.

Since there are so many people accusing me of so many crazy things with no evidence at all, I  decided to make this thread to condense it all in one place.

Self-moderated to avoid the enormous troll problem on the forum right now.   If you have a complaint about me, post it here with evidence and I'll rebute it.    If you just want to post your feelings, or anger over being held accountable - those are not things I have done wrong and will be deleted.

Positive comments are also welcomed, with the same rules to be fair.  Smiley

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My first complaint is that vod's thread is self modded... that's a really poor/nonserious way of taking complaints.  I would think that someone on a "default trust" in a blockchain/cryptocurrency based community forum would be a bit more tasteful, but who knows who cares! Tongue

I also don't care for his blind hatred towards OGNasty... most of which seems uncalled for from my point of view.  I'd love to understand why or how someone could dislike OGNasty... Nasty has been a standup person for years.

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I just wanted to provide a thread for people to be able to semi freely discuss the quote below without having their stuff deleted by the OP.
Probably a good idea, since I just had a post deleted very quickly from that thread which I reposted in the active thread about Vod being on DT.  He said he would counter any criticism in his thread, so I'm curious as to why the tiny bit that I gave him was nuked instead of replied to--not that I heavily criticized him or expected a refutation.  In fact, the second feud I made reference to I couldn't even recall the full details of--but I'm pretty sure Vod knows what I'm referring to.

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September 22, 2020, 08:38:04 PM
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Vod deleted all posts, but Vod dont deleted a suchmoon's post here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277553.msg55245914#msg55245914

What does it mean? Maybe they are friends? What is this circus for?

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September 22, 2020, 08:45:37 PM
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He said he would counter any criticism in his thread, so I'm curious as to why the tiny bit that I gave him was nuked instead of replied to--not that I heavily criticized him or expected a refutation.

I didn't say that - I said I would refute/answer any accusations presented with evidence.

I don' think you or Bay criticized me at all... I just want to keep the thread free of comments/opinions and just focus on things I have done wrong.  Smiley

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Vod has told countless lies about me, left me dozens of false feedback ratings, left false feedback ratings for others who associate with me, abused his merit source position, attempted to extort me, and has been an all around jackass.  There are 40+ pages in the below thread already displaying his childish actions, and that is just towards me, who is a respected member of this community.  He has bullied many others who haven't had a strong foundation on which to defend themselves and decided to instead find new places to participate with Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.0

He's also an attention whore who is making new threads about himself all over the forum.  An example would be the self-moderated thread that this thread had to be made to counter, as well as this ridiculous thread where Vod pretends he's contributed here instead of being a nuisance.

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September 22, 2020, 09:24:25 PM
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First I will say he is not the worst on DT1

However vod

1. Admitted being afraid to tag lauda or exclude them because he was scared they would ruin his account.
Therefore didn't create a warning for others due to putting his own self interest first.

2. Vod is a trust abuser
a/ I notice he gave a user a red tag for deleting his 3rd accusation of OG being a liar when the thread starter stipulated to keep repeating this claim on his thread Vod must provide evidence. Vod claimed the user was preventing or perverting his message when the same accusation still remained there 2x. So nothing would have been any different.
b/ vod also gave a user a red tag for simply telling the truth about Vods self confessed brain death. He then said he never even said he had experienced serious brain death.

3. Most seriously of All. The thing that convinced me Vod has gone rogue was that he deliberately assisted in resisting a flag for his proven scammer pal lauda. The independently verifiable evidence of the scamming was on the flag linking page. He has refused to even present his reasoning for opposing the flag. Nobody was able to refute the evidence because it is one of the most conclusive examples of lying and deceiving for financial gain I have seen.

4. He is constantly praising and protecting 2 proven scammers lauda and tman and misleading people as to their true characters. He also seems to collude or be close with other scammy individuals that share this scammer protecting and facilitating behavior.

He is not a scammer himself but is a pathetic old fool that will protect and enable scammers if they will be his friends. This is still dangerous behavior and he should be kept away from DT.


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bump!  Smiley

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One thing that Vod is doing wrong is an escrow-partnership with suchmoon
https://youtu.be/ZIfcUjDEzZg?t=25



They think they're attacking my escrow business and hurting me with this action.  In reality, an automated escrow will only help the scammers here sell illegal products and fraudulent accounts that escrow agents like myself won't assist with.  Vod has a history of his sites being hacked and losing data.  This is a perfect example of users doing something stupid that will assist scammers here to try and hurt someone else and making the community a worse place while opening themselves up to liability they won't be able to cover when things go wrong.  This little attempt to hurt me is going to end in tears for them, and will be a hilarious lesson in shooting yourself in the foot.  For those who will lose money as a result, I'm sorry that you thought Vod was someone you could trust with your funds.  He's not.

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Bumping to encourage discussion!   Have I done anything wrong, or am I just accused of it for deflection?

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Hilariously vod deleted this post and changed his demand from things he has done wrong must no longer just be accompanied by evidence they must be accompanied by " concise " evidence.

I guess he doesn't want the truth posted on his own self moderated thread.




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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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Well you doxed the forum treasurer placing in danger 500 btc of funds.
You don't need me to post the link because you know you did if.

You also admitted that you were afraid to red tag or exclude the scammer lauda because you feared they would ruin your account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510

That is clearly not the action of a DT1 member.

If you deny you did this then I can post the link.

You also deliberately protected the same scammer lauda mentioned above by opposing a legitmate flag where undeniable evidence of his scamming was detailed. You run away from explaining why you did this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249969.0

If you want to detail that here then I will analyse the excuse in detail.
Dont just say because all the other scammer facilitators on DT1 opposed it.

You trust abused someone for deleting your repetition that og was a liar after you already said it on their thread 2x before. They said you needed to present evidence or not repeat it again. You gave them a red tag. Trust abuse.

If you deny it the I will post the link. Actually it's on the thread above I just linked.

I mean if you think you have not done anything wrong that would not surprise me.
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without having their stuff deleted
Here's an overview of all (un)edited/deleted posts in that topic: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553.html
Any time you post (or quote) this link, it gets updated.

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without having their stuff deleted
Here's an overview of all (un)edited/deleted posts in that topic: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553.html
Any time you post (or quote) this link, it gets updated.

Excellent.  As long as the data is there (and here) there is nothing wrong with my keeping that topic clean for things I have done wrong.

Hilariously vod deleted this post and changed his demand from things he has done wrong must no longer just be accompanied by evidence they must be accompanied by " concise " evidence.

I don't expect intelligent people to have to wade through pages of garbage, like the post I deleted of yours. 

"You also admitted", "You also deliberately protected" -- your opinions are not things I have done wrong.   If you want to complain how I posted information I gathered from the internet, do it with a link showing the evidence - even if you need to create a thread yourself to show it concisely.  I have no problem admitting exactly what I did, but don't muddy it with unfounded claims and your biased opinions.  Just the facts ma'am.

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without having their stuff deleted
Here's an overview of all (un)edited/deleted posts in that topic: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553.html
Any time you post (or quote) this link, it gets updated.

Excellent.  As long as the data is there (and here) there is nothing wrong with my keeping that topic clean for things I have done wrong.

Hilariously vod deleted this post and changed his demand from things he has done wrong must no longer just be accompanied by evidence they must be accompanied by " concise " evidence.

I don't expect intelligent people to have to wade through pages of garbage, like the post I deleted of yours.  

"You also admitted", "You also deliberately protected" -- your opinions are not things I have done wrong.   If you want to complain how I posted information I gathered from the internet, do it with a link showing the evidence - even if you need to create a thread yourself to show it concisely.  I have no problem admitting exactly what I did, but don't muddy it with unfounded claims and your biased opinions.  Just the facts ma'am.

The pages of garbage with your own posts quoted as proof that fully corroborate the things you have undeniable done wrong ?


Which statements that I made about you do you wish to attempt to refute?
The links I provided detail specifically the points I made.

Pick one.

Are you claiming you didn't do these things ?
Bring me the specifics here. Which of the things I mentioned do you claim did not take place?

I will work through any of the these events with you step by step.

You are claiming they didnt happen? or just the evidence is not presented as you say it should be ?
You claim you deleted the post because people should not have to click a link?

I mean anyone can claim their actions are not deliberate but if at anytime you can remove or reverse those actions and you do not and you are unwilling to debate those actions then it seems very unlikely they are not deliberate. What excuse will you come up with next. I can't wait.

I would love to get into specifics with you but I know you will run away.

Prove me wrong. Don't run. Debate publically you actions.
Lets see.

Okay number 1

Did you dox the forum treasurer? Yes or no?
Was it wrong?

Just be honest.



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without having their stuff deleted
Here's an overview of all (un)edited/deleted posts in that topic: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553.html
Any time you post (or quote) this link, it gets updated.

That is SUPER cool.  Great build dude.

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September 25, 2020, 08:10:22 PM
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Be careful with this.  I see a lot of newbies posting support and a lot of low value transactions.   Could be a small group working together to scam.  Haven't taken time to investigate but I bet most transactions end with a visit to Mr. Mixer.  :/
newbie accounts btw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=265048 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=66060

take your comment farming elsewhere please, thanks.

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Haven't taken time to investigate but

So instead of doing any further due diligence besides scrolling through some posts, you change your feedback from neutral to negative?

Can't even join a simple discord server to see how many real users, use the service. Just look at the two profiles I linked above, why would they vouch for my service if they didn't think it was trustworthy?
Why would a YouTuber link my discord in his server to prevent his own users getting scammed?
https://imgur.com/1PIfPzZ

Don't believe the screenshot? google his discord server and join yourself.

Are you just trying to extort another user?
Anyone willing to join the discord server https://discord.gg/MynAgXK, look for themselves to see that I'm not running a "small group working together to scam"?

since vod is too lazy to do his own research I'll post more screenshots here. https://imgur.com/a/EDLvuFK

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September 25, 2020, 08:17:38 PM
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Vod, I think you shouldn't worry too much about people posting right/wrong criticism about you. Let people come at you with what they got, its not gonna hurt you or your actual reputation. So long as you be truthful to yourself, and stay on the right side, there is nothing to fear, right?

I also think, you and Og should talk it out like normal adult people, instead of calling each other liars or any other nicknames yall have given each other. If QS and lauda can solve matters between one another, I am sure you two can do the same as well. Its 2020 afterall.

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September 26, 2020, 08:44:36 AM
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Vod, I think you shouldn't worry too much about people posting right/wrong criticism about you. Let people come at you with what they got, its not gonna hurt you or your actual reputation. So long as you be truthful to yourself, and stay on the right side, there is nothing to fear, right?

I also think, you and Og should talk it out like normal adult people, instead of calling each other liars or any other nicknames yall have given each other. If QS and lauda can solve matters between one another, I am sure you two can do the same as well. Its 2020 afterall.

Of course the things he's done wrong won't hurt his reputation here.
His reputation is already that of a doxer of the forum treasurer, trust abuser and scammer facilitator.
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September 26, 2020, 08:52:45 AM
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Another Vod Vs. OG thread just what the forum needs, more drama... Not self modded too!

Let's fuel it then.

 I'd love to understand why or how someone could dislike OGNasty... Nasty has been a standup person for years.

Do you consider OGNasty's "business" a ponzi, or not?

Because ponzi promoters ans ponzi sellers are always hated here. (maybe there are some exceptions, is there?)



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September 26, 2020, 09:25:45 AM
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Another Vod Vs. OG thread just what the forum needs, more drama... Not self modded too!

Let's fuel it then.

 I'd love to understand why or how someone could dislike OGNasty... Nasty has been a standup person for years.

Do you consider OGNasty's "business" a ponzi, or not?

Because ponzi promoters ans ponzi sellers are always hated here. (maybe there are some exceptions, is there?)




This thread is to list the things vod has done wrong. Not an OG vs vod thread.

Besides many would consider bitcoin a ponzi.

Vod has done things wrong. The most serious of which is facilitating and protecting scammers. When you oppose a flag based upon indisputable evidence of scamming you are the lowest of the low.

Especially when he has previously admitted he was too scared to tag the same scammer before because he thought they would tag his account as retaliation.

This is exactly why the trust system is dangerous

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